Line #40 Webcomic/ExistentialComics


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2	''[[http://existentialcomics.com/ Existential Comics]]'' is a series of web comics which humorously discusses many philosophical topics and portrays numerous famous philosophers in a comedic manner. It was created by Corey Mohler, a software engineer in Portland, Oregon.
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5	!!This webcomic provides examples of:
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7	* AbusiveParents: David Hume is portrayed as a rather cruel father to his son (Hume didn't actually have any known children, along with never marrying) as part of [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/276 demonstrating his philosophy]].
8	* AnachronismStew: Philosophers from different ages all the way back from antiquity to modern times can appear together in the same comic.
9	* AnarchyIsChaos: Defied. Whenever an anarchist (usually Kropotkin, Bakunin or Goldman) shows up, they're usually presented as rejecting the ideas of causing chaos and violence, and being much more interested in personal liberties, mutual aid [[WeAREStrugglingTogether and picking fights with other anarchists over sectarian differences]].
10	* AntiHumor: One of the first comics involves Creator/FranzKafka going to the DMV and having a very smooth and positive experience.
11	* AppealToForce: Used by Simone Weil [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/307 when discussing history with Friedrich Hegel and Karl Marx]]. For bonus points, Weil's thesis was that force was the driving force of history, making her appeal to force a (somewhat) logically coherent argument.
12	* ArtEvolution: Corey hired a Noah Latz to help him out and the art style took a noticeable turn to the better.
13	* ButHeSoundsHandsome: [[PaperThinDisguise Socramander]] has never heard of this "Socrates" person, but he thinks he [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/76 sounds very wise!]]
14	* ChickMagnet: Creator/AlbertCamus is portrayed as not having to lift a finger for attracting women. They simply come to him regardless, which annoys the heck out of Creator/JeanPaulSartre.
15	* CoolPeopleRebelAgainstAuthority: How Creator/KarlMarx is usually portrayed. Either bare-chested in a circle of German philosophers, the main goal scorer for the group (since he felt it was important for philosophers and thinkers to ''make'' history), and as "[[Film/MadMax Mad Marx]]: The Class Warrior" fighting Hayek in single combat and killing Creator/AynRand. In the comic with Chomsky, Fanon and Foucault, he appears as Gimli the Dwarf to join Fanon's proposed socialist Fellowship of Revolutionaries appointed to overthrow all the old oligarchs of Middle-Earth.
16	* DamnedByFaintPraise:
17	** Discussed in one comic, where John Goldwaith's attempt to make Immanuel Kant seem more interesting is mentioned.
18	-->Now, and maybe this is just me, but if I arrive at the end of my life and a biographer is charged with defending me against accusations of being boring, I should hope that they can come up with something better than "once traveled a small distance to teach philosophy, and had one friend."
19	** One comic calls ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' "the longest, and arguably the best, train fanfic ever written."
20	* DoAndroidsDream: Inverted in [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/470 Freedom and Machines]], where the ''robots'' wonder if the humans have free will. They come to the conclusion they don't.
21	* TheEeyore: Kierkegaard and Schopenhauer both consider life to be inherently awful.
22	* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: It's a comic about Existentialism. Well, it's about philosophy in general, but mostly about {{UsefulNotes/Existentialism}}.
23	* FreudWasRight: Freud certainly thinks so, interpreting everything that happens around him with regard to phalluses and unresolved neuroses.
24	* FunnyBackgroundEvent: [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/162 While Kant is trying to chat up Elizabeth of Bohemia]], we see in order 1) [[RomanticWingman Camus and Hume]] giving him the thumbs-up behind her back when he's pretending to be really interested in what she's saying, 2) Mary Wollstonecraft [[FoodSlap throwing a drink in Hume's face]], and finally, 3) Wollstonecraft and Simone de Beauvoir giving Elizabeth the thumbs-up behind Kant's back when ''she's'' pretending to be really interested in what ''he's'' saying.
25	* GambitPileup: "Existential Hour" has Creator/AlbertCamus only speaking in vague quotes in his interview with Creator/JeanPaulSartre because he knows that Sartre is just going [[ChaoticStupid to do something ridiculous in the name of radical freedom]]. Sartre then reveals that he isn't ''going'' to do radical freedom, but that he already turned off the cameras before the interview. Camus replies that he noticed the cameras were off and he turned them back on.
26	* TheHedonist: {{Subverted}}. Two college students enroll in Epicurus' class, expecting it to be a non-stop party, only to find that Epicurean hedonism is actually about finding joy in simple pleasures and abstaining from bodily desires. They end up enjoying themselves anyway.
27	* HellOfAHeaven: [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/213 Schopenhauer considers the afterlife to be this,]] despite it being a very pleasant FluffyCloudHeaven offering the finest of food and music. He was looking forward to a CessationOfExistence.
