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** But the team is on a much longer hiatus in Persona 4, since none of them use their Personas at all after [[spoiler: taking down Adachi and Ameno-sagiri all the way to the end of March.]] That's twice as long as April to Golden Week. Hell, one of Yu's post-fight comments even confirms that he maxed his Yosuke link.

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** But the team is on a much longer hiatus in Persona 4, since none of them use their Personas at all after [[spoiler: taking [[spoiler:taking down Adachi and Ameno-sagiri all the way to the end of March.]] March]]. That's twice as long as April to Golden Week. Hell, one of Yu's post-fight comments even confirms that he maxed his Yosuke link.



** ''Persona 3'' in itself isn't consistent with dates. For example, Ms. Toriumi all but says the protagonist's parents died in 1999 at the very beginning of the game, yet the letter Yukari receives from her late father is timestamped on March 6, 2000, which is a contradiction because all three died on the same night. The way it makes sense to me is that Atlus fixed the chronology only when developing ''Arena'' and decided to establish that the Dark Hour started well into 2000 and ended in January 31, 2010, despite ''Persona 3'' taking place mostly in 2009 and always mentioning the incident "10 years ago". As for Mitsuru's story mode, it begins with a flashback to a year and a half prior to ''Arena'', a little after she decided to reveal some of the secrets of the Ergo Research lab to the authorities in order to create the Shadow Operatives.



* When [[spoiler:Detective Kurosawa]] speaks with Mitsuru and [[spoiler:Naoto]] about the "Inaba incident," he mentions that the report was a) filled with references to Shadows and Personas, from the statements of the suspect; and that b) it was submitted by Dojima's "young assistant." How would that work, since the "young assistant" ([[spoiler:Adachi]]) [[spoiler: IS the main suspect and he was apprehended? Does he get to report on his own deposition, and the Inaba PD just accepts it?]] Even if they scoffed at it as fantasy, [[spoiler:suspects don't get to draft their own case files.]]
** Who said the young assistant was [[spoiler: him]]? It could have been Naoto for all we know. Or someone unnamed.
*** Could that "suspect" be referring to [[spoiler: Yu/The MC]]? [[spoiler: You did have the option to spill everything when you were arrested. Then Adachi could have filed the report from there]].
*** It was referring to [[spoiler:Adachi]]. The game explicitly refers to the one who filed it as "the young partner of the detective in charge of the case", which would be Dojima. It's likely the suspect was [[spoiler:Namatame]], since it's stated that large parts of his testimony would be inadmissible in court due to the absurdity of it. [[spoiler:Adachi]] would make sure the report was filed, so if [[spoiler:Namatame mentioned the phonecall where he was told to do it a police officer, then it would be considered the ramblings of a nutjob]].
* So do we actually have a definite timeline as to who reached the Announcer's Room? Just curious is all. I mean, as much as this troper wanted it to be Yu, it couldn't be possible because [[spoiler: he's too exhausted and tired from fighting Elizabeth and he was about to use the full power of the Wild Card.]]

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* When [[spoiler:Detective Kurosawa]] speaks with Mitsuru and [[spoiler:Naoto]] about the "Inaba incident," he mentions that the report was a) filled with references to Shadows and Personas, from the statements of the suspect; and that b) it was submitted by Dojima's "young assistant." How would that work, since the "young assistant" ([[spoiler:Adachi]]) [[spoiler: IS [[spoiler:IS the main suspect and he was apprehended? Does he get to report on his own deposition, and the Inaba PD just accepts it?]] Even if they scoffed at it as fantasy, [[spoiler:suspects don't get to draft their own case files.]]
** Who said the young assistant was [[spoiler: him]]? [[spoiler:him]]? It could have been Naoto for all we know. Or someone unnamed.
*** Could that "suspect" be referring to [[spoiler: Yu/The [[spoiler:Yu/The MC]]? [[spoiler: You [[spoiler:You did have the option to spill everything when you were arrested. Then Adachi could have filed the report from there]].
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*** It was referring to [[spoiler:Adachi]]. The game explicitly refers to the one who filed it as "the young partner of the detective in charge of the case", which would be Dojima. It's likely the suspect was [[spoiler:Namatame]], since it's stated that large parts of his testimony would be inadmissible in court due to the absurdity of it. [[spoiler:Adachi]] would make sure the report was filed, so if [[spoiler:Namatame mentioned the phonecall where he was told to do it a police officer, then it would be considered the ramblings of a nutjob]].
nutjob.]]
* So do we actually have a definite timeline as to who reached the Announcer's Room? Just curious is all. I mean, as much as this troper wanted it to be Yu, it couldn't be possible because [[spoiler: he's [[spoiler:he's too exhausted and tired from fighting Elizabeth and he was about to use the full power of the Wild Card.]]



