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*** I think it's to give the player a HopeSpot. Considering how she reacts if you "friendzone" her, the player might be left believing that she's a goner by the next day, so the game seems to try and persuade them to load another save file and tell her you love her, only for her to die anyway and deliver a more effective PlayerPunch.
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** I guess the fact that the only character folders are those of the girls heavily imply that those are the only ones that exist in the game proper. The fact that the girl you choose to help prepare for the festival insists on spending the day at your place instead of at theirs also suggests that the developers InUniverse didn't even make a background for their homes. On the other hand, Monika making Natsuki's father more abusive in Act 2 may imply that he does exist, though that could be her tampering with Nat's perception of the events.
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* So, if the entire world is nothing more than just a dating sim, do people that are mentioned in the script but are never shown (Natsuki's dad, for example) actually exist? The same goes for the locations. We've got the literature club, the street, the girls' homes, but is there anything else? My theory is that it doesn't, as the only events happening in the VN are scripted, and the characters don't have to go anywhere besides these locations, what do you think?
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** It's the game breaking. If you look at the glitching background, a mangled Team Salvato logo pops up when the intro part starts playing, followed by various jumbled elements from the title screen (the dot pattern and the character sprites). The game is trying to restart after the "ending"—or reboot itself because something has gone ''very'' wrong—but Monika [[Unperson unpersoning]] Sayori is causing it to glitch.
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** It's the game breaking. If you look at the glitching background, a mangled Team Salvato logo pops up when the intro part starts playing, followed by various jumbled elements from the title screen (the dot pattern and the character sprites). The game is trying to restart after the "ending"—or reboot itself because something has gone ''very'' wrong—but Monika [[Unperson unpersoning]] erasing Sayori is causing it to glitch.
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** It's the game breaking. If you look at the glitching background, a mangled Team Salvato logo pops up when the intro part starts playing, followed by various jumbled elements from the title screen (the dot pattern and the character sprites).
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** It's the game breaking. If you look at the glitching background, a mangled Team Salvato logo pops up when the intro part starts playing, followed by various jumbled elements from the title screen (the dot pattern and the character sprites). The game is trying to restart after the "ending"—or reboot itself because something has gone ''very'' wrong—but Monika [[Unperson unpersoning]] Sayori is causing it to glitch.
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* She does a lot of baking, but she's probably not making cupcakes or sweet things every single night--not to mention that a diet of just sugar and carbs would make you sick pretty quick. In fact, if all she gets is the cupcakes and pastries, plus Monika's occasional protein bar, she wouldn't be getting enough vitamins or nutrients to grow taller and stronger.
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** She could just be holding the knife in her right hand as opposed to her left. Holding a knife and making shallow cuts doesn't need as much precision as, say, writing or fiddling with machinery. (Or, if you prefer, Monika put in the scene with Yuri and her arm and forgot Yuri was left-handed.)
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* She does a lot of baking, but she's probably not making cupcakes or sweet things every single night--not to mention that a diet of just sugar and carbs would make you sick pretty quick. In fact, if all she gets is the cupcakes and pastries, plus Monika's occasional protein bar, she wouldn't be getting enough vitamins or nutrients to grow taller and stronger.
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* If Natsuki does so much baking, how is her dad supposed to be starving her? Of course, this plot hole is actually justified by it being one of Monika's clumsy rewrites, purely done to make Natsuki look bad and herself look good to the player when she kindly offers her a cereal bar.
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* Yuri is canonically [[https://youtu.be/hkoETzG5no8?t=13304 left-handed]]. However, when it's revealed that she cuts herself in the game, the wounds are on her [[https://doki-doki-literature-club.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_(DDLC)/Sprites?file=Cuts.png left arm]]. Wouldn't that make her ''ambidextrous'', because she would have needed to use her ''right hand'' to hold the knife? It could be, but Yuri replied in the affirmative when Monika asked about being left-handed, and there was no reason to lie.
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* Yuri is canonically [[https://youtu.be/hkoETzG5no8?t=13304 left-handed]]. However, when it's revealed that she cuts herself in the game, the wounds are on her [[https://doki-doki-literature-club.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_(DDLC)/Sprites?file=Cuts.png left arm]]. Wouldn't that make her ''ambidextrous'', because she would have needed to use her ''right hand'' to hold the knife? It could be, but Yuri replied in And if that's the affirmative when case, why would she lie to Monika asked about being left-handed, and there was no reason to lie.left-handed?
