Line #203 Sandbox/CountryMattersWickCheck


1	[[AC:Warning: This thread is focused on and discusses about a trope involving the highly offensive c-word (not the rooster one), and therefore, will contain very strong language that may be offensive to some tropers. Viewer discretion is advised.]]
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3	CountryMatters is... something, and is something we should deal about. The trope seems to be about how the word "cunt" '''and''' how severe the word can be depending on the country (Eg. more acceptable in the UK than US) and culture (Eg. unacceptable if used against a woman). However, given the possibly unclear description, the trope might just be about the word "cunt" being said, which is Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs on its own.
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5	This trope is currently listed as a Administrivia/PotholeMagnet, due to the numerous instances in which it has been potholed on this wiki, particularly when the word being potholed is "[[CountryMatters cunt]]". The administrivia page also notes that the trope, and potholes, have been misused for references to female genitalia, particularly when the word is never used.
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7	This trope was harder to do a wick check for, but I, with some assistance from other tropers, managed to get this wick check completed.
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9	While I was expecting this trope to have loads of wicks, there were only around 1895 wicks, so 50 wicks were checked.
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14	[[folder: Comparisons between different cultures on their severity of the word in real life]]
15	# Music.{{Whitehouse}}
16	** SeparatedByACommonLanguage: Uses the word '''[[CountryMatters cunt]]''' a lot and they're from England, so this fuels much of their accusations of misogyny. Of course, in some cases, that's their express intent... '''It's a simple pothole to the word cunt, but I feel like the example as a whole fits here, given that there's a comparison between England and other territories.'''
17	# YourNormalIsOurTaboo
18	** CountryMatters: The word "cunt" is considered highly misogynistic in the United States, while in England and Australia, it has considerably less stigma and is generally just considered a bit coarse. The French equivalent is also pretty tame (generally meaning "dumbass") unless being used specifically to describe a woman's genitals.
19	# BennettTheSage.TropesAToE
20	** (1/2) CountryMatters: Sage has used this epithet in a number of reviews, particularly ''Anime/AngelCop,'' ''Manga/LoveHina'', ''Virgin Fleet'', and ''Very Private Lesson'', and it's his summation of [[Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion Asuka Soryu]] and [[Manga/VenusWars Susan Sommers]]. However, he has said that he wants to cut down on gendered profanity like this, because he knows how much it can offend the female members of his audience. '''Comparison between males and females.'''
21	# AvoidTheDreadedGRating
22	** (1/2) Even the word '''"[[CountryMatters cunt]]"''' alone doesn't justify an 18, as both ''Film/KickAss'' and ''Shaun of the Dead'' feature the word and only get a 15 (mentioned by Creator/SimonPegg on the commentary who bemoaned "15 rating horror" and then got one). '''BBFC 18 is equivalent to a Hard R, so the BBFC seem to show some leniency.'''
23	[[/folder]]
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25	[[folder: Use of the word offends characters in-universe]]
26	# HowTheCharacterStoleChristmas:
27	** A ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'' episode entitled "How Lily Stole Christmas." Narrator Ted, relating the story to his teenaged children, [[NarrativeProfanityFilter substitutes "grinch"]] for "[[CountryMatters A Very Bad Word]]." Lily, upset over being called a c---, takes away all the Christmas decorations. At this point, Ted actually does call her a grinch.
28	# HatedByAll:
29	** ''WesternAnimation/HarleyQuinn2019'': '''While the public reviles Psycho for dropping''' '''CountryMatters''' '''twice on live television''', people who personally know him dislike him for being an asshole AND for being a misogynist. He's accurately described by the Cowled Critic as universally hated. [[spoiler: By the end of Season 2, the rest of crew want nothing to do with him either, and pass him over when they come to break Harley out of Arkham.]]
30	# Theatre.{{Hamlet}}
31	** CountryMatters: Ophelia is upset by a dirty innuendo Hamlet has made, so he feigns ignorance and just upsets her more with his euphemistic response, "Do you think I meant '''count'''ry matters?"
