Line #43 WMG/LupinIII


1	[[WMG: One or more of the characters is a [[WMG/TimeLord Time Lord.]]]]
2	Does this just get added to all the pages by the template or something?
3	** Lupin is a Time Lord, the Fiat is his TARDIS (it's clearly bigger on the inside and obeys no physical laws, just watch ''Anime/CastleOfCagliostro''), and he only changes jackets when he regenerates. There. Obligatory post done.
4	** And the original Lupin was the same person. Lupin the 3rd isn't really the grandson of the first Lupin, he is merely his third incarnation. He regenerates into a younger body, lays low for a while, then shows up claiming to be descended from the previous Lupin. He's much older than he looks, which explains how he's had time to become ''really good'' at being a thief.
5	** Might go some way to explaining why he hasn't aged since the 1960s. Seriously, to make the timeline work, he'd have to be [[Literature/AriaTheScarletAmmo Lupin IV]] by now.
6	*** And the appearances of Literature/ArseneLupin and Lupin II alongside Lupin III in the manga can be explained by it taking place in an alternate universe.
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8	[[WMG: Shin Nohara is Lupin's son]]
9	His real name is Shin Lupin or Lupin the Fart. He has the color scheme of the original Lupin.
10	* He's living with Fujiko Mine's flat-chested sister Mitzi (Fujiko stole her boobies in the womb) and her husband Hiro.
11	[[WMG: Castle of Cagliostro is a sequel to the rest of the Lupin series.]]
12	Throughout Castle of Cagliostro Lupin is a perfect unsullied gentleman thief, a portrayal directly contrasting those sleazy depictions of Lupin the III featured pretty much everywhere else. Any apparent discrepancies in Lupin’s character can easily be attributed to character development.
13	* Like real-world Cuba it only looks like the seventies because of the Principality of Cagliostro’s relative isolation, clearly resulting from Count Cagliostro’s authoritarian administration.
14	* The International Police Criminal Organization’s seventy-ish vehicles, equipment, and uniforms result from Interpol’s limited budget, and are possibly second-hand from other law enforcement agencies.
15	** This doesn’t account for the explicit presence of Soviets and West Germans at the Interpol meeting.
16	*** The Soviet bloc obviously never collapsed in Lupin.
17	*** Both the Soviet Union and West Germany possibly reform in the future.
18	*** Russian and German representatives were merely doing a little historical reenactment at ICPO conference. It’s an international police thing.
19	* Silly Tropers. The film is nothing else but Miyazaki's own continuity to the series. He didn't know moar episodes would follow. So all the films AND episodes that would follow after should be considered "alternate continuity". A wild guess, but an ''educated'' wild guess.
20	** Semi-confirmed, actually, as Miyazaki felt that the movie was about Lupin "in the twilight of his career".
21	*** Who’s the silly Troper now? Your attempt to Joss has been Jossed by word of Miyazaki!
22	[[WMG: Zenigata is actually Lupin's father, Lupin II]]
23	* Why else would Lupin call Zenigata Pops? Zenigata is obviously ashamed of his father and disappointed in his son.
24	** In the original Japanese, it's "ossan", a somewhat informal term that's more used to refer to maybe an uncle and/or friend of the family, not really something you'd call your own dad. Whether or not that josses the WMG is up to the reader.
25	*** He's not saying "ossan," he's saying "tott-san." There's a discussion of this topic [[https://www.lupinencyclopedia.com/forums/index.php?topic=143.0 here]]
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27	[[WMG: The Arsene Lupin seen in WesternAnimation/NightHood is actually Arsene Lupin II. Son of the First and father of Lupin III]]
28	The timing is just barely about right and his characterization is much colder and and business-like than the original (possibly from having to live and/or serve during the First World War), and he bears a striking physical resemblence to the anime character, the only major differences between them being Night Hood's lighter hair color and blue eyes.
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30	[[WMG: There is no single Lupin III.]]
31	Drawn from the often-confusing ''Green vs. Red'', this theory states that Lupin is not a single individual, but an identity adapted by successive people inspired by the outlaw. There may have originally been a Lupin III who was the biological descendant of the original Arsene Lupin, but as time wore on, different people took up the mantle of the master thief, and the best of these imitators became recognized as "Lupin III". This explains how Lupin does not seem to age over the years, although it would not explain why his companions and Zenigata have not shown signs of aging. ''Green vs. Red'' also seems to suggest that the original Lupin III is still alive, guiding his successors from the shadows.
32	* The original concept of Fujiko was just "the girl of the week is named Fujiko", and clearly, Lupin just names the Biggest-breasted woman he sees as Fujiko. When he has the skills to provide them with an entirely new identity as this woman, why would they object?
