Line #25 Trivia/Alien3


1	* {{Blooper}}: In the Assembly Cut only, where Murphy still calls out Spike’s name when he finds the Xenomorph despite the dog being nonexistent in that version.
2	* BTeamSequel:
3	** At one point, Creator/RidleyScott was approached to direct, but he turned it down due to his commitment to ''Film/FourteenNinetyTwoConquestOfParadise''. He had ideas of exploring the origins of the xenomorphs, which would later manifest in ''{{Film/Prometheus}}''.
4	** Creator/StanWinston was asked to work on this film, but was unavailable. Instead, he recommended Tom Woodruff Jr. and Alec Gillis, two former workers of his studio who had just started their own company, Amalgamated Dynamics.
5	** Creator/HRGiger, the original designer for the first Xenomorph, was shafted in favour of Tom Woodruff and Alec Gillis' designs. This didn't stop Giger from faxing his designs to his client, Creator/DavidFincher, after he withdrew from the project.
6	** By the time pre-production started, Creator/JamesCameron was busy working on ''Film/TheAbyss''.
7	** Averted with the editor being Terry Rawlins, who had edited ''{{Film/Alien}}''.
8	* CashCowFranchise: Fox's attempt to keep ''Alien'' as this led to all the difficulties noted in ExecutiveMeddling and TroubledProduction, as the "Wreckage and Rage" documentary notes, they "didn't set out to make a movie, they set out to make a release date." The film was announced, the release date selected and locked in before Fox had a cast, director, script, writer, or even a ''concept'' (though the teaser, with its tagline "On Earth, ''everyone'' can hear you scream" indicates at least one idea had popped up), meaning that every subsequent decision was made with the release date hanging over it like the Sword of Damocles. The end result was a film that was massively over budget, barely on-schedule, and so stressful for everyone involved ''no one'' has pleasant memories of the production (which probably only contributed to the film's nihilistic bleakness).
9	* CompletelyDifferentTitle: The Hungarian title translates as ''Alien: Final Solution: Death''.
10	* CreatorBacklash:
11	** Creator/DavidFincher had such a horrible, ExecutiveMeddling-filled experience working on ''Alien³'' that he doesn't list it on his resume, has rejected several offers to speak on-record for documentaries, and to this day keeps his public comments on the matter few and far between. Some of them include him likening his time in the project to being "sodomized ritualistically for two years", as well as the quote "No one hated it more than me. To this day, no one hates it more than me." Charles de Lauzirika, who produced the ''Alien Quadrilogy'' box set, [[https://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/charles-de-lauzirika-2/2/ once told that the one time Fincher contacted him]], "[Fincher] was so pained to even mention the title ''Alien 3''" that he felt better to not push too hard on getting the director. This led to Fincher's absence from the extras and the "assembly cut" just being an early cut found in Fox's archives with some newly finished effects, as opposed to how the other three movies had new versions with heavy input from the directors.
12	** Creator/JamesCameron criticized the sequel harshly, specifically citing [[HappyEndingOverride what became of Bishop, Hicks, and Newt]], though in recent years he has said that aside from that he thinks the movie is fine.
13	** Creator/MichaelBiehn was reportedly so annoyed about his character's fate that he only allowed the use of his likeness in exchange for a hefty paycheck (so hefty, in fact, that it was more than his entire fee for ''{{Film/Aliens}}''). Biehn later regretted his angry decision to deny them any chance to use his likeness - in hindsight saying it would have been a great chance to work with Fincher. He joked that "I was very stupid when I was younger" when, upon hearing that there was a dummy mockup of him with his chest exploded like he'd been host to alien, he replied "I don't care how much money you give me, that alien is ''not'' coming out of me." More seriously, he says that if he had known David Fincher would end up being David Fincher, he wouldn't have fought as hard to be paid for his photograph, instead currying favor with a brilliant director in hopes of future work.
14	** Producer David Giler had harsh words for the film in the DVD documentary "Wreckage and Rage", claiming that it wasn't that scary at all and that he regrets his participation. Notably, he attempted to leave the production at one point, but was forced back by a clause in Creator/SigourneyWeaver's contract. He and co-producer Walter Hill later abandoned Fincher midway through production and forced him to rewrite the script on the fly.
15	** From comments he made on the commentary and in some of the footage for the documentary on the Blu-Ray, Creator/LanceHenriksen isn't overly fond of the movie either, finding it nihilistic, most of the characters despicable, and finding Ripley sleeping with Clemens to be out-of-character. He has even gone on record as saying, "'''FUCK''' Alien³!!!"
