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* Imagine being someone who has strong enough resonance to see hellions. Imagine being surrounded by monsters, and since a human having high enough resonance these days are rare, you are possibly the only one who can see them within your area. Makes you wonder how many people are written off as insane when they scream about monsters that nobody can see because that person is the only one who can see them. Unless a seraph comes along to explain everything to you, makes you wonder if they are willing to help as it seems like a lot of seraphs have low opinion on humans or need some convincing to help humans, or another human with high enough resonance comes along you might spent the rest of your life convince you are insane or be terrified of seeing monsters all around you that nobody can't see and become mad.

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* Imagine being someone who has strong enough resonance to see hellions. Imagine being surrounded by monsters, and since a human having high enough resonance these days are rare, you are possibly the only one who can see them within your area. Makes you wonder how many people are written off as insane when they scream about monsters that nobody can see because that person is the only one who can see them. Unless a seraph comes along to explain everything to you, makes you wonder if they are willing to help as it seems like a lot of seraphs have low opinion on humans or need some convincing to help humans, which is not very likely, or another human with high enough resonance comes along you might spent the rest of your life convince you are insane or be terrified of seeing monsters all around you that nobody can't see and become mad.
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** Even before that, early on Alisha shows she understands why even a corrupt chancellor like Bartlow is necessary by asking the Scattered Bones to not kill him because he is needed for Hyland to function. She has some capability even early on to acknowledge the grey, it just took the above incident and working with the politician to really open her eyes further.

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** Even before that, early on Alisha shows she understands why even a corrupt chancellor like Bartlow is necessary by asking the Scattered Bones to not kill him because he is needed for Hyland to function. You can even activate a skit at the inn after this where she notes without the councilors Hyland would fall to chaos without proper leadership. She has some capability even early on to acknowledge the grey, it just took the above incident and working with the politician to really open her eyes further.
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** Even before that, early on Alisha shows she understands why even a corrupt chancellor like Bartlow is necessary by asking the Scattered Bones to not kill him because he is needed for Hyland to function. She has some capability even early on to acknowledge the grey, it just took the above incident and working with the politician to really open her eyes further.

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\n* Each Seraph party member's strongest standard spell is an elemental combination that reflects the game's ElementalRockPaperScissors.
** Lailah's Flare Vortex mixes Fire and Wind. Wind is subordinate to Fire.[[note]]Lightning Blast is a unique spell that doesn't use Lailah's main element at all[[/note]]
** Mikleo's Violet Storm mixes Water and Fire. Fire is subordinate to Water.
** Edna's Final Embrace mixes Earth and Water. Water is subordinate to Earth.[[note]]Quake Trigger has unique mechanics that prevent it from being considered a standard spell[[/note]] This is also why Edna is the one who gets it, not Mikleo [[IceMagicIsWater as most would expect]].
** Dezel's Horizon Storm mixes Wind and Earth. Earth is subordinate to Wind.

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** It's ''even worse than that.'' [[spoiler:The entire reason Maotelus is created in the first place is because with Innominat sealed away, the Four Elemental Empyreans's powers would clash together and bring about a great catastrophe to the world, which is why Maotelus is created to keep the four other Emypyreans in check. With Maotelus corrupted, there's nobody to keep the four Elemental Lords in check anymore. In addition to Malevolence running amok, the elemental powers clashing violently would no doubt leads to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt.]]

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** It's ''even worse than that.'' [[spoiler:The entire reason Maotelus is created in the first place is because with Innominat sealed away, the Four Elemental Empyreans's powers would clash together and bring about a great catastrophe to the world, which is why Maotelus is created to keep the four other Emypyreans Empyreans in check. With Maotelus corrupted, there's nobody to keep the four Elemental Lords in check anymore. While Empyreans can be replaced, it's unlikely that the party can find a replacement considering that other than Lailah, who used an oath, there aren't any Seraphim with similar powers to Maotelus and Innominat. In addition to Malevolence running amok, the elemental powers clashing violently would no doubt leads lead to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt.]]
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** It's ''even worse than that.'' [[spoiler:The entire reason Maotelus is created in the first place is because with Innominat sealed away, the Four Elemental Empyreans's powers would clash together and bring about a great catastrophe to the world, which is why Maotelus is created to keep the four other Emypyreans in check. With Maotelus corrupted, there's nobody to keep the four Elemental Lords in check anymore. In addition to Malevolence running amok, the elemental powers clashing violently would no doubt leads to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt.]]
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** And then ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' provided even more context. [[spoiler:Maotelus being unleashed on the world isn't even the worst part; with him corrupted and no longer balancing the amount of Malevolence around, the world is in an unstoppable death spiral.]]