28	* HighFantasy: This trope and the associated BlackAndWhiteMorality and AlwaysChaoticEvil are {{Parodied}}[=/=]{{Deconstructed}}. [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/175 Apparently radical leftist intellectuals aren't the best people to invite to]] [[{{Literature/TheLordOfTheRings}} the Council of Elrond]].
29	-->'''Noam Chomsky:''' The idea of a Great Enemy to unite the Men and the Elves, is of course as old as Middle Earth itself. And there will always have to be some enemy, so the people don't look at their own domestic problems and wonder why they need a King to govern at all.
30	* LaResistance: The 10th July 2017 comic discusses and spoofs the Existentialists involved in the French Resistance (Sartre, Beauvoir, Camus), noting that it amounted to three people more or less doing the same thing they did during the wartime but somehow convincing themselves that it's actually resisting Nazism. Of course this might be considered unfair if only when placed in context of the historical Resistance, most of which was far tinier than advertised and militarily not as impactful until D-Day, while Sartre ''was'' imprisoned for several months in a POW camp after the Fall of France.
31	* TheLoonie: Donna Harroway goes halfway between TheLoonie and TheRoleplayer [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/305 in a Dungeons and Dragons game]], when she conceptualizes her player as a cyborg with a +4 atomic laser cannon and argues that freeflow roleplaying unbound by the limitations of the setting makes for more interesting storytelling. The DungeonMaster (Simone de Beauvoir) allows it, on the grounds of atomic lasers and space feminism being cool, outraging Thomas Hobbes and Edmund Burke.
32	* MisaimedFandom: InUniverse: Creator/FriedrichNietzsche, in his more sympathetic appearances, seems pretty dismayed at [[NietzscheWannabe his legacy being misunderstood]].
33	* OnlySaneMan:
34	** In [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/23 this comic]], Immanuel Kant plays the role to the other philosophers, who can't help but try to exert their own views of philosophy onto the game, while Kant clearly just wants to kill some Orcs.
35	** Daniel Dennett is the only New Atheist from ''Sam Harris: Powerful Philosopher'' who occasionally turns up in some other comics and is presented as an actual philosopher (which he is), whose philosophical opinions are given any amount of respect-as opposed to Dawkins, Hitchens, and especially Harris, who are all mocked as incompetents. Indeed, the text accompanying the ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' parody aligns pretty closely with Dennett's view of compatibilism.
36	* ThePhilosopherKing: One comic parodies this, depicting Plato as the ruler of a small city state. He rules the city as if he were participating in one of his famous dialogues, responding to an invasion by trying to get the messenger to define "justice" and "army." Naturally, it ends with him getting stabbed through the gut.
37	* PlatonicCave: [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/222 "Escape from Plato's Cave"]] has the original allegory reimagined as if it were an action movie, with a lot more guns and karate.
38	* ReallyGetsAround: Creator/AlbertCamus picks up multiple women at a time without trying.
39	* TheRoleplayer:
40	** Creator/FriedrichNietzsche goes into a [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/77 Dungeons and Dragons game]] in full costume and asks others to address him as "Drackbar". He says he ''knows'' it's not a {{LARP}} group, but he does it because it's "so badass".
41	** Creator/WilliamShakespeare turns out to be one too, appropriately enough. In [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/45 Dungeons & Dragons & Philosophers IV: The Interdisciplinary Disaster]], he drops monologues and PurpleProse at the drop of a hat as part of his bard roleplay.
42	* RunningGag:
43	** Jean-Paul Sartre [[ChaoticStupid shouting "Radical Freedom!" and doing things completely at random]].
44	** Albert Camus being super-cool and popular with the ladies.
45	** Socrates being [[TheGadfly an obnoxious jerk]] who starts philosophical debates out of nowhere.
46	** Karl Marx flipping tables while saying "Revolution!".
47	** Gottfried Leibniz's obsession with monads – and wigs.
48	** Soren Kiekegaard screaming "Anguish!" at the sky.
49	** David Hume is a [[TabletopGame/{{Battletech}} MechWarrior]].
50	** Schopenhauer complaining about life in an extremely dramatic fashion... and about Hegel.
51	* ScrewYouElves: Foucault, Chomsky and Fanon certainly say so. Chomsky, in a parody of his usual style of criticizing America's foreign policy, cites a poll (conducted [[VerbalTic by Sindar no less]]) showing that, in the eyes of Hobbits, Dwarves, Humans, Trolls and Orcs, the greatest threat to the peace of Middle-Earth was the elves.