16	** Elliot Goldenthal admitted that the score wasn't his best work, stating that he only had a week-and-a-half to compose the score due to the TroubledProduction and had to rush through it without thinking of the quality.
17	** Editor Terry Rawlins was incredibly supportive of David Fincher and considered him as much of an artistic genius as Ridley Scott. He was quite annoyed by the decision to remove the capturing of the Xenomorph and Golic freeing it. While not directly involved, he expressed hope that the Assembly Cut would improve the reputation of the film as he considered it the superior version and may help people recognize it as being on par with ''Alien''.
18	* CreativeDifferences: Fox tried to find the next James Cameron or Ridley Scott. The producers, David Giler and Walter Hill, prided themselves on discovering visionary talent and making each installment different and visually-striking. They went through multiple young directors and writers (cyberpunk master Creator/WilliamGibson turned in a draft) before eventually settling on Vincent Ward, who had some high-concept ideas. His initial draft, which reduced Ripley to a cameo, was nixed; Fox believed she should remain in the center. He came up with the 'planet of monks' concept, which was originally supposed to be a wooden planet covered in farmlands. Really far-out stuff, to the point where Fox got nervous and started asking questions about whether it made any sense, or if it was too different from previous styles. But at that point they had already released a misleading teaser, set a date (their first and biggest mistake), and started building sets. Neither Ward or Fox wanted to compromise, so Ward walked away. That left them with no director and no script a few weeks before shooting.
19	** Hill rewrote the story and adapted it to his own gritty sensibilities. (He was the protégé of Creator/SamPeckinpah before essentially making a series of brutal B-movies.) The monks were reworked into weird British convicts and the sets were repainted to that drab metal look. Michael Biehn and the Newt character were never included, since Ward wanted to wipe the slate clean and make it {{gothic horror}} with a PTSD Ripley, so they just stuck to that.
20	** Notably, Fox had greenlit the Ward[=/=]Fasano "Wooden Planet" script, and ''started building sets for it'', before they decided to start questioning whether or not the basic premise and setting worked in the ''Alien'' 'Verse. Which means either the script was accepted without having been fully read, and thus the studio were initially unaware of the issues. . . or they accepted the script fully aware of the issues and intending to browbeat Ward into "fixing" them ''during'' production, instead of before. Ward walked when he realized that Fox had no intention of letting him make the movie they had hired him to make in the first place.
21	* TheDanza:
22	** Creator/PeterGuinness as Peter Gregor.
23	** Creator/PetePostlethwaite as David Postlewaite.
24	* DeletedScene: Though the Assembly Cut does restore most of what was cut from the theatrical release of the film, there are a number of brief scenes which never made it into either cut of the film--some of which can still be found in [[https://archive.org/details/alien-3-1992-workprint-vhs-rip old bootleg VHS copies of a pre-release workprint cut]].
25	** Originally, the Sulaco was going to be seen partially exploding after the EEV jettisons, the intention being that this explosion is what damages the EEV's guidance systems, causing it to crash on Fiorina 161 instead of landing safely.
26	** The Sulaco's emergency monitor was originally going to show a CATSCAN of the facehugger's proboscis slowly working its way down Ripley's throat.
27	** Newt's autopsy was originally ''much'' more graphic and reportedly made several crew members throw up or walk out of the room during a test screening. Most of the footage was scrapped as a result.
28	** After Dillon says his prayer at the funeral, Ripley was to scratch her head and discover a horde of lice on her fingertips.
29	** When Murphy is killed in the vent shaft, he sings "Paint It Black" rather than "In the Year 2525." The latter was presumably dubbed over the former in post-production because of licensing issues. The scene also contains an alternate shot of the alien clearly spitting acid into Murphy's face.
30	** An actual sex scene between Ripley and Clemens was filmed, but not ultimately used. Instead, their union occurs off-screen.
31	** A short but fairly well-known excision was made during the scene where Ripley goes to find the Xenomorph in the basement. After it drops down, the creature originally reared up over her as she lay on the floor before running away.
32	** Footage was shot of Dillon discovering Troy's mangled body during the bait-and-chase sequence.
33	** An extended sequence of Jude desperately pleading to the Madonna in Italian while being chased by the Xenomorph was also cut.
34	** Many shots of the alien screeching at Ripley and Dillon during the scene wherein they trap it and drown it in hot lead were either cut or replaced.
35	** Just before dousing the molted-covered alien with water, Ripley says to it: "For the last time." This clip appeared in many trailers and was likely filmed specifically for that purpose, but was perhaps deemed cheesy within the context of the finished scene.
