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* In Matthew 24:36, Jesus says that only God the Father knows when Jesus will return to Earth. But given how God is simultanelously the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit at once, how can Jesus not know? Especially given that God is supposed to be omniscient.

*** And.. just because we see it differently doesn't mean it's not there. I saw it as the force of Morality and Good itself, what Zoraster worshiped as Ahura Mazda

** It really is not a case of a sin being unforgivable as it is mortal/venial. In the whole passage, Jesus also refers to those who blaspheme Him (the ancient Jews) and those who blashphemed His father (the ancient pagans), saying they would be saved. He did not mean that they simply CAN be saved, He meant they WOULD be, because they only blashphemed out of ignorance. Those who blashphemed the Spirit (or those who knew better but still refused Jesus as Messiah; it is implied the Pharaisees were this) would be damned because they rejected Christ out of malice. However, he means that they are in a state they would be damned for, not that they were unforgivable; if they repented, they would be forgiven.

So, a true prophet of the Lord is decieved by another true prophet and dies for his trust of a man he thought spoke for his Lord; meanwhile, the prophet who decieved him to his death gets off scott free. What moral lesson is this supposed to teach, other than possibly "you're screwed no matter what"? (Creator/NeilGaiman theorised that the message was "don't do what anyone else tells you to do, even if they say that God said for you to do it, or you'll be eaten by a lion on the way home.")

** Considering the second coming is suppose to bring forth the end of the world. It does seem kind of silly to be upset over the fact that God didn't decide end the world 2000 years ago.

*** That's exactly my point! He's facing an angry mob and is basically telling them, that they are no better than the harlot they are about to execute. And everybody is fine with that, everybody is SUDDENLY compalcent and aware and ashamed of their own sins so much as to abandon the voice of reason (whether they're sinners or not, she was still a criminal deserving a punishment by their laws, '''which, by the way, Jesus recognised'''). But most important, it was not even really about justice, was it - it was a set up for Jesus, right? And he gave them a perfect opportunity to exploit - instead of "defy the laws/support the execution" dilemma they could've forced a "defy the laws/admit that he's a sinner/''partake'' in the execution" one upon him. They didn't. Why?

*** That actually depends on who you ask many people feel that fighting for your country isn't murder.

*** Because the wait makes it better. Because waiting can help provide you the ability to watch your children and make sure they learn properly. Because God told us to "go forth and multiply". Becuase it lets one attempt to discover the Truth for themself. Because it allows one to work in the name of God. And that's just to begin.
*** And we cannot do all those things ''in'' haven because...?

*** dude really? it's a metaphor... the eye represents anyone or anything that causes one to sin (even if it as close to you as an organ) get rid off it,your better off without. jesus commonly spoked in metaphor. which even confused he followers at times.

** His hair was not the source of his power, but it was the condition God set for him to ''keep'' his power. Samson only (stupidly) told Delilah the source of his strength, he (stupidly...''very'' stupidly) did not expect her to cut it. And it wasn't simply God being nice to give him back his powers; if you notice in the text, it says that ''his hair had grown back'' by the time he asked for his powers back.

* The story of Adam and Eve. If you take it completely seriously, then we're all descended from...two people? Hasn't royalty taught us that incest causes problems when you continue to do it over and over and over and over and over and over and ''over'' again?

*** dude really? it's a metaphor...the eye represents anyone or anything that causes one to sin(even if it as close to you as an organ) get rid off it,your better off without. jesus commonly spoked in metaphor. which even confused he followers at times.

* What bugs me a bit is that for all the claims about God's omnipotence and omniscience floating about (including on this page)...the Bible itself seems to do a poor job to back them up. Sure, He's ''immensely'' powerful and, presumably, knowledgeable -- creating Heaven and Earth is no small feat just for starters. But ''infinitely'' so? Setting aside the fact that that would be hard to actually demonstrate, He sure doesn't seem to ''act'' the part very convincingly...

* While there is a lot of the Bible that bugs me, I can chalk it up to ValuesDissonance. Yet there's something that bothers me when the Devil meets Jesus. Okay,the Devil said that, basically, if Jesus served him he would be in charge of all the kingdoms of the land. Um,Satan? HE'S GOD IN A MORTAL FORM! He already is destined to be ruler of the planet! Even if EvilCannotComprehendGood was in effect and Jesus wasn't IncorruptiblePurePureness, you of all of beings ''should know'' he's going to be in charge eventually. Sheesh, I can see why [[spoiler:you're going to lose in Revelation]].

* I honestly don't get how [[GodIsGood God is]] IncorruptiblePurePureness. From what I've seen, God can be petty, jealous, vengeful...oh, and one of the biggest [[KnightTemplar knight templars]] I've ever seen. Sure, he may be good, [[WellIntentionedExtremist or at least have good intentions,]] but he's not ''pure'' good. That seems more like [[JesusWasWayCool Jesus Christ's MO.]]

*** Well, if God really did have a hand in writing Literature/TheBible, I doubt he would let the writers write something erroneous. If you don't belive that God did, then Literature/TheBible wouldn't be inspired in the first place, so it wouldn't matter. On the other hand, man can and has at times changed scripture either due to mistranslation or to fit their own bias.

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* In Matthew 24:36, Jesus says that only God the Father knows when Jesus will return to Earth. But given how God is simultanelously the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit at once, how can Jesus not know? Especially given that God is supposed to be omniscient.
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