History AffablyEvil / WesternAnimation

* ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'': [[Characters/TotalDramaDuncan Duncan's]] evil and does nothing to hide it, but can show streaks of politeness. He also does manage to get along well with some of the other contestants. Most notably with DJ, Owen, Geoff, Beth, Zoey, and [[spoiler:(formerly)]] Gwen. He also usually treats people with respect, until they wrong him.

* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' had [[MrAltDisney Grant Walker]] from the episode "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE19DeepFreeze Deep Freeze]]", who was a rather friendly and pleasant old man who had spent his life building theme parks and whose followers and henchmen all seemed to get along with. His plan, however, is to gain the same powers as Mr. Freeze (which he does) and freeze first Gotham and ultimately the entire world to drive the entire human race to extinction, save for his tiny select group of followers.
** ComicBook/HarleyQuinn is in crime just for fun and for her strange love toward ComicBook/TheJoker; she even has her own episodes struggling for rehabilitation. Other versions in other media show a darker and more violent personality.
** Wesker the Ventriloquist is another example, of course his problem is his SplitPersonality of the violent evil Scarface (his Ventriloquist's dummy).
* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' has Richard Armacost, the Agrichem executive who planned the cerestone heist in the episode "[[Recap/BatmanBeyondS2E25BigTime Big Time]]". He was extremely patient and civil with Charlie when he didn't really have to be and had considerable people skills with which to keep Charlie from losing his temper.
* Ragdoll from ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' is this, being not much more than a cat burglar with a ''really'' unsettling ability to contort his shape. Like Catwoman he has no interest at all in harming people and he comes off as a rather friendly and fun-loving person. When the laughable Killer Moth shows up to join Team Penguin, Ragdoll is the one who actually urges the rest to give the kid a chance (albeit also mocking him in the process).
* A decent number of the villains in ''WesternAnimation/BewareTheBatman'' are this. Special mention goes to Professor Pyg and Mr. Toad who in this series seem to be {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s claiming they want to protect the environment, they also show that they do care about one another and show a decent amount of respect for Batman as an adversary.

* Doctor Doom has always been this, but his version in ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourTheAnimatedSeries'' is even better, having a polite conversation with the captive Sue Storm and sincerely apologizing for [[DamselInDistress kidnapping her]]. He even laments destroying New York because he [[HiddenDepths never got to see]] ''Theatre/{{Cats}}''.

* ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019'' has several of the 'nicer' supervillains be of this kind.
** Ivy, despite being a snarky self-proclaimed misanthrope who hates 99.99% of humanity, is nice and supportive to people actually in her in-group, and will go through hell and high water for Harley.
** King Shark is a friendly, loyal and easy-going computer hacker. Also, a 2,700 pound SharkMan who can casually eat people's heads whole. His voice actor described him as "a great guy in everything but ethics".
** [[MinionWithAnFInEvil To the degree that he even counts as a 'villain']], Clayface is a thoroughly NiceGuy who seems to be into crime mostly for the excitement and the ability to take on method acting.
** Riddler and Calendar Man are helpful and supportive towards Harley during her time in prison despite tearing the place apart during their escape, [[spoiler:and the Riddler pays back Ivy by sticking Harley in a fake deathtrap so she'll realize the Joker doesn't care about her.]]
** Season 2 introduces Mister Freeze who's shown to dispatch his opponents with ruthless efficiency and is willing to perform medical experiments on humans for the sake of finding a cure for his wife. However, he's also a [[HappilyMarried loving and devoted husband]] to Nora and he's a surprisingly personable host as he [[NoMisterBondIExpectYouToDine treats Harley and her crew to a fancy dinner]] (though not without first freezing them to their chairs to [[ProperlyParanoid prevent them from trying anything]]). It's later revealed that he's also a PoliticallyCorrectVillain who [[spoiler:froze Harley as a means of placating the other members of the Injustice League who wanted her dead]].

