Line #9 YMMV/PuppetMaster


1	* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
2	** Andre Toulon in the second movie is very different than the others, the obvious reason being he was initially written as a villain and softened in later films. He lacks the empathy he had for his puppets in 3, where he risked his life to turn the souls of his dead friends into them; notably he thought Carolyn was the reincarnation of his wife Elsa, despite it being he who put Elsa's soul into the Leech Woman puppet in movie 3. However, this does make quite a bit of sense if one subscribes to the theory that he CameBackWrong and his zombified form in movie 2 was a cruel empathy lacking version of his former self. When his soul appears without his decrepit body in movies 4-5, he's a good guy again, freed from the shambling horror of his old flesh. The action comics version even went with the CameBackWrong theory by having Toulon saying his brain was rotted and he was not thinking straight.
3	** Similarly, when Camille is resurrected as the next puppet master at the film's end, she undergoes a FaceHeelTurn and schemes to go and give troubled kids "some therapy." She could have also ComeBackWrong.
4	** Decapitron, Toulon's last puppet, can morph his head to have Toulon's speak to everyone from beyond the grave. Is that Decapitron's power, or is the soul that animates him Toulon's soul?
5	** To what extent can the puppet and the human the soul used to belong to be considered the same person? In some cases they are usually treated as totally different people, and many of them have a complete personality change when they become puppets, though it seems that, at least the Retro Puppets retain their memories, as Doktor Death appears to recognize and understand that April is his great-great granddaughter.
6	* CompleteMonster:
7	** ''Puppet Master vs. Film/DemonicToys'' (2004):
8	*** [[TheHeavy Erica Sharpe]] is a SpoiledBrat who runs her late father's toy company after he sacrificed his soul to bring her LivingToys, which she has [[UngratefulBitch zero gratitude]] for. Secretly a devotee of the demon Bael, Erica tortures innocents to death in her "play room", having a young woman murdered painfully to commune with Bael, and for pleasure. Erica intends on crafting the greatest sacrifice of innocents in history by having millions of toys given to poor families, before making a pact with Bael by sacrificing the last of the Toulon bloodline, allowing Bael to bring the toys to life and slaughter millions of [[WouldHurtAChild children]], all so Erica can sadistically satisfy herself.
9	*** [[DemonLordsAndArchdevils Bael]] is the wicked force behind Erica Pierce and a demon lord who strives to [[FameThroughInfamy make his name known]] as the most nefarious among his kind. Bael feeds on steady HumanSacrifice, Erica keeping him satisfied with the lower-ranking members of her corporation, and agrees to use his powers to empower his demonic toys to butcher millions of [[WouldHurtAChild children]] to see the greatest blood sacrifice the world has ever seen. Along the way, Bael tries to devour the soul of the youngest Toulon, Alex, all in retribution of the first Toulon, Jean Paul Toulon, having escaped his clutches after having promised Bael his soul.
10	** ''The Littlest Reich'' (2018): [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Andre Toulon]] stands in [[AdaptationalVillainy stark contrast]] to his sympathetic original incarnation, as a bigoted sadist who used black magic to animate his puppets for sinister purposes. A criminal in his early years, he moved to Germany during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII to aid the Nazis. Once the tide turned in the Allies' favor, he fled to the United States via a ship, [[TilMurderDoUsPart throwing his wife overboard]] and ordering his puppets to kill everyone else on board. Over the years, he would take Jewish women to his home to perform grisly experiments on them, while using his puppets to slaughter any "undesirables" he came across. In the present day, his puppets--on his command from beyond the grave--gruesomely murder a number of guests in a hotel including Jews, people of color, homosexuals, and a UsefulNotes/{{Romani}} man, before indiscriminately butchering the fleeing guests. When the hero tries to put a stop to the hotel massacre by ramming into his mausoleum, Toulon rises up and shoots the hero's lover in the face.
11	** Action Labs Comics:
12	*** [[GodOfEvil Anapa]] is the son of the demon god Sutekh whose ambitions reach past those of his father. He manipulates the puppets into murdering the descendants of the psychics locking him out of the human world, promising to return them to human form, only to [[ILied go back on his deal]] and return to the world through the body of one of these descendants. After a failed attempt at world domination and attempting to murder the young Anthony Gallagher, he unites the previous {{arc villain}}s and goes on a killing spree, later acquiring the puppets and ordering Neil Gallagher to once again establish himself as their master. At the end, Anapa [[DemonicPossession possesses Anthony]] and uses his magic to spread his influence across the world through bloodshed in his name, destroying several of the puppets as they try to stop him.
