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** Another explanation is that if Mr. Ping got his radishes exclusively from the panda village, his supply might have been limited after the village was raided by Shen's wolves.

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* Why does Shifu say that the day Po was chosen as the Dragon Warrior was the worst day of his life, after everything that happened with Tai Lung? Simple. That day meant he'd alienated his adopted son for nothing. Shifu was convinced for the longest time the Dragon Warrior was someone he would train, as in someone he had essentially built from the ground up for the job, someone he could control. He spends a great deal of time and effort to train five different kung fu masters, fully expecting one of them to be picked by Oogway, resulting in a Dragon Warrior backed by four comrades they've spent their whole careers training with. Instead of that, he gets a total outsider; worse, a fat panda that seems useless and stupid. As far as Shifu knew, at the time, all his hard work with his students had been for nothing.
** This is also why Shifu admits the problem was within himself. Look at the phrasing he uses, RuleOfFunny aside -- painful, ''mind-destroying'' moment. Po being chosen as Dragon Warrior over any of Shifu's trained, powerful students, was the first step in chipping away at Shifu's arrogance. Po had nothing to do with Oogway's decision (as of the second film, that is) or Shifu's awful reaction to the news. If Oogway had chosen anyone else like a random pig or helpless villager he probably would have had a similarly bitter, resentful attitude.
* The final time Po sees his mother putting him in the basket, it's CG instead of hand drawn like all the other times we've see it. In both films, the traditionally animated bits were all dreams[=/=]fantasy pieces, while the rest of the film, the real story, is CG. We see this bit in CG the final time because Po realizes it's not a dream, it's a flashback.