32	# Characters.FridayNightFunkin
33	** (1/4) BlueWithShock: Boyfriend goes blue if he misses a note, alongside a spaced out facial expression implying he's [[ParalysisByAnalysis choked]]. He makes the same expression when Tankman calls him a "[[CountryMatters cunt]]" during Week 7.
34	# Literature.{{Aztec}}
35	** CountryMatters: One of the earliest sentences Mixtli learns from the Spanish invaders, much to His Excellency's horror.
36	# Film.WhatRichardDid
37	** TheCityVsTheCountry: A big component of Richard and Conor's rivalry, with the former seeing him as a lower-class usurper trying to “steal” Lara. On the thematic level, their conflict also signals the major social divide between rural and urban Ireland that had developed during the Celtic Tiger. Interestingly, Richard calling Conor a “culchie” (along with '''CountryMatters''') seems to be what finally brings them to blows. '''The word "cunt" is the reason why the rivalry becomes heated.'''
38	# Fanfic.MoxxieMorningstar
39	** (1/7) BabysFirstWords: PlayedForLaughs with Moxxie's first word being [[spoiler: [[CountryMatters a swear word]] that he learned from a particularly foulmouthed member of the palace staff.]] Lilith is not pleased when she finds out.
40	** (2/7) CountryMatters: [[spoiler: [[BabysFirstWord Moxxie’s first word]] is revealed to be this. He turns out to have learned it from a particularly foul-mouthed gardener who used to work at around the same time as the baby was taken on strolls in the royal gardens.]]
41	** (3/7) DisproportionateRetribution: Lilith, in full MamaBear mode, brutally kills a gardener [[FlashbackEpisode in chapter 3]] just for accidentally teaching Moxxie [[spoiler: to say [[CountryMatters a vulgar swear]] [[BabysFirstWord as his first word.]]]]
42	** (4/7) EvenEvilHasStandards: Lucifer is rather foulmouthed, but in a flashback to [[BabysFirstWords Moxxie’s first word,]] he points out to Lilith that he’d ''never'' swear in front of his young children [[spoiler: and certainly not use ''[[CountryMatters that]]'' [[CountryMatters word]] (Not that it stops him from using it later in life),]] [[ArmorPiercingQuestion and dares her to mention one time when he cursed in front of the kids.]] Lilith concedes the point, [[spoiler: which leads them on a search for where the baby imp would’ve learned such a foul word.]]
43	** (5/7) GilliganCut: In chapter 3, when searching for the source [[spoiler: to baby Moxxie learning [[CountryMatters a vulgar word,]]]] Lucifer advises that they look through the children’s books for clues.
44	--> '''Lilith:''' [[TemptingFate I highly doubt that there’d be much swearing in children’s books.]]
45	--> ''cut to''
46	--> '''Lilith:''' I can’t believe how much swearing there is in children’s books these days!
47	** (6/7) MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Downplayed; In chapter 3, baby Moxxie susses out that he must’ve done something to disappoint Lucifer and Lilith when he thinks of how strangely they reacted [[spoiler: to [[CountryMatters the new word]] [[BabysFirstWords he’d learned.]]]] It makes him so uncomfortable (Because adults being sad and angry reminds him of [[DarkAndTroubledPast his time]] [[WouldHurtAChild with the cult)]] that he tries to cheer them up [[spoiler: by calling them ”Dada” and ”Mama” instead.]]
48	** (7/7) NotHelpingYourCase: [[FlashbackEpisode In chapter 3]], Lilith confronts Lucifer on his foul mouth [[spoiler: after [[BabysFirstWords Moxxie’s first word]] turns out to be [[CountryMatters a particularly vulgar swear.]]]] Lucifer defends himself by claiming that he’d never use a word like that… And proceeds to list all of the ''other'' swears he uses on a regular basis, which only makes Lilith [[DeathGlare glare at him even more.]] [[spoiler: (He’s innocent)]]
49	--> '''Lucifer:''' [[LampshadeHanging And I’m just digging myself deeper, aren’t I?]]
50	# Film.{{Ted}}
51	** CountryMatters: John hates the c-word so much that it seems to physically pain him. '''[[gold:I'm unsure if it offends him, given the example is a ZCE, but he seems to hate the word.]]'''
