1 | [[AC: SortingAlgorithmOfDeadness]] |
2 | |
3 | Using the scientifically '''''Infallible''''' power of the SortingAlgorithmOfDeadness, who do you think is the next in line for being brought back from the great Bus in the sky? |
4 | |
5 | To use the Algorithm, simply add the Column's "Death Value", and divide by the number of applicable rows. |
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8 | || ''Relative deadness factor'' || '''DeaderThanDead''' || '''[[PutOnABus Maybe Back Later]]''' || '''[[InferredSurvival Be Back Soon]]''' || '''[[ContractualImmortality Death? What's That?]]''' || |
9 | || '''Death Value''' || '''''[[FourIsDeath 4]]''''' || '''''3''''' || '''''2''''' || '''''1''''' || |
10 | || ''[[JustForFun/HowToKillACharacter Cause of death]]'' || [[DeathByIrony Irony]], [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]], [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Overkill]], StuffedInTheFridge, RetGone || [[RedemptionEqualsDeath Redemption]], [[HeroicSacrifice Sacrifice]], BusCrash, MortalWoundReveal || NoOneCouldSurviveThat, just plain killed in battle || [[SuicidalGotcha Jumping]] || |
11 | || ''[[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt Audience Expectation]]'' || AnyoneCanDie, EveryoneDiesEnding || KilledOffForReal, TonightSomeoneDies || DisneyDeath || BackFromTheDead, DeathIsCheap, NobodyCanDie || |
12 | || ''Body Found?'' || [[DeaderThanDead Dead]] and [[MeaningfulFuneral Buried]]\ |
13 | [[ChunkySalsaRule Only Bits And Pieces]] || [[WakingUpAtTheMorgue At The Morgue]] || [[NeverFoundTheBody Never Found]], [[HumanPopsicle Frozen]], [[TakenForGranite Petrified]] || LeftForDead || |
14 | || ''Reaction'' || [[ReallyDeadMontage Montage]], BondOneLiner || HesDeadJim || ItsPersonal || FauxDeath || |
15 | || ''Last Words'' || [[OhCrap Crap]], KilledMidSentence, [[SedgwickSpeech Carry on men]], HisNameIs || CatchPhrase, "Famous Last Words", FinalSpeech, ObiWanMoment || [[YouShallNotPass "Fly, you fools!"]] [[TemptingFate "Piece of cake"]] || "MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning" || |
16 | || ''[[{{Characters}} Characterization]]'' || RedShirt, [[DeathByOriginStory Loved One]], MauveShirt || RecurringCharacter, CListFodder || {{Regular}} || [[ContractualImmortality Protagonist, Archvillain]] || |
17 | || ''[[SeasonFluidity When did they die?]]'' || 10+ years ago, [[GrandFinale Series Finale]] || 5-10 years ago || Same year || [[StoryArc Same arc]] || |
18 | || ''[[BackFromTheDead "Died" and come back?]]'' || [[NotQuiteDead Not yet]] || Died once, but got better || [[FakingTheDead Twice]] || [[JokerImmunity I've]] [[StayingAlive lost]] [[DeathIsCheap count]] || |
19 | |
20 | If the character hasn't died yet (but seems likely to), see SortingAlgorithmOfMortality. All of this is trumped by the FirstLawOfResurrection. |
21 | |
22 | Currently, [[spoiler:The real Caulder]] from ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'' and [[spoiler:Teri Bauer]] from ''Series/TwentyFour'' are the only characters to have scored 4, the highest possible. And are notable for having 4 in ''every'' category. At one point, [[spoiler:Shirley]] from ''Anime/CodeGeass'' and also scored 4, thanks in part to a special [=CLAMP=] bonus that became harder to defend as the series went on. [[spoiler:Chloe Sullivan]] from ''Series/{{Smallville}}'' is currently the only character to have scored a perfect 1, in the episode ''Fracture'', with the rest of the cast not even taking her death seriously, fully expecting her return. |
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25 | |
26 | '''Baseline Example: The death of Franchise/{{Superman}}.''' |
27 | * Cause: HeroicSacrifice, so he's not coming back from that too quickly, or the sacrifice will be cheapened. 3. |
28 | * Genre: It's a comic book, so DeathIsCheap. 1. |
29 | * The Body: DeaderThanDead, a PietaPlagiarism too for supes sake! So no chance of FakingTheDead. 4. |
30 | * Reaction: ReallyDeadMontage, uh-oh. 4. |
31 | * Characterization: Protagonist. 1. |
32 | * When did he die: Same year, so 2. |
33 | * Come Back?: This was a first, so 4. |
34 | * Average: So add it up... we get a pretty high score, 19! Since it's not a videogame, divide by 7, and we get... 19/7 = 2.7, meaning supes isn't coming back for at least a few months, maybe even years. In actuality the ''Death Of Superman'' happened in January 1993 and he came back some time before May 1994. |
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37 | |
38 | '''Now let's make a prediction with the recent death of Franchise/{{Batman}} in ComicBook/FinalCrisis.''' |
39 | * Cause: HeroicSacrifice, give or take. 3. |
40 | * Genre: Comic book, so DeathIsCheap. 1. |
41 | * The Body: [[DeaderThanDead Dead and buried]], but it's a little more complicated. Still, it's a 4. |
42 | * Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead Clark]], plus "Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?" probably counts as a ReallyDeadMontage. 3.5. |
43 | * Characterization: It's [[MemeticMutation The Goddamn Batman]], people. 1. |
44 | * When did he die: Same year, so 2. |
45 | * Come Back?: This would be the first time, so 4. |
46 | * Average: 21.5/8= 2.7. A semi-high score, and DC seems to be sticking to this one for a while. Still, he'll definitely be back, likely before the end of 2010 at the latest.[[spoiler: CORRECT!]] |
47 | |
48 | |
49 | '''Note: This sub-page is for {{Anime}} and {{Manga}} examples only. Please ensure that you put new examples in the correct WMG/SortingAlgorithmOfDeadness sub-page.''' |
50 | ---- |
51 | |
52 | [[foldercontrol]] |
53 | |
54 | [[folder:''Attack on Titan'']] |
55 | |
56 | The summer's most murder-tastic anime definitely needs a page here. |
57 | |
58 | For fun, let's start with Eren Jaegar's near the beginning of the story |
59 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice. He dives into a Titan's mouth to save [[spoiler: Armin.]] Solid 3. |
60 | * '''Audience Expectation''': The show is definitely edging into AnyoneCanDie at this point. 4 |
61 | * '''Body Found''': Well, on the one hand his body was never found, but that's because he was ''swallowed by a Titan.'' Let's go for 3, averaging NeverFoundTheBody and ChunkySalsaRule because of all those lost limbs. |
62 | * '''Reaction''': [[spoiler: Armin]] gets a really fast, freaky montage in the next episode and a couple of flashbacks. 4. |
63 | * '''Last Words''': An inspiring speech about going to see the outside world. 4. |
64 | * '''Characterization''': Probably his one saving category. [[spoiler: 1. He's the protagonist!]] |
65 | * '''When Did They Die?''': 1 |
66 | * '''Died and Came Back?''': At that point, no, nor had anybody else. 4. |
67 | ** RESULT: 3 on the nose. [[spoiler: Pretty dead for someone who canonically [[UnexplainedRecovery got better]]]] |
68 | |
69 | And now one of the iconic shock tragedies of the series, Marco Bott |
70 | * '''Cause of Death''': {{Overkill}} with a hefty dose of {{Irony}}. He's torn in half by a Titan after the battle of Trost offscreen, ''after'' everyone thinks they're safe. 4. |
71 | * '''Audience Expectation''': AnyoneCanDie. 4. |
72 | * '''Body Found''': OH GOD YES CHUNKY SALSA RULE INSTANT 4 |
73 | * '''Reaction''': [[spoiler: "Marco...is that you?"]] HesDeadJim. 3. |
74 | * '''Last Words''': Not applicable. He's killed offscreen, so he doesn't really get them. Or at least they're not seen. |
75 | * '''Characterization''': Probably around enough by that point to qualify as a RecurringCharacter. 3. |
76 | * '''When Did They Die?''': Hm. A few arcs ago, now, so probably a 2. |
77 | * '''Died and Came Back?''': Nope. Only [[spoiler: Eren]] gets to do that. 4. |
78 | ** RESULT: 3.4. Yeah, [[spoiler: no resurrection for Freckled Jesus.]] |
79 | |
80 | Let's see if we can go higher. Ooh, how about Petra Ral? |
81 | * '''Cause Of Death''': {{Irony}} Similar to [[spoiler: Marco]] above, she's killed right after everything appears to be safe. She is also killed after the PowerOfFriendship appears to have triumphed...[[spoiler: by a traitor.]]. 4. |
82 | * '''Audience Expectation''': After [[spoiler: Marco?]] ANYONE can die. 4 |
83 | * '''Body Found''': She's put in a morgue - er, cart. 3. |
84 | * '''Reaction''': There are plenty of montages of [[spoiler: Levi's squad after they all die.]] 4. |
85 | * '''Last Words''': [[spoiler: It prioritized one eye to accelerate the healing! Is that even possible?]] Pretty much a lengthier OhCrap. 4. |
86 | * '''Characterization''': MauveShirt, at that point. She'd been around for a bit, but we didn't know as much about her as we did, say, the 104s. 4. |
87 | * '''When Did They Die?''': The manga has moved on enough that this qualifies for a 2. |
88 | * '''Died and Came Back?''': Nope. 4. |
89 | ** RESULT: 3.6 [[spoiler: Wow. Petra's...really, really dead.]] |
90 | |
91 | Okay, okay, last one - Carla Jaegar! |
92 | * '''Cause Of Death''': StuffedIntoTheFridge in the first episode. Her death exists to cause the protagonist pain. 4. |
93 | * '''Audience Expectation''': Hers is the first death in the series, but by now we know we should expect AnyoneCanDie. 4. |
94 | * '''Body Found''': Hm...I'm actually going to go with 4 here, because not only does she get eaten by a Titan, but the manga pretty clearly shows the Titan biting clean through her legs on the way down. |
95 | * '''Reaction''': [[spoiler: Eren]] has enough montage-flashbacks of her to qualify for a 4. |
96 | * '''Last Words''': Does "Please come back!" count as an OhCrap? 4. |
97 | * '''Characterization''': Loved one. 4. |
98 | * '''When Did They Die?''': Approximately 5 years before the main arc. 3. |
99 | * '''Died and Came Back?''': No. 4. |
100 | ** RESULT: 3.9 Holy shit. If Attack on Titan ends with a timeskip of over five years without her coming back, she'll tie for first place. |
101 | |
102 | [[/folder]] |
103 | |
104 | [[folder:''Bleach'']] |
105 | |
106 | Something to twist the algorithm a bit, because it's funny. Let's test [[Manga/{{Bleach}} Sousuke Aizen]]'s first death, avaliating the circumstances presented at the moment: |
107 | |
108 | '''Sousuke Aizen'''. |
109 | * Cause of Death: No One Could Survive That - 2 |
110 | * Genre: At the time, Killed Off For Real (it developed to Death Is Cheap in the Hueco Mundo Arc) - 3 |