* Of the many, many villains who appeared in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'', Ultra-Humanite probably fits this trope best. An EvilGenius who transplanted his incredible intellect into the body of an albino gorilla to [[GeniusBruiser gain the strength to match his smarts]], he's a WickedCultured individual whose crimes are largely attacks on institutions, not human beings. For instance, in the show's ChristmasEpisode, he chooses to attack a publicly-funded museum of modern art, disparaging the sculpture as he blows it up with a laser gun. He's still ''evil'', mind, as he's happy to cause millions of dollars' worth of property damage and eagerly joined Lex Luthor's Legion of Doom, but at the very least he's good-natured about it and doesn't go out of his way to hurt people. In the aforementioned Christmas episode, he attacks the museum on a day it's closed (suggesting that he deliberately wanted to avoid harming civilians) and even declares a truce with the Flash in the spirit of the season, offering to help him deliver a wanted toy to the hero's [[HeartwarmingOrphan orphan friends]] and modifying it so it tells the story of ''The Nutcracker'' in a soothing voice.

* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'': Most of Spider-Man's villains in this series are [[CardCarryingVillain Card-Carrying Villains]] who are happy to show the world just how dastardly they can be. That said, there is the exception of L. Thompson Lincoln, aka Tombstone, aka The Big Man. He's one of the biggest normal humans in the series, with unusual strength, reflexes, a form of albinism, and sharp teeth. That said, he's [[VillainWithGoodPublicity maintained a reputation for being a charitable, honest business tycoon]] that (for a while) has the [[IntrepidReporter reporters]] at the Bugle (minus Peter Parker) fooled. He's polite to Spider-Man, despite clearly disliking him, and even offered to pay him to "look the other way" (something Spidey can ''never'' allow himself to do [[DarkAndTroubledPast again]]). He's also willing to form an EnemyMine (however briefly) with Spidey if it's in his best interest. That said, he's a ruthless kingpin who's willing to kill off his employees if they cross him, and is one of the few [[BadassNormal Badass Normals]] to ''beat up Spider-Man''.

* ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitansGo'': almost all of the recurring villains are this. They regularly hang out with the heroes, and one of them, Jinx is best friends with Raven and Starfire. Rose is also friends with Raven. Although they're most like VitriolicBestBuds, because they beat each other up a lot too.

* ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'':
** Black Manta uses an assassination mission to teach his son a lesson about honesty.
** As is [[spoiler:the robotic duplicate of]] T.O. Morrow. In his debut episode, he takes the defeat of his creation Mister Twister [[GracefulLoser in stride]], and even jokes to his assistant Brom that it was a good idea he convinced Brom not to pilot it himself.
** Icicle Jr. sincerely congratulates Superboy on his engagement, even while trying to kill him.

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': The main villain, [[spoiler:[[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]] juggles with this, FauxAffablyEvil and being a stoic villain, as his true personality is a fun goofball. However, thanks to the Core manipulating him into becoming evil, he's forced to put on a much more detached, aloof persona. His presentation before Marcy, and later Anne, is his more genuine side, although he is still using the girls to get the Calamity Box back in his hands. Sometimes, he instinctively acts courteous to his enemies, such as wishing Anne a merry Christmas as she uses the phrase as a PreMortemOneLiner, whereas other times it's much more clearly skin-deep. The "evil" part was averted before his friends' betrayal, where he was actually disturbed to learn the true extent of what Amphibia's royalty does to keep the empire afloat, and after his HeelFaceTurn in the finale, after which he now strives to restore the nature of Amphibia that was destroyed by him and his ancestors.]]

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Amphibia}}'': [[Characters/AmphibiaKingAndrias King Andrias]] juggles with this, FauxAffablyEvil and being a stoic villain, as his true personality is a fun goofball. However, thanks to the Core manipulating him into becoming evil, he's forced to put on a much more detached, aloof persona. His presentation before Marcy, and later Anne, is his more genuine side, although he is still using the girls to get the Calamity Box back in his hands. Sometimes, he instinctively acts courteous to his enemies, such as wishing Anne a merry Christmas as she uses the phrase as a PreMortemOneLiner, whereas other times it's much more clearly skin-deep. The "evil" part was averted before his friends' betrayal, where he was actually disturbed to learn the true extent of what Amphibia's royalty does to keep the empire afloat, and after his HeelFaceTurn in the finale, after which he now strives to restore the nature of Amphibia that was destroyed by him and his ancestors.