52	# Music.{{Eminem}}
53	** CountryMatters: In "Same Song and Dance", the SerialKiller VillainProtagonist calls one of his victims a cunt... and then apologizes immediately afterward. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Yeah, torture, rape, and murder are all fine and dandy, but using the C-word is crossing a line!]] [[note]](One could argue that [[PragmaticVillainy he needs to stay on her good side to lure her in for the kill]], but when one considers how blunt he usually is about his intentions...)[[/note]]
54	# Podcast.TheBrianAndJillShow
55	** CountryMatters: While Brian & Jill have fun cussing in their first episode due to no FCC regulations, this is the one that Jill refuses to go with.
56	# Film.MyAwkwardSexualAdventure
57	** CountryMatters: A role-playing Jordan says this to Julia, who's playing Rachel, right as the real Rachel walks in. [[WhamLine It startles all parties involved]], considering how diffident Jordan usually is.
58	[[/folder]]
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60	[[folder: Word is used as a Precision F-Strike or Atomic F-Bomb]]
61	# Awesome.BigMouth
62	** After taking Mirror Missy's verbal abuse all episode, Missy finally tells her to go away with a PrecisionFStrike.
63	---> '''Missy:''' You know what, Mirror Missy? Why don't you just go ''fuck'' yourself, you fudging cu-cu-''[[CountryMatters cunt]]''?\
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65	# Manga.SoulEater: '''ZCE, but the other example makes it clear.'''
66	** Maka in the Hungarian dub (see PrecisionFStrike for more details)
67	** PrecisionFStrike: There's a couple in the Hungarian dub amongst a great deal of {{Cluster F Bomb}}ing: "I'm gonna kick... HER ASS!" and "[[CountryMatters Go crawl into a cunt!]]"
68	# AtomicFBomb
69	** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestriaProjectHorizons'': The villain Deus drops [[CountryMatters Atomic C Bombs]] with all the regularity of a CatchPhrase.
70	** An atomic [[CountryMatters C-bomb]] variant occurs in ''Film/T2Trainspotting'' when Begbie realizes Renton is in the adjacent bathroom stall and looks over the separation wall just as Renton, who realized the same thing, escapes:
71	-->'''Begbie''': '''''CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNT!!!!!!!'''''
72	** ''Series/GameOfThrones'': The StunnedSilence at the start of Cersei's walk in "Mother's Mercy" is broken when a bystander yells "''[[CountryMatters Cunt]]''!" at the top of his lungs and everyone realizes they too can get away with insulting ''the queen'' to her face.
73	# Film.BladeTrinity
74	** CountryMatters: From Hannibal King to Danica Talos in one of the most memorable insults in the franchise.
75	-->'''King''': See, that tickle that you're feeling in the back of your throat right now? That's atomized colloidal silver. It's being pumped through the building's air conditioning system, you cock-juggling ''thundercunt''!
76	# Music.{{Haim}}
77	** CountryMatters: ''Man from the Magazine'' ends with one:
78	-->''You don't know how it feels, you don't know how it feels, you don't know how it feels... to be the cunt''
79	# Characters.FridayNightFunkin
80	** {{Corpsing}}: Many of his Game Over lines has the Captain barely holding it together after insulting the Boyfriend for losing. Similarly, after calling Boyfriend [[CountryMatters a cunt]], he bursts out laughing only to call him and Girlfriend the same word again.
81	** CountryMatters: Before "Stress" starts, he outright calls Boyfriend the c-word, THEN calls both him and Girlfriend the c-word for good measure.
82	** RuderAndCruder: During Weeks 1-6, there aren't many swear words, with the only one being "Shit!" appearing when you just barely hit a note. Here, during Week 7, your opponent is a SirSwearsALot who outright calls Boyfriend and Girlfriend '''[[CountryMatters the c-word]]''' in the opening cutscene of Week 7's 3rd song, "Stress". Justified, as Week 7 is the first to have actual dialogue other than Week 6, which still has some crass dialogue in "Roses." '''[[gold:The use of the word is very precision based, since the work has never used that word until then.]]'''