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** And then ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' provided even more context. [[spoiler:Maotelus being unleashed on the world isn't even the worst part; with him corrupted and no longer balancing the amount of Malevolence around, the world is in an unstoppable death spiral.]]]]
* Imagine being someone who has strong enough resonance to see hellions. Imagine being surrounded by monsters, and since a human having high enough resonance these days are rare, you are possibly the only one who can see them within your area. Makes you wonder how many people are written off as insane when they scream about monsters that nobody can see because that person is the only one who can see them. Unless a seraph comes along to explain everything to you, makes you wonder if they are willing to help as it seems like a lot of seraphs have low opinion on humans or need some convincing to help humans, or another human with high enough resonance comes along you might spent the rest of your life convince you are insane or be terrified of seeing monsters all around you that nobody can't see and become mad.
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** This explains why she couldn't be Sorey's squire, why the seraphim were so wary of her, one of the reasons why Sorey rejected her at the end. Alisha was so enthralled by the Tales of Chivalry and heroism that she willfully ignored the truth and shirked her responsibilities in order to to fulfill her fantasy of being a knight and experiencing those heroic tales herself, the seraphim, beings who cannot lie to themselves realized that Alisha was doing, and thus couldn't trust her. Alisha can't be Sorey's squire because while she may like to ignore the fact that she's a princess of Hyland, the fact remains that she's still a princess of Hyland, and that title comes with a lot of baggage that Sorey had to bear by making her his squire. As a Shepherd Sorey can't play favorites with the two kingdoms, but as a princess of Hyland Alisha is expected to put Hyland first, and this includes influencing the shepherd to favor Hyland. But as shown if Sorey were to favor Hyland then Rolance would denounce him as shepherd and name him a criminal. Thus Alisha being his squire would ironically actively hinder in Sorey's duty as shepherd. Even if you ignore that then you realize that Alisha wouldn't be helping her goals by following Sorey, because the people who want the war are in power they would be all to happy for Alisha to be away from Ladylake and thus Hyland's political arena, and therefore unable to gain any political influence with the other nobles who disagree with the war or are undecided, and Sorey can't stay in Hyland. One of the reasons Sorey rejects her offer at the end of the game is partially because he simply has no romantic interest in her, and he also realized that their goals are pulling them in opposite directions. In order for Alisha to achieve her goals of world peace she needs to stay where the politician action is, which are Lastonbell and Ladylake, meanwhile Sorey's duties require him to not be tied down. This exchange also made clear that despite being Sorey's squire for a time, Alisha still doesn't truly understand Sorey and his duty as a shepherd and thus was unsuitable to be his squire.
** The above sounds right except for the Seraphim being wary of Alisha; in fact, she's ''just as pure'' as Sorey in nature despite what she's dealing with. They were all happy to have her on Sorey's side as his squire. She only left because her goals were not their goals [[spoiler: and because she was weakening Sorey through the pact]]. And Sorey didn't "reject" her at the end because of those reasons either; he just honestly said he has other things to do (and is noted via skit that he didn't know it counted as a rejection) and so will not be going with Alisha.
*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats both you and Sorey over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.

