Line #16 Trivia/Dogma


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2	* AwesomeDearBoy: Creator/AlanRickman only had two questions before signing on as Metatron; if his angel wings would be real or CGI, and if all of his character's dialogue would be filmed as written. Creator/KevinSmith confirmed the wings in his scenes would be real and that he wouldn't change a word in the script. After that, Rickman signed on.
3	** The cast was so intimidated having a respected actor like Alan Rickman onboard that Creator/JasonMewes memorized ''every character's dialogue'', not just his own: "I didn't wanna piss off that Rickman dude."
4	* CaliforniaDoubling: Most of the film was shot in and around UsefulNotes/{{Pittsburgh}}, which stands in for various other parts of the US.
5	* CastTheRunnerUp:
6	** Creator/KevinSmith found Creator/LindaFiorentino so difficult to work with that he regretted not casting his first choice, Creator/JaneaneGarofalo (who played Bethany's co-worker Liz). He later said after his 2018 heart attack that a number of people contacted him from his past, including Fiorentino, and he apologized to her for calling her out in the commentary track, saying it wasn't fair and that he really loved her performance in the film.
7	** Music/AlanisMorissette was originally meant to play Bethany Sloan, but was unable to because of her 1998-99 world tour. By the time she was able to work on the film, the role had been cast, so she was offered the chance to play God as compensation.
8	** Creator/JasonLee was originally cast as Loki. Scheduling conflicts meant he had to take the smaller role of Azrael.
9	* ChannelHop: Creator/{{Disney}}, who owned Creator/MiramaxFilms at the time, got cold feet when the Catholic League began protesting the film and forced the Weinstein brothers to buy the film themselves. The Weinsteins then licensed it to Creator/{{Lionsgate}} for theatrical distribution and [[Creator/ColumbiaPictures Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment]] for home video (Lionsgate was, at the time, a relatively-obscure, primarily Canadian film company with an even smaller home entertainment arm; they wouldn't acquire Artisan Entertainment for a couple more years). The result was ''Dogma'' becoming Lionsgate's highest-grossing film until the ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'' series, and one of the highest-grossing independent films ever.
10	* CreatorBacklash: Mocked; when a group of people announced they were going to picket his film at a theater near where he lives, Creator/KevinSmith himself showed up and picketed the film too with a "Dogma is dogshit" banner. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QepgKVOVfZ8 He ends up being filmed by a news crew as a protester, and the reporter recognized him.]] The funniest part was that the protest was slated to be a group of 1500 people, of which there were... fifteen. He went on to say that he was most disappointed that nobody had even gone to the effort of making a sign as nice and detailed as his.
11	* DeletedScene: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WthYwcevIq4 A whole bunch of 'em]]
12	** There was a deleted scene, which made it all the way to the Cannes screening, of Azrael giving his take on {{Hell}} of being a place of eternal HeroicSelfDeprecation, making it a place of eternal suffering. This being bad for Fallen Angels, which is shown with Bartleby, that being away from {{God}} is bad enough, but humanity's guilt in creating a hellhole drove them so insane that Azrael prefers oblivion than undergoing eternal SanitySlippage. It was cut for making him seem [[UnintentionallySympathetic too sympathetic]].
13	** There was also a climactic face-off in the hospital between Silent Bob, a badly burned and half-decomposed Triplet, and the Golgothan. The battle was to end with the Triplet killing Bethany (temporarily), and God, newly liberated, transforming the Golgothan into flowers. Test audiences felt there was "too much Golgothan", and the film's run time already exceeded two hours, so the scene was eliminated.
14	* DeletedRole: Ernie O'Donnell, a recurring actor in the View Askewniverse, played a reporter who tried to ask Cardinal Glick about his stance on John Doe Jersey during the Catholicism Wow press conference, only to get shot down. His scene didn't make the final cut.
15	* DenialOfDigitalDistribution: Because the distribution deals surrounding the film were made before digital and streaming became prevalent, such a release was never negotiated. The rights are owned by now-disgraced producer Harvey Weinstein. Almost a week before everything was exposed, Weinstein had actually contacted Smith about finally getting it onto streaming; but obviously, after everything broke, that not only ended up not happening, but Smith suspected Weinstein had no serious intention of doing so, and only used it as an excuse to call him because he wanted to see if Smith was aware of the allegations and had talked to any news outlets about it.
16	* DevelopmentHell: Hahaha... no, but seriously. Kevin Smith started writing this movie before he wrote ''Film/{{Clerks}}'', but after listening to a radio interview with Creator/RobertRodriguez about the importance of writing around what was readily available, Smith wisely decided that it was too ambitious and started writing a film about the convenience store he worked in instead. He then considered doing this as his follow up, but felt that he still needed more experience as a filmmaker first.