52	* SlidingScaleOfFreeWillVsFate: The issue of how much (if any) free will people have, plus what it even means, is discussed in detail with "[[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/70 A Dialogue On Compatibilism]]". Cory later argues that in fact the compatibilist view makes more sense and is ''less'' counter-intuitive, contrary to many claims, using ''Franchise/BackToTheFuture'' (and {{time travel}} in general) [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/278 as an example]].
53	* ShownTheirWork: Many comics go into great detail on philosophical topics, albeit to humorous effect. There are also notes under most that have further information on the topics discussed to help readers that may be lost. Some famous philosophers who appear include {{Creator/Plato}}, {{Creator/Socrates}}, Creator/JeanPaulSartre, Creator/AlbertCamus, Creator/KarlMarx, Creator/FriedrichNietzsche and Creator/FyodorDostoevsky, to list a few of those who have pages here.
54	* TheSlacker: Zeno of Elea mainly uses his famous paradoxes and the belief that motion is an illusion as an excuse to laze around and not do any chores.
55	* StagingAnIntervention: In [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/148 The Young Hegelians]], the other Hegelians confront Max Stirner about his addiction to...shaving.
56	* TheStoic: While the actual Stoic philosophy was more complicated than just the stereotype, some of their views indeed embodied this, as illustrated [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/264 here]].
57	* StraightManAndWiseGuy:
58	** Creator/AlbertCamus and Creator/JeanPaulSartre, where the former is shown as being a cool, laid-back womanizer who effortlessly picks up women, while Sartre is a stuffy intellectual, mostly the {{foil}} to Camus's barbs. This may ''somewhat'' reflect their real-life relationship.
59	** Also Zeno of Citium and Zeno of Elea, depicted as roommates in the mode of ''Theatre/TheOddCouple'', the latter mostly getting on the former's nerves when he used his paradoxes as excuses.
60	** Friedrich Engels and Creator/KarlMarx. Engels is the one trying to focus Marx on writing his philosophy, while Marx smokes cigarettes, drinks brandy and blames the international bourgeoisie whenever he stubs his toe.
61	* TakeAThirdOption: Thomas Hobbes and Creator/JeanJacquesRousseau [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/379 argue over]] whether life was better in a "state of nature", until they go to a guy actually visiting there. He tells them it's more harmonious, though conflict still exists too, disappointing both as it's in between their theories.
62	* TakeThat: Corey can get pretty brutal, even with philosophers that he likes.
63	** The author can fairly be judged as not {{Creator/Socrates}}'s greatest fan, given that every appearance of his is as an annoying gadfly. While even his fans and Socrates himself would probably agree with that to some degree, this isn't shown as really being used in a meaningful or substantive way.
64	** Creator/KarlMarx is either portrayed as a conquering hero or a [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/203 whiny, lazy alcoholic who blames all of his problems, including stubbed toes, on "the Bourgoise."]]
65	** Sartre is also shown frequently using his "radical freedom" concept as an excuse to do inane things, and ignoring reservations others have at his advice.
66	*** This becomes a BrickJoke in [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/227 this comic]], where the event described in the last panel's news ticker is "Jean-Paul Sartre sues popular webcomic for libel: "That's not even what radical freedom is".
67	** In one comic, he calls Sartre's account of "bad faith" in ''Being and Nothingness'' "the worst example in the history of philosophy", citing how poorly it illustrates his actual point, and how it seems like he's criticizing a waiter for properly doing his job while he writes books and drinks wine.
68	** Whenever Ayn Rand is featured in a comic, the afterword explanation can always be summed up as a subtle way of saying "her philosophy is obtuse and her books aren't very good." In a similar vein, he loves to make fun of how incoherent Hegel's philosophy is, with every single appearance and reference to him having something to do with that.
69	** [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/187 This]] comic about Jean-Paul Sartre, Albert Camus and Simone de Beauvoir using their views to attract customers at a bar compares this with the show ''Series/ItsAlwaysSunnyInPhiladelphia'' thus: "instead of a gang of nihilistic, uneducated narcissists it is a gang of nihilistic, educated narcissists."
70	** Corey's personal BerserkButton appears to be people who don't think philosophy is a worthwhile field. There are a number of examples throughout the comics' run, but in particular, see [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/190 this comic.]] Even more, also see TheRant beneath it. It appears Corey is not a fan of New Atheism. [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/1 Some]] [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/2 of]] [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/other/3 his]] unofficial Comics had mocked Sam Harris in particular as well.
71	** It turns out that Existential Comics actually started out as Corey drawing comics for friends of his on a particular subreddit, /r/badphilosophy. These comics actually ''predate'' him doing the webcomic seriously and were the impetus that moved him towards webcomics in the first place.
72	** A less serious example is his view on [[UsefulNotes/NationalFootballLeague the Cleveland Browns]], which to be fair he probably shares with half the team's fanbase.