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* Why does Shifu say that still considers the day Po was chosen as the Dragon Warrior was the worst day moment of his entire life, after everything apparently even more so than when Tai Lung was corrupted and imprisoned. While it's PlayedForLaughs, and may initially seem petty and insigificant compared to the far more [[LastOfHisKind visceral]] [[ParentalAbandonment traumas]] that happened with Tai Lung? Simple. That Po has to explore on his path to Inner Peace, it actually does make sense why this day meant he'd alienated his adopted son would be so genuinely scarring for nothing. Shifu.
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Shifu was had convinced himself for the longest time that the Dragon Warrior was someone he would train, as in someone he had essentially built from the ground up for the job, someone that he could control. He spends a great deal of time would control and effort mould into the perfect warrior. He first tried this with Tai Lung, which led to train five different kung fu masters, fully expecting the latter's betrayal and imprisonment [[MyGreatestFailure (which was already a deeply traumastizing moment in Shifu's life)]], and then he spent many more years training each member of the Furious Five with the expectation that one of them to would eventually be picked by Oogway, not only resulting in a Dragon Warrior backed by the ideal warrior, but four additional comrades that they've spent their whole careers training with. Instead But in spite of that, he gets all Shifu's years of careful planning and preparation, Oogway instead chooses a total outsider; worse, a fat panda that with no fighting experience who seems useless and stupid. hopelessly incompetent. As far as Shifu knew, knew at the time, all his decades of suffering and hard work with - including alienating his students own adopted son - had all been for nothing.
** This is also why Shifu admits the problem was within himself. Look at the phrasing he uses, RuleOfFunny aside -- painful, also refers to this day as a ''mind-destroying'' moment. moment, which RuleOfFunny aside is not only true, but also not necessarily a bad thing. In spite of his flaws, Po had nothing to do with Oogway's decision, and Shifu likely would have shown the same attitude to any other animal or random villager that Oogway chose. An inexperienced civilian being chosen as Dragon Warrior over Warrior, instead of any of Shifu's his trained, powerful students, was the first crucial step in chipping away at Shifu's arrogance. Po arrogant and elitist view of Kung Fu, and he eventually had nothing to do with Oogway's decision (as of adapt himself to fit Po's needs rather than the second film, that is) or other way around. As he explains, the key to Shifu's awful reaction to enlightenment was accepting that his problem was not Po, but within himself.
* Po's vague memories of
the news. If Oogway had chosen anyone else panda genoicde are shown [[ArtShift in traditional animation]] - like a random pig his dream in the first film's opening - rather than the CGI used for the main setting. This stylistic choice is indirectly explained when Po is being healed by the Soothsayer, during which he tells her he keeps having "stupid nightmares" about it. Po still knows or helpless villager remembers so little of what happened that day, he probably would have had a similarly bitter, resentful attitude.
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final time Po sees his mother putting him in the basket, it's CG instead of hand drawn like all the other times we've see it. In both films, the traditionally animated bits were all dreams[=/=]fantasy pieces, while the rest of the film, the real story, basket is CG. We see finally shown in CGI. It's in this bit in CG the final time because moment when Po fully realizes it's and accepts that this vision is not a dream, it's but a flashback.
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* While probably not intentional, Lord Shen's [[ColorCodedForYourConvenience color motif]] marks well his status as a villain in an East Asian setting, as well as firmly a LightIsNotGood character. White is the color of death, which fits closely with his health issues, while red is associated with both blood (obviously), but also with the [[TheFourGods Vermillion Bird]], who associated with fire and positive emotions (all he wants is the attention he never got from his neglectful family, hence love). On a much darker level, Shen's red and white colors and particularly his eye symbol also resemble the war flag of [[UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan one of the most terrifying regimes]] in Chinese history.
** On that note, perhaps Tai Lung could be associated with the White Tiger, which is associated with autumn and metal. Tai Lung certainly has some [[ElementalPowers personality traits]] associated with metal; he's ridiculously strong in both offense and defense, his major concern is perfecting his craftsmanship of Kung Fu by learning all of it, and his mindset is rigid and inflexible, to the point that he's not truly able to understand the Dragon Scroll. Tai Lung's return is viewed as "steadily impending doom/death," like autumn is sometimes seen (when not admiring the [[HollywoodNewEngland pretty colors]]). And, of course, he's a snow leopard, which like the white tiger is a PantheraAwesome with pale coloration. Hopefully, this is a deliberate pattern on the part of the writers which will be continued in future movies... because that would be ''cool.''
*** [[WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda3 Kai]] also fits with the color motif, being largely [[SicklyGreenGlow green jade]]. Jade, in China, is associated with wealth, aristocracy, longevity, and burial. As fitting his [[TheUndead defiance of the natural order]], Kai perverts all four meanings ([[{{Greed}} he steals the wealth of chi from other people]], [[AristocratsAreEvil is arrogant and egotistical]], [[AncientEvil is over 500 years old]], and [[{{Necromancer}} animates the forms of people he's destroyed to fight for him]]). Even more fitting, he shows an incredible ''dis''respect of jade in one way; it's supposed to be a sacred material, not suited for combat. Even beyond his jombies, Kai uses jade ''for knives''.
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* Po's mother comforting him before leaving. Not only does she realize these are probably going to be her last (and first) moments with her son, her attempting to calm him down is most likely out of fear of the wolves hearing his cries and coming closer. She's trying as hard as she can to keep him alive, and if she had left him immediately, she may not have been killed quite as quickly.
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** Throughout the short, Shifu tries to force Tigress into doing ‘his’ style of kung fu, which is very rigid and impractical and rather ironically unlike how Shifu actually fights; he is swift and nimble in battle. This could potentially also be him trying to ‘limit’ Tigress’s abilities in case she still does become another Tai Lung (another example of this is when Shifu refuses to teach the nerve-blocking technique to her or any of the other Five).
** Or alternatively, Shifu’s ‘style’ at the time of the short was actually very rigid in itself, just like his personality (which he actually passed down to Tigress). It was not only after Tigress showed him the prowess of her own style that he began to loosen up (even just a bit) and accept/adopt new styles.
* It feels a bit contradictory that while in Secrets of the Scrolll Shifu telling Tigress to control her strength/ferocity is seen as a bad thing, but in Secrets of the Furious Five it’s seen as a good thing. But that’s exactly what it is about: balance. That Tigress should use her strengths for good.