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** This explains why she couldn't be Sorey's squire, why the seraphim were so wary of her, one of the reasons why Sorey rejected her at the end. Alisha was so enthralled by the Tales of Chivalry and heroism that she willfully ignored the truth and shirked her responsibilities in order to to fulfill her fantasy of being a knight and experiencing those heroic tales herself, the seraphim, beings who cannot lie to themselves realized that Alisha was doing, and thus couldn't trust her. Alisha can't be Sorey's squire because while she may like to ignore the fact that she's a princess of Hyland, the fact remains that she's still a princess of Hyland, and that title comes with a lot of baggage that Sorey had to bear by making her his squire. As a Shepherd Sorey can't play favorites with the two kingdoms, but as a princess of Hyland Alisha is expected to put Hyland first, and this includes influencing the shepherd to favor Hyland. But as shown if Sorey were to favor Hyland then Rolance would denounce him as shepherd and name him a criminal. Thus Alisha being his squire would ironically actively hinder in Sorey's duty as shepherd. Even if you ignore that then you realize that Alisha wouldn't be helping her goals by following Sorey, because the people who want the war are in power they would be all to happy for Alisha to be away from Ladylake and thus Hyland's political arena, and therefore unable to gain any political influence with the other nobles who disagree with the war or are undecided, and Sorey can't stay in Hyland. One of the reasons Sorey rejects her offer at the end of the game is partially because he simply has no romantic interest in her, and he also realized that their goals are pulling them in opposite directions. In order for Alisha to achieve her goals of world peace she needs to stay where the politician action is, which are Lastonbell and Ladylake, meanwhile Sorey's duties require him to not be tied down. This exchange also made clear that despite being Sorey's squire for a time, Alisha still doesn't truly understand Sorey and his duty as a shepherd and thus was unsuitable to be his squire.
** The above sounds right except for the Seraphim being wary of Alisha; in fact, she's ''just as pure'' as Sorey in nature despite what she's dealing with. They were all happy to have her on Sorey's side as his squire. She only left because her goals were not their goals [[spoiler: and because she was weakening Sorey through the pact]]. And Sorey didn't "reject" her at the end because of those reasons either; he just honestly said he has other things to do (and is noted via skit that he didn't know it counted as a rejection) and so will not be going with Alisha.
*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats both you and Sorey over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.

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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats both you and Sorey over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.

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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats both you and Sorey over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.
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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats you over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.

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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats both you and Sorey over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.
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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats you over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.

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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. There's also Berseria which goes further expounds on this, even a person who is pure can still turn into a hellion if they're pushed enough, this is the reason why Eleanor was made to slowly realize that Artorius and the abbey's crimes rather than have all the information dumped on her at once. Because if she was pushed too hard she would have turned into hellion. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats you over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.
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*** Actually it makes perfect sense if you considering something, Sorey asked Alisha to be his squire because she was only human he knew, but here's the thing, Sorey doesn't really know Alisha very well, and neither did the seraphim in Sorey's group. First impressions can be deceiving and Alisha in her first impression comes across as an honest and straightforward both with herself and the people around her, but it's only when your around her for an extended amount of time do you realize that that isn't necessarily true, because Alisha that's tricky because Alisha's virtues also hide the flaws in her personality. Alisha isn't at all truthful both to the people around her and to herself, despite what your impression of her would make you think, which is something that seraphim are wary of. In other words when the characters said that Alisha was pure they said so based off of their first impressions of her. Alisha is a character who appears to be this pure princess knight who became a knight to protect her people, but the truth is that Alisha isn't that at all. As for Sorey's rejection, Sorey doesn't have a line in the skit afterwards, it's only the other characters talking about him, and they merely point out that Sorey simply isn't interested in being with Alisha romantically. What Sorey told Alisha was that "her dream was something that she had make come true herself", he never says anything about having other things to do. Not to forget the fact that the game literally beats you over the head with the fact that Sorey having Alisha around him is more of a liability to him politically, as people think that she and him are in relationship and so will attempt to use her to control him. Not only that but having her around kills the idea that he's actually neutral and would make Rolance believe that he's siding with Hyland. In other words even if [[spoiler: Alisha wasn't making Sorey go blind]] he would still not keep a pact with her. As for helping her with politics he wouldn't do that either, because that's not a part of his duty as shepherd nor is it his goal. His goals as a shepherd was simply just to reinstate the blessings of the seraphim, save Maotelus, and defeat Hedalf, and nothing else. Being around Alisha would have forced him to stray away from his goals, which is a bad in multiple areas since [[Spoiler: every shepherd that ever gotten involved in politics either turned into a hellion, became a nihilist, had the peace they created fall apart the moment they died, or all of the above nothing good comes out of it]] and Sorey who has a interest in History and the Celestial Record might already know this, and also the reason why Lailah steers Sorey away from political matters.
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** The above sounds right except for the Seraphim being wary of Alisha; in fact, she's ''just as pure'' as Sorey in nature despite what she's dealing with. They were all happy to have her on Sorey's side as his squire. She only left because her goals were not their goals [[spoiler: and because she was weakening Sorey through the pact]]. And Sorey didn't "reject" her at the end because of those reasons either; he just honestly said he has other things to do (and is noted via skit that he didn't know it counted as a rejection) and so will not be going with Alisha.
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* If you defeat the FinalBoss ahead of time, you unlock the BadEnding, which shows [[spoiler: The team sitting in a cottage, with a storm raging outside. After a few short conversations, the camera cuts to the outside, where we see a large monster looming outside.]] This left many players confused, as there is no explanation to what is happening. However, once you reach the end-game, you find out that [[spoiler: by defeating Heldalf, you unleash [[{{TopGod}} Maotelus, the most powerful seraph of all]], who is deeply corrupted by malevolence. Since the party doesn't know that Heldalf was bonded to Maotelus, by defeating Heldalf ahead of time, you unleash Maotelus on the world, probably leading to even worse natural disasters and hellions than are already present in the game. NiceJobBreakingItHero.]]

