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* If the Tweedys (and Dr. Fry in the sequel) are villains for killing chicken, and Mrs. Tweedy was approved as a CompleteMonster (and as Pure Evil in Villains Wiki) for that, does that mean any farmer is a villain despite [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman killing chicken not being morally wrong by human standards]]?[[note]]Vegans will say they are.[[/note]]
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* If the Tweedys (and Dr. Fry in the sequel) are villains for killing chicken, chickens, and Mrs. Tweedy was approved as a CompleteMonster (and as Pure Evil in Villains Wiki) for that, does that mean any farmer is a villain despite [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman killing chicken chickens not being morally wrong by human standards]]?[[note]]Vegans will say they are.[[/note]]
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* If the Tweedys (and Dr. Fry in the sequel) are villains for killing chicken, and Mrs. Tweedy was approved as a CompleteMonster (and as Pure Evil in Villains Wiki) for that, does that mean any farmer is a villain despite [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman killing chicken not being morally wrong by human standards]]?[[note]]Vegans will say they are.[[/note]]
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* Fowler is the only rooster before Rocky comes along. Yet all the hens (save two) lay eggs before he appears [[spoiler:and after he leaves, briefly]]. Think about it.
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* Fowler is the only rooster before Rocky comes along. Yet all the hens (save two) lay eggs before he appears [[spoiler:and and after he leaves, briefly]].briefly. Think about it.
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** Considering that Mrs Tweedy (who would be intelligent enough to know that the chickens should have to be properly prepared before being put in the machine) was there when Ginger was used to test the machine and said nothing, I’d be resigned to actually agree that maybe putting live chickens in is the correct thing. Also remember when the machine is fixed, she tells Mr Tweedy to get all the chickens. If the entire flock had to be slaughtered and prepared, it would take a fairly long time.
** Something to note: we see that the veg that goes in the pies is properly peeled and chopped (in pretty uniform chunks too). If we assume that that’s the same veg that goes in when Rocky goes in, the machine is able to prepare veg. Could it be a stretch that it could properly prepare chickens? Bear in mind, we don’t see anything of the chicken preparations besides the saw blades.
* Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and she’d never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.
** Something to note: we see that the veg that goes in the pies is properly peeled and chopped (in pretty uniform chunks too). If we assume that that’s the same veg that goes in when Rocky goes in, the machine is able to prepare veg. Could it be a stretch that it could properly prepare chickens? Bear in mind, we don’t see anything of the chicken preparations besides the saw blades.
* Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and she’d never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.
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** Considering that Mrs Tweedy (who would be intelligent enough to know that the chickens should have to be properly prepared before being put in the machine) was there when Ginger was used to test the machine and said nothing, I’d I'd be resigned to actually agree that maybe putting live chickens in is the correct thing. Also remember when the machine is fixed, she tells Mr Tweedy to get all the chickens. If the entire flock had to be slaughtered and prepared, it would take a fairly long time.
** Something to note: we see that the veg that goes in the pies is properly peeled and chopped (in pretty uniform chunks too). If we assume thatthat’s that's the same veg that goes in when Rocky goes in, the machine is able to prepare veg. Could it be a stretch that it could properly prepare chickens? Bear in mind, we don’t don't see anything of the chicken preparations besides the saw blades.
* Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken andshe’d she'd never provide enough meat for all those pies. Surely it’s it's a waste of ingredients to make a full production when they were only using Ginger for a test run.run.
** Something to note: we see that the veg that goes in the pies is properly peeled and chopped (in pretty uniform chunks too). If we assume that
* Is there only a setting on the machine to do a full batch of pies? Obviously it makes for a better scenario when Rocky keeps falling into them in the oven, but Ginger is only one small chicken and
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* Even though Babs looks sad before she comments if Edwina is going on holiday, why does she think that that’s the case? She’s been on the farm long enough to know what happens when a hen is taken away to the barn after roll call (and even later in the film is nervous about it herself!).
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* Even though Babs looks sad before she comments if Edwina is going on holiday, why does she think that that’s that's the case? She’s She's been on the farm long enough to know what happens when a hen is taken away to the barn after roll call (and even later in the film is nervous about it herself!).