111 | * Reaction: He's Dead Jim (his deadness was diagnosed) - 3 |
112 | * Body: Technically not buried, but surely dead, according to all diagnosis and the HUGE SPLATTER OF BLOOD - 4 |
113 | * Characterization Protagonist - He wasn't revealed to be a villain until then; he was just a C-List by then, for sure. 3. |
114 | * Died: Same arc – 1 |
115 | * Previous Death - Technically, he's ''already'' dead... 3. |
116 | * Average: 19/7 = 2.71. Pretty high for someone that clearly faked his death, that's how so many people were surprised when he returned and made TheReveal. |
117 | |
118 | And let's see how one of his later deaths match up. Specifically, when he was blown up by Urahara's little trick. |
119 | |
120 | '''Sousuke Aizen'''. |
121 | * Cause of Death: No One Could Survive That - 2 |
122 | * Genre: Death Is Cheap - 1 |
123 | * Reaction: Oh Crap - 4 |
124 | * Body: Left for Dead - 1 |
125 | * Characterization: Archvillain - 1 |
126 | * Died: Same arc - 1 |
127 | * Previous Death - So. Many. Times - 1 |
128 | * Average: 12/7 = 1.71, unless I'm sorely mistaken. Would have been less if he didn't react to something he knew wouldn't kill him with an 'oh crap'. |
129 | |
130 | So did Grimmjow really die? |
131 | |
132 | '''Grimmjow''' |
133 | * Cause of Death: Bridge drop (suddenly attacked and struck down by Nnoitra)- 4 |
134 | * Genre: Death is Cheap - 1 |
135 | * Reaction: Ichigo is angered - 2 |
136 | * Body: Left for Dead (hasn't been seen since the start of Ichigo vs. Nnoitra) - 1 |
137 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist, almost a regular - 2.5 |
138 | * Died: Same arc -1 |
139 | * Previous death: None, except the one that made him a hollow - 4 |
140 | * Average: 15.5/7 = 2.20. He'll be back. |
141 | |
142 | Here's an analysis for Harribel, since a lot of people have a hard time accepting her defeat (considering her opponent) |
143 | * Cause of Death: [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge drop]] (done in by a suddenly revealed ability) - 4 |
144 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
145 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist - 3 |
146 | * Reaction: Potentially [[HesDeadJim She's Dead Jim]], as [[spoiler:Hitsugaya]] notes that she won't be able to avenge her underlings - 3 |
147 | * Body: [[spoiler: Frozen]] - 2 |
148 | * Died: Same arc- 1 |
149 | * Previous death: None - 4 |
150 | * Average: 18/7 = 2.57. Average chance of coming back. |
151 | |
152 | Baraggan |
153 | * Cause of Death: NoOneCouldSurviveThat (Blown up)- 2 |
154 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
155 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist -3 |
156 | * Reaction: Hardly any. |
157 | * Body: NeverFoundTheBody (Obscured by the blast and the smoke) - 3 |
158 | * Died: Same Arc - 1 |
159 | * Previous Death: None - 4 |
160 | * Average: 14/6= 2.33. Slightly better than [[spoiler:Harribel]]. |
161 | |
162 | Both Baraggan and Harribel are alive |
163 | |
164 | Baraggan, again |
165 | * Cause of Death: Killed by his own Respira, Death By Irony - 4 |
166 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
167 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist - 2 |
168 | * Reaction: Montage of life as a Hollow. |
169 | * Body: Disintegrated. Definitely Deader Than Dead. |
170 | * Died: Same Arc - 1 |
171 | * Previous Death: The one above, the one where he was trapped in the gate, and the one that made him a hollow, which doesn't count, so, 2. |
172 | * Average: 2.75. He's not done yet, bizzarely. |
173 | |
174 | Szayel Aporro Granz |
175 | * Cause of Death: DeathByIrony - 1 |
176 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
177 | * Body Found?: LeftForDead - 1 |
178 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist -3 |
179 | * Body: LeftForDead - 1 |
180 | * Died: Same Arc - 1 |
181 | * Previous Death: None - 4 |
182 | * Average: 12/7= 1.71. He'll be back. |
183 | |
184 | Harribel, again |
185 | * Cause of Death: BridgeDrop ([[spoiler:killed by Aizen]]) - 4 |
186 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
187 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist - 3 |
188 | * LastWords: OhCrap - 4 |
189 | * Reaction: None, yet. |
190 | * Body: Unknown at this point |
191 | * Died: Same arc- 1 |
192 | * Previous death: Once - 3 |
193 | * Average: 2.66. |
194 | |
195 | Starrk |
196 | * Cause of Death: DroppedABridgeOnHim (suddenly killed by Kyoraku's ability)- 4 |
197 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap- 1 |
198 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist -3 |
199 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech - 3 |
200 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
201 | * Body: Fallen out of sight- 3 |
202 | * Died: Same arc - 1 |
203 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
204 | * Average: 2.875. Not good for Bleach. |
205 | |
206 | Riyalgo Yammy |
207 | * Cause of Death: Overkill. Or I assume so. He was left a bloody mess by Byakuya and Kenpachi, so... 4 |
208 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap. 1 |
209 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist. 3 |
210 | * LastWords: Unknown |
211 | * Reaction: None |
212 | * Body: Left for dead. 1 |
213 | * Died: Same arc. 1 |
214 | * Previous Death: No. 4 |
215 | * Average: 2. We could be seeing him again. Then again, Kenpachi and Byakuya had it at him, so... maybe not. |
216 | |
217 | Ulquiorra Cifer |
218 | * Cause of Death: MortalWoundReveal, RedemptionEqualsDeath. Spent the last of his energy saving Orihime and Ishida, then revealed that he was unable to regenerate the organs he'd lost in the battle. 3 |
219 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap. 1 |
220 | * Characterization: Recurring antagonist, borderline regular much like Grimmjow. 2.5 |
221 | * Reaction: Grief from Orihime, a MyGodWhatHaveIDone from Ichigo. 2 |
222 | * Body: Disintegrated into ashes and carried away on the wind. 4 |
223 | * Died: Same arc. 1 |
224 | * Previous Death: None. 4 |
225 | * Average: 2.5625 Has a fairly decent shot at returning, especially since regeneration was his best skill, he'd regrown organs before (his eyes), and it's ''still'' not very clear what exactly happened to him. |
226 | |
227 | Ichimaru Gin |
228 | * Cause of Death: Redemption(ish) 3 |
229 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap. 1 |
230 | * Characterization: Major antagonist 2 |
231 | * LastWords: Final (internal) speech. 3 |
232 | * Reaction: Flashback montage. 4 |
233 | * Body: Left for dead. 1 |
234 | * Died: Same arc. 1 |
235 | * Previous Death: No. 4 |
236 | * Average: 2.375. Could be seeing him again, especially given the tendency of Bleach characters to recover from injuries that should really have killed them. |
237 | |
238 | [[/folder]] |
239 | |
240 | [[folder:''Code Geass'']] |
241 | |
242 | Shirley |
243 | * Cause of death: Bridge drop. 4 |
244 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie. 4. Not looking good here... |
245 | * Body found: Yup. The protagonist watched her die. 4 |
246 | * Reaction: No actual montage so we have to keep it at HesDeadJim. 3 |
247 | * Characterisation: ''Just'' got bumped up to full-fledged LovedOne. 4 |
248 | * When: Arc changed, so 2 at least. 4 if you count the series ending without her comming back as equivalent to her death having occured in the series finale. |
249 | * Average... 23/6 = 3.8. Yup, we ain't seeing her again. |
250 | * Additionally, given that this series had character designs by CLAMP, some have suggested to add a CLAMP Really Dead Factor for an additional 4. In this case, she scored '''4''' on average (just to justify the intro text). |
251 | |
252 | This is another test |
253 | |
254 | Nunnally |
255 | * Died by: Nuke, but we don't actually see the death; this is either [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]] or NoOneCouldSurviveThat. I'll go with the latter for 2. |
256 | * Genre: Going by the Shirley example, 4, though if you count Jeremiah, [[spoiler: Charles, and marianne,]] you could make a case for KilledOffForReal. I'll go with that, 3 |
257 | * Body: NeverFoundTheBody, though not for lack of trying. 3. |
258 | * Reaction: "Nii-san, she's dead..." 3. |
259 | * Characterization: Loved One, 4. |
260 | * When: Same Arc - 1, though the arc changed since then with a month timeskip, so I'll go with 2. |
261 | * Died and come back: No. Kidnapped once, but they never claimed her to be dead. 4 |
262 | * Add them together, 21. All right, divide by the number of applicable rows, which is 7. It ends up as 3. All things considered, her return was a surprise, although pretty much everyone expected it, it was still a HolyShit moment. |
263 | |
264 | One more, this time [[DeathOfTheAuthor defying]] WordOfGod: Lelouch |
265 | * Cause of Death: Redemption/Sacrifice--3. |
266 | * Genre: I'm going to have to go with 2, considering how much sleight of hand there was with [[spoiler:nuked people]], among others (how did [[spoiler:Suzaku]] survive [[spoiler:his fight with Kallen]], again? Also, [[spoiler:Mao, Charles, Marianne]]). Plus, [[spoiler:C's World and Geass offer enough loopholes for a technically-dead guy to still have a major role]]. |
267 | * Body found: While we, as viewers, don't see a burial or anything, considering the circumstances ([[spoiler:with literally the entire world watching and, later on, sure that he's dead]]) it's likely a 4, though the fact that the most likely scenario of him surviving [[spoiler:would leave a body behind until he BackFromTheDead]] gives a bit of wiggle room between 3 and 4. |
268 | * Reaction: Montage, although in this case [[spoiler:that's kind of watering the EpilepticTrees]], but I'll still call that a 4. For a more lenient interpretation, giving the aforementioned WMG, there's also wiggle room here between 3 and 4. |
269 | * Characterization: [[spoiler:"Protagonist or Archvillain"? Yes.]] 1. |
270 | * When did they die: Died in the series finale, so 4. In the case of a hypothetical third season, the postlogue has a two month timeskip, so, same year. 2 at most. |
271 | * Died and come back: IIRC, never. 4 |