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* If you defeat the FinalBoss ahead of time, you unlock the BadEnding, which shows [[spoiler: The team sitting in a cottage, with a storm raging outside. After a few short conversations, the camera cuts to the outside, where we see a large monster looming outside.]] This left many players confused, as there is no explanation to what is happening. However, once you reach the end-game, you find out that [[spoiler: by defeating Heldalf, you unleash [[{{TopGod}} Maotelus, the most powerful seraph of all]], who is deeply corrupted by malevolence. Since the party doesn't know that Heldalf was bonded to Maotelus, by defeating Heldalf ahead of time, you unleash Maotelus on the world, probably leading to even worse natural disasters and hellions than are already present in the game. NiceJobBreakingItHero.]]
** And then ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'' provided even more context. [[spoiler:Maotelus being unleashed on the world isn't even the worst part; with him corrupted and no longer balancing the amount of Malevolence around, the world is in an unstoppable death spiral.
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\n** Actually the members of the council are also nobles, Maltran is also a noble, you come across a handful of Hyland nobles throughout the story, and the real reason why see more nobles is simply because as Lailah points out multiple times Sorey can't help everyone, there's literally no reason for Sorey to meet them on his own, so he doesn't, and Alisha also plays a part in Sorey not meeting them either. As character's point out multiple times in skits the other nobles don't really get along with Alisha, so she has no friends amongst the nobles, so there is no avenue to allow Sorey to run into more nobles. This is also the reason for Alisha's lack of political power. Alisha despite the fact that she makes it seem as though she's involved in politics by way of being a knight, in reality that couldn't be further from the truth, Alisha actually doesn't like being a princess and so she has a tendency to shirk her duties as a princess in order to be a knight. This results in her simply not being around the political sphere long enough to make a difference since she values being a knight over being a princess, this results in her frequently choosing her knightly duties over her duties as a princess. All of this amounts to Alisha not actually having much of any political presence '''because''' she's chosen to be a knight.
* The above explanation works to explain all of Alisha's character including why she ultimately couldn't be Sorey's squire. At the beginning of the game Alisha makes the claim that she doesn't have any political power because she's actually more akin to a lower class noble, but that claim doesn't make sense that she quickly rises in power in the latter half of the game, despite not having the council on her side. This doesn't match up to Alisha's claim about her not really having any political power on her own, until you consider the fact that Alisha doesn't like being a princess, and so was likely looking for excuses to ignore her duties as princess. This actually explains Alisha's lack of political power, since even powerful kings need political allies in order to rule, but Alisha was hated being a princess and so didn't care to make any political allies, and her confrontational attitude towards other nobles didn't endear her to them either. So if Alisha was lying to herself the whole time, why didn't she become a hellion? Because Alisha genuinely believed it.