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** It’s possible that it took a while for the chickens to be trained to do all these things (considering the longer it took for them to learn, the more Mrs. Tweedy would think they were unintelligent). By the time the movie takes place, it might so ingrained that it’s usual for the hens, and Mrs. Tweedy just looks at it as being regular behaviour (possibly just out of obedience/fear). One other thing that may factor in; at the time the movie takes place we see that their profits have taken a major drop, which we see Mrs. Tweedy is not happy about. She may well be venting her frustration through those comments.
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** It’s It's possible that it took a while for the chickens to be trained to do all these things (considering the longer it took for them to learn, the more Mrs. Tweedy would think they were unintelligent). By the time the movie takes place, it might so ingrained that it’s it's usual for the hens, and Mrs. Tweedy just looks at it as being regular behaviour (possibly just out of obedience/fear). One other thing that may factor in; at the time the movie takes place we see that their profits have taken a major drop, which we see Mrs. Tweedy is not happy about. She may well be venting her frustration through those comments.comments.
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* It’s a bit strange that for a rooster that’s as valuable to the circus as Rocky, it took a fair amount of time for the circus owner to come to the farm to see if he was there. However, Rocky crashing into the weathervane cut his flight short, which meant that he never got to his proper ‘landing area’, where someone from the circus would have probably been waiting for him.
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* It’s It's a bit strange that for a rooster that’s that's as valuable to the circus as Rocky, it took a fair amount of time for the circus owner to come to the farm to see if he was there. However, Rocky crashing into the weathervane cut his flight short, which meant that he never got to his proper ‘landing area’, 'landing area', where someone from the circus would have probably been waiting for him.
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** It’s very easy to miss, but the clipboard Mrs. Tweedy uses during roll call shows the address of the farm; it’s located in North Riding of Yorkshire.
** During the scene where Rocky’s on the tricycle, he’s listening to ‘The Wanderer’ by Dion and the Belmonts. The song was released in 1961. This indicates that the film takes place in the sixties.
** During the scene where Rocky’s on the tricycle, he’s listening to ‘The Wanderer’ by Dion and the Belmonts. The song was released in 1961. This indicates that the film takes place in the sixties.
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** It’s It's very easy to miss, but the clipboard Mrs. Tweedy uses during roll call shows the address of the farm; it’s it's located in North Riding of Yorkshire.
** During the scene whereRocky’s Rocky's on the tricycle, he’s he's listening to ‘The Wanderer’ "The Wanderer" by Dion and the Belmonts. The song was released in 1961. This indicates that the film takes place in the sixties.sixties.
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*** (Which means [[{{Squick}} you're eating]] chicken [[FridgeHorror ''menstruations'']].)
*** Oh please... Is that really any worse than eating Chicken Embryos? Still taste the same.
*** Agreed. Also, I can tell you from experience that hens don't need roosters around to lay eggs (I raise hens myself, I have several good laying hens and no rooster) and they don't care that much about their eggs unless, as the troper below says, they're going "broody" with them. In fact, if you take an egg right out from under a hen who's just laid it and throw it on the ground and break it, they will go totally nuts with excitement and they'll devour it, shell included. Also, as I can once again say from previous experience, some of them have no problem eating dead chicks, particularly if the chick died only partially hatched. Think about THAT in a human context.
*** Also, modern hens don't care if you walk off with their eggs, so long as they aren't sitting on them. An exception happens when a hen goes "broody," at which point she'll sit on about a dozen until they hatch. If you plan on taking * those* ....wear leather gloves.
*** Oh please... Is that really any worse than eating Chicken Embryos? Still taste the same.
*** Agreed. Also, I can tell you from experience that hens don't need roosters around to lay eggs (I raise hens myself, I have several good laying hens and no rooster) and they don't care that much about their eggs unless, as the troper below says, they're going "broody" with them. In fact, if you take an egg right out from under a hen who's just laid it and throw it on the ground and break it, they will go totally nuts with excitement and they'll devour it, shell included. Also, as I can once again say from previous experience, some of them have no problem eating dead chicks, particularly if the chick died only partially hatched. Think about THAT in a human context.
*** Also, modern hens don't care if you walk off with their eggs, so long as they aren't sitting on them. An exception happens when a hen goes "broody," at which point she'll sit on about a dozen until they hatch. If you plan on taking * those* ....wear leather gloves.
