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* So it turns out there's been a guy with powers equivalent to Franchise/{{Superman}} living on Earth for all these years... Which begs the question, what the heck was the Ghost doing when the Sycorax, the Cybermen, the Daleks, the Sontarans, etc., tried to conquer Earth? You'd think some of those world domination attempts could've gone a bit differently if there was a invulnerable flying man who can lift a spaceship with one hand protecting Earth?

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* So it turns out there's been a guy with powers equivalent to Franchise/{{Superman}} ComicBook/{{Superman}} living on Earth for all these years... Which begs the question, what the heck was the Ghost doing when the Sycorax, the Cybermen, the Daleks, the Sontarans, etc., tried to conquer Earth? You'd think some of those world domination attempts could've gone a bit differently if there was a invulnerable flying man who can lift a spaceship with one hand protecting Earth?



* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it feels like JustForFun/OneMarioLimit should be at play here.

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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, ComicBook/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it feels like JustForFun/OneMarioLimit should be at play here.
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* So it turns out there's been a guy with powers equivalent to {{Superman}} living on Earth for all these years... Which begs the question, what the heck was the Ghost doing when the Sycorax, the Cybermen, the Daleks, the Sontarans, etc., tried to conquer Earth? You'd think some of those world domination attempts could've gone a bit differently if there was a invulnerable flying man who can lift a spaceship with one hand protecting Earth?

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* So it turns out there's been a guy with powers equivalent to {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} living on Earth for all these years... Which begs the question, what the heck was the Ghost doing when the Sycorax, the Cybermen, the Daleks, the Sontarans, etc., tried to conquer Earth? You'd think some of those world domination attempts could've gone a bit differently if there was a invulnerable flying man who can lift a spaceship with one hand protecting Earth?
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** "Mysterio"/"Misterio" is also an album title, a movie title, and the ring name of multiple Mexican wrestlers. It's not as if it's that hard of a name to come up with.
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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it feels like OneMarioLimit should be at play here.

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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it feels like OneMarioLimit JustForFun/OneMarioLimit should be at play here.
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** There are also two characters with Atom in their names.
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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it feels that OneMarioLimit should be at play here.

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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it feels that like OneMarioLimit should be at play here.
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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when it comes to comics, I feel that OneMarioLimit is at play here.

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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when Grant says that's what the Doctor would be called in a comic book, it comes to comics, I feel feels that OneMarioLimit is should be at play here.
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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio? I understand it's a meta reference to what the show is called in some Latin American countries, but when it comes to comics, I feel that OneMarioLimit is at play here.
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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio?

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* Being a fan of superhero comics including Franchise/SpiderMan, wouldn't Grant know that there is already a villain named Mysterio?
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** Maybe that's why The Doctor stays in England and never bothers protecting the US? The Ghost already has it covered.

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** Maybe that's why The the Doctor stays in England and never bothers protecting the US? The Ghost already has it covered.


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*** Another possibility re: the Master and the Year that Never Was is that Grant was one of the vast majority of the Earth's population affected by the Archangel Network's mind control signal. After all, ''Jack'' was affected by it, and he's a human with a superpower and known associate of the Doctor. And Grant didn't have a visit from the Doctor (because the Doctor had yet to meet him) helping him to snap out of it.
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*** In that particular case, presumably the Master discreetly tracked down and neutralized as many such potential challengers to his power as possible ''before'' openly taking over the Earth, e.g. figuring out Grant's identity and taking his loved ones hostage. For menaces that attacked ''en masse'' or globe-spanning effects like Atmos or the instant worldwide forest, either the sheer number of enemies meant the Ghost barely made a dent in their forces or Grant didn't have the brains to puzzle out what was behind them.

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*** In that particular case, presumably the Master discreetly tracked down and neutralized as many such potential challengers to his power as possible ''before'' openly taking over the Earth, e.g. figuring out Grant's identity and taking his loved ones hostage. For menaces that attacked ''en masse'' or globe-spanning effects like Atmos or the instant worldwide forest, either the sheer number of enemies meant the Ghost barely made a dent in their forces or Grant didn't have the brains or time to puzzle out what was behind them.them.
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** It's not as if he'd learned that much ''about'' Harmony Shoal from their first encounter, either. He only heard the name mentioned once in "Husbands", as if it was a cult rather than an alien invasion force, and he didn't even know they were brains in stolen humanoid shells at the time. Heck, for all we know he's seen people with diagonal scars across their faces dozens of times before, passing them in the street on all sorts of planets, just like he keeps randomly running into blue people: the Doctor just never came into active conflict with them until these two Christmas specials.

