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Uncanny Valley is IUEO now and the subjective version has been split; cleaning up misuse and ZCE in the process
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* In "Everyone Has a Cobblepot" we learn just what kind of man the Dollmaker is, and the consequences of those who fail him. This makes how Patti and Doug act all the more creepy, if justified. Patti in particular looked a little UncannyValley in the right light. Was her whole ''face'' a transplant, courtesy of her boss?
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* In "Everyone Has a Cobblepot" we learn just what kind of man the Dollmaker is, and the consequences of those who fail him. This makes how Patti and Doug act all the more creepy, if justified. Patti in particular looked a little UncannyValley off in the right light. Was her whole ''face'' a transplant, courtesy of her boss?
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* Bruce's hallucination under Ivy's toxin is trippy, but there's more than a little fridge brilliance in Gordon being the one to hold Bruce in the light so Alfred can reach him, and then Alfred is the one to take him to the Batman figment. That's pretty much the roles they end up playing in the creation of the masked vigilante.
** It also harkens back to Gordon's "there will be light" quote.
** The title of the episode. Batman himself ''is'' the "Beautiful Darkness" - sure, he's a HorrifyingHero, but he's still a good guy because of the guidance of the people who care about him.
-->'''Bruce:''' I think I saw who I really am.
-->'''Gordon:''' Then you're lucky. Most people go their whole lives without knowing who they are.
-->'''Bruce:''' I'm not lucky. You didn't see him.
-->'''Gordon:''' I've seen my own darkness. And you have people [[YouAreNotAlone who care about you]]. You don't have to fight this alone.
** It also harkens back to Gordon's "there will be light" quote.
** The title of the episode. Batman himself ''is'' the "Beautiful Darkness" - sure, he's a HorrifyingHero, but he's still a good guy because of the guidance of the people who care about him.
-->'''Bruce:''' I think I saw who I really am.
-->'''Gordon:''' Then you're lucky. Most people go their whole lives without knowing who they are.
-->'''Bruce:''' I'm not lucky. You didn't see him.
-->'''Gordon:''' I've seen my own darkness. And you have people [[YouAreNotAlone who care about you]]. You don't have to fight this alone.
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**Throughout season one we see indications that the above hadn't been the status quo before the Wayne murders. If this is true, then why would Thomas insist on this? Simply put, Strange and the Court of Owls would have used it as an opportunity to make a puppet of Bruce when he is young, naive, and at the most vulnerable point in his life.
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No point in putting Fridge Logic if it's just to say, "go somewhere else".
** The Riddler only gets frozen for a few months, so it doesn't work.
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!!FridgeLogic:
On the [[Headscratchers/{{Gotham}} headscratchers]] page.
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* In "The Blind Fortune Teller" we find out the Dollmaker is keeping people as spare body parts. then you realize what he's done to the kids and since there are no kids around.
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* In "The Blind Fortune Teller" we find out the Dollmaker is keeping people as spare body parts. then Then you realize what he's done to the kids kids, and since there are no kids around.around...(!)
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* There's some brilliant characterisation in the second episode between Falcone and Mooney that needs a second go to recognise. Mooney isn't angry with Falcone for beating up her boytoy - ''she's angry at him for humiliating her in front of her power base''. Her words to Falcone to try and get him to back off (really, a "I wouldn't consider Lazslo important") and her immediate scream to get all witnesses out after the deed is clear evidence of that. This also explains why she gets rid of Lazslo post-haste; why keep evidence of that humiliation around? Falcone also knew exactly what he was doing. Mooney hasn't actively been disloyal, and he surely knows all his subordinates want to get rid of him - he's not an idiot. But he needs to keep her in line. He explicitly asks her to keep everyone in the club to watch her public humiliation. The whole beating was a demonstration of his power to an underling - "Don't talk shit until you can stop me from walking into your place and breaking something important to you."
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* There's some brilliant characterisation characterization in the second episode between Falcone and Mooney that needs a second go to recognise. Mooney isn't angry with Falcone for beating up her boytoy - ''she's angry at him for humiliating her in front of her power base''. Her words to Falcone to try and get him to back off (really, a "I wouldn't consider Lazslo important") and her immediate scream to get all witnesses out after the deed is clear evidence of that. This also explains why she gets rid of Lazslo post-haste; why keep evidence of that humiliation around? Falcone also knew exactly what he was doing. Mooney hasn't actively been disloyal, and he surely knows all his subordinates want to get rid of him - he's not an idiot. But he needs to keep her in line. He explicitly asks her to keep everyone in the club to watch her public humiliation. The whole beating was a demonstration of his power to an underling - "Don't talk shit until you can stop me from walking into your place and breaking something important to you."
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* [[spoiler:Jerome]]'s face looked like it was made of plastic to many viewers, yet his body was in post-mordem at the time [[{{Squick}} so the skin of his face was likely still ''hardened'' when Dwight removed it.]]
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* [[spoiler:Jerome]]'s face looked like it was made of plastic to many viewers, yet his body was in post-mordem post-mortem at the time [[{{Squick}} so the skin of his face was likely still ''hardened'' when Dwight removed it.]]
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This isn't fridge anything, and is baseless speculation. Just because she doesn't freeze up doesn't mean that she's been in that situation or scenario before. Some people just react differently.