272 | * Total: Given that it was the series finale, 22/7 = 3.14, ie, probably dead. If you figure based on a hypothetical third season or the wiggle room given by the most likely scenario of his return, 20/7 = 2.86 or 19/7 = 2.71, or even 18/7 if you count both, leading to a 2.57, and a solid ''maybe'', ignoring the WordOfGod. might. If you figure without including "time since death:" 18/6 = 3 (...exactly the same as the previous entry. Who came back. I swear I didn't do that on purpose). |
273 | |
274 | So everyone who says [[spoiler:CC was talking to him in the last episode]] has a leg to stand on, though I'm ambivalent over whether or not I like this. |
275 | |
276 | Given the announcement of a sequel movie, I’m gonna test the most heartbreaking death, Euphemia |
277 | * Died by: Gunshot, followed by unsuccessful medical treatment, so I’ll go with [[MortalWoundReveal mortally wounded]] for 3 |
278 | * Genre: IMO, a bit cheap, lots of characters appear to “die” only to come back, C.C, Jeremiah and Mao to name a few, but there have been a few that stuck, so I’ll split the difference and go with 2. |
279 | * Body: Dies on the operating table, so 3 |
280 | * Reaction: [[ItsPersonal Suzaku flat out says he’s going to Murder Zero for this]], so 2 |
281 | * Last Words: Asks Suzaku if the Special Zone was a success, will go with 3 |
282 | * Characterization: Major love interest, ouch, 4 |
283 | * When: Near the end of season 1, and there is a one year skip between seasons, so 3 |
284 | * Died and come back: Unless you count VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ, nope, 4 |
285 | * Add them together: 24/8 = 3, seems unlikely, will probably stay dead |
286 | |
287 | [[/folder]] |
288 | |
289 | [[folder:''Danganronpa'']] |
290 | |
291 | How about the two biggest recipients of HesJustHiding in ''Anime/DanganRonpa3''? |
292 | |
293 | Chiaki Nanami |
294 | * '''Cause of Death''': Tortured to death. 2. |
295 | * '''Audience Expectation''': Generally AnyoneCanDie, but the anime has employed its share of {{Disney Death}}s. Averages out to a 3. |
296 | * '''Body found?''': Technically found by Izuru, but she was still alive at the time. We never actually see what happens to it after that. 2. |
297 | * '''Reaction''': Izuru decides ItsPersonal. 2 |
298 | * '''Last words''': Sobbing about how she doesn't want to die. 3. |
299 | * '''Characterization''': One of the main characters. 1. |
300 | * '''Died and came back?''': Nope. 4 |
301 | * '''Result:''' 17/7 = 2.42. It's okay everyone, she's not really gone. |
302 | |
303 | Juzo Sakukura |
304 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice + RedemptionEqualsDeath. 3. |
305 | * '''Audience Expectation''': See above. 3. |
306 | * '''Body found?''': Found but not buried. 3. |
307 | * '''Reaction''': [[spoiler:Munakata]] weeps over his body. 3. |
308 | * '''Last words''': Gives a big internal heroic monologue about how he wants to save [[spoiler:Munakata]]. 3. |
309 | * '''Characterization''': Regular semi-antagonist. 2. |
310 | * '''Died and came back?''': He was faked out once before, so yeah. 3. |
311 | * '''Result:''' 20/7 = 2.85. There's a chance, but it's a slim one. |
312 | |
313 | For curiosity's sake, let's check the odds of someone who ''did'' come back: |
314 | |
315 | Kyoko Kirigiri |
316 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice 3. |
317 | * '''Audience Expectation''': See above. 3. |
318 | * '''Body found?''': They literally wake up and find it right there, but left it behind shortly after. 3 |
319 | * '''Reaction''': Huge amount of weeping, plus several montage-esque flashbacks. 4. |
320 | * '''Last words''': Encouraging speech and AlwaysWithYou moment. 3. |
321 | * '''Characterization''': Main character. 1. |
322 | * '''Died and came back?''': Nada. 4. |
323 | * '''Result:''' 21/7 = solid 3. Well hey, her odds were actually ''worse'' than the above and she came back, so I guess anything's possible. |
324 | |
325 | [[/folder]] |
326 | |
327 | [[folder:''Date A Live'']] |
328 | |
329 | Shido's first death |
330 | * Cause of death: HeroicSacrifice: 3 |
331 | * Genre: "[[BackFromTheDead Even if he dies, he can start a new game without a penalty]]" to quote Kotori: 1 |
332 | * Body found: Left for dead: 1 |
333 | * Reaction: Three, in fact. Faux death by Kotori, MyGodWhatHaveIDone by Origami, and ItsPersonal by Tohka: 1.5 |
334 | * Last words: "look out!": 4 |
335 | * Characterization: Protagonist: 1 |
336 | * When did they die: Same arc: 1 |
337 | * Died and come back: Not yet: 4 |
338 | * Average: 2.0625 (he comes back minutes later thanks to his healing factor) |
339 | |
340 | Shido's second death |
341 | * Cause of death: Stabbed through the back: 2 |
342 | * Genre: Back from the dead: 1 |
343 | * Body found: left for dead: 1 |
344 | * Reaction: Tohka crosses the DespairEventHorizon. ItsPersonal fits best: 2 |
345 | * Last words: Oh crap: 4 |
346 | * Characterization: Protagonist: 1 |
347 | * When: Same arc: 1 |
348 | * Died and come back: once: 3 |
349 | * Average: 1.875 (again, doesn't take long for the poor bastard to come back to life, much to Miku's confusion) |
350 | |
351 | Jessica Bailey's death |
352 | * Cause of death: PhlebotinumOverdose: 3 |
353 | * Genre: If you're not Shido, you're killed off for real: 3 |
354 | * Body found: DiedInYourArmsTonight, let's go with at the morgue: 3 |
355 | * Reaction: AlasPoorVillain, HesDeadJim fits best: 3 |
356 | * Last words: Hoping she made Wescott happy: 3 |
357 | * Characterization: Recurring character: 3 |
358 | * When: Same year: 2 |
359 | * Died and come back: Nope: 4 |
360 | * Average: 3 but it's doubtful she's coming back. |
361 | |
362 | [[/folder]] |
363 | |
364 | [[folder:''Death Note'']] |
365 | |
366 | Lets test this out on none other than... |
367 | |
368 | L Lawliet. |
369 | * Cause of death: BridgeDrop - 4 |
370 | * Genre: [[spoiler:KilledOffForReal turned into AnyoneCanDie by this]] - 3.5 |
371 | * Body Found: right there - 4 |
372 | * Reaction: [[spoiler:Montage - 4]] |
373 | * Last words: KilledMidSentence - 4 |
374 | * Characterization: [[spoiler:Protagonist, sort of - 1]] |
375 | * When: Same arc - 1 |
376 | * Died and come back: not in Death Note - 4 |
377 | * Average (spoiler tagged to avoid revealing the character via math): [[spoiler:25.5/8 = 3.18. Only dying in sight and being Light's main enemy prevents him from matching the Code Geass character who scored a 4.]] |
378 | |
379 | Film version of L's real death. |
380 | * Cause of death: [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice - 3]] |
381 | * Genre: [[spoiler:KilledOffForReal, would have turned into flat out AnyoneCanDie but he busted Light and ended the Kira case before he died]] - 3.5 |
382 | * Body Found: [[spoiler:Soichiro left L to his death, albeit on his behest, and then there are no more scenes that even mention him, so LeftForDead - 1]] |
383 | * Reaction: [[spoiler:none given - 1]] |
384 | * Characterization: [[spoiler:Protagonist, sort of - 1]] |
385 | * When: Same arc - 1 |
386 | * Died and come back: [[spoiler:he faked his death--the one that really did happen in the manga/anime--to get Light busted - 3]] |
387 | * Average (again, spoiler tagged to avoid revealing the character via math): [[spoiler:16.5/8 = 2.06. Pretty good for a guy who definitely must have died.]] |
388 | |
389 | And Light Yagami in the manga, anime, and film. |
390 | * Cause of death: Bridge Drop and DeathByIrony ([[spoiler:He'd lost, but his death wasn't guaranteed to be part of it]]) - 4 |
391 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
392 | * Body? : Yes - 4 |
393 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
394 | * Last words: [[spoiler:in manga and anime, OhCrap, albeit different - 4; in film, FinalSpeech - 3]] |
395 | * Characterization : [[spoiler:VillainProtagonist - 1]] |
396 | * When- SeriesFinale - 4 |
397 | * Died and come back: No - 4 |
398 | * Average: [[spoiler: 29/8 = 3.625 in manga/anime, 28/8 = 3.5 in film. No, he is not coming back.]] |
399 | |
400 | Mello. |
401 | * Cause of Death: [[spoiler:Sacrifice, 3]] |
402 | * Audience Expectation: AnyoneCanDie, 4 |
403 | * Body Found?: Never Found, 2 |
404 | * Reaction: The closest listed reaction is probably HesDeadJim, 3 |
405 | * Last Words: [[spoiler:Unknown, but his plan was MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning. 1]] |
406 | * Characterization: Recurring Character or Regular, 2.5 |
407 | * When did they die?: Same arc, 1 |
408 | * “Died” and come back?: Not yet, 4 |
409 | * Average: 2.562. Odds aren't too bad. Too bad for him he's [[KilledOffForReal still a]] Death Note [[KilledOffForReal character]]. |
410 | |
411 | Matt. |
412 | * Cause of Death: [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Overkill]] - 4 |
413 | * Audience Expectation: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
414 | * Body Found?: Mostly just LeftForDead, or Never Found - 2, or ''maybe'' a 2.5 |
415 | * Reaction: Closest reaction listed is HesDeadJim - 3 |
416 | * Last Words: [[spoiler: [[KilledMidSentence "You won't shoot-"]]]] - 4 |
417 | * Characterization: [[spoiler: MauveShirt[=/=]RedShirt]] - 4 |
418 | * When did they die?: Same arc, so 1 |
419 | * "Died" and came back?: Nope - 4 |
420 | * Average: 3.25. Pretty damn dead. [[WildMassGuessing Who knows]], maybe [[spoiler: he ''did'' wear a bullet-proof vest after all]]. But given that this is ''Death Note''... |
421 | |
422 | [[/folder]] |
423 | |
424 | [[folder:''Detective Conan'']] |
425 | |
426 | Shuichi Akai |
427 | * Cause: HeroicSacrifice. 3. |
428 | * Genre: While someone dies in most episodes, this never happens to recurring characters, so I'm going with NobodyCanDie. 1. |
429 | * The Body: While they found a body, the identification was somewhat shady and there were apparently some strange things with the body. 3. |
430 | * Reaction: Between Jodie's tears and the symbolism of being unable to reach him by phone, 3. |
431 | * Last Words: The words were direct more at Rena than Akai, which may lower the number? 3. |
432 | * Characterization: RecurringCharacter. 3. |
433 | * When did he die: 2007, so 3. |
434 | * Come Back?: 4. |
435 | * Average: 23/8 = 2.875 |
436 | |
437 | [[/folder]] |
438 | |
439 | [[folder:''Figure 17 Tsubasa & Hikaru'']] |
440 | |
