| 1 | * BrokenBase: ''Casuistry''. Is it a firm case of GrowingTheBeard, or a classic case of the "Job for a Cowboy effect" with a deathcore band giving up everything fun and enjoyable about them in a misguided bid for critical respectability? |
| 2 | * GrowingTheBeard: The band views ''Casuistry'' as this, though the fanbase is still split years later on whether it really is this, or an ill-conceived attempt to be this from a band that was fine the way they were. |
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