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* Let's set aside the fact that young Barbara Lee Gordon was born into a BadassFamily (plus an equally Bad Ass honorary Aunt), and is pretty much the future Batgirl. The child readily assists her mother when she is held hostage and attacks Jeremiah in a futile effort. Other than a small scream after her mother is shot she doesn't let up her attack. She doesn't react at all to Ecco being murdered and defiantly stares down Jeremiah even as he points a gun at her mother. A decade is a long time and many things could have happened. Look at the amount of times Bruce has been involved in a crisis. A child seeing their parent in danger and trying to help is one thing. But what could Barbara Lee have seen in her time to not be even momentarily phased by a murder? Even if it was a violent criminal? Even by handwaving the scenario by saying her parents taught Barbara how to defend herself, her prompt action indicates that this was clearly not her first brush with danger.
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* Let's set aside the fact that young Barbara Lee Gordon was born into a BadassFamily (plus an equally Bad Ass honorary Aunt), and is pretty much the future Batgirl. The child readily assists her mother when she is held hostage and attacks Jeremiah in a futile effort. Other than a small scream after her mother is shot she doesn't let up her attack. She doesn't react at all to Ecco being murdered and defiantly stares down Jeremiah even as he points a gun at her mother. A decade is a long time and many things could have happened. Look at the amount of times Bruce has been involved in a crisis. A child seeing their parent in danger and trying to help is one thing. But what could Barbara Lee have seen in her time to not be even momentarily phased by a murder? Even if it it was a violent criminal? Even by handwaving the scenario by saying her parents taught Barbara how to defend herself, her prompt action indicates that this was clearly not her first brush with danger.
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* Let's set aside the fact that young Barbara Lee Gordon was born into a BadassFamily (plus an equally Bad Ass honorary Aunt), and is pretty much the future Batgirl. The child readily assists her mother when she is held hostage and attacks Jeremiah in a futile effort. Other than a small scream after her mother is shot she doesn't let up her attack. She doesn't react at all to Ecco being murdered and defiantly stares down Jeremiah even as he points a gun at her mother. A decade is a long time and many things could have happened. Look at the amount of times Bruce has been involved in a crisis. A child seeing their parent in danger and trying to help is one thing. But what could Barbara Lee have seen in her time to not be even momentarily phased by a murder? Even if it it was a violent criminal? Even by handwaving the scenario by saying her parents taught Barbara how to defend herself, her prompt action indicates that this was clearly not her first brush with danger.
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* At the end of ''That's Entertainment'', when Jeremiah gets sprayed with Jerome's laughing gas, it at first doesn't make sense why he was able to be sprayed directly in the face with it at all, because any sane person would have dropped the box Jerome sent him instinctively the moment a creepy Jack-in-the-box sprung out of it, either because they were startled or because they were actually coulrophobic. However, it makes sense that even before being driven insane, the Joker would be one of the few people in the world who actually ''likes'' creepy clowns, so it stands to reason that he would just be puzzled about being sent a present like that, rather than creeped out. Symbolically, Jeremiah gets sprayed by Jerome's laughing gas and turned into the Joker in part because deep down, he's still more like his brother than he will admit, despite the fact that he spent over a decade trying to be as different from him as possible.
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** Even later in the series after Bruce takes several levels of badass, having his true character known by multiple characters still works, because everyone who knows Bruce well enough to guess at Batman's identity in the series finale likes him enough not to turn him in and/or approves of his unusual career choice. Interestingly true of even the two villains (Selina/Catwoman and Jeremiah/Joker) who were friends with him before he was Batman. They both guess who is behind Batman's mask immediately, even though Bruce's face is covered and they haven't seen him for ten years, and neither of them seem to even consider telling anyone. Justified, since Selina is still Bruce's friend and Jeremiah...[[InsaneTrollLogic at least thinks he is.]]
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* When Jeremiah blows up Wayne Manor, his bombs also demolish Thomas Wayne's hidden room and the end of Jeremiah's tunnel closest to Bruce's home. This probably means that the area surrounding the hidden room was also blown apart, giving Bruce room to expand that smaller hidden office into a larger base of operations that will eventually become the Batcave. This means that ''the Joker'' is indirectly responsible for the construction of the Batcave. Since most of his tunnel appeared to be intact even after the explosion, he also most likely gave Batman a quicker, hidden route directly from the Batcave to Gotham, which will make it easier for Batman to do his job, so [[NiceJobFixingItVillain nice job fixing it, Joker.]]
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* Babs names her daughter "Barbara Lee Gordon", so the girl will always know who she can count on. There'll be a ''fourth'' name added to the list of people whom that child can count upon someday, when she takes up the mantle of "Batgirl": a feminized version of that fourth person's name.
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* Let's set aside the fact that young Barbara Lee Gordon was born into a BadassFamily (plus an equally Bad Ass honorary Aunt), and is pretty much the future Batgirl. The child readily assists her mother when she is held hostage and attacks Jeremiah in a futile effort. Other than a small scream after her mother is shot she doesn't let up her attack. She doesn't react at all to Ecco being murdered and defiantly stares down Jeremiah even as he points a gun at her mother. A decade is a long time and many things could have happened. Look at the amount of times Bruce has been involved in a crisis. A child seeing their parent in danger and trying to help is one thing. But what could Barbara Lee have seen in her time to not be even momentarily phased by a murder? Even if it it was a violent criminal? Even by handwaving the scenario by saying her parents taught Barbara how to defend herself, her prompt action indicates that this was clearly not her first brush with danger.
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* Gordon's answer to Harvey's "Who is that?" when he and Harvey see Batman for the first time is that he's "A friend." Depending on one's opinion about Jim Gordon realizing who's under the cowl, that comment can be taken very literally.
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* Gordon's answer to Harvey's "Who is that?" he?" when he and Harvey see Batman for the first time is that he's "A friend." Depending on one's opinion about Jim Gordon realizing who's under the cowl, that comment can be taken very literally.