17	* GodDoesNotOwnThisWorld: Due to the subject matter the rights to the film remained with Harvey Weinstein personally. [[WeUsedToBeFriends After a personal and professional falling out]] Smith discovered this film was the only one he had little control over, Weinstein apparently called him talking about a sequel but it was a smoke screen trying to figure out who had been talking to the press before the Weinstein scandal broke (when it did, Smith forfeited all royalties from the films he did with Weinstein to charity). Smith would comment "My movie about angels is owned by the devil."
18	* HostilityOnTheSet: Using his indie cred and connections, Smith managed to assemble an all-star cast which included Creator/LindaFiorentino, who was already gaining a [[ThePrimaDonna reputation for being difficult to work with]]. This project was Fiorentino's last stab at relevancy, and she repaid Smith by making his life a living hell, going so far as to not even speak to him on certain days. They reconciled in 2018 when Smith reached out to Fiorentino following his heart attack, and she sent condolences.
19	* IronyAsSheIsCast:
20	** Staunchly atheist Creator/GeorgeCarlin as a priest (a corrupt one, so it's not ''that'' ironic). He's also seen playing OfficeGolf, despite (or rather [[ActorAllusion because of]]) Carlin having several standup routines about how much he loathed golf.
21	** God, whose voice people cannot hear without their heads exploding, is played by [[spoiler:''singer'' Music/AlanisMorissette]].
22	* KeepCirculatingTheTapes: The film's last home video release was in 2008 on Blu-ray. By that point, all of the licensing deals which the Weinsteins had made had expired and because they were made prior to streaming becoming popular, a digital release was never negotiated. As a result, the film has never been available on a streaming service or for digital purchase. [=DVDs=] and Blu-rays of the film have since gone out of print, leading to inflated secondhand prices, typically over $50 for [=DVD=] and $200 for Blu-ray. The exclusive rights to the film are still held by the Weinsteins, who Kevin Smith wants nothing to do with any more after Harvey Weinstein's extensive history of sexual abuse came to light. (He'd already been on bad terms with Weinstein since 2011, when Weinstein acted extremely disrespectfully at the premiere of Smith's film ''Film/RedState'', so it was personal and then some.)
23	* LifeImitatesArt: As if "Buddy Christ" had not been MemeticMutation enough on its own, [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2011/aug/26/jesus-macho-makeover along comes this to make things interesting.]]
24	* NoExportForYou: The UK is stuck with a vanilla DVD (the extras are a trailer and few minutes of TV interviews with the cast). More galling because this edition is produced by Creator/FilmFourProductions who ''co-funded'' the production!
25	* OrphanedReference:
26	** Cardinal Glick places an odd emphasis on God being male, considering the final cut has nobody telling him otherwise.
27	** Originally, Creator/HollyHunter was supposed to play God, hence Jay mentioning ''Film/ThePiano''.
28	* ScrewedByTheLawyers: The aforementioned copyright mix-up, along with Creator/KevinSmith understandably not wanting to renegotiate a new distribution deal with the now-disgraced Harvey Weinstein, who still owns the rights to the film, are what's presently keeping it from getting a digital release. As he put it, "My film about angels is owned by the devil."
29	* StarDerailingRole: After the film came out, Creator/KevinSmith went on at length to anyone who'd listen about how uncooperative Creator/LindaFiorentino was. As this was the latest in a string of negative stories about her on-set behavior, it severely dampened her already failing acting career, and most of her roles since have been either bombs or direct-to-video. He later said after his 2018 heart attack that a number of people contacted him from his past, including Fiorentino, and he apologized to her for calling her out in the commentary track, saying it wasn't fair and that he really loved her performance in the film. Her career was largely derailed due to the 1996 film ''{{Film/Jade}}'', which was so badly received by critics that it also derailed Creator/DavidCaruso's dreams of being a Hollywood leading man.