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*** (Which means [[{{Squick}} you're eating]] chicken [[FridgeHorror ''menstruations'']].)
*** Oh please... Is that really any worse than eating Chicken Embryos? Still taste the same.
*** Agreed. Also, I can tell you from experience that hensHens don't need roosters around to lay eggs (I raise hens myself, I have several good laying hens and no rooster) and they don't care that much about their eggs unless, as the troper below says, they're going "broody" with them. In fact, if you take an egg right out from under a hen who's just laid it and throw it on the ground and break it, they will go totally nuts with excitement and they'll devour it, shell included. Also, as I can once again say from previous experience, some of them have no problem eating dead chicks, particularly if the chick died only partially hatched. Think about THAT in a human context.
*** Also, modern hens don't care if you walk off with their eggs, so long as they aren't sitting on them. An exception happens when a hen goes "broody," at which point she'll sit on about a dozen until they hatch. If you plan on taking * those* ....wear leather gloves.
*** Oh please... Is that really any worse than eating Chicken Embryos? Still taste the same.
*** Agreed. Also, I can tell you from experience that hens
*** Also, modern hens don't care if you walk off with their eggs, so long as they aren't sitting on them. An exception happens when a hen goes "broody," at which point she'll sit on about a dozen until they hatch.
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*** [[ComicallyMissingThePoint But....roosters can't lay eggs.]]
*** Many egg producers buy day-old chicks rather than hatching their own. You can have them shipped to you through the mail.
*** Many egg producers buy day-old chicks rather than hatching their own. You can have them shipped to you through the mail.
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* What seems to be bugging everyone here is Perfectly Normal Chicken Behavior. And old Fowler was plenty to make sure all the hens were taken care of, despite his age. Make of that what you will, but hey, they're just chickens.
** Not quite; a typical rooster can service about 10 hens, so there were too many hens for Fowler. But for the reasons given above, the Tweedys wouldn't have cared whether any of the eggs were fertilized, unless they were sending them to a hatchery to be incubated.
* What seems to be bugging everyone here is Perfectly Normal Chicken Behavior. And old Fowler was plenty to make sure all the hens were taken care of, despite his age. Make of that what you will, but hey, they're just chickens.
** Not quite; a typical rooster can service about 10 hens, so there were too many hens for Fowler. But for the reasons given above, the Tweedys wouldn't have cared whether any of the eggs were fertilized, unless they were sending them to a hatchery to be incubated.
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** When used as an adjective, the word "ginger" means a light reddish-yellow or orange-brown color. He's identifying her by the color of her feathers.
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** When used as an adjective, the word "ginger" means a light reddish-yellow or orange-brown color. He's identifying her by the color of her feathers.feathers.
* Naturally, an egg will only hatch a chick if the mother hen bred with a rooster. Which means that all the chicks we see at the end would be either all Ginger and Rocky's offspring, or the guy would have had to mate with everyone of the chickens. Although it probably plays by the fictional rule that an egg always hatches if it doesn't end up as food.
** It probably plays by that other fictional rule of BabiesEverAfter, implying that they are Ginger's and Rocky's. We are supposed to treat their procreation as the human variety, not the chicken one.
** The tie-in book reveals that Bunty has a heck ton of children (seventeen, iirc) and I think Babs' daughter has an entry in the book, meaning those two presumably had children at the end of the movie.
** Also, the chick Mac puts in the catapult also shares her signature over-bite, which suggests that could be her child. However, the chick has brown eyes.If you take into account that brown eyes are a dominant trait, Mac has green eyes, and Rocky is the only brown eyed rooster shown in the movie...
** I suppose that'd also imply all of the green eyed chicks are Fowler's offspring, given that you'd need two recessive genes to have green eyes. The same can't be said about the brown eyed chicks—some of the hens have brown eyes and it's plausible that the chicks get their eyes from their mother.
** Or maybe I'm delving too deeply in the genetics of claymation chickens. Hopefully, the sequel will clear the water at least a little. We'll have to see in 2023.
** The plot of the sequel reveals that Ginger and Rocky [[spoiler:will have one chick together.]]
* Mrs. Tweedy has every reason to be skeptical when her husband tells her that the chickens are organized. Or, rather, she would, if it weren't for the fact that the chickens are clearly wearing articles of clothing, some of which were probably knitted by Babs. So if the chickens are obviously smart enough to know what clothing is, and smart enough to make it, too, why would it be illogical to conclude they're organized?