441 | For being a relaxing SliceOfLife show with ScienceFiction to steer the plot, it got [[CerebusSyndrome pretty damn serious]] in the last few episodes. Can the wonders of the aliens' technology save these two particular characters? |
442 | |
443 | First Death: ''Sho Aizawa'' |
444 | * '''Cause of Death''': DroppedABridgeOnHim. 4 |
445 | * '''Audience Expectation''': It '''was''' the first death, and there was no {{Foreshadowing}} either. N/A. |
446 | * '''Body Found''': Yes, a MeaningfulFuneral was held in his honor. 4 |
447 | * '''Reaction''': One character in particular went into a HeroicBSOD for ''weeks'' over this. 4 |
448 | * '''Characterization''': RecurringCharacter. 3 |
449 | * '''When (s)he died''': Same year. 2 |
450 | * '''Died and come back''': Nope. 4 |
451 | * RESULT: 24/7 = 3.43. '''''Ouch'''''! With this death, ImprobableInfantSurvival clearly [[AvertedTrope does not apply]] to this show. He's among the [[DeaderThanDead the most dead]] characters to die within a SliceOfLife narrative. |
452 | |
453 | Second Death: ''Hikaru Shiina'' |
454 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice by HeroicRROD. 3 |
455 | * '''Audience Expectation''': This time, we ''do have'' plenty of {{Foreshadowing}}. Sadly, all signs point to KilledOffForReal. 3 |
456 | * '''Body Found''': [[spoiler: Disintegrated. 4]] |
457 | * '''Reaction''': HesDeadJim. 3 |
458 | * '''Last Words''': FinalSpeech along with GoOutWithASmile. 3 |
459 | * '''Characterization''' [[spoiler: Protagonist. 1]] |
460 | * '''When (s)he died''': GrandFinale. 4 |
461 | * '''Died and come back''': Nope. 4 |
462 | * RESULT: 25/8 = 3.125. '''Highly''' unlikely candidate for revival. |
463 | |
464 | In short, ''do not'' let this fluffy show fool you. These aliens are not miracle workers like many any other shows of its genre would have you think. |
465 | |
466 | [[/folder]] |
467 | |
468 | [[folder:''From the New World'']] |
469 | |
470 | Episode 10 featured the dramatic farewell and death for Shun. Given that he plays such a big role for Group One and that he [[spoiler:always loved Saki]], though, one has to question whether he simply disappeared or really died. Let's find out |
471 | * '''Cause of death''': Swallowed up by the Earth before being [[RetGone retgoned]] from people's memories by the Ethics Committee. I say 4. |
472 | * '''Audience expectation''': Based on a dark YA novel by Yusuke Kishi, the series makes it crystal clear that AnyoneCanDie. 4. |
473 | * '''Body found?''': Saki last saw [[spoiler:Shun]] getting swallowed up into the Earth. The others in Kamisu 66, however, can't find his body. It's probably a 3 (fulfills categories for both a 4 and a 2, so I averaged them). |
474 | * '''Reaction''': [[spoiler: [[SayMyName "SHUN!!!"]]]]. Let's say it's a 3. |
475 | * '''Characterization''': At that point, a regular. He was, however, a LoveInterest for Saki. An average of 3. |
476 | * '''When did they die?''': Took place when Saki was 14 years old. Since the narrator [[spoiler:aka the grown-up Saki]] is a 36 year old woman at the time, however, it's over 22 years in real time. Let's go with 4. |
477 | * '''"Died" and came back?''': Has not reappeared since... 4. |
478 | * '''Average''': 28/8 equals '''3.5.''' Hate to break the news to you Saki, but [[spoiler:Shun]] has been KilledOffForReal. |
479 | |
480 | [[/folder]] |
481 | |
482 | [[folder:''Full Metal Panic!!'']] |
483 | |
484 | Kurz Weber, following the events of the [[LightNovels light novel]] ''Approaching Nick of Time''. |
485 | * Cause of Death: NoOneCouldSurviveThat, albeit with considerable detail spent describing the injuries inflicted by the "that" in question, and some shades of a HeroicSacrifice - 2.5 |
486 | * Genre: The only characters KilledOffForReal thus far have been {{Mauve Shirt}}s, and several regulars have had {{Disney Death}}s, so... - 2 |
487 | * Body Found?: Never Found, as the survivors were forced to withdraw without retrieving it - 3 |
488 | * Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Jim]] - 3 |
489 | * Characterization: Regular - 2 |
490 | * When did they die?: Same year - 2 |
491 | * "Died" and come back?: Had a NoOneCouldSurviveThat back in the first story arc and came out of it injured but alive - 3 |
492 | * Average: 17.5/7 = 2.5. Back Next Novel, we can only hope. |
493 | ** [[spoiler:Not quite, but reports are he makes a comeback in the final novel, ''Always Stand By Me.'']] |
494 | |
495 | [[/folder]] |
496 | |
497 | [[folder:''Fullmetal Alchemist'']] |
498 | |
499 | Maes Hughes |
500 | * Cause: Shot by an impersonator... of his ''wife''. Hello thar, [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop!]] 4. |
501 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie... although with alchemy... 3.5. |
502 | * Body: Funeral and all. 4. |
503 | * Reaction: [[HesDeadJim "Daddy's got work tomorrow!"]] 3. |
504 | * Characterization: Regular. 2. |
505 | * Time of death: Not this year, but not 5 yet. 2.5 |
506 | * BackFromTheDead before? Nope. 4. |
507 | * Average: 4 + 3.5 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 2.5 + 4 = 23/6 = 3.3 If he did come back, in the manga or anime, think Homunculus. However the anime's over and that's not what homunculi are in the manga, so he's pretty much screwed. |
508 | |
509 | Maria Ross, from the manga |
510 | * Cause of death: Burnt to death by Col. Mustang while trying to escape from prison. Classic [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Dropped A Bridge On Her]]. 4 |
511 | * Genre: Going with the Hughes algorithm, AnyoneCanDie... although with alchemy... 3.5 |
512 | * Body: Here's where it gets weird. If you're looking at it from the point where she dies, it's a DeaderThanDead barely recognizable corpse. After she's revealed not dead, it's a [[FakingTheDead fake corpse]]. Let's split it into 2 and 4, averaging it just doesn't make sense. |
513 | * Reaction: S{{hes Dead Jim}}, for good reason. 3 |
514 | * Characterization: I'd say MauveShirt. 3 |
515 | * When?: Same year. 2 |
516 | * Died before?: Nope. 4. |
517 | * Average:4+3.5+4+3+3+2+4/7= about 3.4, which is worse then Hughes. After she's already not dead it becomes 4+3.5+'''2'''+3+3+2+4/7 and exactly 3. Better, but it still doesn't look good, which leads me to believe the SortingAlgorithmofDeadness is wroMMPH. |
518 | ** I think it's just that the algorithm doesn't work when we already ''know'' it's a case of FakingTheDead. |
519 | *** Two problems with that: One, why is FakingTheDead listed as a 2 then, and two, before we knew she was FakingTheDead she was deader then Hughes. |
520 | |
521 | Lust, same. |
522 | * Cause of death: Lit on fire. That's the traditional punishment for lust in Hell, so DeathByIrony. 4 |
523 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal, 3 |
524 | * Body: Vanished, which would technically be never found, but as we explicitly saw her PhilosophersStone get destroyed, DeaderThanDead. 4 |
525 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal from Gluttony. 2. |
526 | * Characterization: Regular. 2 |
527 | * When?: Around last year in-story. 3 |
528 | * Died before?: Nope. 4. |
529 | * Average: 3.14. Pretty dead. Though, given that Ross survived... |
530 | |
531 | Recently in the same: Gluttony. |
532 | * Cause of death: [[spoiler:Absorbed]]. DeathByIrony. 4 |
533 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal as a whole, but given that he's [[spoiler:a homunculus and can be remade]], 2.5 |
534 | * Body: Absorbed and/or disintegrated. Never found. 3 |
535 | * Reaction: A resounding... nothing. No score. |
536 | * Characterization: Regular. 2 |
537 | * When?: Same arc. 1 |
538 | * Died before?: [[spoiler:Once]]. 3. |
539 | * Average: 2.41. Expect him back around the end of the manga, which should be next year. |
540 | |
541 | Not long after that, Kimblee. |
542 | * Cause of death: [[spoiler:Absorbed, while Pride promises to let him see the outcome of the conflict]], DeathByIrony. 4 |
543 | * Genre; KilledOffForReal. 3 |
544 | * Body: Absorbed and/or disintegrated. Never found. 3 |
545 | * Reaction: None. No score |
546 | * Characterization: Regular: 2. |
547 | * When? Same arc. 1 |
548 | * Died before? No. 4. |
549 | * Average: 2.83. Unlikely to return, [[spoiler: at least not in his own body]]. |
550 | |
551 | King Bradley/Wrath. |
552 | * Cause of Death: Jumping (Fell off a bridge after letting go of Ling/Greed) - 1 |
553 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal. 3 |
554 | * Body: Falls into a moat and sinks while still he's still conscious. 3. |
555 | * Reaction: None. No score. |
556 | * Last Words: None. No Score |
557 | * Characterization: Regular antagonist. 2 |
558 | * When? Same arc. 1 |
559 | * Died before? Thought to have perished [[spoiler:in a train bombing]]. 3 |
560 | * Average: 2.167. He's likely to come back soon. |
561 | |
562 | Buccaneer. |
563 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice [[spoiler:to get in a hit on Wrath]]. 3 |
564 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal. 3 |
565 | * Body: Resting with the troops. 4 |
566 | * Reaction: Montage of sorts. 4 |
567 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech. 3 |
568 | * Characterization: MauveShirt. 4 |
569 | * When: Same Arc. 1 |
570 | * Died before? No. 4 |
571 | * Average: 3.25. Almost certainly dead. |
572 | |
573 | Pratically the whole of Amestris minus 7 people. |
574 | * Cause of Death: Overkill [[spoiler: they had their own souls ripped by Father]]. 3 |
575 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal. 3 |
576 | * Body: [[spoiler: Right there]]. 4 |
577 | * Reaction: HesDeadJim[[spoiler: , or rather, EverybodysDeadDave]]. 4 |
578 | * LastWords: [[spoiler: KilledMidSentence and OhCrap]]. 3 |
579 | * Characterization: [[spoiler: Almost everybody]]. Let's make it a 3 |
580 | * When: Same Arc. 1 |
581 | * Died before? No. 4 |
582 | * Average: 3.375. [[spoiler: Let's hope the FirstLawOfResurrection take place!]] [[spoiler: They got their souls back in the next chapter]] |
583 | |
584 | [[/folder]] |
585 | |
586 | [[folder:''Gundam'']] |
587 | |
588 | Because ''someone'' had to try it, Mu La Flaga from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' |
589 | * Cause of Death: It's a HeroicSacrifice, but given that it involved a friggin' ''antimatter cannon'', it's probably also NoOneCouldSurviveThat - 2.5 |
