History Headscratchers / Spinnerette

[[folder: Mechanical Maiden's Lifespan]]
* While visiting the Golden Age version of her story, Spinnerette meets a 90-years old equivalent of herself who seems to be happily married to a still-very-much-alive Mecha Maid ("Mechanical Maiden") in her late 80's. How does that work with the knowledge that Mecha Maid is supposed to die in a couple of years (so, probably early 30's at most) of ALS complications? We do know for a fact that not every version of the character has ALS specifically, since the Silver Age one is in a wheelchair for a different reason, but nothing is specified around Golden Age "Mechanical Maiden". Should we take that as meaning that she indeed never had ALS, or that in the Golden Age they somehow managed to prevent her from dying from it, or that it has any bearing whatsoever on the "prime" version...?

* I'm confused - how in the world did Heather [[http://krakowstudios.com/spinnerette/2010/11/05/11052010/ figure out]] what Mecha Maid's civilian identity was with [[http://krakowstudios.com/spinnerette/2010/10/15/10152010/ just one run in]]?

** Discussed from [[http://www.spinnyverse.com/2012/03/26/03262012/ here on.]]

* Super [=MILFs=] OriginStory: an alien [[http://www.spinnyverse.com/2012/09/26/09262012/ nanoscale tokamak]], [[SuspensionOfDisbelief OK]]. But brought back from [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus Venus]]? The planet with 90 times Earth’s atmospheric pressure, over 400 °C surface temperature, the sulfuric acid rain in the upper atmosphere? Really?

[[folder:ALS]]
* Given the recent hype for the raising of funds and awareness for ALS research, one can't help but wonder how the authors plans for the comic would be affected if a cure actually was found before Mecha Maid succumbs her condition. It's a rather pleasant thought that we might get such a benevolent example of SerendipityWritesThePlot.

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** Hell, just ask UltimateMarvel for the answers. Giant Man couldn't use his powers while he was with the Defenders because it would be considered as giving away a trade secret (the Giant Man serum).

*** I's have to agree with this one; it's much the same way how a company can be sued, rather than its majority shareholder(s), in real life; a company, in the eyes of the law, is seen as separate to the people who own it.

*** Same way as mentioned above how one can sue a company separately from the actual people involved. In the eyes of the law, a company is a legal entity. Same for super heroes; the superheroic identity is treated differently and distinctly from the civil identity. As for how things can get paid, it may very well be paid through some sort of private escrow service or through other indirect means. Heck, one could have another superhero act as a sort of custodian - handling and being responsible for such dues. More than likely, it's part of the system that allows for such vigilante's to have civil rights and duties (such as testifying in court). And yes, a superhero could probably 'skip bail' effectively and not pay any fines (and it probably does happen), and as in real life, companies probably have budgeted money for non-paying suits (ie company knows that they will get sued, rightly or not, during the year and so put aside money specifically to handle or cover these costs).
*** And given that the heroes, in-universe, generate funds off of stuff like merchandising sales, blowing off an official court ruling could be a big hit to their public persona. Same with not appearing for a summons. Not to mention, some of these heroes might have bank accounts under their heroic names, depending on circumstance (think of science-heroes having to order stuff for their lab. Betting Mechamaid doesn't order all her stuff under her real name), which could then be frozen or garnished by failure to pay fines.

*** Let's go with the mentality solution, which leave behind the fact that she had in the moment the mentality of a Superhero, in other words the confidence to win and to "fight the bad guys" and with her super reflexes and agility would make a huge difference (also if you give a baby the strength of a planet it would be ''easier'' for him/her to kill people/things for lack of control and collateral damage) but the toughen part is just plain wrong. Yes, if you put a professional fighting ''another'' professional of course its gonna get hurt, in example like mecha maid against spinnerette, but in this case was a Mugger. A normal Mugger. Going with your analogy it would be like a baby (or a five year old) hitting a person with the constitution of Bruce Lee or more likely, a statue. If you are strong enough to break concrete, bend reinforced metal or use your body to pulverize walls a kinfe or a bullet would not hurt you a lot or even considerable. Probably barely scratching you. This is a form of RealityIsUnrealistic in tends of resistance to damage and pounds/inch in effect. Hell, she could have just '''slapped''' the idiot and would have been strong and fast enough to take him down (and probably destroy his jaw or more likely break his neck).
*** She'd been a "superhero" for all of about 20 minutes. That's not really enough time to gain confidence in your abilities. You're being ''way'' to presumptive about what someone is capable of the first time they're in a fight. The vast, ''vast'' majority of people will just freeze up when they first get into a fight, even if they're huge and can bench press a truck.\\\

*** She totally has super-strength, she stated recently she had ten times the strength of a normal human.

*** I think the nalgene bottle thing has something to do with it's chemical composition and the effects it could have on hormones. That's what I remember hearing anyway.
*** Actually, nalgene was discovered by accident while trying to create synthetical hormones.