13	*** [[ImmortalityImmorality Neil Gallagher]] is shown to be [[AdaptationalVillainy far worse than he was in the first film]]. He begins his quest for immortality by ordering the puppets under his control to massacre a sorority house so he can use their bodies as test subjects. Unsatisfied with the carnage they left in their wake, he heads to the Bodega Bay Inn to acquire more test subjects, killing the hotel owner's parents and at some point raping a woman in the elevator. During his stay at the hotel, he later sends visions to his psychic colleagues of them being killed, then lures them there and fakes his death before having them murdered. Much later, he seeks out his son Anthony, shooting himself and murdering the coroner when he wakes up, then reunites with Anapa and his servants, briefly killing one of them with an axe. When he finally meets up with Anthony, he reveals that he [[AbusiveParents intended him to be the vessel]] for Anapa before handing him over to be [[DemonicPossession possessed]], stabbing Andre Toulon and threatening to kill Anthony's LoveInterest.
14	%%Do not add any unapproved Complete Monster examples without first bringing them through the cleanup thread.
15	* CreepyCute: The designs of all the puppets are often eerie, malformed, or deadly looking. And yet their small size, mannerisms and noises they make them fall into this. It helps that there's a few shots from their perspective.
16	* EnsembleDarkhorse: Torch is awfully popular for how few his appearances are.
17	* FanonDiscontinuity: ''Puppet Master: The Legacy'' and ''Puppet Master vs. Demonic Toys''.
18	* FridgeBrilliance: In the second film there was a flashback that aimed to show how Toulon learned how to animate puppets. In that a magician enters his puppet show and tells him how his methods of animating his puppets are "the old way". However as Retro completely altered the origin and even showed a formula-less original format of magic this scene has found a fridge second life. As it can now be reinterpreted the magician gave Toulon the formula he would use for the rest of the series as a way to update the "old way" he learned back in Retro.
19	* HarsherInHindsight: In the second film Toulon does not seem to care about Leech Woman's death, this takes a darker turn, when in the third film is revealed that Leech Woman had the soul of his wife Elsa.
20	* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: After three films of them just killing people, it's kinda peaceful to see Pinhead and Tunneler playing laser tag with Rick. Also, earlier in the film, Pinhead and Six-Shooter welcome Tunneler back to reanimation after he's the last to wake up. These aren't just living puppets, they're family.
21	* HilariousInHindsight: In his memoir ''Literature/TheDisasterArtist'', Creator/GregSestero claims that one of the people he beat out for the role of Andre Toulon in ''Retro Puppet Master'' was none other than Creator/JamesFranco. Years later, Franco would play the lead role of Creator/TommyWiseau in the film adaptation of said memoir, with Sestero himself played by Franco's brother Creator/DaveFranco.
22	* NarmCharm: A part of why it has so many sequels... the cheesy effects and cheesier acting are just too endearing to hate.
23	* NauseaFuel: Anything involving Leech Woman. The first movie cements how disgusting her power is.
24	* NightmareFuel: See [[NightmareFuel/PuppetMaster here]].
25	* RetroactiveRecognition: ''Retro Puppet Master'' features none other than Creator/GregSestero, best known as [[Film/TheRoom2003 Mark]], as young Andre Toulon.
26	* {{Sequelitis}}: The later sequels in the series are not very well regarded. In particular ''Curse of the Puppet Master'', ''Puppet Master Legacy'', and ''Puppet Master vs Demonic Toys'' are seen as among the worst.
27	* SpecialEffectsFailure: The quality, and look, of the puppets in the movies after ''5'' take a nosedive as the series progresses.
28	** In one scene of ''Retro Puppet Master'', you can hear the servo motors coming from the puppets.
29	* StockFootageFailure: One part of ''Curse of the Puppetmaster'' reuses footage from Puppetmaster 2 where Blade makes a throat cutting gesture, and its noticeable when the backgrounds don't match up.
30	** Really the whole movie can count as a example of this. There are many parts where you can clearly tell that scenes involving the puppets are just blatantly clips from previous movies being used.
31	* TearJerker: Jester's state in the second film is full of this, as the puppet seems as if he can barely move due to his initial life cycle running out. His face is permanently fixed in the "sad" state.
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