590 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
591 | * Body Found?: Never Found - 3 |
592 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal [[spoiler:Murrue is PISSED]] - 2 |
593 | * Characterization: I'm going to call him a regular - 2 |
594 | * When did they die?: 2 years between ''SEED'' and ''Destiny'' - 2.5 |
595 | * "Died" and come back?: Not yet - 4 |
596 | * Average: 20/7 = 2.86. Not the best prognosis, but Back Next Season isn't unrealistic, and [[spoiler:as of Destiny, he's definitely back.]] |
597 | |
598 | [[/folder]] |
599 | |
600 | [[folder:''[=JoJo=]'s Bizarre Adventure'']] |
601 | |
602 | It's hard to gauge the likelihood of a ''[=JoJo=]'' character coming BackFromTheDead, since this is a series where AnyoneCanDie. However, let's judge Holly Joestar-Kira from ''[=JoJolion=]''. She's not confirmed dead, but she's left in a state where she's unable to recover without any more Locacaca, and since ''The [=JOJOLands=]'' takes place, at minimum, 9 years after Part 8 with no indication of Holly's fate, there's only [[InferredHolocaust so many places]] one's mind can wander off to. |
603 | * Cause of Death: BusCrash is the closest thing, 3. |
604 | * Audience Expectation: AnyoneCanDie, natch. 4. |
605 | * Body Found: Essentially LeftForDead, 1. |
606 | * Reaction: Josuke took it [[ItsPersonal rather personally]], 2. |
607 | * Last Words: Was last seen [[KilledMidSentence collapsing in front of Josuke]], 4. |
608 | * Characterization: Recurring, 3. |
609 | * When: ''[=JoJolion=]'' took 10 years to wrap up, most of which Holly wasn't part of. 3. |
610 | * Died and come back: Unless you count Holly from the pre-''Steel Ball Run'' universe, never. 4 |
611 | * Average: 24/8 = 3. She has the potential to come back, but with Araki being a self-admitted ForgetfulJones, the likelihood is rather low. |
612 | |
613 | Noriaki Kakyoin from ''Stardust Crusaders'' is an infamous case of DoomedByCanon, so gauging his likelihood of return is almost self-fulfilling. |
614 | * Cause of Death: Essentially StuffedIntoTheFridge, as he leaves a DyingClue, 4. |
615 | * Audience Expectation: AnyoneCanDie, natch. 4. |
616 | * Body Found: TorsoWithAView qualifies as ChunkySalsaRule, 4. |
617 | * Reaction: DIO brags about [[HesDeadJim killing Kakyoin]] to Jotaro's face, 3. |
618 | * Last Words: Kakyoin [[HisNameIs hopes for Joseph to understand his message]], 4. |
619 | * Characterization: Regular, 2. |
620 | * When: ''Stardust Crusaders'' wrapped up in 1992; over 30 years ago. 4. |
621 | * Died and come back: Besides appearing in spin-offs, never. 4. |
622 | * Average: 29/8 = 3.625. Safe to say, Kakyoin is never coming back. |
623 | |
624 | Foo Fighters is a big case of HesJustHiding amongst the community, given how {{ambiguous|ending}} the ending of ''Stone Ocean'' is. This can determine whether this fan interpretation holds water. |
625 | * Cause of Death: Initially a HeroicSacrifice, but was changed to RetGone after the ResetButtonEnding. 4. |
626 | * Audience Expectation: AnyoneCanDie, natch. 4. |
627 | * Body Found: Deescalated from a shown corpse to NeverFoundTheBody, 2. |
628 | * Reaction: ReallyDeadMontage that occurs before F.F. dies, 4. |
629 | * Last Words: Dies giving a SedgwickSpeech to Jolyne, 4. |
630 | * Characterization: Regular, 2. |
631 | * When: Died in 2001, ''Stone Ocean'' ended in 2003; 20 years at minimum. 4. |
632 | * Died and come back: The only hero in ''Stone Ocean'' who didn't go through this, 4. |
633 | * Average: 28/8 = 3.5. Very likely they won't end up returning, even considering the circumstances behind ''Stone Ocean''[='=]s ending. |
634 | |
635 | [[/folder]] |
636 | |
637 | [[folder:''K'']] |
638 | |
639 | Yashiro Isana |
640 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice to [[spoiler: kill the Colourless King.]] 3 |
641 | * '''Audience Expectation''': At this point one character has been KilledOffForReal. 3 |
642 | * '''Body Found''': NeverFoundTheBody. 2 |
643 | * '''Last Words''': [[spoiler: only a King can kill another King.]] Pretty much an ObiWanMoment. He's very calm. 3 |
644 | * '''Characterization''': [[spoiler: Protagonist!]] 1 |
645 | * '''When Did They Die''': SeriesFinale. 4 |
646 | * '''Died and Came Back''': Not exactly, but he has been [[spoiler: mortally wounded twice, once by falling out of a blimp and once by being stabbed with a piece of glass, and both times he came back.]] So at the very least, 2 |
647 | ** RESULT: 2.6. He'll be back before we know it. |
648 | |
649 | Mikoto Suoh |
650 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice. [[spoiler: Same reason as Shiro, only he purposefully overextends his power and Munakata has to kill him.]] 3. |
651 | * '''Audience Expectation''': As before, we've had a confirmed death by now. 3 |
652 | * '''Body Found''': A really bizarre combination of LeftForDead - which is what [[spoiler: Munakata]] did - and DeaderThanDead - because his [[spoiler: Sword of Damocles]] dissolved. Hard to score that. |
653 | * '''Reaction''': HesDeadJim, both from [[spoiler: SCEPTER 4 when they see Munakata return, and from all of HOMRA when their tattoos begin to fly away. ItMakesSenseInContext.]] 3. |
654 | * '''Characterization''': RecurringCharacter, but not quite a regular - 3. |
655 | * '''When Did They Die''': SeriesFinale. 4. |
656 | * '''Died and Came Back.''': Not this one. 4. |
657 | * RESULT: 3.3. WordOfGod seems to imply that yeah, he's gone for good. |
658 | |
659 | [[/folder]] |
660 | |
661 | [[folder:''Lyrical Nanoha'']] |
662 | |
663 | Precia Testarossa |
664 | * Cause: She jumped. 1. |
665 | * Genre: Series has had its shares of both KilledOffForReal and DisneyDeath. 2.5. |
666 | * The Body: Fell into a dimensional gap before her castle exploded. 3. |
667 | * LastWords: Brief FinalSpeech to Alicia about going together. 3 |
668 | * Reaction: Mostly Fate being sad. Probably a 3. |
669 | * Characterization: The BigBad for an entire season. 1. |
670 | * When did he die: 12 years and counting in the ''Nanoha'' timeline. 4. |
671 | * Died and come Back: Not yet. 4. |
672 | * '''Average:''' 21.5/8 = 2.68. Expect her to turn up alive and well in a later season, and do a merry tap dance on Fate's self-esteem once again. |
673 | |
674 | Linith of the second Sound Stage of the original series |
675 | * Cause: Arguably a sacrifice; she willingly disappeared from existence per her contract - 3. |
676 | * The Body: Presumably vanished - 3 |
677 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal / Disney Death 2.5 |
678 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech saying goodbye to everyone - 3 |
679 | * Reaction: HesDeadJim Precia wonders if things were meant to end this way, and Fate and Arf understand that she's gone for good - 3 |
680 | * Characterization: LovedOne for Fate. - 4 |
681 | * When did she die?: Two years before the main series, making it 12 before ''[[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaStrikers StrikerS]]'' and 18 before Force. -4 |
682 | * Died and come back: No. - 4 |
683 | * '''Average''': 26.5/8= 3.31. |
684 | |
685 | For comparison, the Wolkenritter in Episode 9 of A's |
686 | * Cause: [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]] (Ambushed and killed) - 4 |
687 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal / DisneyDeath. 2.5 |
688 | * The Body: Absorbed into the Book of Darkness, but Signum and Shamal's coats are left behind - 3. |
689 | * LastWords: OhCrap - 4 |
690 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal by the Book of Darkness - 3 |
691 | * Characterization - Arguably the {{Hero Antagonist}}s of the series, but in this case, they serve as Hayate's Loved Ones - 4 |
692 | * When did they die: Same night as they were brought back - 1 |
693 | * Died and come back: Presumably many times. 4 |
694 | * '''Average''': 25.5/8= 3.18 |
695 | |
696 | The original Reinforce |
697 | * Cause: HeroicSacrifice to allow Hayate and the Wolkenritter to live. 3 |
698 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal / DisneyDeath: 2.5 |
699 | * Body: Disappears into light and leaves behind a small powerless fragment -4. |
700 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech thanking everyone and saying goodbye. 3 |
701 | * Characterization: [[AntiVillain Unwilling]] BigBad of Season 2. - 1 |
702 | * When did she die: 14 years ago - 4 |
703 | * Died and come back: No. - 4 |
704 | * Average 21.5/8 = 2.68 |
705 | |
706 | [[spoiler:Signum]] in Force |
707 | * Cause of Death: Overkill (Slashed twice, dropped from a height, and stabbed through the chest with a sword)- 4 |
708 | * Genre- DisneyDeath/ Killed Of For Real - 2.5 |
709 | * Body: Potentially LeftForDead, as her apparent killer thinks she's dead- 3 |
710 | * Characterization: Secondary character – 2 |
711 | * LastWords: OhCrap – 4 |
712 | * Reaction: None so far, but potentially building up to ItsPersonal – Tentative 3 |
713 | * When: Same Arc – 1 |
714 | * DiedAndCameBack? Once that we know of, albeit by a way that is no longer possible for her – 3 |
715 | * Average: 22.5/8 = 2.67 |
716 | |
717 | [[/folder]] |
718 | |
719 | [[folder:''Macross'']] |
720 | |
721 | Alto Saotome (Movie version) |
722 | * Cause of Death: NoOneCouldSurviveThat, [[spoiler:The YF-29 was found wrecked without its pilot, there was a catastrophic explosion mid-fold, so at best he ejected into the fold, wherever that went...]] - 2 |
723 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal, generally what happens to characters in Macross, but never to the point of AnyoneCanDie - 3 |
724 | * Body Found: NeverFoundTheBody - 2 |
725 | * Reaction: HesJustHiding, [[spoiler:Ranka, at least, believes he'll be back]] - 1 |
726 | * Last Words: FinalSpeech, [[spoiler:DyingDeclarationOfLove]] - 3 |
727 | * Characterization: [[spoiler:TheHero]] - 1 |
728 | * Died: [[spoiler:SeriesFinale]] - 4 |
729 | * Died and come back: Not yet, in fact this almost never happens in the franchise ([[spoiler:It's possible to consider that he has already come back once, but that was in the series]]) - 4 |
730 | * Result: 20/8 = [[ArcNumber 2.5]]. Wow. Well played, [[{{Troll}} Kawamori]], well played indeed. |
731 | |