** Considering what she's like, she probably just isn't keen on admitting that her husband knows something she doesn't, [[IRejectYourReality even in the face of evidence.]]
* It's pretty bad financial sense to slaughter ALL of your stock in one big go. However, it may be an InUniverse example as Mrs. Tweedy just wanted to kill them all and not be a chicken farmer any more.
** Given her belief that going into the pie-making business would make her rich, she probably figured the pies would be so profitable she'd have money left over to buy more chickens, fatten them up, and toss them into the machine. Lather, rinse repeat. Kind of like how logging companies plant new trees after chopping down old ones.
* Something that always bugged This Troper: Why did Mrs. Tweedy marry Mr. Tweedy in the first place? If they actually dated and got to know each other, she must have known he was just a small-time chicken farmer. Unless she charged head on into the relationship without learning anything about him first.
** In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it scene in the beginning, we see Mrs. Tweedy looking at a profits chart, which started high but has since gone down drastically. Maybe her husband's family was rich once and she married him for his money, only for the farm's business to start going down as the movie starts.
* In the scene with the pie machine, we're shown how Rocky escapes the shredder; by grabbing a bar. We are not shown how Ginger did. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUdew5gMbTg It's around 1:10]]
** Ginger could have done the same thing, only the bar didn't drop down under her weight as she's lighter than Rocky. Or perhaps the bar automatically went back up after the weight is removed, meaning that it was still in the right position for Rocky to do the same thing. Still a bit of a coincidence that they escaped the shredder the same way, but we do know that Ginger is faster and more agile than most chickens.
* It’s a bit strange that for a rooster that’s as valuable to the circus as Rocky, it took a fair amount of time for the circus owner to come to the farm to see if he was there. However, Rocky crashing into the weathervane cut his flight short, which meant that he never got to his proper ‘landing area’, where someone from the circus would have probably been waiting for him.
* Time and place, based on background details:
** The propellers for the chickens' aircraft are made from road signs that indicate they are at least 33 miles from Halifax;
** Nick's suit, on closer inspection, appears to be made of Bank of England branded sackcloth. It also bears the insignia G (VI) R - ''George Regnis'' - referencing George the Sixth. However, in an earlier scene we can see a stamp with the face of King George's daughter, Elizabeth II, peeking out of Mrs Tweedy's post. This would indicate that the movie takes place after 1952, when George died and was succeeded by Elizabeth.
** Further corroborated by the fact that Fowler remembers serving in the RAF during World War 2.
** It’s very easy to miss, but the clipboard Mrs. Tweedy uses during roll call shows the address of the farm; it’s located in North Riding of Yorkshire.
** During the scene where Rocky’s on the tricycle, he’s listening to ‘The Wanderer’ by Dion and the Belmonts. The song was released in 1961. This indicates that the film takes place in the sixties.
* Naturally, an egg will only hatch a chick if the mother hen bred with a rooster. Which means that all the chicks we see at the end would be either all Ginger and Rocky's offspring, or the guy would have had to mate with everyone of the chickens. Although it probably plays by the fictional rule that an egg always hatches if it doesn't end up as food.
** It probably plays by that other fictional rule of BabiesEverAfter, implying that they are Ginger's and Rocky's. We are supposed to treat their procreation as the human variety, not the chicken one.
** The tie-in book reveals that Bunty has a heck ton of children (seventeen, iirc) and I think Babs' daughter has an entry in the book, meaning those two presumably had children at the end of the movie.
** Also, the chick Mac puts in the catapult also shares her signature over-bite, which suggests that could be her child. However, the chick has brown eyes.If you take into account that brown eyes are a dominant trait, Mac has green eyes, and Rocky is the only brown eyed rooster shown in the movie...
** I suppose that'd also imply all of the green eyed chicks are Fowler's offspring, given that you'd need two recessive genes to have green eyes. The same can't be said about the brown eyed chicks—some of the hens have brown eyes and it's plausible that the chicks get their eyes from their mother.
** Or maybe I'm delving too deeply in the genetics of claymation chickens. Hopefully, the sequel will clear the water at least a little. We'll have to see in 2023.