* Several villains from ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' could be called this, but the one that sticks out the most has to be the Wind Demon. Of all the sealed demon sorcerers, he was the most relaxed, well spoken, and generally polite. Where the other demons who were released immediately set to begin their rampages, often while berating Shendu for not getting to them sooner, Shendu wasn't even present for the Wind Demon's release, who instead engaged in small talk with Shendu's thugs, and then joined them for lunch while happily eating his prison slop, and generally seemed to be the most approachable of the group. When reality was rewritten so that the demons ruled the Earth, all he seemed to be doing was lounging on his throne, watching masked wrestlers fight while his champion's fanboy fanned him and watched. While it was implied that the battles were to the death, it seemed remarkably mild given the rest of the world's condition.

** In "Super Zeroes", a monster begins destroying Townsville, and the girls start changing into their new hero identities. By the time they're done, night had fallen and the monster had suddenly lost interest in destroying the city. The next morning, the monster resumes his rampage, and the girls begin their journey to confront him. However, they all run into inconveniences that held up their arrival, and the monster eventually stops his path of destruction again at night (even checking his watch as time passes). Finally, when the girls actually confront him and prove ineffective against him, the monster explains that the reason he was destroying the city and drawing the girls out to fight him is because he was taking up a tradition back at his home island.

*** [[Characters/TheLegendOfKorraZaheer Zaheer]] from Season 3 is very polite and civil, even towards his jailers. When confronted by Korra about why he attempted to kidnap her and his reasons for what he's doing, he is very polite to her and compliments her and her ideology. [[spoiler: He may want complete societal collapse and he was just stalling Korra in the Spirit World to kidnap her, but Zaheer's still a complete gentleman.]] Of course, he still proves to be a very dangerous man, murdering [[spoiler: The Earth Queen, holding the amateur airbenders hostage, and nearly killing Korra by forcing poison into her body. After a few years in jail, however, he ends up being the one who brings Korra [[EnemyMine out of her funk]], since he clearly regrets the role he played in bringing Kuvira to power]].
*** Ghazan of the Red Lotus also comes off as such and has a perfectly pleasant conversation with Bolin, much to Mako's dismay. He also later compliments Bolin on [[spoiler: his mastery of Lavabending]], coming off as genuinely impressed.
---->'''Mako''': Bolin, will you stop making friends with the bad guys?

-->'''Ruffnut''': You gotta love the way he talks. "Hiccup, I'm afraid our time together has come to an end. I must now kill you, if you have no objections."
-->'''Tuffnut''': Yeah, like he's not going to have objections! And then he'll go "All of your dragonriders must also go, with my sincerest apologies."

--> '''Bossk''': "Am I the only one polite enough to take off his boots?"
--> '''Bossk''': "Manners are their own reward, gentlemen!"

** Scorpia, like Catra, is a Force Captain for the Horde, planning invasions and leading various missions and battles against the heroes, and is fully prepared and willing to kill her opponents. She's also incredibly friendly to pretty much everyone see meets, [[CuddleBug loves hugging her comrades]], and just a sweet individual overall. When she [[spoiler: defects from the Horde, her friendly nature quickly wins over the princesses and she proves to be a loyal and valued member of the Alliance]].

%%** [[TheMafia Mob boss]] Don Vittorio [=DiMaggio=].

* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'': Most of Spider-Man's villains in this series are CardCarryingVillains who are happy to show the world just how dastardly they can be. That said, there is the exception of L. Thompson Lincoln, aka Tombstone, aka The Big Man. He's one of the biggest normal humans in the series, with unusual strength, reflexes, a form of albinism, and sharp teeth. That said, he's [[VillainWithGoodPublicity maintained a reputation for being a charitable, honest business tycoon]] that (for a while) has the IntrepidReporter|s at the Bugle (minus Peter Parker) fooled. He's polite to Spider-Man, despite clearly disliking him, and even offered to pay him to "look the other way" (something Spidey can ''never'' allow himself to do [[DarkAndTroubledPast again]]). He's also willing to form an EnemyMine (however briefly) with Spidey if it's in his best interest. That said, he's a ruthless kingpin who's willing to kill off his employees if they cross him, and is one of the few BadassNormal|s to ''beat up Spider-Man''.