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* Yuri is canonically [[https://youtu.be/hkoETzG5no8?t=13304 left-handed]]. However, when it's revealed that she cuts herself in the game, the wounds are on her [[https://doki-doki-literature-club.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_(DDLC)/Sprites?file=Cuts.png left arm]]. Wouldn't that make her ''right-handed'', because she would have needed to use her ''right hand'' to hold the knife? She might be ambidextrous, but Yuri replied in the affirmative when Monika asked about being left-handed, and there was no reason to lie.
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* Yuri is canonically [[https://youtu.be/hkoETzG5no8?t=13304 left-handed]]. However, when it's revealed that she cuts herself in the game, the wounds are on her [[https://doki-doki-literature-club.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_(DDLC)/Sprites?file=Cuts.png left arm]]. Wouldn't that make her ''right-handed'', ''ambidextrous'', because she would have needed to use her ''right hand'' to hold the knife? She might be ambidextrous, It could be, but Yuri replied in the affirmative when Monika asked about being left-handed, and there was no reason to lie.
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* Yuri is canonically [[https://youtu.be/hkoETzG5no8?t=13304 left-handed]]. However, when it's revealed that she cuts herself in the game, the wounds are on her [[https://doki-doki-literature-club.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_(DDLC)/Sprites?file=Cuts.png left arm]]. Wouldn't that make her ''right-handed'', because she used her ''right hand'' to hold the knife? She might be ambidextrous, but Yuri replied in the affirmative when Monika asked about being left-handed, and there was no reason to lie.
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* Yuri is canonically [[https://youtu.be/hkoETzG5no8?t=13304 left-handed]]. However, when it's revealed that she cuts herself in the game, the wounds are on her [[https://doki-doki-literature-club.fandom.com/wiki/Yuri_(DDLC)/Sprites?file=Cuts.png left arm]]. Wouldn't that make her ''right-handed'', because she used her ''right hand'' to hold the knife? She might be ambidextrous, but Yuri replied in the affirmative when Monika asked about being left-handed, and there was no reason to lie.
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*** Monika was the debate club president in a dating game. If she was good at moderating there would be less conflict and thus less material for the game. So she's bad at moderating because the story and world need her to be.
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** Relatedly, why is the first option, telling her you love her regardless of your actions throughout the game, heavily portrayed as the "right" choice? Leading on someone who is suicidally depressed and in crisis seems far more cruel than the alternative.
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*** there is actually a mod with this premise, Monika Before Story. Monika modify the game to make MC the president believing that this would be the only way to make everyone happy. Initially this seems to work fine, the girls doesn't have severe issues like in the main game, Monika isn't self aware, the MC act normally and he can get an appy ending with one of the girls [[spoiler: until you reach the true ending and discover that the "happy endings" are actually MC tampering with the game in order to remove the girls free will and force them to fall in love with him. You actually have to work against your character to give the girls an happy ending. He became even worst than Monika, since he is clearly more cunning and more capable of modify the game. Obviously that's just a mod, and I'm not really sure if the MC would actually be so much of an assole if he gain self awareness, but he still will likely go mad, so that solution is not really a good idea]]
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*** there There is actually a mod with this premise, ''Monika Before Story''. Monika Before Story. Monika modify modifies the game to make MC the president believing that this would be the only way to make everyone happy. Initially this seems to work fine, the girls doesn't don't have severe issues like in the main game, Monika isn't self aware, the MC act acts normally and he can get an appy a happy ending with one of the girls [[spoiler: until you reach the true ending and discover that the "happy endings" are actually MC tampering with the game in order to remove the girls girls' free will and force them to fall in love with him. You actually have to work against your character to give the girls an happy ending. He became even worst worse than Monika, since he is clearly more cunning and more capable of modify modifying the game. Obviously that's just a mod, and I'm not really sure if the MC would actually be so much of an assole asshole if he gain self awareness, gained self-awareness, but he still will likely go mad, so that solution is not really a good idea]]idea.]]