732 | For comparison, Alto Saotome (Series version) at the end of Episode 24 |
733 | * Cause of Death: NoOneCouldSurviveThat, [[spoiler:Brera drills a hole straight through Alto's VF-171EX, which spins out of control on fire, then explodes]] - 2 |
734 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
735 | * Body Found: [[spoiler:FauxDeath, he ejected]] - 1 |
736 | * Reaction: Roughly ItsPersonal, [[spoiler:Sheryl screaming out his name when she sees his Valkyrie explode, complete with PastelChalkedFreezeFrame. There is argument for a 4 with Brera's PreMortemOneLiner]] - 2 |
737 | * Last Words: [[spoiler:"Klan!" This possibly constitutes a KilledMidSentence, so we'll go with that in exchange for the 2 above]] - 4 |
738 | * Characterization: [[spoiler:TheHero]] - 1 |
739 | * Died: [[spoiler:Just before the last episode]] - 1 |
740 | * Died and come back: [[spoiler:Hadn't yet]] - 4 |
741 | * Result: 18/8 = 2.25. [[spoiler:He got better, beginning of Episode 25 shows that he ejected right before Brera shot his plane down, so in the movies he's only slightly more dead than he was in the series where he came back the next episode. Almost exactly as dead if you count him coming back in the series continuity.]] |
742 | |
743 | Also, Mikhail Blanc (Series version) |
744 | * Cause of Death: Overkill, [[spoiler:ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice and ThrownOutTheAirlock, also a hefty dose of HeroicSacrifice]] - 4 |
745 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
746 | * Body Found: Dead and Buried - 4 |
747 | * Reaction: ReallyDeadMontage - 4 |
748 | * Last Words: FinalSpeech, [[spoiler:DyingDeclarationOfLove, uh oh]] - 3 |
749 | * Characterization: {{Regular}} - 2 |
750 | * Died: Dead at SeriesFinale, [[spoiler:Never came back during the series, though he survives the movie retelling]] - 4 |
751 | * Died and come back: Nope, well... [[spoiler:Came back in the movie retelling, which he survives]] - 4 |
752 | * Result: 28/8 = 3.5. [[spoiler:Good thing for him he got the movies for a do-over]]. |
753 | |
754 | And then, Mikhail Blanc (Movie version) |
755 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice, [[spoiler:He broke from cover so he could snipe the Super Vajra and save [[TheHero Alto]]]] - 3 |
756 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
757 | * Body Found: [[spoiler:FauxDeath]], [[spoiler:Klan finds him alive in the wreckage]] - 1 |
758 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal, [[spoiler:Klan goes RoaringRampageOfRevenge on the Vajra (Off-screen unfortunately)]] - 2 |
759 | * Last Words: OhCrap - 4 |
760 | * Characterization: {{Regular}} - 2 |
761 | * Died: Same movie - 1 |
762 | * Died and come back: Nope, well... [[spoiler:He sorta comes back in the movie version, but that was to be expected of a retelling]] - 4 |
763 | * Result: 20/8 = 2.5. [[spoiler:And he came back! There is hope for him!]] |
764 | |
765 | [[/folder]] |
766 | |
767 | [[folder:''Muhyo and Roji'']] |
768 | |
769 | Teeki. |
770 | * Cause: Body mostly disintegrated and soul taken to eternal torment - 4. |
771 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
772 | * Reaction: HesDeadJim - 3 |
773 | * BodyFound: Taken away to be tormented - 4 |
774 | * LastWords: OhCrap - 4 |
775 | * Characterization: Archvillain - 1 |
776 | * When: End of most recent arc - 1 |
777 | * Died and came back?: Once ([[spoiler:not his actual death, but being mostly disintegrated and attempting to possess Enchu]]) - 3 |
778 | * Score: 23/8= 2.875 |
779 | |
780 | [[/folder]] |
781 | |
782 | [[folder:''Naruto'']] |
783 | |
784 | Orochimaru |
785 | * Cause of Death: Bridged dropped ''twice'' - 4 |
786 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
787 | * Body: Mostly gone, but partially recycled - 3 |
788 | * LastWords: OhCrap the first time, KilledMidSentence the second time - 4 |
789 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
790 | * Characterization: Archvillain, albeit one clearly getting the shaft from the SortingAlgorithmOfEvil - 1 |
791 | * When: Over a year ago - 2 |
792 | * Previous "death": Once - 3 |
793 | * Average: 24/8 = 3; Well, we'll most assuredly be seeing ''part'' of him again. |
794 | |
795 | Jiraiya |
796 | * Cause of Death: Indirect HeroicSacrifice - 3 |
797 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
798 | * Body: Not found as it sank into the water, but confirmed as fatally injured in ''multiple'' ways before being forced to be left behind - 4 |
799 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech, an internal monologue composing much of Chapter 383 and some brief parting thoughts in Chapter 384- 3. |
800 | * Reaction: Flashback to expirience with old family friend - 4 |
801 | * Characterization: RecurringCharacter - 3 |
802 | * When: Over a year ago - 2 |
803 | * Previous "death": No - 4 |
804 | * Average: 26/8 = 3.25; Screwed. |
805 | |
806 | By comparison, here's the analysis for Neji and Choji in the Sasuke Retrieval Arc |
807 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3 (both were willing to give their lives to defeat their foes) |
808 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
809 | * Body: Left For Dead - 1 |
810 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech - 3 |
811 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
812 | * Characterization: RecurringCharacter for Choji, Regular for Neji - 3, 2 |
813 | * When: Same Arc - 1 |
814 | * Previous "death": No - 4 |
815 | * Averages: |
816 | ** Choji: 22/8= 2.75 |
817 | ** Neji: 21/8= 2.625 |
818 | |
819 | Both survived despite being thought dead for long periods of time, but partly as a result of being LeftForDead, their odds were better than any of the recently "killed" characters except [[spoiler:Hinata]], who scored a 2.75 at first, and a 2.5 after her "body" score was factored in. [[spoiler:She was the only one of the four characters who were seemingly killed in Pain's invasion who wasn't really dead]]. |
820 | |
821 | Retrospective examination of Hinata |
822 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3 |
823 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal at the time - 3 |
824 | * Body Found?: Left for Dead - 1 |
825 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2 |
826 | * Characterization: Regular - 2 |
827 | * When: Same arc - 1 |
828 | * Died and come back? No - 4 |
829 | * Final Analysis: 19/8 = 2.375. Better odds than most, which is why [[spoiler:she survived prior to the mass resurrection]]. |
830 | |
831 | By contrast, Kakashi |
832 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3 |
833 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3 |
834 | * Body Found?: Yes - 3 |
835 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
836 | * LastWords: Final internal monologue - 4 |
837 | * Characterization: Regular - 2 |
838 | * When: Same arc - 1 |
839 | * Died and come back? No - 4 |
840 | * Final Analysis: 24/8 = 3 [[spoiler:Died and was resurrected]] |
841 | |
842 | And for Sasuke in the Land of Waves arc |
843 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (despite claims to contrary) - 3 |
844 | * Genre: DisneyDeath (first character to "die") - 2 |
845 | * Body: Found, thought to be dead - 4 |
846 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
847 | * Characterization: Regular/Protagonist - 1.5 |
848 | * When: Same arc - 1 |
849 | * Previous "death": No - 4 |
850 | * Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81 |
851 | |
852 | Now, Karin (score subject to change in coming chapters) |
853 | * Cause of Death: Can best be described as a combination of DroppedABridgeOnHim and DeathByIrony. - 4 |
854 | * Genre: Currently hovering between KilledOffForReal and DisneyDeath. - 2.5 |
855 | * Body: (([[spoiler:About to a receive a CoupDeGrace]]) - No score |
856 | * Reaction: Flashback. - 3 |
857 | * Characterization: RecurringCharacter - 3 |
858 | * When: Same arc - 1 |
859 | * Previous "death": No - 4 |
860 | * Average: 20.5/7 = 2.93. [[spoiler: She lives]]. |
861 | |
862 | Nagato/Pain |
863 | * Cause of Death: Redemption. 3 |
864 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal. 3 |
865 | * Body: Dead and buried (in paper). 4 |
866 | * Reaction: Flashback. 4 |
867 | * Last words: Final speech. 3 |
868 | * Characterization: [[spoiler:Faux archvillian]] 1.5 |
869 | * When: A couple of arcs ago. 2 |
870 | * Previous "death": No. 4 |
871 | * Average: 3.06. Not likely, especially given the recent events concerning Madara and Konan. |
872 | |
873 | [[/folder]] |
874 | |
875 | [[folder:''Neon Genesis Evangelion'']] |
876 | |
877 | The cast minus Asuka and Shinji |
878 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie -- not good. |
879 | * Bodies? Disintegrated, which could be read [[NeverFoundTheBody Never Found]]-- optimistic. |
880 | * Characterization? Spans the spectrum, but the [[ContractualImmortality male and female lead]] are not among them. |
881 | * Finally, cause: CreatorBreakdown -- They're all doomed. |
882 | * Okay, seriously, average: 3. They're doomed. |
883 | |
884 | Rei |
885 | * Cause: N/A |
886 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie. 4 |
887 | * Body: Well we never see it die as such. It sort of just vanishes. So either a 1 or NA. |
888 | * Reaction: Seeing visions of her, meh. Difficult to say. I'll put down NA, as the main character doesn't seem to care. |
889 | * Characterization: Protagonist. 4 |
890 | * How long ago: Over 5, so 4. |
891 | * Died and came back: I've lost count. 1. (to be fair, she did have a cloning system, but at the end she was at the power of a living god, so I'd put it as the same) |
892 | * 14/5 = 2.8. Deadish. |
893 | |
894 | Actually got a different result for ''Evangelion.'' |
895 | * Cause Of Death: depends on the character. On the whole, more RedemptionEqualsDeath than anything else. |
896 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie--not good. |
897 | * Body: It's ''right there,'' '''alive''', just melted down into orange drink. LeftForDead. |
898 | * Reaction: not really applicable. |
899 | * Characterisation: ''everyone on the planet''. That strikes me as fairly regular. And the archvillain. And most of the protagonists. I'll give this one a 2. |
900 | * Average: 2.5. |
901 | |
902 | [[/folder]] |
903 | |