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** Throughout the short, Shifu tries to force Tigress into doing ‘his’ "his" style of kung fu, which is very rigid and impractical and rather ironically unlike how Shifu actually fights; he is swift and nimble in battle. This could potentially also be him trying to ‘limit’ Tigress’s 'limit' Tigress's abilities in case she still does become another Tai Lung (another example of this is when Shifu refuses to teach the nerve-blocking technique to her or any of the other Five).
** Or alternatively, Shifu’s ‘style’ Shifu's "style" at the time of the short was actually very rigid in itself, just like his personality (which he actually passed down to Tigress). It was not only after Tigress showed him the prowess of her own style that he began to loosen up (even just a bit) and accept/adopt new styles.
* It feels a bit contradictory that while in Secrets ''Secrets of the Scrolll Scroll'', Shifu telling Tigress to control her strength/ferocity is seen as a bad thing, but in Secrets ''Secrets of the Furious Five it’s Five'', it's seen as a good thing. But that’s that's exactly what it is about: balance. That Tigress should use her strengths for good.

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** This is also why Shifu admits the problem was within himself. Look at the phrasing he uses, RuleOfFunny aside--painful, ''mind-destroying'' moment. Po being chosen as Dragon Warrior over any of Shifu's trained, powerful students, was the first step in chipping away at Shifu's arrogance. Po had nothing to do with Oogway's decision (as of the second film, that is) or Shifu's awful reaction to the news. If Oogway had chosen anyone else like a random pig or helpless villager he probably would have had a similarly bitter, resentful attitude.

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** This is also why Shifu admits the problem was within himself. Look at the phrasing he uses, RuleOfFunny aside--painful, aside -- painful, ''mind-destroying'' moment. Po being chosen as Dragon Warrior over any of Shifu's trained, powerful students, was the first step in chipping away at Shifu's arrogance. Po had nothing to do with Oogway's decision (as of the second film, that is) or Shifu's awful reaction to the news. If Oogway had chosen anyone else like a random pig or helpless villager he probably would have had a similarly bitter, resentful attitude.



* The movie and the background material seem to give accounts of Shen's parents that don't add up. The movie presents them as loving parents who ultimately died of grief at having been forced to outlaw their son for committing genocide (banishment for such a crime seems like mercy, truthfully) while the background material classifies them as being ashamed of their sickly albino son. But look at how Shen took his banishment--he saw it as a sign his parents hated him [[NeverMyFault in spite of the fact he'd just committed one of the most horrible acts one could possibly commit]]. The one person who knew his parents when they gave him to her to raise was the Soothsayer, who outright tells Shen his parents ''did'' love him. On top of this, the Soothsayer is shown to be skilled in medicine when she heals Po after he's shot with Shen's cannon. Who's to say Shen wasn't given to the Soothsayer to be cared for because he was sickly and it's merely his own thinking that makes him believe his parents were ashamed of him? If he could blame them for banishing him for genocide, it's perfectly in character for him.

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* The movie and the background material seem to give accounts of Shen's parents that don't add up. The movie presents them as loving parents who ultimately died of grief at having been forced to outlaw their son for committing genocide (banishment for such a crime seems like mercy, truthfully) while the background material classifies them as being ashamed of their sickly albino son. But look at how Shen took his banishment--he banishment -- he saw it as a sign his parents hated him [[NeverMyFault in spite of the fact he'd just committed one of the most horrible acts one could possibly commit]]. The one person who knew his parents when they gave him to her to raise was the Soothsayer, who outright tells Shen his parents ''did'' love him. On top of this, the Soothsayer is shown to be skilled in medicine when she heals Po after he's shot with Shen's cannon. Who's to say Shen wasn't given to the Soothsayer to be cared for because he was sickly and it's merely his own thinking that makes him believe his parents were ashamed of him? If he could blame them for banishing him for genocide, it's perfectly in character for him.



