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1	[[WMG: Lets start this off, its all [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade's]] fault.]]
2	* Jossed, [[spoiler: but he was part of the blame simply because he is part of the Heisei Riders, automatically making him at fault as well but still jossed.]]
3
4	[[WMG: And you can be pretty sure [[Series/KamenRider Shocker]] (more like [[Main/LegionOfDoom Dai-Shocker]]) has a role in this too.]]
5	* Jossed. Apparently, it's the [[KamenRiderZX Badan Empire]].
6
7	[[WMG: Yuta Mochizuki will return as [[Film/KamenRiderJ Kouji Segawa (Kamen Rider J)]] (and maybe [[Series/KyoryuSentaiZyuranger Geki]] as well).]]
8	He's already returning as Geki in [[Film/ZyudenSentaiKyoryugerVsGobustersTheGreatDinosaurBattleFarewellOurEternalFriends Kyoryuger vs. Go-Busters]], now here's the oppurtunity to reprise his Rider role. Also since 2014 is 20 years since Kamen Rider J was released, it would fit in with the anniversary homages in this movie (5th - Decade/W, 10th - 555, 20th - J, 30th - ZX, 40th - X).
9	* Jossed.
10
11	[[WMG: Appearing Sentai teams]]
12	* [[Series/ResshaSentaiTokkyuger Tokkyuger]]
13	** The [[Series/TokumeiSentaiGobusters other]] [[Series/ZyudenSentaiKyoryuger two]] Sentai teams that were recently starting were in the first two movies, so why not keep up the tradition?
14	*** Confirmed!
15	* [[Series/ZyudenSentaiKyoryuger Kyoryuger]]
16	** It will have not been that long since it has ended, and the [[Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger other]] [[Series/TokumeiSentaiGobusters two]] Sentai teams that had just ended were in the first two movies.
17	*** Confirmed! However, Daigo's apparently the only one who's going to show up.
18	* [[Series/TokumeiSentaiGobusters Go-Busters]]
19	** It will have been only a few months since ''Kyoryuger vs. Go-Busters'', and as before, both [[Series/TensouSentaiGoseiger Goseiger]] and [[Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger Gokaiger]] appeared to some extent in ''Super Hero Taisen'' and ''Super Hero Taisen Z'' respectively.
20	*** Jossed.
21	* [[Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger Gokaiger]]
22	** This movie already has a lot of focus on the history of Kamen Rider, so why not bring in the Sentai most directly connected to the history of their franchise?
23	*** Jossed.
24	* [[Series/TokusouSentaiDekaranger Dekaranger]]
25	** [[Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail To arrest all the Riders for public disturbance before the movie can reach either ending.]]
26	*** Jossed.
27	* [[Series/BakuryuuSentaiAbaranger Abaranger]]
28	** We know that [[spoiler:Riders from ''[[Series/KamenRider555 Kamen Rider 555]]'', Abaranger's Super Hero Time partner, are going to appear,]] and the Abarangers will have recently appeared in ''Kyoryuger vs. Go-Busters''.
29	*** Jossed.
30
31	[[WMG: The [[Series/KamenRiderFaiz Orphenoch King]] will return]]
32	[[spoiler:Since both Faiz and Kaixa are returning as themselves and the Arch Orphnoch wasn't killed at the end of ''555'' and put into a ConvenientComa]], perhaps it's time to follow up on this plot point.
33	* If we're counting flashbacks then yes.
34
35	[[WMG: The [[Franchise/MetalHeroes Space Sheriffs]] and {{Kikaider}} will make a cameo.]]
36	* Jossed - maybe they're waiting for a new Zubat to create a new version of the rare hero lineup from ''OOO - Den-O - All Riders: Let's Go Kamen Rider''.
37
38	[[WMG: Narutaki will finally be dealt with.]]
39	Decade posed the question of who he was in ''Super Hero Taisen'', and the latest issue of Figure-Oh suggests that Narutaki will indeed appear.
40	* Appears, yes. Dealt with, no.
41	** [[spoiler: Narutaki was/is seen slightly on good terms with Decade and claimed that he is an ally of the Kamen Riders which can be assumed that he was dealt with offscreen which then leads to Narutaki going through a sort of HeelFaceTurn.]]
42
43	[[WMG: Rider team-ups/fights.]]