** The plot of the sequel reveals that Ginger and Rocky [[spoiler:will have one chick together.]]
* Mrs. Tweedy has every reason to be skeptical when her husband tells her that the chickens are organized. Or, rather, she would, if it weren't for the fact that the chickens are clearly wearing articles of clothing, some of which were probably knitted by Babs. So if the chickens are obviously smart enough to know what clothing is, and smart enough to make it, too, why would it be illogical to conclude they're organized?
** Considering what she's like, she probably just isn't keen on admitting that her husband knows something she doesn't, [[IRejectYourReality even in the face of evidence.]]
* It's pretty bad financial sense to slaughter ALL of your stock in one big go. However, it may be an InUniverse example as Mrs. Tweedy just wanted to kill them all and not be a chicken farmer any more.
** Given her belief that going into the pie-making business would make her rich, she probably figured the pies would be so profitable she'd have money left over to buy more chickens, fatten them up, and toss them into the machine. Lather, rinse repeat. Kind of like how logging companies plant new trees after chopping down old ones.
* Something that always bugged This Troper: Why did Mrs. Tweedy marry Mr. Tweedy in the first place? If they actually dated and got to know each other, she must have known he was just a small-time chicken farmer. Unless she charged head on into the relationship without learning anything about him first.
** In a blink-and-you'll-miss-it scene in the beginning, we see Mrs. Tweedy looking at a profits chart, which started high but has since gone down drastically. Maybe her husband's family was rich once and she married him for his money, only for the farm's business to start going down as the movie starts.
* In the scene with the pie machine, we're shown how Rocky escapes the shredder; by grabbing a bar. We are not shown how Ginger did. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUdew5gMbTg It's around 1:10]]
** Ginger could have done the same thing, only the bar didn't drop down under her weight as she's lighter than Rocky. Or perhaps the bar automatically went back up after the weight is removed, meaning that it was still in the right position for Rocky to do the same thing. Still a bit of a coincidence that they escaped the shredder the same way, but we do know that Ginger is faster and more agile than most chickens.
* It’s a bit strange that for a rooster that’s as valuable to the circus as Rocky, it took a fair amount of time for the circus owner to come to the farm to see if he was there. However, Rocky crashing into the weathervane cut his flight short, which meant that he never got to his proper ‘landing area’, where someone from the circus would have probably been waiting for him.
* Time and place, based on background details:
** The propellers for the chickens' aircraft are made from road signs that indicate they are at least 33 miles from Halifax;
** Nick's suit, on closer inspection, appears to be made of Bank of England branded sackcloth. It also bears the insignia G (VI) R - ''George Regnis'' - referencing George the Sixth. However, in an earlier scene we can see a stamp with the face of King George's daughter, Elizabeth II, peeking out of Mrs Tweedy's post. This would indicate that the movie takes place after 1952, when George died and was succeeded by Elizabeth.
** Further corroborated by the fact that Fowler remembers serving in the RAF during World War 2.
** It’s very easy to miss, but the clipboard Mrs. Tweedy uses during roll call shows the address of the farm; it’s located in North Riding of Yorkshire.
** During the scene where Rocky’s on the tricycle, he’s listening to ‘The Wanderer’ by Dion and the Belmonts. The song was released in 1961. This indicates that the film takes place in the sixties.
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** It’s possible that it took a while for the chickens to be trained to do all these things (considering the longer it took for them to learn, the more Mrs. Tweedy would think they were unintelligent). By the time the movie takes place, it might so ingrained that it’s usual for the hens, and Mrs. Tweedy just looks at it as being regular behaviour (possibly just out of obedience/fear). Another thing to consider, a lot of the times we see Mrs. Tweedy bemoaning the chickens intelligence she’s already irritated, which could cause her to say those things even if she knows it’s not necessarily true.
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** It’s possible that it took a while for the chickens to be trained to do all these things (considering the longer it took for them to learn, the more Mrs. Tweedy would think they were unintelligent). By the time the movie takes place, it might so ingrained that it’s usual for the hens, and Mrs. Tweedy just looks at it as being regular behaviour (possibly just out of obedience/fear). Another One other thing to consider, a lot of that may factor in; at the times time the movie takes place we see that their profits have taken a major drop, which we see Mrs. Tweedy bemoaning the chickens intelligence she’s already irritated, which could cause is not happy about. She may well be venting her to say frustration through those things even if she knows it’s not necessarily true.comments.