36	** While on the gantry after killing the Dragon, Ripley is overcome with pain and nausea due to the embryo inside her. She collapses to the floor, after which Morse helps her back to her feet.
37	** When Aaron meets the Weyland-Yutani personnel, he explains that he's personally seen the alien and that Ripley has one inside of her. Michael Bishop appears, saying: "We know." After a cage (presumably for the adult xenomorph) is set on the floor behind him, Aaron apprehensively tells him that they're going to "need a bigger cage than that."
38	* DyeingForYourArt[=/=]RealLifeWritesTheHairstyle: Creator/SigourneyWeaver initially agreed to shave her head for the filming. However, as the TroubledProduction stretched on, reshoots were done months later, and Weaver refused to shave her head again, which meant spending some thousands of dollars more for a custom-made authentic-looking bald cap.
39	* ExecutiveMeddling: 20th Century Fox spent millions of dollars over a period of four years trying to get the script up and running -- every director who signed up left, either due to CreativeDifferences or refusing Fox's mandates (such as the inclusion of Creator/SigourneyWeaver), and there wasn't even a finished script when filming started, so rookie director Creator/DavidFincher, whom they believed they could control, had to make up the plot of the film as he went along by piecing together parts of the other unfinished scripts and improvising the rest. And Fincher had other plans regarding being a simple workman, and started several battles with the producers. Fox prevented Fincher from shooting key scenes (which he shot anyway, and made it into the final cut), sent him back for reshoots after a deliberately botched test screening (using, as actor Ralph Brown put it, "brain-dead kids from Southern California"), insulted him on several occasions and eventually locked him out of the editing room. The producers would also try to hide the story of the film's production, blocking the original version of the making-of documentary ''Wreckage and Rage'' (itself originally titled ''Wreckage and Rape'',[[note]][[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtUUxu0QiyM one of the tracks in the film's score]][[/note]] telling you what the creators thought of it). Fincher hated the final product and was even so discouraged from directing that he almost turned down ''Film/{{Se7en}}''. \
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41	As a measure of how much it afflicted the film, no fewer than ''eight'' people attempted to claim credit for the screenplay during the WGA arbitration process, with a further four not bothering for various reasons. In particular, Rex Pickett, who wrote a significant portion of the shooting script, ended up being one of the ones not wanting credit largely due to how unpleasant the whole experience had been. This was so bad, even Creator/HRGiger - the original designer for the first Xenomorph - [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_%28creature_in_Alien_franchise%29#Concept_and_credit_controversy was shafted in favor of Tom Woodruff and Alec Gillis' designs.]] This didn't stop Giger [[{{Determinator}} from faxing his designs to his client, David Fincher, after he disbanded from the project.]]
42	** Notably, one of the Fox executives was apparently dead-set on this film revolving around prisoners in some way. Early script treatments were set on a prison barge or transport of some kind (causing tentative director Renny Harlin to quit the project, as it was just "more corridors, more guns, more aliens," and nothing new he could get excited about). When Vincent Ward started doing his story treatment, it was suggested to change the monks from his version into prisoners. And of course, the finished film takes place on a penal colony.
43	* FlipFlopOfGod: Depending on the interview, Creator/LanceHenriksen can't decide if his character Michael Bishop is a human or a robot.
44	* HeyItsThatPlace: The opening scene was shot on a beach at Dawdon, an old pit community in County Durham, England - previously used for a chase sequence in ''Film/{{Get Carter\|1971}}''.
45	* HostilityOnTheSet: As Ralph Brown revealed by posting excerpts of his journal online, Creator/SigourneyWeaver was aloof or outright hostile to most of the other cast members (especially with him, Brian Glover and Creator/CharlesDance) during filming. She did apologize after the premiere, and Ralph understood much of it was due to the overall tension everyone was going through during the film's legendary production difficulties.
46	* LoopingLines: Averted in the original Assembly Cut. Some of the restored scenes were cut before the [=ADR=] was recorded, and since they didn't do any re-recording for the DVD, it can be difficult to hear the dialogue, but subtitles are available. The Blu-ray release fixed this and brought the actors back to record the dialogue.
47	* MissingTrailerScene: The trailers have Ripley say "For the last time..." before dousing the alien with water. This was cut from the film.
48	* MoneyDearBoy: Creator/MichaelBiehn was paid almost as much as he'd received for ''Film/{{Aliens}}'' - for a picture of him that appears briefly in the film's opening.