** Alisha quickly gains political power by the end of the game, even though the council is still against her, this seems to come out of nowhere, until you remember that one of Iris Gem quests, where Alisha jumps to conclusions and ends [[NiceJobBreakingItHero interrupting the meeting between a Hyland and Rolance politicians who were planning on forging peace between Rolance and Hyland]], said quest ends in the Hyland politician he effectively blackmailing Alisha. At the end of the game we find out that Alisha on the order of this politican has been currying favor from the nobles an act that Alisha would have been against at the beginning of the game. This is a full 360 until you realize that Alisha probably started currying favor from the nobles because the Hyland politician blackmailed her into doing something that Alisha would not have done herself, like say, forcing Alisha to do her duties as a princess. Due to the fact that Alisha is the princess and she now has political allies she was able to gain a lot of political power and influence.
** It goes further than that, said blackmail is also why Alisha didn't became a hellion, despite Maltran's betrayal and her revealing that she set Alisha up to fail, by making her obsessed with being a knight. It's because Alisha being forced to act like a princess and actually seeing results from it resulted in her realizing this but being unable to admit to it because to her idolizing Maltran and the stories of heroes too much. [[BrokenPedestal Maltran's reveal]] resulted in Alisha losing the last vestiges of her hero worship towards knighthood, as the one thing that she used as an excuse had dried up, and she was being forced to admit something that she herself had realized and believed, and thus made Alisha finally prioritize being a princess over being a knight.
** This explains why she couldn't be Sorey's squire, why the seraphim were so wary of her, one of the reasons why Sorey rejected her at the end. Alisha was so enthralled by the Tales of Chivalry and heroism that she willfully ignored the truth and shirked her responsibilities in order to to fulfill her fantasy of being a knight and experiencing those heroic tales herself, the seraphim, beings who cannot lie to themselves realized that Alisha was doing, and thus couldn't trust her. Alisha can't be Sorey's squire because while she may like to ignore the fact that she's a princess of Hyland, the fact remains that she's still a princess of Hyland, and that title comes with a lot of baggage that Sorey had to bear by making her his squire. As a Shepherd Sorey can't play favorites with the two kingdoms, but as a princess of Hyland Alisha is expected to put Hyland first, and this includes influencing the shepherd to favor Hyland. But as shown if Sorey were to favor Hyland then Rolance would denounce him as shepherd and name him a criminal. Thus Alisha being his squire would ironically actively hinder in Sorey's duty as shepherd. Even if you ignore that then you realize that Alisha wouldn't be helping her goals by following Sorey, because the people who want the war are in power they would be all to happy for Alisha to be away from Ladylake and thus Hyland's political arena, and therefore unable to gain any political influence with the other nobles who disagree with the war or are undecided, and Sorey can't stay in Hyland. One of the reasons Sorey rejects her offer at the end of the game is partially because he simply has no romantic interest in her, and he also realized that their goals are pulling them in opposite directions. In order for Alisha to achieve her goals of world peace she needs to stay where the politician action is, which are Lastonbell and Ladylake, meanwhile Sorey's duties require him to not be tied down. This exchange also made clear that despite being Sorey's squire for a time, Alisha still doesn't truly understand Sorey and his duty as a shepherd and thus was unsuitable to be his squire.
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* If you defeat the FinalBoss ahead of time, you unlock the BadEnding, which shows [[spoiler: The team sitting in a cottage, with a storm raging outside. After a few short conversations, the camera cuts to the outside, where we see a large monster looming outside.]] This left many players confused, as there is no explanation to what is happening. However, once you reach the end-game, you find out that [[spoiler: by defeating Heldalf, you unleash [[{{TopGod}} Maotelus, the most powerful seraph of all]], who is deeply corrupted by malevenlonce. Since the party doesn't know that Heldalf was bonded to Maotelus, by defeating Heldalf ahead of time, you unleash Maotelus on the world, probably leading to even worse natural disasters and hellions than are already present in the game. NiceJobBreakingItHero.]]

