Line #22 YMMV/DragonQuestIX


1	* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Patty, who is generally depicted in one of two ways. From the her introduction up to taking her position at the bar in the Quester's Rest, she's vigorous, forceful, and blunt bordering on rude, but the rest of the time she's sultry and prone to lounging, as she appears in some official art and the game's opening movie.
2	* BreatherBoss:
3	** After battling Goresby-Purrvis, some might consider King Godwyn to be this trope.
4	** The rematches with the Triumgorate in the Realm of the Mighty. They have less HP then they did during their first battle with slightly higher attack and agility. And they still have the same abilities they did in the first battle.
5	* CompleteMonster: [[Monster/DragonQuest See here]].
6	* DemonicSpiders: Boa Bishops. Good Almighty, Boa Bishops. These things get two goes per turn, have a hit-everything attack that can destroy mages in one or two turns, an automatic sleep attack, very much avert SquishyWizard ''and'' FragileSpeedster. And they show up in twos and threes, often accompanied by cyber spiders (DemonicSpiders themselves, what with their blinding and slowing moves, high attack, and needing magic to be killed) or freaky tikis (which lower resistance to StatusEffects and also have a blinding move). Oh, and if that wasn't enough, they also chase you instead of going in a straight line, and their snake tentacles/feet give them extra width so you can't even dodge or go around. Even level 99 parties can be quickly killed by these things.
7	* GameBreaker:
8	** Tension makes a comeback from ''VIII'', but is ''optional''. A fully tensioned up character, with buff spells, using a powerful attack can do 70-140 TIMES the damage of a standard swing -- ''7000+ '' instead of ''80''. Endgame bosses have an attack that specifically prevents this tactic, but bosses before the end of the main story do not. ([[NintendoHard The legacy and grotto bosses]] ''require'' you to do most of this stuff to have a fighting chance. And most of them have an attack, Disruptive Wave, specifically designed to counteract the first one.)
9	** In addition to that, you keep skill points between switching jobs, meaning that if you level to 15 then switch jobs a few times, you can take one of the class's 5th, passive skill trees to 100, which then affects all jobs that character uses. Taking ''Courage'' to 100, for example, will make the character strong and tough even if they are a Mage. Taking a weapon's skill to 100 will make them vastly stronger when using that weapon (+ 60 attack power when most weapons at the time are giving around 27) than they "should" be. Later, doing this up to level 38 (which is when jobs give the first 100th skill point) will allow you to do this with multiple skill trees.
10	** Forbearance, the ultimate Paladin skill, makes your Paladin take all incoming damage for the team. So in effect, what you can then do is outfit your paladin with the best gear, dedicate one character to healing, and have the paladin cast Forbearance every turn. While this means your paladin will take 4 hits every time the enemy casts a group-targeting spell, it also means that your healer only has to heal one target. In addition, it means that damage reflection skills (such as the Fan's Reverse Flourish or Shield's Magic Mirror) will reflect breath and magic ''four times''.
11	** Against metal monsters, Have A Ball is right alongside four Falcon Blades for efficiency, as it fires six or seven low damage attacks, randomly distributed among the enemies. Gets even better if you start the battle with someone's tension at fifty, in which case they're dealing ''four'' damage per hit against monsters that have less than twenty HP.
12	* GoddamnedBats:
13	** The Metal Slimes. In order to unlock the Armamentalist vocation, you have to kill two with a Wizard Ward barrier up. Easier said than done, given the fact that Metal Slimes have a tendency to ''run'' before you can even get their health down to the point where a mage can finish them off. (Granted, mages can inflict 1 damage, and you ''can'' give them Metal Slash, or exploit abilities).