* After doing some research, I am really starting to think Po and Tigress will get together because of a famous concept in Chinese philosophy: Yin and yang. Just in case you're not completely familiar with it, it essentially describes how two opposites need each other to create balance and harmony. Yin is feminine, dark, passive, quiet, introverted, and associated with night. Yang is masculine, light, active, loud, outgoing, and associated with the day. But what '''REALLY''' caught my eye were the animals that symbolize yin and yang. The '''TIGER''' represents '''YIN'''. The '''DRAGON''' represents '''YANG'''. Obviously, of course, this brings to mind Tigress and Po - the Dragon Warrior. Dating back to the first movie, we've seen a lot of scenes focusing on Tigress at night - when she tells Po "you don't belong here", the scene explaining Shifu and Tai Lung's history, Tigress and the four others running off to fight Tai Lung. In the second movie, there was the scene of Po and Tigress on the boat, the escape from the collapsing palace, the hug in the prison, and when the Five are being carried by boat to their "execution" after Po is believed to be dead. Whether you've seen the second movie or not, I'm sure you'd at least agree that a lot of Po-centric scenes occur in the first movie, and there are several of them in the second as well. Although, going back to the comment about Tigress hugging Po at night, it's worth noting that he hugs her during the day. Night and Day… Tiger and Dragon… Yin and Yang. ;) Even in the Chinese Zodiac, there is a Year of the Tiger and a Year of the Dragon. When describing the personalities, of the zodiac, this was what I found. I highlighted stuff particularly worth noting. Female Tiger: She has got an allure to cut your breath, she is captivating, funny and sexy. She is also '''filled with an unsociable independence''' and the relationships based on possessiveness make her escape for sure. The Tigress makes men camp in front of her door so much '''her charm is powerful but only one of the most patient men can hope to capture'''. (I thought of the scene where Po watched Tigress shatter the tiles in midair in KFP, and then grabbed "The Love Chunk") XD Male Dragon: '''What motivates the life of a Dragon is difficulty, he needs to prove to himself that he is capable to surpass himself and that his destiny is not like those of the ordinary mortals'''. In love like in business he wants to dominate, he will never accept the supremacy of a woman for anything else than the education of his children. If you know how to preserve his interest alive, he will cover you with diamonds. KFP - "Yeah, I stayed. I stayed because [...] it could never hurt more than everyday of my life just being me. I stayed because I thought if anyone can change me, can make me not me, it was you!" (Po, to Shifu) Not everything about the Dragon really describes Po, but not everything about the Tiger describes Tigress, either. Whether or not they put a lot of research into it, Dreamworks did seem to have some knowledge of yin and yang, so they included the concepts in both movies. In the first movie, I remember it appears when Shifu describes how Oogway founded kung fu using "harmony and focus". In the second film, it shows up during a musical montage showing the journey of Po and the Five traveling to Gongmen City as Lord Shen prepares his weaponry. Po even appears in the "yang", the light part; Lord Shen appears in the "yin", the dark part. in this case, representing the balance of good and evil. ... To conclude, I would just like to add that in terms of astrology, I'm a Virgo - and therefore I tend to analyze, sometimes excessively. So this might be looking at it TOO much. But I like Po x Tigress, and I certainly hope they hook up in the next movie or two.
** There's also the scene when they're fighting in the prison- there's a shot from above when she tosses Po, and the floor's designed like a Yin-Yang symbol- and they're both standing where the dot's should be. Well... Po's flat on the ground, but the point's still there...