44	* Ichigo vs. Kuuga (first Riders, first shows)
45	* Nigo vs. Agito (second Riders)
46	* V3 vs. Agito (second shows)
47	* Black RX vs. Ryuki (American adaptations)
48	* Riderman vs. Fourze (Arm attachments)
49	* Amazon vs. Hibiki (sixth, unorthodox, Riders)
50	* Stronger vs. Kabuto (seventh Riders, other parallels)
51	* Amazon / Shin vs. Faiz / Den-O / Kiva (monster Riders)
52	** Close - Amazon and Shin vs. Den-O and Hibiki
53	* ZX vs. Decade (tenth Riders, other parallels)
54	** Confirmed!
55	* Double Riders / Skyrider vs. Double (Wind-power Riders)
56	* V3 vs. OOO ('3' motif)
57	* J vs. Gaim (fifteenth Riders)
58	** We have our first confirmation: Ichigo vs Gaim.
59	** We have a few more: X vs Faiz (celebrating anniversaries), Agito vs. Super-1 and Joker vs Black AND Black RX
60	*** Other battles confirmed: Skyrider vs. Fourze (flying Riders), Stronger vs. Kabuto (stag beetle motifs) and Den-O and Hibiki vs. Amazon and Shin (monsters)
61
62	[[WMG: As with the previous Super Hero Taisens, there will be a Sentai/Rider Robo mash-up. [=ToQ-Oh=] wielding Gaim Arms?]]
63	* The closest we get is [=ToQ-Oh=] with [[KamenRiderDenO the DenLiner]] since they conveniently have an actual train.
64
65	[[WMG: A new Lockseed(s) (Showa Riders / More Heisei Riders / Sentai) will appear.]]
66	Confirmed! The mysterious Kamen Rider Fifteen is confirmed to have not only the Lockseeds for Wizard and Fourze, but also new ones for Gaim and Decade! And we still don't know if he has more...
67
68	[[WMG: Not only will Great Leader be the BigBad but he will have a new form as well.]]
69	* More likely due to the presence of the Badan Empire. In the ''[[Series/KamenRiderZX ZX]]'' TV special, the Great Leader appeared as the Generalissimo of Badan, a giant ghostly skull. Hell, we could even see [[Manga/KamenRiderSpirits Susanoo]].
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71	[[WMG: The one behind it all is Ouren Pierre Alfonso.]]
72	He has pitted the Heisei and Showa Riders against each other so he can join the Rider War and fight not just the other Armored Riders but all the past Riders as well, he will then challenge the Super Sentai teams before proceeding to defeat Dai-Shocker thus ensuring that Kamen Rider Bravo is given the recognition he deserves as the Uchuu Saidai no Superhero (Greatest Superhero in the Universe). "C'est bon! Merci, merci!"
73	* Jossed, not even a mention. Sad, really.
74
75	[[WMG: There will be more returning Actors]]
76	However, since filming is apparently done, they'll be voice only. Likely returns include Nigo, V3, Black/RX, Agito, Blade Riders, and the Taros.
77	* Well Momotaros is definitely in there.
78
79	[[WMG: There will be more secondary riders]]
80	Kaito and Kusaka are confirmed for the time being, however neither of them seem to be around for the climatic scene, so perhaps around that time we'll see a few only the 'main' secondary riders fighting elsewhere.
81	* Jossed.
82
83	[[WMG: Gaim will get a movie-exclusive form.]]
84	That this movie has a [[Main/UnexpectedCharacter Kamen Rider of its own]] (something which didn't happen in the previous two Super Hero Taisens) is a surprise so it could well be.
85	* Confirmed with [[Series/KamenRider Ichigo]] Arms.
86
87	[[WMG: The Generalissimo of Badan (AKA Great Leader) will appear.]]
88	* Confirmed.
89
90	[[WMG: Kamen Rider Cyclone will appear.]]
91	The preview shows Kamen Rider Joker fighting Black and Black RX, so Philip can change into Cyclone to even the score.
92	* Sadly jossed - Phillip doesn't even get a mention.
93
94	[[WMG: Team-ups for the finishing blow]]
95	Gaim and Ichigo against Fifteen, ZX and Decade against Ambassador Darkness/Southern Cross, Faiz and X against..Kaiza? Assuming we have another robot fight it'll be [=ToQoh=] using Gaim arms
96	* If a recent toy ad is any indication, [=ToQ-Oh=] will ''not'' be combining with Gaim. It'll be using ''Den-Liner''.