33	* Still doesn't explain the other three.
34	* Jigen and Goemon are the same as Lupin: they follow the current Lupin while training a successor, and when the moment is right the successor quietly replaces the original one. Zenigata, instead, has his brain transplanted in a new cloned body every time the previous one fails due too much abuse and his poor diet.
35	** Goemon is canonically Goemon Ishikawa XIII, descendant of a legendary real world outlaw. After thirteen generations, I could easily see him having a lot of other relatives who would like to carry on the family name and tradition, taking Goemon's place when he dies or retires. As for Jigen, note that his name is a bit odd, his background is shady, and he usually keeps the upper half of his face covered; clearly, he could have successors as well.
36	* One way to resolve the continuity issues arising from portraying The Castle of Cagliostro as being set "in the twilight of Lupin's career" would be viewing that caper as being one of the last ones the original Lupin III performed, before a successor replaced him.
37	[[WMG: [[Literature/AriaTheScarletAmmo Riko Mine]] is the daughter of Lupin III with Fujiko Mine.]]
38	Because it's too damn obvious a crossover NOT to be true.
39	[[WMG: The imitators of Lupin in Green Vs Red represent every version of Lupin to ever have existed.]]
40	The Rupan references are from a character calling himself Rupan the Third. Afro and pink jacket are because that one represents the third series. The main character represents every new writer and Cosplayer who try to make a Lupin. The crazy helicopter pilot Lupin is that 12-year-old kid who is {{LARP}}ing Lupin "because he blows stuff up and steals 'cause he can!", which is to say the guy who sees CrazyIsCool and thinks it means [[InsaneEqualsViolent Crazy]] + Awesome.
41	[[WMG: Fujiko is the evil sister of [[Manga/CaseClosed Yukiko Kudo]].]]
42	Here it goes. Although they look different, they got the same hair color and length. It would appear that the latter was once a thief like the former as they go on crime sprees together. This is where she gets the disguise idea. The thing is Yukiko is a good person, despite everything she had done. Later on, she finally got fed up with Fujiko's backstabbing ways that she left her after a heist. Yukiko becoming an actress and being part of the Kudo family is meant to be her redemption. Makes sense, huh? Imagine if those two meet again, [[CainAndAbel it's gonna be one hell of a fight between them]].
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44	[[WMG: Lupin watches too much cartoons.]]
45	Kinda explain of disobeying the laws of physics, huh? Gotta thank the likes of ''WesternAnimation/BugsBunny'' and ''WesternAnimation/ThePinkPanther''.
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47	[[WMG: The four fan-suggested episodes (100-103) predicted four major {{Fanfiction}} types/characters.]]
48	Which makes sense when you think about it. Episode 100 gives us shades of the BoysLoveGenre in the form of Nai Baba, the sheik with the hots for Zenigata. Episode 101 basically gave us a {{Crossover}} with ''Manga/TheRoseOfVersailles''. Episode 102 has Brilla, who could be classified as a MarySue; she's impossibly cool and clever, gets taken on a date with Lupin, and Lupin ends up helping her in the end instead of robbing her. And Episode 103 makes Goemon inexplicably {{Bishonen}}, complete with wings and sparkles.
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50	[[WMG: Lupin robs the Masters Golf Tournament every few years]]
51	It's where he gets his green jackets.
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53	[[WMG: [[Franchise/SailorMoon Minako Aino]] descends both by Lupin and Zenigata]]
54	Minako's mother is actually Zenigata's daughter (he mentioned having one, and that his wife left taking the daughter with her), and Lupin decided to screw up with Zenigata's mind by seducing his daughter. The condom broke, and nine months later a girl as crazy as the father and strong and obsession-prone as the grandfather was born.
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56	[[WMG: The new Blue Jacket series will have a ShoutOut to ''Anime/TheCastleOfCagliostro'']]
57	The new series is set in Italy and San Marino, and Cagliostro has an Italian name, Italian cuisine, middle-ages Italian architecture, Italian ''everything'' but some characters' names (that sound French) and side of the road on which you drive, so Cagliostro could be at the Italian-French border.
58	* {{Jossed}}. But the story of the ''actual'' Cagliostro had a small role in an episode and a major one in the special expanding on that episode.
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60	[[WMG: The in-universe reason for the Main/ToneShift in ''Anime/LupinIIITheWomanCalledFujikoMine'' is that the whole continuity is a result of Mamo messing with the timeline]]
61	We know that [[spoiler: Mamo is the Main/BigBad behind ''Anime/GravestoneOfDaisukeJigen'']] and presumably the other movies in the continuity as well . The reason why this continuity is much darker is that it's the result of Mamo going back through time and creating an alternative timeline, for his own reasons.

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