*** Well, that is pretty much the point of the question.

*** Technically, two very strong gravity fields pulling in opposite directions would just nullify each other.
*** I'm not suggesting she rip somebody in two; my assumption was that she didn't want to callously murder everybody (she could just pinch brains if she wanted to do that). But if she's going to spend the energy to throw multiple cinderblocks or cars at high speeds, it's definitely within her reach just to snap bones by by shoving somebody around.

*** Well, Gravity sorta ''is'' just pulling. Making something weigh twice as much isn't going to instantly make it plummet to the ground--it's going to need time to accelerate just like anything else. Someone whose brain suddenly weighed twice as much would certainly be uncomfortable, and probably have a lot of trouble holding their head up straight, but it's not like the brain would go shooting out of their head. As for doubling everything else? Well, depending on the person, they could handle more than twice their own weight on their legs.
*** People are regularly under the effect of multiple Gravities (Gs). Many roller coasters will subject you to 3-4 Gs, and a car crash can easily get up even higher. While they have the advantage of pressurized chambers and flight suits, fighter pilots can get upwards of 8-9 Gs before blacking out from blood draining out of their brains (hypoxia).

*** Confirmed by WordOfGod.

*** That's just as much a paradox as why Hitler (amongst others) can't die before their intended time because then the assassin wouldn't go back in time to kill him which would result in him still being alive, sending it into a paradox loop.
*** I know that, and you know that, but Time Travel Man seems to think that it's Franklin's involvement with time travel ''specifically'' that protects him, and other people are vulnerable.
*** It also might have something to do with the fact that Franklin is traveling forward in time, and everyone knows who he already is, hence they have a perceived image of Benjamin Franklin that means any action taken against him is influenced by the time traveler's future, if they prevent him from having that future, they'll cause a paradox that loops back and prevents their action from happening. Whereas someone traveling back in time would most likely just cease to exist. At least that's the only way it makes sense. Might also be that all time travelers are protected this way.
*** Or the Time Travel Man may not have known before he tried killing Hitler, not like he had actually done it before.

*** Thinking further, this does NOT in and of itself stop him from stopping the subprime mortgage crisis--if he did so successfully it'd mean he was in timeline B right now instead of A, but would return to his spot in timeline A, while timeline A marches on as if he'd never arrived in the future until the point where the time traveler leaves from. Actually from that it's possible that he WAS in timeline B when he met Hitler, and so was the time traveler; however he was still Ben Franklin A. The fact that he failed to stop the crisis doesn't actually mean that he physically couldn't. If anything, that makes more sense since the other time traveler had to figure out how the rules worked with him, possibly implying he came from a timeline without Superhero-Ben.

*** She was heterosexual one minute and then magically gay the next. What would you call it?
*** Oh, it's magic now? Again: ''Show me where she "decides"''. Show me where this "magical" transformation occurs. What I see is someone deciding to give something a shot when she realizes she did indeed have feelings for someone.
**** Again, ''what else would you call it?'' She's never been shown to be attracted to girls before, and then Mecha Maid confesses her love and suddenly Spinny's attracted to girls. Sahira herself even says "You don't just suddenly wake up gay at 25." Well apparently in the Spinnyverse, you do.

*** First, thank you for actually answering my question instead of being a jerk. Second, when was this shown? I don't remember it ever being said.
**** Discussed from [[http://www.spinnyverse.com/2012/03/26/03262012/ here on.]]

*** WordOfGod is that that second jolt gave her ''Sahira's'' [[PowerCopying powers]], which then reacted with her own. Since Sahira has ShapeshifterBaggage and can copy CK supers like Greta, she's almost certainly CK-based.

* Is it just me or do the manga-style faces ''really'' not suit the bodies? Well, not just that they're "manga" but that they're done in a simplified way while the bodies are more detailed and realistic (eh, superhero comic-real, not real-real). Like, I see a simplified bishie face, I expect to see simplified bishie body. Somehow they just don't match up. :S

** Also, how her gravity work? Shouldn't just the increase of one time gravity being enough to pulverize... well anything? By increasing the weight of all the objects in a radius, its putting all its part far beyond their limit of resistance (imagine a person whose brain suddenly weights ''twice'', then you get each of their bones, muscles, nerves, eyes, blood and so on), but instead is like she is putting invisible training weights in the back of her enemies. Its seems more like pushing instead of gravity, that's all.

** Alternatively, Mecha Maid is easily identifiable by her lack of {{Most Common Superpower}}.

*** Well, Gravity sorta ''is'' just pulling. Making something weigh twice as much isn't going to instantly make it plummet to the ground--it's going to need time to accelerate just like anything else. Someone whose brain suddenly weighed twice as much would certainly be uncomfortable, and probably have a lot of trouble holding their head up straight, but it's not like the brain would go shooting out of their head. As for doubling everything else? Well, depending on the person, they could handle more than twice their own weight on their legs.\\\

For a personal example, back in high school, I weighed a little under 200 lbs, and was on the wrestling and football teams, which included weightlifting. As part of that, I did squats, and was able to do multiple sets of reps with as much as 400 or 500 lbs on my back--the most I ever did was 800 lbs, and I could've done more. For superheroes, who would have to work out and who also have super strength, double or triple gravity would make it harder to move, but not to the extent of instant incapacitation.