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* After doing some research, I am really starting to think Po and Tigress will get together because of a famous concept in Chinese philosophy: Yin and yang. Just in case you're not completely familiar with it, it essentially describes how two opposites need each other to create balance and harmony. Yin is feminine, dark, passive, quiet, introverted, and associated with night. Yang is masculine, light, active, loud, outgoing, and associated with the day. But what '''REALLY''' caught my eye were the animals that symbolize yin and yang. The '''TIGER''' represents '''YIN'''. The '''DRAGON''' represents '''YANG'''. Obviously, of course, this brings to mind Tigress and Po - -- the Dragon Warrior. Dating back to the first movie, we've seen a lot of scenes focusing on Tigress at night - -- when she tells Po "you don't belong here", the scene explaining Shifu and Tai Lung's history, Tigress and the four others running off to fight Tai Lung. In the second movie, there was the scene of Po and Tigress on the boat, the escape from the collapsing palace, the hug in the prison, and when the Five are being carried by boat to their "execution" after Po is believed to be dead. Whether you've seen the second movie or not, I'm sure you'd at least agree that a lot of Po-centric scenes occur in the first movie, and there are several of them in the second as well. Although, going back to the comment about Tigress hugging Po at night, it's worth noting that he hugs her during the day. Night and Day… Tiger and Dragon… Yin and Yang. ;) Even in the Chinese Zodiac, there is a Year of the Tiger and a Year of the Dragon. When describing the personalities, of the zodiac, this was what I found. I highlighted stuff particularly worth noting. Female Tiger: She has got an allure to cut your breath, she is captivating, funny and sexy. She is also '''filled with an unsociable independence''' and the relationships based on possessiveness make her escape for sure. The Tigress makes men camp in front of her door so much '''her charm is powerful but only one of the most patient men can hope to capture'''. (I thought of the scene where Po watched Tigress shatter the tiles in midair in KFP, and then grabbed "The Love Chunk") XD Male Dragon: '''What motivates the life of a Dragon is difficulty, he needs to prove to himself that he is capable to surpass himself and that his destiny is not like those of the ordinary mortals'''. In love like in business he wants to dominate, he will never accept the supremacy of a woman for anything else than the education of his children. If you know how to preserve his interest alive, he will cover you with diamonds. KFP - -- "Yeah, I stayed. I stayed because [...] it could never hurt more than everyday of my life just being me. I stayed because I thought if anyone can change me, can make me not me, it was you!" (Po, to Shifu) Not everything about the Dragon really describes Po, but not everything about the Tiger describes Tigress, either. Whether or not they put a lot of research into it, Dreamworks did seem to have some knowledge of yin and yang, so they included the concepts in both movies. In the first movie, I remember it appears when Shifu describes how Oogway founded kung fu using "harmony and focus". In the second film, it shows up during a musical montage showing the journey of Po and the Five traveling to Gongmen City as Lord Shen prepares his weaponry. Po even appears in the "yang", the light part; Lord Shen appears in the "yin", the dark part. in this case, representing the balance of good and evil. ... To conclude, I would just like to add that in terms of astrology, I'm a Virgo - -- and therefore I tend to analyze, sometimes excessively. So this might be looking at it TOO much. But I like Po x Tigress, and I certainly hope they hook up in the next movie or two.
** There's also the scene when they're fighting in the prison- prison -- there's a shot from above when she tosses Po, and the floor's designed like a Yin-Yang symbol- symbol-- and they're both standing where the dot's should be. Well... Po's flat on the ground, but the point's still there...



* Ping's secret ingredient becomes something of this with his statement in the second film. "I took you inside, fed you, gave you a bath, and fed you again... and again, and tried to put some pants on you. And then I made a decision that would change my life forever. To make my soup without radishes, and to raise you as my own son. Xiao Po, my little panda." Since baby Po had eaten all the radishes, there was nothing left except Po. And nothing/love/devotion to one's true self is what makes the soup - and the Dragon Warrior - so special.
* It seems only appropriate that the radish crate Po was in ended up at the house of a noodle-maker. Had any other family in the village decided to take him in, Po would have eaten them out of house and home. But Mr. Ping's house/shop is a restaurant - a thriving one, with a good cook to boot, (see point below about the radishes) - and has extra food supplies that are more than enough to feed a hungry baby panda.
* This is a bit of a VisualPun: Everyone comments on Po's soft build, which has remained intact despite heavy training. Shifu also comments on how easy it was for Po to find inner peace. In Shaolin martial arts, "hard" kung fu means developing strength and rapid strikes in order to actively neutralize threats as well as discipline the mind, which is Tigress' forte. "Soft" styles such as taichichuan are based on smooth movements, and redirecting attacks rather than blocking them or returning. Though practitioners can be quite fast and strong, it doesn't require as much active energy and they are characterized by waiting for opponents to move first. Po excelled in soft style even in the first movie, mostly redirecting Tai Lung's attacks. Because of this, he failed the first time he tried to attain inner peace in the sequel because he was still using hard-style--punching the ship-mast and sparring with Tigress, which went against his nature. Once he used the style best suited to him, of course it was easier for him to attain inner peace.