* In ''WesternAnimation/TheVentureBrothers'':

* ''WesternAnimation/{{Green Eggs and Ham|2019}}'': "Evil" may be a stretch, but even though this version of [[spoiler:Sam-I-Am]] is a scam artist and an animal smuggler, his friendly attitude towards Guy and everyone is genuine and clearly doesn't want to do what he's doing. He later pulls a HeelFaceTurn, becoming a NiceGuy.

* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' had Grant Walker from the episode [[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE19DeepFreeze Deep Freeze]]", who was a rather friendly and pleasant old man who had spent his life building theme parks and whose followers and henchmen all seemed to get along with. His plan, however, is to gain the same powers as Mr. Freeze (which he does) and freeze first Gotham and ultimately the entire world to drive the entire human race to extinction, save for his tiny select group of followers.

* The cast of ''WesternAnimation/InsideJob2021'' are all employees of an [[EvilInc corporation run by]] TheIlluminati for the sake of [[ConspiracyKitchenSink managing the world's conspiracies]]. Despite the wildly unethical actions they partake in on a daily basis, the main characters are a bunch of fun-loving goofballs that don't take themselves or their jobs too seriously.

* The Brain, the smarter half of ''WesternAnimation/PinkyAndTheBrain''. An erudite, genetically-altered lab mouse who merely wants to do [[CatchPhrase the same thing he does every night]]: try to TakeOverTheWorld! It's eventually revealed that he wants to take over the world in order to [[WellIntentionedExtremist help people by ending war and enacting humanitarian efforts]]. What helps Brain further is that [[EvenEvilHasStandards there are lines he definitely won't cross in his goal of world domination]], even if they guaranteed his victory.

** Iroh appears to be this in the first season. A mellow, easy-going, CoolOldGuy who loves tea, Pai Sho, and just relaxing. He also just happens to work for Zuko, his TroubledButCute AntiVillain nephew, though he's never seen doing anything particularly ''evil'' -- notably the "worst" thing he ever does on-screen is swipe a bottle of perfume from an abbey during a fight. He rarely even helps Zuko make any major progress toward capturing the Avatar and instead devotes himself almost entirely to either treating his exile as a vacation or [[PromotedToParent looking out for his nephew's wellbeing]]. [[spoiler:It turns out that he secretly did a HeelFaceTurn several years ago and since then, he's never supported the Fire Nation in their quest to TakeOverTheWorld. He's also a prominent figure of the Order of the White Lotus and it's implied he's spent the entire time with Zuko trying to nudge the troubled kid toward a HeelFaceTurn as well, something he's ultimately successful at.]]

*** [[spoiler:Varrick]] perfectly represents this trope. He is normally very cheerful and helpful to our heroes, but when it benefits him financially, he won't hesitate to backstab them. [[spoiler:He is arrested in the end for the attempted kidnapping of the president thanks to Bolin and Mako, but he still treats Team Avatar as if they were friends and is flabbergasted when he finds out they're mad at him for what he just finished doing.]]
*** Zaheer from Season 3 is very polite and civil, even towards his jailers. When confronted by Korra about why he attempted to kidnap her and his reasons for what he's doing, he is very polite to her and compliments her and her ideology. [[spoiler: He may want complete societal collapse and he was just stalling Korra in the Spirit World to kidnap her, but Zaheer's still a complete gentleman.]] Of course, he still proves to be a very dangerous man, murdering [[spoiler: The Earth Queen, holding the amateur airbenders hostage, and nearly killing Korra by forcing poison into her body. After a few years in jail, however, he ends up being the one who brings Korra [[EnemyMine out of her funk]], since he clearly regrets the role he played in bringing Kuvira to power]].

* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' had Grant Walker from the episode ''Deep Freeze'', who was a rather friendly and pleasant old man who had spent his life building theme parks and whose followers and henchmen all seemed to get along with. His plan, however, is to gain the same powers as Mr. Freeze (which he does) and freeze first Gotham and ultimately the entire world to drive the entire human race to extinction, save for his tiny select group of followers.

* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'' has Richard Armacost, the Agrichem executive who planned the cerestone heist in the episode "Big Time". He was extremely patient and civil with Charlie when he didn't really have to be and had considerable people skills with which to keep Charlie from losing his temper.

** In "Something Ricked This Way Comes", Summer has a job at TheLittleShopThatWasntThereYesterday run by the Devil himself, who turns out to be a well-spoken, dapper ManOfWealthAndTaste selling goods that come at A Price. When she finds out, to the shock of both Rick ''and'' the man himself, she chooses to continue working there since, she reasons, the other places she can think of make her part of a system she hates and this guy is nice.

** Entrapta is an energetic and curious person who [[ForScience just likes experimenting]]. The only reason she's even working for the Horde is because of her friendship with Catra and Scorpia, who were sympathetic to her when they all erroneously come to the conclusion that the Rebellion abandoned her in the Horde ([[NoOneCouldSurviveThat the good guys actually thought she died]]). The lack of restrictions given for her research is also a bonus.

** Blue Diamond is one of the three ([[spoiler:formerly four]]) rulers of the despotic [[TheEmpire Gem Homeworld]] which brutally enforces an [[FantasticCasteSystem oppressive hierarchy]] and [[PlanetLooters plunders and hollows out planets]] with no regard for any organic life that might be living there, but she is one of the few homeworld gems that views humans as more than just vermin and bonds with [[spoiler:Greg]] over their loss of [[spoiler:their loved ones]], then kidnaps him with with the intent of saving him from a [[WeaponOfMassDestruction superweapon]] that she doesn't know was rendered harmless. Later on when Steven is [[spoiler:put on trial [[SinsOfTheFather for his mother's crimes]] against Homeworld (though they believe him to actually be Rose Quartz shapeshifted)]] she says she wants to inflict a FateWorseThanDeath on [[spoiler:"Rose"]], yet she insists on a fair trial, unlike her cohort [[GeneralRipper Yellow Diamond]] who wants it [[KangarooCourt over quickly]]. [[spoiler:She's also the first of the Diamonds to make a HeelFaceTurn upon realizing how awful she's been to Pink, and makes up for it by helping Steven and Connie return to Earth.]]

* ''WesternAnimation/TheMask'': Dr Neuman in ''Shrink Rap'' was given the Mask of Loki by Stanley who wanted to get rid of it so Dr Neuman agrees to take it with him but while inside his house he gets curious when he saw that the mask sparkes and so puts it up to his face and gets attached to him and he becomes a green faced man who wears a yellow coat, blue trousers, sneakers for shoes and a red and black tie and his hair becomes straight up as well and he is insane and psychotic but however he is very polite as he speaks to others with the attitude of a therapist and has standards as well such as putting anyone he sees into wedgie straitjackets, does not react to anyone with hostilty even though the boy's mom attacks him a lot of times on the head which he puts her in a cage and when Charlie mentions The Mask he does not do anything to him until he mentions Stanley which causes him to lose complete control and do lobotomy but after his appointment alarm went off he decides to do his job instead and puts Charlie in a wedgie straightjacket instead and at the prison a police officer tried to get double clearance on him which he stops her from doing it but after she tells him where his appointment is he decides to spare her and after interviewing Pretorius and finding out about his plan, Masked Dr Neuman agrees with everyone that Pretorius is indeed insane but however he decides to help him and team up with him anyway but he does it by getting the police to release him into his custody instead of blowing a hole in the wall to do it showing himself to be a insane and psychotic but professional and polite man who will do his job who also still retains some morals and cartoonish traits as well just like The Mask and the other benevolent mask personas.
* ''WesternAnimation/TheOwlHouse'':
** [[Characters/TheOwlHouseTheGoldenGuard The Golden Guard]], despite establishing himself as a legitimate threat in his first appearance, acts oddly casual towards Eda and Luz, and after ominously telling them that the Emperor is not a merciful man, flies off with a cheery "Byeeeeee!" Later episodes establish that [[AntiVillain he's actually a genuinely good kid]] who only acts the way he does because of the propaganda he's been fed his entire life, and once he's given the chance to be a normal teenager, he ''instantly'' comes out of his shell. His genuine friendships with Gus and Willow eventually [[spoiler:lead to his HeelFaceTurn after Gus finds him hiding out at Hexside post "Hollow Mind"]].
** Though apparently responsible for the annihilation of most other titans, [[spoiler:[[Characters/TheOwlHouseTheCollector the Collector]]]] is completely unironically friendly with King. Their [[spoiler:destruction of the Boiling Isles]] is for the ''sole'' purpose of playing what they understand to be a game of "Owl House" with not only King, but every single witch and demon on the island. Overall, they don't come off as evil as much as they do as [[GooGooGodlike a child with immense, god-like power]], [[ShapedLikeItself which isn't a far off description of them]].