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* If you defeat the FinalBoss ahead of time, you unlock the BadEnding, which shows [[spoiler: The team sitting in a cottage, with a storm raging outside. After a few short conversations, the camera cuts to the outside, where we see a large monster looming outside.]] This left many players confused, as there is no explanation to what is happening. However, once you reach the end-game, you find out that [[spoiler: by defeating Heldalf, you unleash [[{{TopGod}} Maotelus, the most powerful seraph of all]], who is deeply corrupted by malevenlonce.malevolence. Since the party doesn't know that Heldalf was bonded to Maotelus, by defeating Heldalf ahead of time, you unleash Maotelus on the world, probably leading to even worse natural disasters and hellions than are already present in the game. NiceJobBreakingItHero.]]
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* The noble family not being present save for Alisha actually makes a lot of sense when you think about the state of Hylan. Hyland is being run by the Senators and the nobility is more or less InNameOnly. Alisha though actively tries to be involved as a knight and princess despite this. Of course the nobility isn't shown in game; they hold no power. Alisha has to work to be involve, hence why the nobility is absent.


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* The noble family not being present save for Alisha actually makes a lot of sense when you think about the state of Hylan.Hyland. Hyland is being run by the Senators and the nobility is more or less InNameOnly. Alisha though actively tries to be involved as a knight and princess despite this. Of course the nobility isn't shown in game; they hold no power. Alisha has to work to be involve, involved, hence why the nobility is absent.

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* As pointed out by some fans, Maotelus's shrine was supposed to have four other Seraphim that had assisted Maotelus, yet when the party arrives at the shrine, there are no other Seraphim. [[spoiler: There are, however, four powerful Hellions of different elemental types across the shrine, with each one following the ElementalRockPaperScissors that Edna explains to Mikleo. One would have the right to believe that the four Hellions the group fought were really the four Seraphim that were supposed to be at the shrine.]]

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* As pointed out by some fans, Maotelus's shrine was supposed to have four other Seraphim that had assisted Maotelus, yet when the party arrives at the shrine, there are no other Seraphim. [[spoiler: There are, however, four powerful Hellions of different elemental types across the shrine, with each one following the ElementalRockPaperScissors that Edna explains to Mikleo. One would have the right to believe that the four Hellions the group fought were really the four Seraphim that were supposed to be at the shrine.]]
* If you defeat the FinalBoss ahead of time, you unlock the BadEnding, which shows [[spoiler: The team sitting in a cottage, with a storm raging outside. After a few short conversations, the camera cuts to the outside, where we see a large monster looming outside.]] This left many players confused, as there is no explanation to what is happening. However, once you reach the end-game, you find out that [[spoiler: by defeating Heldalf, you unleash [[{{TopGod}} Maotelus, the most powerful seraph of all]], who is deeply corrupted by malevenlonce. Since the party doesn't know that Heldalf was bonded to Maotelus, by defeating Heldalf ahead of time, you unleash Maotelus on the world, probably leading to even worse natural disasters and hellions than are already present in the game. NiceJobBreakingItHero.
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\n* The noble family not being present save for Alisha actually makes a lot of sense when you think about the state of Hylan. Hyland is being run by the Senators and the nobility is more or less InNameOnly. Alisha though actively tries to be involved as a knight and princess despite this. Of course the nobility isn't shown in game; they hold no power. Alisha has to work to be involve, hence why the nobility is absent.

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** It also gives insight as to why the melodies of original battle themes don't change as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were associated with [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always present in the party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the gap.]]

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** It also gives insight as to why the melodies of original battle themes don't change as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were [[{{Leitmotif}} associated with a character]] [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always present in the party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the gap.]]
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* The fact that the Celestial Record says a Shepard hasn't appeared in two-hundred years makes sense when you realize Michael wanted to live the rest of his life in peace. If he wrote about the Shepard's and then made the last section about him then no doubt people would seek him out to use him for their own purposes, which as shown with Sorey, was a likely possibility.


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* The fact that the Celestial Record says a Shepard Shepherd hasn't appeared in two-hundred years makes sense when you realize that Michael wanted to live the rest of his life in peace. If Had he wrote about the Shepard's continued to write in chronological order and then made the last section about him then no doubt included himself, people would seek him out to use him for their own purposes, which as shown with Sorey, was a likely possibility.