83	[[/folder]]
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86	[[folder: A character who uses the word is symbolized as unpleasant]]
87	# Literature.{{Skagboys}}
88	** CountryMatters: Par for the course in a Welsh novel. However, Matty's use stands out. Much more often than not, he simply refers to everyone else as "Cunt". Its no exaggeration to say this helps to make him one of the least sympathetic of the protagonists, and that really does say something when country matters is tossed around as freely as it is by almost every other main (and peripheral) character.
89	[[/folder]]
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91	[[folder: Character has the word in their name to symbolize how petty they are]]
92	# FurAndLoathing
93	** Many of the [[StrawMan Straw Men]] that inhabit ''Webcomic/VeganArtbook'' but '''[[CountryMatters Cuntons]]''' stands out in particular. She hates all animals except her pets for [[ForTheEvulz reasons]] and loathes wolves in particular for [[ForTheEvulz more reasons]]. So naturally she killed a wolf and now wears its skinned head as a very ghoulish hat.
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96	[[folder: Character almost says the word / Censorship or wordplay of the word played for laughs (Not necessarily covered by Censored For Comedy)]]
97	# Fanfic.CrisisEquestria
98	** CountryMatters: Havocwing uses the c-word at the end of a long string of swears after Rainbow Dash knocks her tumbling along the ground at the end of their fight in Chapter 21. Of course, since all we see is, "-unt." she could have meant something else...
99	# Series.PleaseLikeMe
100	** CountryMatters: Rose calls Josh for help because she is trying to write 'the c-word' on Stuart's lawn, but she only got as far as 'cun' before running out of paint. Josh pretends not to know what word she means in an attempt to get her to say it.
101	# Funny.KathAndKim
102	** Kim insists that chardonnay is pronounced "cardonnay". ("It's French. The 'h' is silent.") When everyone tells her that it's definitely pronounced "shardonnay", she gets defensive and calls them all a '''[[CountryMatters "pack of shunts"]]'''.
103	# Music.MitchBenn
104	** SubvertedRhymeEveryOccasion: "I May Just Have To Murder Music/JamesBlunt" rhymes the title character with "confront" and "back to front" and then notes that "he's the only man alive who is his own '''[[CountryMatters rhyming slang]]'''."
105	# Bowdlerise.LiveActionTV
106	** Parodied in an episode of ''Series/HowIMetYourMother'': Marshall is recapping a vulgar conversation with his boss regarding another company that has done a lot of environmental damage. Lily reminds him that she is pregnant and wants him to censor himself so the child won't hear vulgar language. Marshall then recaps his story, replacing the raunchy words he said at work with clean ones (i.e, "grab them by their big sweaty ''hands'', "sons of ''mothers''", etc). Barney notes the scene is like watching ''Film/TheBreakfastClub'' [[TakeThat on TBS.]] Also, there are things Ted isn't prepared to tell his kids. E.g. in a flashback to their college days, Marshall was obviously smoking a joint, but what we get to see is Marshall enjoying a sandwich in his dorm room, giggling as he does so, and hiding the sandwich under some papers when he thinks the Dean is going to visit. '''Ted also self-censors''' '''''[[CountryMatters certain words]]''''' '''and replaces them with more innocent substitutions like "grinch" and "fudge".'''
107	# Characters.CrushCrush
108	** CountryMatters: She's a nurse who works for the Centre for Understanding Nutritional Technology (also known as the Centre for Learning Intimate Technologies). '''Sounds like the acronym is for humor.'''
109	# Archer.TropesAToC
110	** CountryMatters: Cheryl's real last name is "Tunt". This is the subject of a few puns.
111	-->'''Archer:''' Tum again?
112	*** In season five Mallory calls Cheryl "My little count..ry singer!"
113	*** In season six:
114	-->'''Krieger:''' Archer won't risk his relationship with Lana for a previous conquest, especially a prostitute. For a man like him, it's all about the hunt.
115	-->'''Pam:''' Well they're all gonna have--
116	-->'''Krieger:''' I said ''hunt''!
117	# CDTAdventure.TropesAToK
118	** CountryMatters: Parthenia drops a c-bomb on Chaudhari. Non-verbally, of course, since that would unnecessarily escalate the situation in the Town Square. '''[[gold:This is a weird example, but I guess that "quietly" using the word counts for this folder.]]'''