* Dr. Flug Slyes from ''[[WesternAnimation/VillainousCartoonNetwork Villainous]]'' is meek and anxious, becomes nauseous at the sight of body horror or Demencia's passionate violence, dearly loves 5.0.5 and treats him as his son with nothing but gentleness and warmth, and his only apparent flaw is his inflated ego in regards to his [[MadScientist genius intellect]] -- until you see him torture people without batting an eye, and even seems to enjoy it sometimes, as well as showing a more bloodthirsty side in the "Orientation Videos for Villains," calling for the villains to finish off the heroes when they have the chance, even if they're children like K.O. from ''WesternAnimation/OKKOLetsBeHeroes'' or WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls. His love for anything to do with aeronautics extends to shooting planes out of the sky with a miniaturization ray and keeping them in snowglobes...with the passengers still inside.

* In ''WesternAnimation/XiaolinShowdown'', despite Chase Young being an evil warlord who wants to conquer the world, he remains polite and cordial to the Xiaolin monks, particularly Omi and he always uphold his end of the deal if he loses the showdown. This is something that is even acknowledged by Omi when the latter points out that the good within him is stronger than he thinks.
** Jack Spicer fits this to a greater degree. He’s hellbent on being taken seriously as the greatest supervillain the world, but he can be genuinely cordial to the Monks when he isn’t going after Shen Gong Wu. He’s even shown that he’s very capable of pulling a HeelFaceTurn if he wasn’t so scared of failing and hurting those around him. In fact he and Omi seem to have a very odd Frenemy situation where the young monk is his unintentional MoralityChain. Without Omi though... he fits more into the FauxAffablyEvil category as an old man...
* In ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice2010'', Black Manta uses an assassination mission to teach his son a lesson about honesty.

*** The staff wanted to bring Scorpio back as the BigBad of TheMovie but changed their minds and instead made a new character voiced by the same actor.

* Doctor Doom has always been this, but his version in ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFourTheAnimatedSeries'' is even better, having a polite conversation with the captive Sue Storm and sincerely apologizing for [[DistressedDamsel kidnapping her]]. He even laments destroying New York because he [[HiddenDepths never got to see]] ''Theatre/{{Cats}}''.

* ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'' has [[VampireMonarch Marceline, the Vampire Queen]], who, despite possibly being evil, is so affable that she's one of the most popular characters on the show. She does use her mean side about as much as her nice side, but she's generally mean in a "bullying older sibling" kind of way.
** In one episode [[ChronicHeroSyndrome Finn]] becomes [[Really700YearsOld Marceline's]] slave to help out her old slave, and she makes him do a number of scary things (which all turn out to have good reasons). Such evil things include raising an army of the dead (so that they can go to a party), and slaying a cute living plant (which turns out to be a man-eating monster). They become friends afterwards.

*** Though averted in the Official Adventure Time Encyclopaedia, which is written in-universe by Hunson, and written in real-life by his actor Martin Olsen. Every character profile (except for Marceline) is him talking about how disgusting and beneath him they all are and that they won't be spared when he conquers Ooo.

* Doctor Doom has always been this, but his animated version in ''WesternAnimation/FantasticFour'' cartoon is even better, having a polite conversation with the captive Sue Storm and sincerely apologizing for [[DistressedDamsel kidnapping her]]. He even laments destroying New York because he [[HiddenDepths never got to see Cats]].