73	** A number of his comics parody utilitarianism (Jeremy Bentham, who founded the philosophy, specifically) by taking it to an extreme (Bentham's view has been frequently criticized for its unpleasant implications of this kind). For instance, Bentham as a knight is a very... ''different'' [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/475 hero]].
74	* TalkToTheFist: Captain Metaphysics "refutes" Pyrrho's skepticism by punching him, while the hover over text lists a number of ideas this works on. He uses this for every problem which is brought up, and also threatens anyone who disagrees with his "solution" this way.
75	* TautologicalTemplar: Philippa Foot tries to teach a US Army general about handling ethical questions in combat. The guy is utterly convinced that any target must be a terrorist though, so this falls completely flat on him. He says smart bombs only target terrorists from a database, but when she asks whether this means they won't fire assuming they aren't there the general says no, it adds them. The hoverover text drives this home: "We are actually the most ethical army in the world, we only kill bad guys. Who are the bad guys? Our enemies. Why are they bad guys? Because they kill us, the good guys."
76	* TestosteronePoisoning: How Aristotle is portrayed. The author admits that it has very little to do with his philosophy, he just thinks it's funny.
77	* TheThemeParkVersion: Half the premise of the comic is to present real philosophers and their thought, but to exaggerate and oversimplify them for comedy. An explanation is usually provided at the comic's end (unless the gag has been done multiple times before).
78	* TotalitarianUtilitarian: PlayedForLaughs in the "[[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/325 Utilitarian Dictator]]" which depicts Jeremy Bentham (founder of Utilitarianism) as in charge of society discussing how to create the greatest happiness with John Stuart Mill. They decide to simply ban things that make people unhappy, leading to a comically LongList with very little left. At the end though it's {{subverted}} as they decide banning this all would be too difficult, so they go with Mill's idea of maximizing personal liberty instead. [[TakeThat Except for the Cleveland Browns, which they still ban.]]
79	* {{Troll}}:
80	** {{Creator/Socrates}} is depicted as this, even barging in on other people and showering them with questions when they aren't in a conversation with him to start. The author notes this may have helped to get him killed, as his veiled insults toward the judges at his trial were not the best strategy for saving himself (presuming he didn't want to be martyred).
81	** {{Creator/Plato}}, as his student, also gets this depiction to a lesser degree.
82	** Zeno of Elea mostly cites his famous paradoxes as excuses for his misbehavior.
83	* {{Utopia}}: Creator/ThomasMore's ''Literature/{{Utopia}}'' (along with utopias generally) [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/382 is deconstructed]] through pointing out both some appealing and unappealing aspects in his, then noting they always seem to be bland places which appeal most to the author themselves rather than anyone else.
84	* ViolenceReallyIsTheAnswer:
85	** Captain Metaphysics' whole shtick is that he can solve complicated metaphysical problems by punching them really hard. It's surprisingly effective.
86	** Simone Weil's best way to win an argument: pull a gun on the other side. Then steal their wallets and make them say it's philosophy.
87	* WeAreStrugglingTogether: [[http://existentialcomics.com/comic/195 This]] comic [[PlayedForLaughs plays it for laughs]] by having famous socialist revolutionaries squabbling during a TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons session, as an allegory for the real-life schisms of the radical left.
88	* WhoWantsToLiveForever:
89	** [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/353 Here]] it's {{discussed}} by an elf with a mayfly who laments having a very short life, while elves live forever. The elf replies that the mayfly shouldn't be sad in the end, because immortality runs thin. Over time, you do everything and see no point in doing things. His people are burdened with massive boredom, always fearing they will run out of something to do. The mayfly therefore dies comforted by the idea that a short life is better. However, then it's {{subverted}} as we learn this was just a lie--in fact, the elf is still working on new projects, with no sign he actually ran out of things to do with his immortal life (although you might interpret this as the Elflord going back to work after the Mayfly shows him not to take life for granted).
90	** [[https://existentialcomics.com/comic/372 Another comic]], deriving its plot and title from a novel by Simone Beauvoir, explores the same idea with an immortal king trying to change humanity for the better but failing miserably, which causes him severe depression. It's stated he may someday be left alone on Earth, with everyone else dead.
91	* WhyDoYouKeepChangingJobs: Karl Marx, who has amongst others been used as a Jeopardy contestant, a Walmart greeter, a corporate motivational speaker, a post-apocalyptic road warrior, and a financial advisor. To a certain extent this is Main/TruthInTelevision, as Karl Marx did drift around from job to job quite a bit, but it's mostly governed by [[RuleOfFunny whatever makes the joke of the comic work.]]
92	* WomenAreWiser: Simone de Beauvoir is probably the most level-headed recurring character.

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