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* As pointed out by some fans, Maotelus shrine was suppose to have four other powerful Seraphim's that assisted Maotelus. Yet when the party arrives there are no other Seraphim. [[spoiler: However there are four powerful Hellions of different elemental types across the shrine. Each one follows the ElementalRockPaperScissors that Edna explains to Mikleo. This means the four Hellions the group fought had to be the four Seraphim that were suppose to be at the shrine.]]

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* As pointed out by some fans, Maotelus Maotelus's shrine was suppose supposed to have four other powerful Seraphim's Seraphim that had assisted Maotelus. Yet Maotelus, yet when the party arrives at the shrine, there are no other Seraphim. [[spoiler: However there are There are, however, four powerful Hellions of different elemental types across the shrine. Each shrine, with each one follows following the ElementalRockPaperScissors that Edna explains to Mikleo. This means One would have the right to believe that the four Hellions the group fought had to be were really the four Seraphim that were suppose supposed to be at the shrine.]]
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** It also gives insight as to why the melodies of original battle themes don't change as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were associated with [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always present in the party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the gap.]]

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** It also gives insight as to why the melodies of original battle themes don't change as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were associated with [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always present in the party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the gap.]]
* The fact that the Celestial Record says a Shepard hasn't appeared in two-hundred years makes sense when you realize Michael wanted to live the rest of his life in peace. If he wrote about the Shepard's and then made the last section about him then no doubt people would seek him out to use him for their own purposes, which as shown with Sorey, was a likely possibility.


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* As pointed out by some fans, Maotelus shrine was suppose to have four other powerful Seraphim's that assisted Maotelus. Yet when the party arrives there are no other Seraphim. [[spoiler: However there are four powerful Hellions of different elemental types across the shrine. Each one follows the ElementalRockPaperScissors that Edna explains to Mikleo. This means the four Hellions the group fought had to be the four Seraphim that were suppose to be at the shrine.
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** It also gives insight as to why the original battle themes don't change the melody as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were associated with [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always present in the party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the gap.]]

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** It also gives insight as to why the melodies of original battle themes don't change the melody as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were associated with [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always present in the party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the gap.]]

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* Why does Alisha's DLC use a different battle theme rather than any of the previous battle themes? Because the original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvclQWihAI three]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6Hn8KsfiU battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RYqqfI0I0 themes]] are all remixes of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jgfAFGAUQ Sorey's theme]]. Now guess who isn't present in the party at all in the DLC?

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* Why does Alisha's DLC use uses a different battle theme rather than any of the previous battle themes? Because themes. This could have been done on the developer's part to give love to an otherwise-AdvertisedExtra, but the real reason? The original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvclQWihAI three]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6Hn8KsfiU battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RYqqfI0I0 themes]] are all remixes of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jgfAFGAUQ Sorey's theme]]. Now guess theme]]...[[spoiler: who isn't just so happens to be absent from the party for the entirety of the DLC]].
** It also gives insight as to why the original battle themes don't change the melody as previously done in past games; it's because the themes were associated with [[CantDropTheHero a character who was always
present in the party at all party]]. [[spoiler: Once you remove said character from the party, the themes disappear along with him, and you're forced to make something else to fill in the DLC?gap.]]
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* Why does Alisha's DLC use a different battle theme rather than any of the previous battle themes? Because the original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvclQWihAI three]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6Hn8KsfiU battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RYqqfI0I0 themes]] are all remixes of [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jgfAFGAUQ Sorey's theme]]. Now guess who isn't present in the party at all in the DLC?

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* Why does Alisha's DLC use a different battle theme rather than any of the previous battle themes? Because the original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvclQWihAI three]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6Hn8KsfiU battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RYqqfI0I0 themes]] are all remixes of [[ https://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jgfAFGAUQ Sorey's theme]]. Now guess who isn't present in the party at all in the DLC?
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* Why does Alisha's DLC use a different battle theme rather than any of the previous battle themes? Because the original [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrvclQWihAI three]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A6Hn8KsfiU battle]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0RYqqfI0I0 themes]] are all remixes of [[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7jgfAFGAUQ Sorey's theme]]. Now guess who isn't present in the party at all in the DLC?

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