14	** Just about every enemy that insists on chasing after you, no matter how weak they are, beginning with the Teeny Sanguinis around Angel Falls. Especially annoying in the Bad Cave where every enemy is one of these, and in the Bowhole where you can expect the Sculpture Vultures from ''VideoGame/DragonQuestVII'' to get in the way of Liquid Metal Slime hunting. They do eventually start running away from you once your level is high enough, but you're normally able to easily decimate them long before that arbitrary point. The worst offenders, however, are the Shivery Shrubberies, which are encountered in the Snowberia Region and its coast, which STILL chase you even if you're a higher level than they are. It's telling that when they reappear in ''VideoGame/DragonQuestX'', they're nerfed a bit so you can move on with your adventure.
15	** This trope is very much at play in the grottoes. While searching for treasure, monsters pop up everywhere. There seems to be a particularly high number of large monsters in cramped hallways. You can use holy water or Vanish to stop the monsters from chasing you, but if you bump into one, you still get into a fight and the holy water wears off. This becomes particularly irritating when you reach very high levels, and the monsters on the upper floors of the grotto are weak. You get knocked into a fight with a monster that is just about worthless and not at all challenging. Not that bumping into the tough monsters lower in the grotto is any better.
16	* GoddamnedBoss: Shogum does on occasion summon King Cureslimes, which if you don't kill them quickly, will cast Omniheal, restoring all HP to Shogum (and the King Cureslime).
17	* GoodBadBugs:
18	** In the Bowhole when you descend to the 4th basement level, open the treasure map screen, close it, ascend back to the third level and move to the upper right corner next to the stairs, it causes the enemy spawn next to the stairs to be fixed and always have a Liquid Metal Slime spawn second as long as you dont open the menu again, depending on what maps you have. This effectively shreds the time it takes to grind, leaving the only problem being killing the LMS before it can run away, since you can do it just by only having the map Collapsus gives you.
19	** In terms of programmed game environments, the damaged Observatory is a completely distinct area from the original Observatory, with a duplicate set of red chests imitating those in the undamaged Observatory. Due to an apparent oversight, the game doesn't check whether the red chests in the undamaged observatory were opened or not and simply offers the second set of red chests to players, allowing their treasures to be "re-collected".
20	* LesYay: Ivor is bitterly envious of the MC getting attention from Erinn (as he clearly CannotSpitItOut), even if the MC is female.
21	** Unlike in ''VIII'', an enemy's [[MarshmallowHell Puff-Puff]] can leave a female party member with a huge grin on her face. Girls can also partake in the "Puff-Puff" at Batsureg, but [[{{Squick}} the less said about that one the better.]]
22	* MagnificentBastard: [[TragicVillain Corvus]] was once the [[FallenAngel Guardian Celestrian]] of Wormwood Creek before being betrayed to the Gittish Empire where he was tortured and left to rot for 300 years. Far from a broken wreck, Corvus [[PowerOfHate utilises his hatred to strengthen him]], eventually resurrecting the Gittish Empire and striking the Almighty himself. Free from his shackles, Corvus warps the Almighty's domain into a realm more fitting for him, resurrecting the Triumgorate to hinder the player while he completes him ambitions. Bested by the hero once, Corvus quickly deduces how they manage to do it before transforming [[OneWingedAngel into his true form]], culminating in a battle with Corvus almost silencing the universe in one massive wave of energy. Seeing the error of his ways when reunited with Serena, Corvus forsakes his goal and ascends peacefully to the stars above.
23	* MoralEventHorizon:
24	** King Godwyn starts off as your typical evil warlord, but when he starts kidnapping Celestrians to drain them dry...
25	** Barbarus cheerfully crosses the line by attempting to destroy Upover while forcing his brother Greygnarl to watch as revenge for his past defeat.
26	** [[spoiler: Yore]] crossed it 300 years ago where he razed the entire kingdom of Brigadoom in a single night, something that he notes he took great pleasure in.
27	* SugarWiki/MostWonderfulSound: When Half-Inch works, it's very satisfying, and so is the sound effect.
28	** The chest-opening sound after a battle meaning an item dropped, especially if it's a grotto boss.