904 | [[folder:''One Piece'']] |
905 | |
906 | While hardly anyone ever dies in ''Manga/OnePiece'', here's an analysis on Kuina's death to see if she somehow survived and grew up to be Tashigi |
907 | * Cause of Death: Bridge Drop (falls down the stairs) - 4 |
908 | * Genre: Typically DeathIsCheap, but flashbacks are KilledOffForReal - 3 |
909 | * Body: Shown in the manga, but not in the anime - 4 |
910 | * Characterization: [[DisposableWoman Loved One]] - 4 |
911 | * Reaction: HesDeadJim - 3 |
912 | * Died: 5-10+ Years Ago - 4 |
913 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
914 | * Average: 3.73. Dead and buried, and NOT Tashigi. |
915 | ** Unless, of course, Oda deliberately wrote it so that it's only what he WANTS us to think. Considering the series' ever-growing JustForFun/HolyShitQuotient...until he reveals what the deal with Tashigi is, it's impossible to really know what exactly is going on. |
916 | |
917 | Now here's a comparsion between Bellemere's death in 4kids and the original |
918 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3 |
919 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal for flashbacks in the original, Death is Cheap in 4kids - 3, 1 |
920 | * Body: Shown in the anime, Left For Dead in 4kids (they don't take her away) - 4, 1 |
921 | * Characterization: [[DeathByOriginStory Loved One]] - 4 |
922 | * Reaction: Montage in original, - 4 |
923 | * Died: 5-10+ years ago - 4 |
924 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
925 | * Average: 3.73 in the original, which all but precludes her coming back. In the 4kids version, she gets a 3, which is fairly tall odds against her return. |
926 | |
927 | Gin |
928 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (gives Luffy his gas mask) - 3 |
929 | * Genre: Death Is Cheap - 1 |
930 | * Body: LeftForDead (sails off fatally poisoned)- 1 |
931 | * Reaction: None |
932 | * Characterization: CListFodder - 3 |
933 | * Died: Probably around a year ago, since it's not in the same arc- 2 |
934 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
935 | * Average: 2.33. He could return, as some characters from East Blue already have. |
936 | |
937 | Jaguar D. Saul |
938 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (dies defending a young Robin) - 3 |
939 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal in Flashbacks -3 |
940 | * Body: Frozen - 2 |
941 | * Reaction: Shock - 2 |
942 | * Characterization: LovedOne - 4 |
943 | * Died: Over 20 years ago- 4 |
944 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
945 | * Average: 3.14. Despite the potential for ambiguity in how he died, he won't likely come back. |
946 | |
947 | Mr. 9 and Miss Monday |
948 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (buying time for Vivi to escape) - 3 |
949 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
950 | * Body: None shown - 3 |
951 | * Characterization: MauveShirt (not much stronger or more important to Baroque Works than the [[Mook Billions]]) -4 |
952 | * Reaction: Shock - 2 |
953 | * Died: Last year - 2 |
954 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
955 | * Average: 2.42. While their score isn't that bad, they aren't likely to come back after this long. |
956 | * ( In the newest chapter cover their ALIVE AND MARRIED) |
957 | |
958 | And just for fun, let's see how [[DemBones Brook]] scores |
959 | * [[JustForFun/HowToKillACharacter Cause Of Death]]: NoOneCouldSurviveThat - Technically he didn't. - 2 |
960 | * Genre: KilledOffForReal or DeathIsCheap - This is the main thing. Brook died in a flashback, but he ate a Devil's Fruit that brought him back to life. - 3/1 |
961 | * Body: DeaderThanDead or LeftForDead - You can't get much deader than a skeleton, but he IS alive now. - 4/1 |
962 | * Characterization: Protagonist - He's a Straw Hat now. - 1 |
963 | * Reaction: Montage or [[WakingUpAtTheMorgue Waking Up]] - He died in a flashback, but he pretty much woke back up where his body was left. - 4/1 |
964 | * Died: Last Year - A year had gone by the time his soul got back to his body. - 2 |
965 | * Previous Death: Once, but got better- Devil's Fruit brught him back. - 3 |
966 | * Average: Brook's score is a bit of a doozy, depending on how you're working the score. If you count the fact that the man died in a flashback with a montage and that he's deader than dead, you're going to get '2.71'. If you go by the fact that death is cheap and he woke up on the boat where he had been left, you get '1.57'. This would probably best handled by averaging those scores and putting it at '2.14'. Being that he's currently alive, it make this moot, but you gotta wonder. |
967 | |
968 | Mr. 2, comparing his most recent "death" and his previous one |
969 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice ( Both times, [[spoiler:stayed behind to help Luffy and his allies escape]]) 3 |
970 | * Genre : DeathIsCheap (It's not a flashback) - 1 |
971 | * Body: LeftForDead - Fighting doomed battles and dies out of sight of the protagonists - 1 |
972 | * LastWords: FinalSpeech - 3 |
973 | * Reaction: Tearful farewell, acknowledging his loss - 3 |
974 | * Characterization: Recurring character - 3 |
975 | * Died: Last year for previous death, same arc for this death - 2, 1 |
976 | * Previous Death: Assumed to have died once before - 3, 4 in his original "death" |
977 | * Average: 2.25 this time, 2.5 the previous time. He could survive this time, too, given how similar the circumstances are. |
978 | |
979 | Now here's an interesting experiment to see how likely it is for Oda to kill off a character in the present timeline. |
980 | |
981 | Little Oars Junior |
982 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3 |
983 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
984 | * Body: Troops are crossing over it - 4 |
985 | * LastWords: Final Speech - 3 |
986 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal - 3 |
987 | * Characterization: MauveShirt - 4. |
988 | * Died: Current arc - 1 |
989 | * Previous Death: None - 4. |
990 | * Average: 2.875. Could very well be dead. |
991 | |
992 | A particularly spoilerrific case, let's see if this will stick: |
993 | |
994 | Portgas D. Ace |
995 | * Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice ([[spoiler: took a fatal blow meant for Luffy]]) - 3 |
996 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
997 | * Body: lying there [[spoiler: with a big hole through most of his torso]] - 4 |
998 | * LastWords: Final Speech - 3 |
999 | * Reaction: ReallyDeadMontage - 4 |
1000 | * Characterization: Loved One ([[spoiler: protagonist's (adopted) brother]]) - 4 |
1001 | * Died: current arc - 1 |
1002 | * Previous Death: none - 4 |
1003 | * Average: 24/8 = 3. I doubt even Ivankov could be able to heal his injuries; unlike Pell, this is likely to be permanent. |
1004 | |
1005 | Whitebeard |
1006 | * Cause of Death: Overkill ([[spoiler:shot and stabbed repeatedly]]), - 4 |
1007 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1, although this might break the trend. |
1008 | * Body: Present, [[spoiler:standing up]] - 4 |
1009 | * LastWords Final Speech - 3 |
1010 | * Reaction: ReallyDeadMontage - 4 |
1011 | * Characterization: Recurring character - 3 |
1012 | * Died: current arc- 1 |
1013 | * Previous death: none - 4 |
1014 | * Average: 24/8 = 3. About as dead as [[spoiler:Luffy's brother]]. |
1015 | |
1016 | Hey, let's try it for Pell. |
1017 | * Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrific. 3 |
1018 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap. 1 |
1019 | * Body: Supposedly disentigrated by bomb, never found. 3 |
1020 | * LastWords: Final Speech. 3 |
1021 | * Reaction: Sort of a montage, so 3. |
1022 | * Characterization: Loved one (not romantic but pretty important to Vivi). 4 |
1023 | * Died: Sort of the same arc, though it was pretty much after it ended so... 1.5. |
1024 | * Previous death: None. 4 |
1025 | * Average: 22.5/8 = 2.8. So he beat [[spoiler:Ace and Whitebeard]] by about .2 points. Possible explanation for why he lived and they didn't? |
1026 | |
1027 | Vice-Admiral Vergo |
1028 | * Cause of Death: Crippled, then left in a building that's about to blow up. NoOneCouldSurviveThat - 2 |
1029 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
1030 | * Body: LeftForDead - 1 |
1031 | * Characterization: Prominent ArcVillain - 3 |
1032 | * Last Words: None really, but a confident smile that Doflamingo would avenge him. Closest to a 3. |
1033 | * Reaction: None; no score |
1034 | * Died: Same arc - 1 |
1035 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
1036 | * Average: 2.14. Most likely made it out (somehow). |
1037 | |
1038 | Monet |
1039 | * Cause of Death: Remotely stabbed in the heart - 2 |
1040 | * Genre: DeathIsCheap - 1 |
1041 | * Body: LeftForDead - 1 |
1042 | * Characterization: Prominent ArcVillain - 3 |
1043 | * Last Words: Closest to "Carry on men". - 3. |
1044 | * Reaction: None; no score |
1045 | * Died: Same arc - 1 |
1046 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
1047 | * Average: 2.14. Also most likely alive.. |
1048 | |
1049 | [[/folder]] |
1050 | |
1051 | [[folder:''Pokémon'']] |
1052 | |
1053 | Hunter J. |
1054 | * Cause of death: In a ship underwater that has been flooded, then explodes: Overkill Bridge Drop for sure and shew is pretty much the only person on the show who tries to flat out kill people so death is fitting, 4 |
1055 | * Genre: Pokemon is pretty light on the deaths, I can't recall anyone (else) that died in the anime (excluding characters who first appear as ghosts and die in their backstory). 1.5 |
1056 | * Body: Her glasses float to the surface, so never found, but they are oddly intact for, you know, being in an explosion. 2.5 |
1057 | * Last Words: Don't think there were any |
1058 | * Reaction: No one notes it. |
1059 | * Characterization: Recurring villain. 2 |
1060 | * Death: Same year: 2 |
1061 | * Died yet: nope 4: |
1062 | * total 16 with 6 applied categories: 2.6. She deserves a few more points for being the only person on the show to to actually try to kill Ash and co. Most she would ever get is a [[SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute Pokemon hunter K]]. |
1063 | |
1064 | Let’s do one for the characters that bit the bullet in the movies… |