97	** The Gaim and Ichigo one is almost spot on - Gaim obtains the brand new "Ichigo Arms", giving him Kamen Rider Ichigo's abilities.
98
99	[[WMG: KamenRiderG will make a cameo]]
100	Because he's a Rider too!
101	* Jossed. Besides, he's only supposed to be, at best, a parody of Kamen Rider.
102
103	[[WMG: The Kyoryugers and Tokkyugers will each take a Kamen Rider era team's side.]]
104	* Jossed. First of all, the only Kyoryuger to appear is Daigo. Second, he and the Tokkyugers don't even show up until after the Showa and Heisei Riders have joined forces and are battling against the Badan Empire. Third and most important of all, their only appear as a means of helping the Kamen Riders defeat the Badan leader in its giant tyrannosaurus form with their TransformingMecha. After that, they disappear for the remainder of the movie.
105
106	[[WMG: If they appear, the Gokaigers will change into the last 6 Heisei Kamen Riders.]]
107	I'm guessing Red as Decade, Blue as Gaim, Yellow as Wizard, Green as Double, Pink as Fourze, and Silver as OOO.
108	* Jossed.
109	** Jossed [[spoiler: and to be precise, the Gokaigers didn't appear at all.]]
110
111	[[WMG: The Ambassador Darkness is ZX in disguise.]]
112	* Confirmed.
113
114	[[WMG: Shotaro has a reason for using Joker rather then W]]
115	Specifically, it's to try and scupper Badan's plans. It seems Badan's aim is to get all the Rider's defeated and take their Lock Seeds, So Shotaro, in case he's defeated, is using Joker so they can't get W's Lock Seed.
116	* Jossed. [[spoiler:Joker is still turned into the Double Lockseed when he and Black take each other out in the final battle.]]
117
118	[[WMG: The last surviving Riders]]
119	The first few minutes have been leaked which, in a flashforward, show Kabuto defeating Stronger, Skyrider defeating Kabuto, Fourze (in Rocket States) defeating Skyrider, J (in Jumbo Formation) defeating Fourze, and then Kota henshins into Gaim and fights J using Suika arms. Assuming the logical progression , Gaim will presumably defeat J, so that's 6 Riders out and turned into Lock Seeds. We also know that Joker and Baron will fight Black and RX, and regardless of what happens to Baron, Ryugen and Zangetsu, Joker probably defeats RX. I reckon, either before or after this climatic scene leading to Gaim fighting J, Super-1, Shin, ZO, Kuuga, Agito, Ryuki, Blade, Hibiki and Den-O will have been defeated. Then, as we've seen some evidence of picture wise, Rider 1, 2, V3, Riderman, X, Amazon and Black will go up against, Gaim, Wizard, OOO, Joker, Decade, Kiva and Faiz. During this battle Fifteen will show up and defeat most of the Riders, leaving Gaim the last Rider
120	Except for the fact that ZX will not be getting turned into a Lock Seed, and is probably doing something in Badan's base leading to the Lock Seeding being undone, but not before Badan successfully creates the Heisei Rider Lock Seed using the ones thay have.
121	* Mostly confirmed [[spoiler:up to the final battle. But instead of Fifteen, the surviving seven Showa and Heisei Riders take each other down leaving Gaim the last standing. Fifteen doesn't pop up until Ambassador Darkness reveals himself to be Ryo Murasame (ZX) in disguise.]]
122
123	[[WMG:Kaixa is actually BackForTheDead]]
124	The teasers have Faize with a burning blue thingy that could be an Orphenoch death.
125	* Jossed. [[spoiler: He does appear, but it's as a ghost]].
126
127	[[WMG:Now that the movie has been released, [=WMGs=] for the inevitable NEXT Super Hero Taisen movie]]
128	* SerialEscalation being in full effect, the next film will be a CrisisCrossover not just between KamenRider, SuperSentai, and MetalHeroes, but also an unexpected return of MadanSenkiRyukendo.
129	** The SuperSentai involvement will be due to the return of either [[Series/DenjiSentaiMegaranger Jaden Sentai Nejiranger]] or [[Series/TokumeiSentaiGoBusters Dark Buster]], with either villain(s) hijacking the Shadow Line for unknown purposes, forcing the [[Series/ResshaSentaiTokkyuger ToQgers]] to put a stop to them, with cameos from past sentai teams including (but not limited to) [[Series/ZyudenSentaiKyoryuger the Kyoryugers]] (to justify another appearance of the Kyoryu Ressha), [[Series/TokumeiSentaiGoBusters the Go-Busters]] (in order to have an excuse to make a new Ressha), or [[Series/KaizokuSentaiGokaiger the Gokaigers]] (possibly even using the [[Series/RescueSentaiGoGoFive GoGoFive]] Great Power, so we could see the original Train Mecha of SuperSentai fighting alongside it's successor.