29	* TheScrappy: Ivor. He talks big but doesn't ever do a good job with his Inn, at least on his own. This may have been intentional, as he's TheScrappy to all of the other villagers (except his sister, who admires him.)
30	* {{Shipping}}: In Japan, there's already a blossoming fandom for [[PlayerCharacter Your Hero]]/[[TheMentor Aquila]].
31	* SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer: While ''IX'' doesn't have a Casino, it's very easy to get distracted by playing with the Alchemy Pot, rooting out sidequests, spelunking in the grottoes or simply exploring the world once you've got a boat.
32	* StrawmanHasAPoint: The game tends to depict the Celestrians as {{Smug Super}}s who look down on mortals, but remember that the Celestrians are a ''de facto'' slave race that have been wiping humanity's butt for thousands of years, so their resentment of humanity is pretty well-justified.
33	* {{Squick}}: The Puff-Puff scene. For those who don't know, a young girl offers to give you a Puff-Puff (which is impossible, as she's a young girl) so long as you close your eyes. You do, and the Puff-Puff is...sheep butts. And your character doesn't know this because their eyes are closed.
34	* TearJerker: Many, especially when the AppliedPhlebotinum comes into play, but [[spoiler:Marionette]] and [[spoiler:Mason's Zere Rocks]] stand out.
35	** FridgeHorror, because you realize that [[spoiler:eventually...they're GONNA find out what happened to Marion]].
36	*** Or worse: [[spoiler:They don't. They all go to their own graves wondering what happened to her, why she left them, and if she's happy.]]
37	** The tearjerking starts off waaay before that with the Wight Knight. [[spoiler: Turned into a skeleton and sealed away by a {{Yandere}} witch's curse, he escapes only to find that his kingdom, and his bride-to-be, are long gone. Thankfully, they'll turn into tears of happiness when Princess Simona is able to send him off to be with his beloved again.]]
38	* ThatOneAttack: The final boss's Magic Burst, used when he's low on health. The attack unloads all his MP into a single attack that hits your entire party... oh, and he can remove all your buffs before casting it, then restore his MP to max right after. Have fun if you're under-leveled.
39	** You can actually learn this move yourself, and even spam it. As long as you have enough Elfin Elixirs to do so.
40	** There's also Hatchet Man, which is essentially a critical hit at double power. Luckily, it has a high miss chance.
41	** The difficulty of a grotto boss essentially hinges on whether or not it knows Disruptive Wave. As ContractualBossImmunity means stat-lowering spells rarely work on them, the only way to cause some real damage and survive is to buff yourself (Fource, Channel Anger, Tension, Kabuff...), which Disruptive Wave completely nullifies. Sages can learn it, but it will (at best) remove 20 tension from a boss.
42	* ThatOneBoss: Many, many bosses become a special kind of headache when you run TheHero solo.
43	** Tyrantula will ''cripple'' you if you haven't got the shield skills to fend her off. Her standard strategy is to envenomate you and then tangle you up in webs that make you lose a turn, so you need Holy Impregnable and Back Atcha if you want even a ''chance'' to fend her off.
44	** The Dreadmaster exploits Tension boosting and multiple attacks, meaning that the main character is just about ''stuck'' until they learns Back Atcha to reflect attacks.
45	** Goresby-Purrvis is also criminally obnoxious, given that he can attack twice and has his turn-skipping [[ThatOneAttack upward slice]] to keep you from retaliating, along with the fact that he [[LightningBruiser hits like a truck]] and can easily ''kill'' a character in one turn. To put in perspective just how difficult he is, you fight him again in the final dungeon, where he is the full victim of VillainForgotToLevelGrind... and he's ''still'' tough to beat!
46	** Goreham-Hogg is a challenge whether you face him alone or not for the simple fact that he has a ridiculously high critical hit chance on top of already hitting like a truck. In fact, his party-wide attack with his flail has a critical hit chance ''for each character hit'', so while your hero may not get hit with it, there's still a chance your other party members can. It can be entirely up to luck how difficult the battle against him is.