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121	[[folder: References to the bits]]
122	# WesternAnimation.SausageParty
123	** CountryMatters: Douche's package advertises that he is "Country Fresh". The actual c-word is dropped a few times, also. '''[[red:Since Douche is a douche, I'd classify this example here. The other part qualifies for]]''' '''''[[red:Character say the word]]''''''''.'''
124	# LapPillow
125	** Theatre/{{Hamlet}} lays his head in Ophelia's lap -- and proceeds with a string of {{Double Entendre}}s about what else he might lay in her lap, including the trope namer for CountryMatters.
126	# BiteTheWaxTadpole
127	** (1/2) In December 2013, IKEA's annual charity plushie, the stuffed [[TheBigBadWolf Big Bad Wolf]] Lufsig, gained attention in Hong Kong after someone threw one at unpopular Chief Executive Leung Chun-ying ([[DontExplainTheJoke nicknamed "the wolf" by his particularly large opposition]]). While the juxtaposition was funny, Cantonese speakers realized that its name (a corruption of a Swedish word meaning "to lumber") as listed on IKEA's Mainland China website, "Lù mǔ xi", was pronounced as "Lo Mai Sai" in Cantonese, which could be read as a pun of "Lo Mai ''Hai''" ("your mother's '''[[CountryMatters cunt]]'''"). [[FromBadToWorse Even worse]], the Cantonese word for "throw" is a homophone of a word commonly translated as "[[PrecisionFStrike fuck]]" ("Diū"). The expected response was subverted, as the resulting MemeticMutation caused Lufsig to [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff fly off store shelves in Hong Kong and the mainland]] (with people ''lining up in the morning to buy them'' [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools and support IKEA's causes]]). The Chinese name was later changed to a closer transliteration that averted the Cantonese wordplay.
128	** (2/2) In Czech, "Pichu" is pronounced like the word for female genitalia (the '''CountryMatters''' equivalent). When the second generation of Pokémon arrived at the Czech Republic, kids everywhere ''had to'' joke about Pikachu's vagina. Pichu was censored out in some instalments, but no-one thought of changing the name. Later the pronunciation was adjusted to Pixu (x standing for the sound like 'ch' in German 'lachen', Spanish 'j' in 'Javier', or Scottish 'ch' in 'Loch Ness') or Pic-chu.
129	# ComicStrip.BloomCounty
130	** SelfDeprecation:
131	*** In a series in ''Bloom County 2015'' about "trump" being used for [[ToiletHumor farting]] in Britain, the target of these jokes, UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, responds by sending Milo a copy of "British Cockney Rhyming Slang", and a note telling Milo to check the "B section", in particular, the definition of "berk". The definitions themselves are accurate to the actual British slang usage of "berk", with "vagina" being used as a substitute for '''[[CountryMatters a more offensive term]]'''. '''Reference to the word.'''
132	# GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff.{{Toys}}
133	** IKEA's "Lufsig" wolf plushies experienced a huge surge of popularity in Hong Kong and China after a protester threw one at Hong Kong's leader CY Leung, who had been called "the wolf" by critics who think he is cunning, and as a pun off his name in Chinese). That and the [[BiteTheWaxTadpole rather unfortunate name]] Ikea's Chinese website gave the toy; which could be used to refer to [[CountryMatters a part of a Mother's anatomy]], and even worse, a phrase essentially meaning "Throw Lufsig" that could be read as "fuck your mother".
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137	[[folder: Shock value examples]]
138	# Film.KickAss
139	** (2/2) LadySwearsALot: Hit-Girl had a dirty mouth when she was ''twelve years old'', and '''[[CountryMatters it isn't casual swearing either]]'''. Creator/ChloeGraceMoretz herself commented on how nasty it was. '''[[red:An excessively foul-mouthed child character feels like shock value.]]'''
140	# Music.KuntAndTheGang
141	** CountryMatters: '''Come on, do we really need to say anything?''' '''[[red:ZCE. Also, considering the band creates songs about puerile subjects, I would list it under here.]]'''