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** It's not as if he'd learned that much ''about'' Harmony Shoal from their first encounter, either. He only heard a variant of the name mentioned once in "Husbands", as if it was were a cult rather than an alien invasion force, and he didn't even know they were brains in stolen humanoid shells at the time. Heck, for all we know he's seen people with diagonal scars across their faces dozens of times before, passing them in the street on all sorts of planets, just like he keeps randomly running into blue people: the Doctor just never came into active conflict with them until these two Christmas specials.
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** It's not as if he'd learned that much ''about'' Harmony Shoal from their first encounter, either. He only heard the name mentioned once in "Husbands", as if it was a cult rather than an alien invasion force, and he didn't even know they were brains in stolen humanoid shells at the time. Heck, for all we know he's seen people with diagonal scars across their faces dozens of times before, passing them in the street on all sorts of planets, just like he keeps randomly running into blue people: the Doctor just never came into active conflict with them until these two Christmas specials.
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** Over the course of Series 10, it's revealed that Nardole's new body is a patchwork of robotics and bodged-together secondhand body parts, like lungs the Doctor got on sale somewhere and a hand Nardole won in a card game.

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** Over the course of Series 10, it's revealed that Nardole's new body is a patchwork of robotics and bodged-together secondhand body parts, organic bits and pieces, like lungs the Doctor got on sale somewhere and a hand Nardole won in a card game.
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** In "The Pilot", it's revealed at the beginning that the Doctor built him a new robotic body that looks like his original.

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** In "The Pilot", Over the course of Series 10, it's revealed at the beginning that Nardole's new body is a patchwork of robotics and bodged-together secondhand body parts, like lungs the Doctor built him got on sale somewhere and a new robotic body that looks like his original.hand Nardole won in a card game.
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*** In that particular case, presumably the Master discreetly tracked down and neutralized as many such potential challengers to his power as possible ''before'' openly taking over the Earth, e.g. figuring out Grant's identity and taking his loved ones hostage. For menaces that attacked ''en masse'' or globe-spanning effects like Atmos or the instant worldwide forest, either the sheer number of enemies meant the Ghost barely made a dent in their forces or Grant didn't have the brains to puzzle out what was behind them.
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**It's implied that he's fresh coming off a twenty four year honeymoon with River that was capped by her death. Maybe he's preoccupied, mentally speaking. Another possible cause is that Harmony Shoal didn't make a big enough impression. Considering how big the Doctor's RoguesGallery has become by now [[ButForMeItWasTuesday he sincerely forgot about the C-List villains]].
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** The above would apply to some of the crises, the ones that lasted only a short period of time and were limited to the UK, but not all of them. For example, during the Year That Never Was, the entire planet was made into a dystopia for year. So why didn't the Ghost fly into the Master's fortress in the sky and defeat him? It would've been easy for a guy who can lift spaceships with his left hand.

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** The above explanation would apply to some of the crises, the ones that lasted only a short period of time and were limited to the UK, but not to all of them. For example, during the Year That Never Was, the entire planet was made into a dystopia for year. So why didn't the Ghost fly into the Master's fortress in the sky and defeat him? It would've been easy for a guy who can lift spaceships with his left hand.
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** The above would apply to some of the crises, the ones that lasted only a short period of time and were limited to the UK, but not all of them. For example, during the Year That Never Was, the entire planet was made into a dystopia for year. So why didn't the Ghost fly into the Master's fortress in the sky and defeat him? It would've been easy for a guy who can lift spaceships with his left hand.
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** Maybe that's why The Doctor stays in England and never bothers protecting the US? The Ghost already has it covered.
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* So it turns out there's been a guy with powers equivalent to {{Superman}} living on Earth for all these years... Which begs the question, what the heck was the Ghost doing when the Sycorax, the Cybermen, the Daleks, the Sontarans, etc., tried to conquer Earth? You'd think some of those world domination attempts could've gone a bit differently if there was a invulnerable flying man who can lift a spaceship with one hand protecting Earth?
** Maybe Grant was still keeping his "Do Not Use Your Powers" promise at that point, and only ceased after one too many incursions.
** Most of those threats would have had just as much impact on New York as anywhere, so The Ghost had his hands full with rescuing people back home and didn't get the chance to track down their sources.


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** They may not actually be brains, but masses of pale tentacles that can curl themselves up so they ''look'' like brains. They were only folded up that way in the jars so they could pass for inert laboratory specimens.
** Just because humans keep their brains in their heads doesn't mean that's where the Shoal install themselves inside a human body. Much roomier accommodations in the torso.