47	* ThatOneSidequest:
48	** Tag Mode. It's easy enough to find all the players you need in Japan since everyone and their mother plays ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'', but players in other regions will find it much more difficult to find the required 30 different people to max out their Inn upgrades in addition to getting the additional items and treasure maps.
49	** Two sidequests involve killing [[MetalSlime metal slime variants]] in what amounts to "as slowly as possible", where said targets [[LuckBasedMission really love running at the exact worst time]]: The first, which grants the armamentalist vocation, can be made much easier by using Metal Slash with the Falcon Blade (which hits twice). The second, which grants the ultimate hammer technique... can't.
50	*** And in case you thought hunting for Metal Slimes was obnoxious, try 097 Cry Wolf, in which you have to kill five Scarewolves after you hit them with War Cry, but ''before'' the effect runs off - which, if your Martial Artist is faster than the Scarewolf, which they most likely will be, happens in the same turn you used War Cry in. Now consider that War Cry isn't guaranteed to afflict the enemy with the needed status effect, but you still need to be ready to kill them in case it ''does'' work, and let's not even forget the needlessly confusing way in which the mission phrases itself, and you might end up killing at least twice as many Scarewolves as needed without even ''one'' of them counting towards your quest progression.
51	** Really, a good deal of the level 40 quests, all of the ultimate weapon skill quests (save shield, bow, and sword, if you know where to look [[spoiler:in Marco's travel journals, found in the library]]), and anything involving {{Critical Hit}}s. These range from tedious (080 'Atchet Job), to difficult (072 Jump for Joy; 074 Mr. Whippy's Wish), to sadistic (091 Critical Appraisal). Special mention goes to 090 "One Latht Tetht" for being outright ludicrous: [[spoiler:you have to defeat 50 monsters inside the tenth floor of a grotto or deeper, all while naked]].
52	** The gladiators' level 40 quest, '105 - Challengus Maximus', can be very, very annoying and needlessly tedious. Standing around staring at a green dragon's mug until it finally decides to spew poisonous breath instead of whipping you with its tail is bad enough, but waiting for it to do that AND successfully poison your gladiator(s) can be extremely frustrating. As if once isn't enough, you have to go through this thrice; and no, coming into battle already envenomated doesn't count. In the end, the so-called challenge becomes less about your gladiator fighting a dragon while handicapped, and more about him or her actually getting poisoned by the dragon in the first place.
53	** 'A Simple Task' is not as simple as the little girl who gives it to you seems to think, GuideDangIt...
54	*** To clarify, you have to be wearing a specific combination of clothes -- hat, shield, torso, feet, gloves, weapon, and accessory -- without telling you what the combo is. If you've played through to this point, you will have encountered ''at least'' 75 of each of those items. No, there are no hints. Same with another fashion-related quest (thankfully most others tell you what to wear). The combinations make no sense at all. To wit:
55	*** If you have a male hero, make him a priest and equip: Sadistick, Dragon shield, Hermetic hat, Dark robe, Heavy handwear, Blue jeans, Classy clogs, and Utility belt.
56	*** If you have a female hero, equip: Giant's hammer, Boss shield, Minotaur helm, Jaguarment, Gloomy gloves, Classy clogs, and Utility belt.
57	** Quests that require you to constantly beat the same monster over and over until they drop something or a certain cutscene plays are very tedious, such as "33 - Lady Of the Dance" which requires the player to continuously hunt for Goodybags in Iluugazar Plains until one of them activates the cutscene. For one, Goodybags in Iluugazar Plains aren't as common as other monsters and they have access to almost every status spell in the game.
58	* {{Woolseyism}}: Plenty. Puns and AddedAlliterativeAppeal aside (which the game uses ''constantly'' to mixed results), the translation is top notch, with the [[VideoGame/DragonQuestIV few]] [[VideoGame/DragonQuestV accents]] around being fairly low key and -- most importantly -- ''easily readable.''

Context YMMV / DragonQuestIX