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* Ping's secret ingredient becomes something of this with his statement in the second film. "I took you inside, fed you, gave you a bath, and fed you again... and again, and tried to put some pants on you. And then I made a decision that would change my life forever. To make my soup without radishes, and to raise you as my own son. Xiao Po, my little panda." Since baby Po had eaten all the radishes, there was nothing left except Po. And nothing/love/devotion to one's true self is what makes the soup - -- and the Dragon Warrior - -- so special.
* It seems only appropriate that the radish crate Po was in ended up at the house of a noodle-maker. Had any other family in the village decided to take him in, Po would have eaten them out of house and home. But Mr. Ping's house/shop is a restaurant - -- a thriving one, with a good cook to boot, (see point below about the radishes) - -- and has extra food supplies that are more than enough to feed a hungry baby panda.
* This is a bit of a VisualPun: Everyone comments on Po's soft build, which has remained intact despite heavy training. Shifu also comments on how easy it was for Po to find inner peace. In Shaolin martial arts, "hard" kung fu means developing strength and rapid strikes in order to actively neutralize threats as well as discipline the mind, which is Tigress' forte. "Soft" styles such as taichichuan are based on smooth movements, and redirecting attacks rather than blocking them or returning. Though practitioners can be quite fast and strong, it doesn't require as much active energy and they are characterized by waiting for opponents to move first. Po excelled in soft style even in the first movie, mostly redirecting Tai Lung's attacks. Because of this, he failed the first time he tried to attain inner peace in the sequel because he was still using hard-style--punching hard-style -- punching the ship-mast and sparring with Tigress, which went against his nature. Once he used the style best suited to him, of course it was easier for him to attain inner peace.



** The second person most concerned for Po and his adoptive father is Tigress - the person that was adopted herself as a cub.

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** The second person most concerned for Po and his adoptive father is Tigress - -- the person that was adopted herself as a cub.



* In the final fight scene, you might wonder how the cannon was held ''up'' by ropes attached to the ship's deck - the ropes actually held up the pieces of debris supporting the cannon's base. When they broke, the wood shifted enough for it to overbalance and fall.

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* In the final fight scene, you might wonder how the cannon was held ''up'' by ropes attached to the ship's deck - -- the ropes actually held up the pieces of debris supporting the cannon's base. When they broke, the wood shifted enough for it to overbalance and fall.



* Shen's [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/a/a7/Lord_shen_sun_symbol_by_kullervonsota-d7arux5.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/310?cb=20170519162419 sigil]] is a dead ringer for the [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/War_flag_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Army.svg/1280px-War_flag_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Army.svg.png Imperial Japanese war flag.]] Suddenly, the pogrom against the panda village becomes even more horrifying than it already was, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Alls_Policy especially when considering]] [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Chinese history]], and pandas being considered China's national animals.

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* Shen's [[https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/a/a7/Lord_shen_sun_symbol_by_kullervonsota-d7arux5.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/310?cb=20170519162419 sigil]] is a dead ringer for the [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/War_flag_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Army.svg/1280px-War_flag_of_the_Imperial_Japanese_Army.svg.png Imperial Japanese war flag.]] Suddenly, the pogrom against the panda village becomes even more horrifying than it already was, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Alls_Policy especially when considering]] [[UsefulNotes/SecondSinoJapaneseWar Chinese history]], and pandas being considered China's national animals.animals.
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* "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it." Spoken by Master Oogway in the first movie, it holds true in the second movie as well. If Shen hadn't attacked the Panda Village, Po would have never been abandoned and found by Mr. Ping.

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* "One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it." Spoken by Master Oogway in the first movie, it holds true in the second movie as well. If Shen hadn't attacked the Panda Village, Po would have never been abandoned and found by Mr. Ping. And if Shen had not attacked Po in the film's climax, his cannon wouldn't have crushed him to death.

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