142	[[/folder]]
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144	[[folder: Word used without cultural issues mentioned / Character says or is named the word with no culture issues mentioned, and unclear examples.]]
145	# Characters.PantyAndStockingWithGarterbelt
146	** CountryMatters: [[spoiler: In her Tom Croose disguise, she uses "cunt" frequently.]]
147	# WesternAnimation.SantaInc
148	** CountryMatters: Junior calls Candy this in the second episode.
149	# Series.{{Fleabag}}:
150	** Fleabag calls Godmother this at one point. It's hard to disagree with her.
151	# WebVideo.{{Sidemen}}:
152	** Used frequently among the guys, mostly as a playful insult and occasionally out of pure anger.
153	# Characters.KillLaKillAU
154	** CountryMatters: Called Satsuki the "C-word" in French (apparently)
155	# LetsPlay.PewDiePie
156	** CountryMatters: Doesn't say it as much, but still drops it occasionally.
157	# BennettTheSage.TropesAToE
158	** (2/2) Sage and Suave both hate ''Manga/LoveHina'', to the point that Suave renames Naru as "The Intolerable Bitch" and '''[[CountryMatters calls her a cunt]]'''
159	# Literature.{{Ulysses}}
160	** (COMMENTED OUT) CountryMatters: Complete with related wordplay.
161	# Characters.FridayNightFunkin
162	** (2/4) BleepDammit: In gameplay, he'll say "effing" in place of "fucking", yet has no problem [[SirSwearsALot using other swear words]], including [[CountryMatters the c-word]]. What's odder is that he's more than happy to say the F-word in all its glory in some of his game over quotes.
163	# Film.KickAss
164	** (1/2) CountryMatters: Said by Hit Girl to a room full of criminals.[[note]]It's too cool to show in the main text: "OK, you cunts, let's see what you can do." From an ''eleven-year-old''.[[/note]] '''The example also has unnecessary gushing and natter.'''
165	# Series.JerseyShore
166	** CountryMatters: Ronnie gets pretty drunk in the season 2 premier and lets out all the bitterness he has toward Sammi out, including pulling out this trope. Angelina uses it a bit later in the same episode during one of the commentary sections.
167	# Funny.TheWire
168	** Bird blurting out insult after insult towards the detectives during his interrogation, especially [[CountryMatters towards Kima]]. '''[[red:Unclear. There's not really any mentions in this entry that state that she is offended by the word.]]'''
169	# Funny.TheCrown2016
170	** CountryMatters to the bloody King of England.
171	-->'''George VI:''' There was an old Countess of Bray, and you might think it odd when I say, that despite her high station, rank and education, she always spelled "Cunt" with a K!
172	[[/folder]]
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174	[[folder: Potholes for the word that don't fit in the above categories except "character says the word"]]
175	# LapPillow
176	** Theatre/{{Hamlet}} lays his head in Ophelia's lap -- and proceeds with a string of {{Double Entendre}}s about what else he might lay in her lap, including the trope namer for CountryMatters. '''Mentions the trope name.'''
177	# CountryMouse
178	** Not necessarily experienced in CountryMatters. '''[[cinnamon:Ambiguious reference to the trope.]]'''
179	# BoxOfficeBomb.NThroughR
180	** ''Film/{{Nil by Mouth}}'' (1997) — Budget, $9 million. Box office, $266,130. This is the only movie Creator/GaryOldman wrote and directed, and while it got some decent reviews, it also earned notoriety for having the most usage of the word "[[CountryMatters cunt]]" (it also abused the F-Bomb). '''Known for how many uses of the word are in the film.'''
181	# AvoidTheDreadedGRating
182	** Just like Peter Morgan's aforementioned ''The Queen'', the Creator/{{Netflix}} series ''Series/TheCrown2016'' fits this trope. The series is a character study about Queen Elizabeth II, but with some edgier content (namely, some medical gore and occasional nudity) - no worse than most TV-14 rated cable dramas, though. A crude limerick in the first episode that uses '''[[CountryMatters a certain swear word]]''', and a PrecisionFStrike in the fifth, take the series as a whole into TV-MA territory despite its benign nature - certainly compared to [[Series/Sense8 other]] [[Series/HouseOfCardsUS original]] [[Series/OrangeIsTheNewBlack series]] [[Series/Daredevil2015 with TV-MA]] [[Series/JessicaJones2015 ratings on]] [[Series/LukeCage2016 the service]]. (The latter moment, of course, would've likely kept the series in solid TV-14 territory were it not for the former moment.)