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* If the aliens are constantly looking for new bodies to inhabit, why is the number of brains in the lab increasing? Where did all those extra brains come from?
** More arriving from space to aid the colonization effort? But then again, bear in mind that the only reason we know more are arriving is because [[UnreliableNarrator of what "Doctor Sim" told Brock to get his attention]], and may well have been a ruse to get Brock deeper into the room where he would "tap the glass", allowing Sim to block his exit.
** If they're only ''mimicking'' the shape of human brains, but are actually more pliable than we see, they may have left some actual brains from their victims in jars so they could double-check that they were accurately imitating such organs.


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** In "The Pilot", it's revealed at the beginning that the Doctor built him a new robotic body that looks like his original.
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** Given that Nardole is to be a recurring character in Series 10, and it had already been announced by Steven Moffat that his story would unfold across the season, presumably this is something left intentionally a mystery for now.

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** Given that Nardole is to be a recurring character in Series 10, and it had already been announced by Steven Moffat that his story would unfold across the season, presumably this is something left intentionally a mystery for now.now.
* The Doctor at no point gives any kind of impression that he's encountered the Harmony Shoal/Shoal of the Winter Harmony before, even though he ''did'', in "The Husbands of River Song". If you watched this episode without seeing "Husbands", you would never guess that the Doctor's seen the Shoal before. This is rather out-of-character for the Doctor, who usually tends to mention if he encounters something or someone he's seen before, even if that first encounter was offscreen. What gives?

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** After cutting his head out of Hydroflax's body, he could have jumped back to where Nardole's body was left, since Hydroflax never checked on it.

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** After cutting his head out of Hydroflax's body, he could have jumped back to where Nardole's body was left, since Hydroflax never checked on it.it.
** Given that Nardole is to be a recurring character in Series 10, and it had already been announced by Steven Moffat that his story would unfold across the season, presumably this is something left intentionally a mystery for now.
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** They may be artificial organisms, originally created as spies and/or infiltrators by another alien species that ''did'' have manipulative appendages.

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** They may be artificial organisms, originally created as spies and/or infiltrators by another alien species that ''did'' have manipulative appendages.appendages.
* How did the Doctor restore Nardole after he was in Hydroflax for over 20 years?
** After cutting his head out of Hydroflax's body, he could have jumped back to where Nardole's body was left, since Hydroflax never checked on it.
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** The Doctor describes them as "peripatetic central nervous systems", which implies a greater degree of mobility than the ones sitting in the blue jars display. Possibly they only ''look'' like brains when they're sleeping, or curled up small for ease of transport. What ''look'' like the convolutions of a brain could be tendrils that can uncoil and slither around ''inside'' a host body, Colony Sarff-style. If the drones on the spacecraft are any example, their surgeons don't just do a brain transplant, they hollow out the entire "vehicle" and fill it with blue gunk, which the recipient can freely move about inside.

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** The Doctor describes them as "peripatetic central nervous systems", which implies a greater degree of mobility than the ones sitting in the blue jars display. Possibly they only ''look'' look like complete brains when they're sleeping, or curled up small for ease of transport. What ''look'' like the convolutions of a brain could be tendrils that can uncoil and slither around ''inside'' a host body, Colony Sarff-style. If the drones on the spacecraft are any example, their surgeons don't just do a brain transplant, they hollow out the entire "vehicle" and fill it with blue gunk, which the recipient can freely move about inside.

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* As the Harmony Shoal have no limbs outside of stolen bodies, how did they first start getting put in bodies to begin with?

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** The Doctor describes them as "peripatetic central nervous systems", which implies a greater degree of mobility than the ones sitting in the blue jars display. Possibly they only ''look'' like brains when they're sleeping, or curled up small for ease of transport. What ''look'' like the convolutions of a brain could be tendrils that can uncoil and slither around ''inside'' a host body, Colony Sarff-style. If the drones on the spacecraft are any example, their surgeons don't just do a brain transplant, they hollow out the entire "vehicle" and fill it with blue gunk, which the recipient can freely move about inside.
* As the Harmony Shoal have no limbs outside of stolen bodies, how did they first start getting put in bodies to begin with?with?
** They may be artificial organisms, originally created as spies and/or infiltrators by another alien species that ''did'' have manipulative appendages.
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* When we see the alien brains in their jars, they are whole, intact specimens. However, for their head flip trick to work, the aliens would have to separate their bodies in half. Are they singular organisms (which they seem to be, given that they refer to one another in such a fashion, like "brother" and "my colleague in the jar." Or are they colonies of organisms, similar to certain types of sea life?
* As the Harmony Shoal have no limbs outside of stolen bodies, how did they first start getting put in bodies to begin with?

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