130	** The KamenRider involvement will be due to [[Film/KamenRiderDenOAndKivaClimaxDeka Kamen Rider Nega Den-O]] returning, gaining his own Climax Form (utilizing the powers of the [[Film/KamenRiderDenOImBorn other]] [[Film/SarabaKamenRiderDenOFinalCountdown Den-O]] [[Film/ChoKamenRiderDenOAndDecadeNeoGenerationsTheOnigishimaWarship movie]] [[Film/KamenRiderKamenRiderKamenRiderTheMovieChoDenOTrilogy Riders]]), and attacking [[Series/KamenRiderGaim Gaim, Baron, and Zangetsu]], forcing them to team up and eventually receive help from [[Series/KamenRiderDenO Den-O himself (or New Den-O)]], along with possible cameos from the rest of the [[Series/KamenRiderWizard 2nd]] [[Series/KamenRiderFourze Phase]] [[Series/KamenRiderOOO Heisei]] [[Series/KamenRiderDouble Riders]]...[[Main/MyFriendsAndZoidberg and]] [[Series/KamenRiderDecade Decade]].
131	** MetalHeroes involvement to be discussed later
132	** The involvement of [[Series/MadanSenkiRyukendo Ryukendo]] will be due to yet another incarnation of Shocker awakening a previously unheard of Jamanga general and executing a plan to reopen the Power Spot and harvest Minus Energy from all over the world, forcing the Madan Warriors out of their retirement from superhero duty.
133	** The conclusion of this movie may involve:
134	*** The returning Gokaigers gaining new keys, allowing them to transform into the Madan Warriors, [[Series/{{Kikaider}} the rebooted Kikaider]] (as a nod to his appearance in Gaim), and Inazuman (as a nod to his appearance in [[Film/KamenRiderXKamenRiderWizardAndFourzeMovieWarUltimatum Movie War Ultimatum]])
135	*** Gaim, Baron, and Zangetsu obtaining new Lock Seeds which let them access [[Franchise/SuperSentai Super Sentai Arms]], [[Franchise/MetalHeroes Metal Hero Arms]], and [[Main/MadanSenkiRyukendo Madan Warrior Arms]], respectively.
136	*** The Madan Warriors gaining new keys and becoming [[Franchise/SuperSentai Super Sentai Ryukendo]], [[Franchise/KamenRider Kamen Rider Ryuguno]], and [[Franchise/MetalHeroes Metal Hero Ryujino]], respectively.
137	** Jossed, at least on Ryukendo, due to it being a product of Takara Tomy, and Bandai won't allow them to come on over to the movie.
138	* Alternatively, it could be a collaboration of Sentai, Riders, and ''[[Franchise/UltraSeries Ultraman]]'' (the three franchises have already teamed up in special events). In particular, if they didn't feel like it would be too much of a retread of the first Taisen, it could have the Gokaigers, Decade, and Series/UltramanGinga (S) teaming up at once!
139	** Very likely jossed for Ultraman as well, since the Ultra Series' a product of another company, Tsuburaya Productions.
140	* A triple hero movie consisting of the latest entires of Kamen Rider, {{Franchise/Digimon}} (if it does have a series by then) and Anime/PrettyCure. In 3D.
141	* A Sentai consisting of the current red and the other four being hero/heroine from other series like Kamen Rider.
142	** All of the above are jossed - what ended up happening was that they used the idea of Shocker creating a Kamen Rider 3 for a rider to fight the Double Riders.
143
144	[[WMG: There will be a ''Super Sentai Taisen'' film.]]
145	Since Toei has now done a Super Hero Taisen movie dedicated almost entirely to Kamen Rider, it would only seem fair that they do the same thing for Super Sentai, their other CashCowFranchise.
146	* Still jossed for now until they decided to do it. The closest we have for such a film was in Gokaiger Goseiger Super Sentai 199 Hero Great Battle though no other heroes like Kamen Riders and Metal Heroes appeared in it.

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