183	# Characters.DreamSMP:
184	** '''Characters/TalesFromTheSMP''' [[note]][[LossOfIdentity Karl]]; [[TrademarkFavoriteFood Miles Memington]], [[BuryYourDisabled Catboy]], [[ReallyGetsAround Helga]], [[TheBadGuyWins Bob]], [[DeathOfAChild Robin]], [[DomesticAbuse Jimmy]], [[TheBadGuyWins Jack]], [[WeHardlyKnewYe Cornelius]]; [[ExtremeDoormat John John]], [[AggressiveCategorism Jack Kanoff]], [[EvenEvilHasLovedOnes Mason]], [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer Flint Michigan]], [[MorallyBankruptBanker Percy]], [[DirtyCop Sheriff Sherman Thompson]], [[ImAHumanitarian Crops]], [[CloudCuckooLander Ron "Michael" Ronson]], [[{{Shopkeeper}} William Williamson]]; [[KillThePoor Sir Billiam III]], [[TheButlerDidIt Butler]], [[OverlyLongName Oliver Cumbucket]], [[SelfAppliedNickname Lord Sebastian]], [[TheEeyore James]], [[RichBitch Lyaria]], [[TheProblemWithPenIsland Drew P. Wiener]]; [[LovableJock Joey]], [[AdaptationalNiceGuy Schlatt]], [[TheSmartGuy Greg]], [[ThoseTwoGuys Zachary]], [[NiceGuy Porkums]], [[IdenticalStranger Francis]], [[ThoseTwoGuys Ash]], [[ShrinkingViolet Rash]], [[ButtMonkey Gump/Spud]], [[PajamaCladHero Connor]]; [[LargeHam Porkius VII]], [[YoungAndInCharge Jackie]], [[TheDitz Laggius Maximus]], [[TheAlcoholic Bartholomew]], [[ArcherArchetype Watson]], [[TrainingFromHell Levi]], [[ActionGirl Genevieve]], [[SpecialPersonNormalName John]], [[GracefulLoser Edward]], [[TheStoic Ran]]; [[TheLeader Isaac]], [[GentlemanAndAScholar Benjamin]], [[HotBlooded Cletus]], [[TheQuietOne Charles]], [[UncannyFamilyResemblance Ranbob]]; Frodo Haggins, George Billiam, [[OnlySaneMan Hamilton]], '''[[CountryMatters Mike Hunt]]''', Orion, Parker, [[TheLoinsSleepTonight "Qock Pills"]], Toby, [[TheTelevisionTalksBack Mr. Cicle]]; [[LightIsNotGood The In-Between]], [[DarkIsNotEvil The Other Side]][[/note]] '''Used for a name'''
185	[[/folder]]
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187	[[folder: Other]]
188	# Characters.FutariWaPrettyCureDragon
189	** CountryMatters: Calls Ai a "screwy little quim" after she allegedly tries to [[GroinAttack hit Hiroshi in the crotch deliberately]] with a volleyball. '''[[cinnamon:Although it mentions that he hates anyone calling him or his friends a cunt, this examples doesn't make it clear enough that it is about the word "cunt".]]'''
190	[[/folder]]
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194	!!Statistics:
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196	Because there are so many wicks of this trope on the same pages, certain examples have been divided into different folders. Additionally, as the percentages are calculated based on individual examples, we cannot expect that the results precisely sum up to 100%.
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198	Out of 69 examples from 50 pages checked, estimated
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200	* 4/69 (5.8%) involved comparisons between different cultures on their severity of the word in real life.
201	* 17/69 (24.6%) involved characters being offended by the word.
202	* 11/69 (15.9%) involved the word being used as a PrecisionFStrike or AtomicFBomb.
203	* 1/69 (1.4%) involved the word being used by a character symbolized as unpleasant.
204	* 1/69 (1.4%) involved the word being used as a pun in a character's name that symbolizes that they are unpleasant.