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** Another possibility is that the PC can't inherit the leadership of the Club because they aren't supposed to exist as an individual. They're meant to be a vessel, a blank slate for the player on the other side of the screen. It's suggested that Monica herself cobbled together an actual character to interact with the player, so there may not actually BE a character there
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***there is actually a mod with this premise, Monika Before Story. Monika modify the game to make MC the president believing that this would be the only way to make everyone happy. Initially this seems to work fine, the girls doesn't have severe issues like in the main game, Monika isn't self aware, the MC act normally and he can get an appy ending with one of the girls [[spoiler: until you reach the true ending and discover that the "happy endings" are actually MC tampering with the game in order to remove the girls free will and force them to fall in love with him. You actually have to work against your character to give the girls an happy ending. He became even worst than Monika, since he is clearly more cunning and more capable of modify the game. Obviously that's just a mod, and I'm not really sure if the MC would actually be so much of an assole if he gain self awareness, but he still will likely go mad, so that solution is not really a good idea]]
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**** This may lead to some slight [[FridgeBrilliance Fridge Brilliance]]/[[FridgeHorror Fridge Horror]]: Monika doesn't just want to be an option--she wants to be the only option (''Just Monika''). Who's to say that if she had the option of simply creating her own route, she wouldn't have torn the girls and the world itself apart to be the PC's/player's one and only anyways?
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** It's easy to overlook because Monika herself gradually phases him out of the game, but the player character ''is'' a being in their own right. By this logic, the player is either giving the metafictional awareness ball to the PC, who now not only knows he's fictional but that he's being controlled (hey, wasn't there something in ''[[BlackMirrorBandersnatch Black Mirror]]'' about that...?), or straight up doing what Monika does: erasing the PC's memories and personality and making them an [[EmptyShell Empty Shell]]. It's a route, but I don't know if it's the happy ending everyone would want.
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** It's easy to overlook because Monika herself gradually phases him out of the game, but the player character ''is'' a being in their own right. By this logic, the player is either giving the metafictional awareness ball to the PC, who now not only knows he's fictional but that he's being controlled (hey, wasn't there something in ''[[BlackMirrorBandersnatch ''[[Film/BlackMirrorBandersnatch Black Mirror]]'' about that...?), or straight up doing what Monika does: erasing the PC's memories and personality and making them an [[EmptyShell Empty Shell]]. It's a route, but I don't know if it's the happy ending everyone would want.
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** It's easy to overlook because Monika herself gradually phases him out of the game, but the player character ''is'' a being in their own right. By this logic, the player is either giving the metafictional awareness ball to the PC, who now not only knows he's fictional but that he's being controlled (hey, wasn't there something in ''[[BlackMirrorBandersnatch Black Mirror]]'' about that...?), or straight up doing what Monika does: erasing the PC's memories and personality and making them an [[EmptyShell Empty Shell]]. It's a route, but I don't know if it's the happy ending everyone would want.
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* Is the red book in the intro meant to be the Portrait of Markov?
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** Perhaps there's a metal hoop on the ceiling that we just didn't get to see.
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** Granted, the third option of "Come to me if you need help" is very similar to the "friend" option, it's just stated in a different way. It's still something a friend would tell you. Also, therapy likely exists InUniverse, but considering how much Sayori had to be pressed to admit her problems, she might not want to go to therapy (which is unfortunately TruthInTelevision), and MC, like many friends of depressed people, might not have the resources to help her, especially since he outright admits that he doesn't understand how she feels.
*** Also, Sayori doesn't kill herself because of being "friend zoned" or not believing that you love her (being loved by you upset her contradictory feelings of both wanting to be loved, but also wanting to be ignored). It was pretty much because Monika messed with her. Regardless of what MC would have said, it wouldn't have mattered; that's the reason why he regrets his choice either way.
*** Also, Sayori doesn't kill herself because of being "friend zoned" or not believing that you love her (being loved by you upset her contradictory feelings of both wanting to be loved, but also wanting to be ignored). It was pretty much because Monika messed with her. Regardless of what MC would have said, it wouldn't have mattered; that's the reason why he regrets his choice either way.
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** Code runs pretty deep, and even code that has been 'deleted' tends to have left over data remaining. This is how people can dig into the script and find unreleased or dropped content in games. It's not out of the question that while "physical" Monika has been deleted, her code is so intertwined into the game that she still "exists" and can still influence the game.
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