1065 | |
1066 | Dr. Fuji of ''Anime/PokemonTheFirstMovie''. |
1067 | * Cause: Killed by his own creation, 4 |
1068 | * Genre: Ditto, 1.5 |
1069 | * Body: Most likely a bloody pulp after the lab explosion, 4 |
1070 | * Reaction: Not much of one was given by Mewtwo, 4 |
1071 | * Characterization: He had some characterization, but not enough to pull him out of MauveShirt territory, 4 |
1072 | * When: At least a decade ago for viewers, but given that Ash is still ten years of age, less time may have passed in-universe, 3 |
1073 | * Died Yet: Nope, 4 |
1074 | * 28/7 = 3.5. This doc's a goner. |
1075 | |
1076 | Latios of ''Anime/PokemonHeroes''. |
1077 | * Cause: Sacrificed himself to save Alto Mare, 3 |
1078 | * Genre: See above, 1.5 |
1079 | * Body: We seen him drown, but his spirit now resides in the new Soul Dew, which is essentially a SoulJar, 2 |
1080 | * Last Words: Probably along the lines of, “Fly you fools!”, 2 |
1081 | * Reaction: He was given what’s more or less a funeral and montage thanks to his sight seeing with his sister, 4 |
1082 | * Characterization: One of the legendary co-stars in the film, and is a fairly popular legendary, but not necessary an EnsembleDarkhorse, 2 |
1083 | * When: See the above, 3 |
1084 | * Died Yet: Nope, 4 |
1085 | * 21.5 / 8 = 2.69 The door is open to the possibility that the Latios in the 18th movie will be in fact the Guardian of Alto Mare, but the chance isn't too big. |
1086 | |
1087 | [[/folder]] |
1088 | |
1089 | [[folder:''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'']] |
1090 | |
1091 | Mami Tomoe |
1092 | * Cause of death: DeathByIrony, for totally blowing off [[spoiler:Homura's]] warning, overkill - 4 |
1093 | * Genre: Quickly shaping up to AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
1094 | * Body found: Not found, but we see it hit the ground ''very messily'' before it fades, and her [[spoiler:teacup]] both shatters and we don't see her soul gem, so - 3 |
1095 | * Reaction: Abject horror, ReallyDeadMontage - 4 |
1096 | * Last words: Doesn't say anything, but her face is very much OhCrap - 4 |
1097 | * Characterization: [[MentorOccupationalHazard Mentor]] - 4 |
1098 | * Died: Same year - 2 |
1099 | * Died and come back: Not yet - 4 |
1100 | * Result: 25/7 = 3.57. ''Very'' unlikely to come back. |
1101 | |
1102 | Kyoko Sakura |
1103 | * Cause of death: HeroicSacrifice (Arguably SenselessSacrifice too, but...) 3. |
1104 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
1105 | * Body found: Hard to say. We see her soul gem break, [[spoiler: and apparently it wasn't what we ''thought'' her soul gem was]], but all we see after that is a massive explosion. Let's say 2.5 |
1106 | * Reaction: HesDeadJim, from [[spoiler: Homura]]. 3. |
1107 | * Characterization: She's been pretty much a regular since her first appearance. 2 |
1108 | * Died: Same year - 2 |
1109 | * Died and come back: Not yet - 4 |
1110 | * Result: 23.5/7 = 3.36. Not good odds. |
1111 | |
1112 | Oktavia von Seckendorff |
1113 | * Cause of death: NoOneCouldSurviveThat, what with the giant explosion. 2. |
1114 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
1115 | * Body found: Massive explosion. We didn't even see [[spoiler: the Grief Seed]]. 2. |
1116 | * Reaction: Apparently HesDeadJim, from [[spoiler: Homura]]. 3. |
1117 | * Characterization: [[spoiler: She's more or less a major protagonist, turned monster]]. 1.5 |
1118 | * Died: Same year - 2 |
1119 | * Died and come back: 3.5 [[spoiler: Technically her human body died when she became a witch.]] |
1120 | * Result: 18/7 = 2.5. [[spoiler: OhCrap]]. |
1121 | |
1122 | Sayaka Miki |
1123 | * Cause of death: DroppedABridgeOnHim - 4 |
1124 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
1125 | * Found The Body?: Yes. And it's buried. - 4 |
1126 | * Reaction: HesDeadJim - 3 |
1127 | * Characterization: [[spoiler: Protagonist -]] 1 |
1128 | * Died: Same Year - 2 |
1129 | * Died and Came Back: Nope, never. - 4 |
1130 | * Result: 25/7 = 3.5... Damn. [[spoiler: Her Witch got off lucky.]] |
1131 | |
1132 | Madoka Kaname |
1133 | * Cause of death: {{RetGone}} - 4 |
1134 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4 |
1135 | * Found The Body?: Absolutely impossible - 4 |
1136 | * Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2 |
1137 | * Characterization: [[spoiler: the titular character herself]] - 1 |
1138 | * Died: SeriesFinale - 4 |
1139 | * Died and Came Back: Impossible yet again - 4 |
1140 | * Result: 26/8 = 3.25... ApocalypseWow indeed! It was so WorthIt, though. |
1141 | |
1142 | [[/folder]] |
1143 | |
1144 | [[folder:''School-Live!'']] |
1145 | |
1146 | Here is a cute SliceOfLife SchoolgirlSeries, so [[TemptingFate how certain can the deaths actually be]]? |
1147 | |
1148 | Character one: Megumi "Megu-nee" Sakura |
1149 | * '''Cause of Death''': HeroicSacrifice. 3 |
1150 | * '''Audience Expectation''': AnyoneCanDie -- This is an absolute given since Creator/{{Nitroplus}} wrote the anime's script and one of its members produced the original manga. 4 |
1151 | * '''Body found?''': Yes, it's witnessed and confirmed on screen. 3 |
1152 | * '''Reaction''': MeaningfulFuneral -- The cross on the roof was meant for this character. 4 |
1153 | * '''Last Words''': ObiWanMoment. 3 |
1154 | * '''Characterization''': '''''Loved one!''''' 4 |
1155 | * '''When (s)he died''': Same year. 2 |
1156 | * '''Died and came back?''': Technically no, but she [[CameBackWrong did come back in horrifying fashion]] and was eventually put down for good. 4 |
1157 | * RESULT: 27/8 = 3.375... '''Okay''', ''what the hell?!'' This is supposed to be a "[[{{Iyashikei}} healing anime]]", [[MemeticMutation right]]?! '''[[SubvertedTrope Wrong]]'''! |
1158 | |
1159 | Character two: Taroumaru in the anime version |
1160 | * '''Cause of Death''': StuffedIntoTheFridge essentially. 4 |
1161 | * '''Audience Expectation''': AnyoneCanDie. 4 |
1162 | * '''Body found?''': Yes. The death happens on screen, and the body is given yet another MeaningfulFuneral. 4 |
1163 | * '''Reaction''': ReallyDeadMontage -- ''Everyone'' recalls the times they spent with this character. 4 |
1164 | * '''Characterization''': Another loved one. 4 |
1165 | * '''When (s)he died''': [[GrandFinale "Graduation" Day]]. 4 |
1166 | * '''Died and came back?''': Again, not a technical death the first time, but the second leaves no question. 4 |
1167 | * RESULT: 31/8 = '''''3.875'''''! Seriously, Creator/{{Nitroplus}} actually ''would do it''. Tempting them is SchmuckBait at best! |
1168 | |
1169 | [[/folder]] |
1170 | |
1171 | [[folder:''Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann'']] |
1172 | |
1173 | Nia |
1174 | * Cause of Death: Technically, NoOntologicalInertia. There is some aspects of MortalWoundReveal [[spoiler:since it was revealed during the final battle she would die if the Anti-Spiral died]]; however, it comes out as a [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Bridge Drop]] to some fans. Guess I'll make it 3. |
1175 | * Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4. [[spoiler:At this point [[BigGood Kamina]], [[TheLancer Kittan]] and all the secondary mecha pilots aside from Yoko and Viral have already died.]] |
1176 | * Body Found: Disintegrated - 4 |
1177 | * Reaction: This is a hard one. I guess it is closest to HesDeadJim, giving it a 3. |
1178 | * Last Words: Kind of an ObiWanMoment since [[spoiler:she just smiled, said se loves Simon and then [[DisappearsIntoLight Disappeared Into Light]].]] - 3 |
1179 | * Characterization: Loved One - 4 |
1180 | * Died: SeriesFinale - 4 |
1181 | * Died and came back: Did not - 4 |
1182 | * Result: 29/8 = 3.625. Hoo boy. She's pretty much DeaderThanDead. |
1183 | |
1184 | [[/folder]] |
1185 | |
1186 | [[folder:''Yu Yu Hakusho'']] |
1187 | |
1188 | Here's some cases in Yu Yu Hakusho that shows some values are more important than others. |
1189 | |
1190 | ''Genkai's first death'' |
1191 | * Cause of Death: Quasi-Heroic Sacrifice, [[spoiler:died fighting Toguro]], although technically StuffedIntoTheFridge - 3 |
1192 | * Genre: BackFromTheDead - 1 |
1193 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
1194 | * Body: Found, handed over to Koenma - 4 |
1195 | * Characterization: Regular - 2 |
1196 | * Died: Same Arc - 1 |
1197 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
1198 | * Average: 2.71. Initially unlikely to come back [[spoiler:but did]] |
1199 | |
1200 | ''Genkai's second death'' |
1201 | * Cause of Death: Natural causes, somewhat sudden Bridge Drop, since she was alive and well in the previous chapters - 4 |
1202 | * Genre: BackFromTheDead - 1. |
1203 | * Reaction: Funeral seen some time later - 4. |
1204 | * Body: Not applicable, we didn't see her die |
1205 | * Characterization: Regular - 2 |
1206 | * Died: 10+ Years Ago - 4 |
1207 | * Previous Death: Yes. 3 |
1208 | * Average: 3. Unlikely to come back if Yu Yu Hakusho gets a sequel series. |
1209 | |
1210 | '''Yusuke''' |
1211 | * Cause of Death: Bridge Drop/Failed Heroic Sacrifice - 3.5 |
1212 | * Genre: BackFromTheDead - 1 |
1213 | * Reaction: Entire episode about death - 4 |
1214 | * Body: Yes - 4 |
1215 | * Characterization: Protagonist, which is lampshaded - 1 |
1216 | * Died: ''First episode'' - 1 |
1217 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
1218 | * Average: 18.5/7 = 2.64. |
1219 | |
1220 | '''Yusuke (second time)''' |
1221 | * Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice ([[spoiler: Let Sensui kill him in order to give his friends motivation]]) - 3 |
1222 | * Genre: BackFromTheDead - 1 |
1223 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
1224 | * Body: Shown - 4 |
1225 | * Characterization Protagonist - 1 |
1226 | * Died: Same arc - 1 |
1227 | * Previous Death: Yes - 3 |
1228 | * Average: 17/7= 2.42. |
1229 | |
1230 | Kuwabara |
1231 | * Cause of Death: Heroic Sacrifice - 3 |
1232 | * Genre: BackFromTheDead - 1 |
1233 | * Reaction: Montage - 4 |
1234 | * Body: Shown - 4 |
1235 | * Characterization: Protagonist - 1 |
1236 | * Died: Same Arc - 1 |
1237 | * Previous Death: No - 4 |
1238 | * 18/7 = 2.57 [[spoiler:And he came back at the end of the fight]] |
1239 | |
1240 | [[/folder]] |
1241 |
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