205	* 8/69 (11.6%) involved the word being used in wordplay or clear censorship.
206	* 6/69 (8.7%) involved the word being used for references to the female genitalia.
207	* 2/69 (2.9%) involved the word being used for shock value examples.
208	* 13/69 (18.8%) involved the word being used without cultural issues mentioned, and unclear examples.
209	* 5/69 (7.2%) involved potholes that did not fall into the above categories, except if the word was used without cultural issues mentioned.
210	* 1/69 (1.4%) was an example of an unclear example that doesn't even mention if the word "cunt" was used.
211
212	Adding up to 99.7%.
213
214
215	!!![=ZCEs=] overall:
216	/69 were Administrivia/ZeroContextExamples, including the ZCE folder.
217
218	!!!Potholes overall:
219	* 30/69 (43.5%), from all folders, involved a pothole of CountryMatters.
220	** 11/30 (36.7%), 11/69 of overall examples (15.9%), of all the potholes involved the potholed word explicitly being "cunt".
221	*** 9/30 (30%), 9/69 of overall examples (13%), only involved the word "cunt".
222	*** 2/30 (6.7%), 2/69 of overall examples (2.9%), involved extra words (excluding articles) with the word "cunt".
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224	!!Analysis
225
226	So yeah... The trope's definition is inconsistent, and all the types of examples linking to the trope are inconsistent too.
227
228	However, almost all of the examples share something in common. '''They're referring to the word "cunt"'''. References to a word without a consistent meaning or purpose makes a trope Administrivia/PeopleSitOnChairs, and CountryMatters seems to be going in that direction.
229
230	I believe the inconsistent use of CountryMatters also stems from its unclear name. The [[TropeNamers trope name]] comes from ''Theatre/{{Hamlet}}''. During Act 3 Scene 2, Hamlet asks Ophelia if he could lie in her lap during a performance, which Ophelia questions and refuses. Hamlet tells Ophelia that he only wants to lie his head on her lap and asks if she was thinking of "country matters" instead, which has commonly been seen as a sexual pun, either as a pun of insulting women, or regarding the vulva. It is also seen as an example of comparing rural behaviors (country) with more sophisticated behaviors, but not of the word.
231
232	The trope name CountryMatters might be a pun on that term from ''Hamlet'', which is already a pun. CountryMatters could be read as "this country views this matter (the word "cunt") in a different way", which seems to support what most of the description rambles about. However, given that most people only recognize "Country Matters" as simply a dirty pun on the word "cunt", as seen from the lack of first folder entries, this has resulted in examples being everywhere, [[Administrivia/TropeNamerSyndrome making, what I think is, a punny pun title fall flat]].
233
234	If this trope is about "comparisons between different cultures on the severity of the word "cunt"", and I am wrong on the uncertainty which I had stated way above, then this trope would still have problems, given that most examples (65 uses) would be misuse, and there would only be 4 correct uses.
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236	!!What can we do to fix this trope?
237	Initially, before the wick check was completed, I was thinking of proposing the idea of tropes related to the word, such as "the word "cunt" used for shock value and humor". However, a trope about "PrecisionFStrike or AtomicFBomb, but for the word cunt" would not be tropeworthy, [[Administrivia/TheSameButMoreSpecific given its redundancy]].
238
239	However, as a Useful Notes or Media Notes page? Maybe. The "comparisons between different countries" folder brings up examples regarding how offensive this word can come off as in various different countries and towards various different groups, and it is considered one of the most severe of the SevenDirtyWords, the entry of which wicks the word to CountryMatters too. Also, MediaNotes/MediaClassifications, essential in discussions regarding movie and television show distribution, in various countries can treat this word quite differently, especially when used on television. A Useful or Media Notes page could work.
240
241	Some suggestions on what could be done to CountryMatters, and the likelihood of such happening:
242
243	* Create a trope revolving around using the word "cunt" for shock value, the word (or profanity in general) offending certain characters in-universe, etc.
244	* Create a Useful Notes or Media Notes page about the word - If there is enough consensus for the UN page, another crowner should determine the name of the page.
245	* Cut CountryMatters.

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