49	* OneForTheMoneyOneForTheArt: After getting the boot as director, Vincent Ward used his pay off to finance ''Map of the Human Heart''.
50	* TheOtherDarrin: Carrie Henn was too old to play Newt, so Danielle Edmund (in her first, and only, film appearance) acted as a FakeShemp for her in the opening titles. For the autopsy scene, a cast mould of Carrie Henn was made.
51	* PlayingAgainstType: Creator/CharlesDance usually plays stern or intimidating authority types. Here he plays a bitter medic who's the NonActionGuy of the bunch.
52	* PromotedFanboy: [[https://www.firstshowing.net/2011/exclusive-fincher-explains-reasons-why-he-made-each-of-his-films/ In a rare occasion where he wanted to talk about the movie]], Creator/DavidFincher said "I wanted to do an ''Alien'' movie. I wanted to do one since I was 16. (...) The fact that I wasn't allowed to was my own fault. But, you know, that was a world that I loved that I couldn't get enough of."
53	* Main/PropRecycling: During a scene at the start of the film (in which there is a facehugger on Ripley's face), a prosthetic of {{Creator/Meryl Streep}}, recycled from ''{{Film/Death Becomes Her}}'', is used to represent Ripley. This was because Sigourney Weaver was unavailable, so a prosthetic couldn't be made using her likeness. The use of Meryl Streep's face instead is ironic given that she was originally considered for the role of Ripley.
54	* RealitySubtext:
55	** Creator/CharlesSDutton (Dillon) is a real life former convict who cleaned himself up before getting into acting.
56	** As revealed in HostilityOnTheSet above, Sigourney Weaver did not get along with either Ralph Brown (Aaron) or Brian Glover (Andrews) during filming, which definitely carried over during their characters scenes with one another.
57	* SavedFromDevelopmentHell: The tale of ''Alien³'''s development is the stuff of industry legend, and a prime example of ExecutiveMeddling in full force. A rotating lineup of directors who all got shunted aside by FOX, a lineup of writers working on screenplayers ''concurrently'' with no idea other writers were involved, delays, reshoots, disastrous test screenings, tensions between FOX and (then-newbie) director David Fincher, a "pay-or-play" deal between the studio and Creator/SigourneyWeaver, Fincher getting locked out of the editing room, executives and writers at odds as to how the story would play out, months spent building sets that had to be shoehorned into a completely different script...it all added to a giant mess in its development.
58	* SparedByTheCut: Several script drafts had Bishop die after being bludgeoned by Aaron/Golic, following which one of the Weyland-Yutani scientists, named Dr. Matshuita, would take over and attempt to convince Ripley to come with them. It was eventually decided Bishop's death was an AntiClimax and the script was changed to have him survive, while Matshuita was relegated to a background character.
59	* TroubledProduction: One could probably do an entire semester of film school class on the problems ''Alien³'' faced. (just see all the other entries in this page; or for more detail, [[TroubledProduction/FilmSerialOffendersFranchises the dedicated Alien folder, as the franchise is a magnet for things going awry]]). Pre-production was a roulette of attached writers and directors, plus ideas thrown left and right (first it was two simultaneous movies, then just a third; Ripley would not appear, then Fox forced her inclusion, at great expense - Sigourney Weaver received $4 million and a co-producer credit, and Ripley was made less warmongering; the setting was changed from a monastery to a prison right as production begun, meaning there was already a church set built - some shuffling was made to still use it, as a chapel inside the facility). The film started without a complete script and an already set release date, making first-time director Creator/DavidFincher to rush into production to make up for lost time, along the way clashing with both producers Walter Hill and David Giler and the Fox executives. The cinematographer also fell ill from Parkinson's disease a few days into filming, necessitating a quick replacement. Reshoots were plentiful, even forcing a custom-made authentic-looking bald cap to make Weaver bald again. Says something every party involved has bad memories or tries to distance itself from the film, and Fox executives severely cut down Charles Lauzirika's documentary on the film for the ''Alien Quadrilogy'' box set to remove parts that painted a too unflattering image of the studio (thankfully, they allowed the original cut to appear on the ''Anthology'' Blu-Ray set - albeit changing the title that was nixed from the DVD, "Wreckage and Rape", to "Wreckage and ''[[CensoredTitle Rage]]''", presumably to look less as a TakeThat towards the studio).
60	* WagTheDirector: Creator/SigourneyWeaver pushed for the lack of weaponry in the film, as she was very anti-gun in real life. As a result, Ripley does not handle a single weapon in the whole film.
61	* WhatCouldHaveBeen: See the franchise's [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/{{Alien}} page]].

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