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** It’s possible that it took a while for the chickens to be trained to do all these things (considering the longer it took for them to learn, the more Mrs. Tweedy would think they were unintelligent). By the time the movie takes place, it might so ingrained that it’s usual for the hens, and Mrs. Tweedy just looks at it as being regular behaviour (possibly just out of obedience/fear). Another thing to consider, a lot of the times we see Mrs. Tweedy bemoaning the chickens intelligence she’s already irritated, which could cause her to say those things even if she knows it’s not necessarily true.
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* Mr. Tweedy refers to Ginger by name a couple times in the scene right after they eat Edwina for dinner and Mrs. Tweedy is looking at the advertisement for the pie machine. How would he possibly know her name? The chickens either don't talk around the farmers or their speech isn't understood by the farmers, so it's not like Ginger told him her name, and I find it very hard to believe the Tweedys named the chickens.
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* Mr. Tweedy refers to Ginger by name a couple times in the scene right after they eat Edwina for dinner and Mrs. Tweedy is looking at the advertisement for the pie machine. How would he possibly know her name? The chickens either don't talk around the farmers or their speech isn't understood by the farmers, so it's not like Ginger told him her name, and I find it very hard to believe the Tweedys named the chickens.chickens.
** When used as an adjective, the word "ginger" means a light reddish-yellow or orange-brown color. He's identifying her by the color of her feathers.
** When used as an adjective, the word "ginger" means a light reddish-yellow or orange-brown color. He's identifying her by the color of her feathers.
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* So, I understand the general concept that Mr. Tweedy thinks the chickens are intelligent because he's the one guarding them and dealing with their escape attempts, whereas Mrs. Tweedy handles more of the business end of things and thus doesn't get to see the escapes. Fine. But here are some of the things that Mrs. Tweedy is definitely aware of. First, the hens sleep in the exact same huts, in the exact same nests, every single night (how else could the Tweedys accurately keep track of which hens are laying eggs and which aren't). Second, they understand that the alarm means it's roll call time, and they know to go line up in perfectly symmetrical lines and stand at attention. Third, the lines they stand in during roll call are clearly precise in how they correspond to where they sleep in their huts, since Mrs. Tweedy is able to use the egg laying form to single out which chickens aren't laying eggs anymore. Given that Mrs. Tweedy is very aware of those things, how can she ''not'' understand that the chickens are at the very least somewhat intelligent?
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* So, I understand the general concept that Mr. Tweedy thinks the chickens are intelligent because he's the one guarding them and dealing with their escape attempts, whereas Mrs. Tweedy handles more of the business end of things and thus doesn't get to see the escapes. Fine. But here are some of the things that Mrs. Tweedy is definitely aware of. First, the hens sleep in the exact same huts, in the exact same nests, every single night (how else could the Tweedys accurately keep track of which hens are laying eggs and which aren't). Second, they understand that the alarm means it's roll call time, and they know to go line up in perfectly symmetrical lines and stand at attention. Third, the lines they stand in during roll call are clearly precise in how they correspond to where they sleep in their huts, since Mrs. Tweedy is able to use the egg laying form to single out which chickens aren't laying eggs anymore. Given that Mrs. Tweedy is very aware of those things, how can she ''not'' understand that the chickens are at the very least somewhat intelligent?intelligent?
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* Mr. Tweedy refers to Ginger by name a couple times in the scene right after they eat Edwina for dinner and Mrs. Tweedy is looking at the advertisement for the pie machine. How would he possibly know her name? The chickens either don't talk around the farmers or their speech isn't understood by the farmers, so it's not like Ginger told him her name, and I find it very hard to believe the Tweedys named the chickens.
!!How does Mr. Tweedy know Ginger's name?
* Mr. Tweedy refers to Ginger by name a couple times in the scene right after they eat Edwina for dinner and Mrs. Tweedy is looking at the advertisement for the pie machine. How would he possibly know her name? The chickens either don't talk around the farmers or their speech isn't understood by the farmers, so it's not like Ginger told him her name, and I find it very hard to believe the Tweedys named the chickens.