30	* StillbornFranchise: After 9/11, Creator/KevinSmith toyed with the idea of doing a sequel about Islam and its relationship with Christianity, feeling that both the tragedy itself and the fallout afterwards were extremely religiously charged from both sides. This sequel would have followed Bethany's daughter, the ''new'' last scion, to be played either by Music/AlanisMorissette or an actress who looked sufficiently similar to her. Her adventure to save humanity from a new religious threat would have involved recruiting Jay and Silent Bob, the latter of whom had become a loud, shouty, obnoxious televangelist preacher after the events of the first film. He eventually decided the subject was too complicated for him to handle gracefully and abandoned the idea.[[note]]According to Smith, Harvey Weinstein called him a week before the incriminating article about Weinstein's extensive history of sexual abuse was published to negotiate a possible sequel. Smith later realized that Weinstein had no interest in such a thing, rather he knew rumors about the article were already beginning to spread and [[SecretTestOfCharacter he was calling everyone he knew to see who was still on his side]].[[/note]]
31	* ThrowItIn:
32	** Rufus' reply, "Know him? Nigga owes me twelve bucks!" when asked if he knows Christ, was one of the few lines ad-libbed by Creator/ChrisRock. When Rufus awakens on the train, he says the words "poopy trim", this was not in the script, but had been used in ''Film/{{Mallrats}}'', when Willam is standing in front of the magic eye poster, he is woken from his trance by Brodie, and he says "poopy trim", and another ad-lib is when Rock calls Silent Bob "biggie". It was originally written as "tubby".
33	** On the train when Silent Bob grabs Bartleby, he yells, "Schüler Bob? I'll get you for this Schüler Bob!" Creator/BenAffleck ad-libbed the line, much to the amusement of the cast and crew, intending it to be Silent Bob in German. Creator/KevinSmith left it in even though Schüler is actually German for pupil.
34	** In the the gun shop, you can see Ben pick up a knife and play with it. If you continue to watch Ben, you will see him cut his finger. He then recoils with a look of shock on his face. This is joked about in the DVDCommentary too.
35	* TrollingCreator: Unbeknown to protesters, Creator/KevinSmith joined one of the Catholic groups that protested his film, with a sign that said "''Dogma'' is Dogshit". He managed to get interviewed by a reporter who recognized him, though Smith managed to stay incognito by giving his friend's name as his own (Bryan Johnson; also present at the protest rally) and telling her that he is often mistaken for the ''Film/{{Clerks}}'' director. During the interview, Smith (as Johnson) also made the comment that he kind of liked his first film.
36	* UncreditedRole: While Creator/EthanSuplee did the voice of the Golgothan, there's no record of who physically portrayed the Golgothan.
37	* WhatCouldHaveBeen
38	** Creator/JoeyLaurenAdams was going to play Bethany, but Creator/{{Miramax}} only agreed to finance the production if it had a more recognizable actress in the role. Creator/GillianAnderson was also considered.
39	** An earlier version of the script available [[http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/d/dogma-script-screenplay-kevin-smith.html here]] features scenes of Jay and Silent Bob singing, a full explanation of the Stygian triplets, as well as the second fight against Noman the Golgothan. These scenes are also available on the 2-disc DVD.
40	** Creator/KevinSmith jokes that he originally wanted to end the film by God answering Bethany's "Why are we here?" question with "[[Film/TheGraduate I've got one word for you, just one: plastics!]]," resulting in [[YourHeadAsplode everyone's head blowing up]].
41	** Creator/EmmaThompson was also offered the role of God, but she turned it down in order to have a baby. At one point, Creator/HollyHunter was going to play the role.
42	** Creator/ShannenDoherty, who had been in Smith's ''Film/{{Mallrats}}'', wanted to be in the film, either as Bethany or God.
43	** Before Music/HowardShore, Music/DannyElfman was approached to score the film, but he was unavailable.
44	** Smith pursued Creator/RobertRodriguez to direct the film[[note]]As mentioned above, Smith wanted this to be his first film, but while writing it, he was listening to an interview with Rodriguez on ''Radio/TheHowardSternShow'' about how he wrote the script for ''Film/ElMariachi'' around whatever he had available to save money. Smith was at Quick Stop at that moment and though to himself "Well, I have a ''store''," and ''Clerks'' was born.[[/note]]. Rodriguez enjoyed the script but, in seeing how personal the story was, insisted that Smith himself direct.
45	** Creator/SamuelLJackson and Creator/WillSmith were considered for Rufus.
46	** Creator/BillMurray, Creator/AdamSandler and Creator/JohnTravolta were all considered for Azrael. Sandler turned it down in order to star in ''Film/BigDaddy'' (which, oddly enough, also starred Joey Lauren Adams).
47	** Creator/AlbertBrooks and Creator/ChevyChase were offered the role of Cardinal Glick.
48	** The boardroom massacre was supposed to be a Creator/JohnWoo-type action sequence (hence the big stunt guys in suits) but Smith decided to change it at the last minute.
49	** A very early version of the script had Bethany blowing up the church so Bartelby and Loki couldn't get blessed. It's possible this is the version the Catholic League got their hands on and why they were so upset.
50	* WorkingTitle: ''{{God}}: TheMovie''. It was also filmed under the code name ''Bearclaw''.

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