** Because P4A follows after the True Ending of P4, during which the fog was dispersed. a) The characters that go into the TV voluntarily don't think they need the glasses anymore, and b) the characters that ended up there accidentally or against their will simply didn't have them on their person when they fell in.

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** Because P4A [=P4A=] follows after the True Ending of P4, during which the fog was dispersed. a) The characters that go into the TV voluntarily don't think they need the glasses anymore, and b) the characters that ended up there accidentally or against their will simply didn't have them on their person when they fell in.



** Not only that, it's also been implied in P4 that the IT have tried (and failed) to summon their Personas in the real world. (It was from a comment on how Rise laments that she can't use her detection abilities outside of the TV to look for Teddie).It would seem summoning a Persona is harder in the real world without any special aid (like an Evoker), but it is definitely possible, especially if one considers the [[WordOfGod Word of God]] that all the Persona games stake place in the same universe, and the characters of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 1}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' could [[OlderThanYouThink summon theirs in the real world.]]

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** Not only that, it's also been implied in P4 that the IT have tried (and failed) to summon their Personas in the real world. (It was from a comment on how Rise laments that she can't use her detection abilities outside of the TV to look for Teddie).It would seem summoning a Persona is harder in the real world without any special aid (like an Evoker), but it is definitely possible, especially if one considers the [[WordOfGod Word of God]] that all the Persona games stake place in the same universe, and the characters of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 1}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' could [[OlderThanYouThink summon theirs in the real world.]]world]].



** No two stories match up, that is somewhat of a given in the Fighting Game Genre. The whole point of picking your character is so that they would be the main character, so conversations that happen to them are relevant to their character arc while the conversations for everyone else are irrelevant.

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** No two stories match up, that is somewhat of a given in the Fighting Game Genre. The whole point of picking your character is so that they would be the main character, so conversations that happen to them are relevant to their character arc while the conversations for everyone else are irrelevant.irrelevant.
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** Not only that, it's also been implied in P4 that the IT have tried (and failed) to summon their Personas in the real world. (It was from a comment on how Rise laments that she can't use her detection abilities outside of the TV to look for Teddie).It would seem summoning a Persona is harder in the real world without any special aid (like an Evoker), but it is definitely possible, especially if one considers the [[WordOfGod Word of God]] that all the Persona games stake place in the same universe, and the characters of ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' could [[OlderThanYouThink summon theirs in the real world.]]

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** Not only that, it's also been implied in P4 that the IT have tried (and failed) to summon their Personas in the real world. (It was from a comment on how Rise laments that she can't use her detection abilities outside of the TV to look for Teddie).It would seem summoning a Persona is harder in the real world without any special aid (like an Evoker), but it is definitely possible, especially if one considers the [[WordOfGod Word of God]] that all the Persona games stake place in the same universe, and the characters of ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Persona 1}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}'' could [[OlderThanYouThink summon theirs in the real world.]]
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*** Erebus needs to make contact with Nyx's consciousness, not her body. Nyx's consciousness is in the Sea of Souls, while her physical body is merged with the moon. But the Great Seal blocks Erebus in the Sea of Souls, so Erebus can never touch Nyx's consciousness.
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** It was confirmed that the P4 cast had to use their initial Personas because their Ultimate Personas were completely optional in regards to how they only evolve after reaching Rank 10 on the Social Link, though Teddie's is the plothole. P3's Personas evolved via plot, so they had their Personas be their Ultimate forms. It was said that there was talk about the P4 cast being able to switch from initial to Ultimate, but was scrapped in the end. Also, no. There is no greater threat than Nyx. Nyx is literally the end of humanity, meaning she can kill the human race and every being born from the collective unconsciousness of mankind, so Nyx would kill Izanami and even the other godly beings like Philemon and Nyarlathotep.
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*** What makes me worry is that it openly contradicts {{Persona 2}}, as it's hard to believe the Personas of the P4 gang would go from Ultimate Personas to initial Personas in the span of a month, especially with the in-game hiatus in P4 itself.

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*** What makes me worry is that it openly contradicts {{Persona VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}, as it's hard to believe the Personas of the P4 gang would go from Ultimate Personas to initial Personas in the span of a month, especially with the in-game hiatus in P4 itself.
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** Atlus[=/=]Arc Systems didn't supply the European build of the PS3 port until early 2013. To my knowledge, they're still waiting on the 360 version.

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** Atlus[=/=]Arc Systems didn't supply the European build of the PS3 [=PS3=] port until early 2013. To my knowledge, they're still waiting on the 360 version.

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