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1[[WMG: The Old Man is the Nameless One]]
2The text below comes from the [[http://adwr.wikia.com/wiki/Old_Man Wikia of the module]].
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4True identity of the old man is unknown, thou some suggest that there are clues that point out that he is the Nameless One. Those clues include:
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6* Castle cleric's shadow suggests that some powerful influence lurking on the other side of the the breach turns all killed on Isle of Prisoners into undead, while a very similar phenomena which occurs in the Temple of Hyath, was accredited to the influence of the Nameless One.
7* The fact that Hyath serves or is somehow connected to the the Old man, further implies that the culprit of both stories is a same being.
8* Jachan's Diary mentiones that the Cult Site served previously as a temple for a "dark entity, whose name must not be called...nameless entity about death and undeath". The fact that the temple and the Isle of Prisoners were connected by a permanent portal and that the phenomena is about "death and undeath", further suggests connection between this "Nameless" entity and the "powerful influence lurking on the other side of the the breach".
9* A book the Princess remembers (if she passes Lore check) when seeing a tombstones in the Planes, in which it was written about the realm of the Nameless One filled with fields of tombstones.
10* The name of the journal entry describing the deal with the old man is a deal with the Devil.
11* Old Man has powers to ressurect dead people, even without their bodies, and to kill at whim, in resonance with description of the nameless entity mentioned in the Jachan's Diary as being about "death and undeath".
12* It may also be worth noting that he is always referred to as simply "Old Man", leaving him unnamed and thus being another allusion to him being the Nameless One.
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14There are however other opinions stating following counterpoints:
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16* There is no evidence that the Old Man is responsible for the undead at all, it might just be the consequence of that kind of planar rift. Also there are no demons in the Temple of Hyath except Hyath if he is released from his captivity but there are in the Isle of Prisoners.
17* The fact Hyath serves the Old Man could just prove that the Old Man is a more powerful Demon to Hyath. Also the way he infects Princess with Demon Pox by raping her suggests he is a sexual demon like Hyath and not the lord of the undead. Also robes are worn by male cultists of both Hyath and Balphagor but they are worn by the Old Man also. There are also strong paralells between the cults of both (robed men and naked women).
18* If Hyath serves this Nameless One, who rules over death and undeath then how does it fit with him being a 'god' of the 'sexual exploitation of women' which is indicated by the lore related to his temple in the Summer Islands?
19* With the exception of the Drow, the inhabitants of the ''Dances with Rogues'' area DO NOT refer to their gods by name but by Title. The Nameless One could well be a local version of the The Forgotten One; which could make him Jergal. Jergal was the original ruler of the Fugue Plane while the Princess enters a portal to a layer of the Abyss over which the Old Man has power
20* Besides journal entry nowhere else the Old Man is reffered to as a devil.
21* Given that the people "slain at whim" by the Old Man were slain by his demons while wandering the plane (as the Fugue Plane is raided by demons from the abyss who sometimes even attack the city of judgement), there is no indication that he does not possess their bodies. And he cannot kill anyone on a whim, only in his own realm is this the case.

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