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12	->''"There's no such thing as strong coffee, just weak people."''
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14	UsefulNotes/{{Coffee}}, perhaps with the descriptor of [[PurpleProse "black as night" or "black as a witch's heart"]], is a very bitter drink on its own. Having a character drink it undiluted shows that they are "tough" enough to enjoy it. Milk and sugar weaken the pure coffee flavor too much for this character, and thus the trope only gets downplayed when a character does exactly that.
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16	With coffee culture changing so frequently around the world, this trope can evolve significantly depending on the setting. For an office environment, the easy availability of coffee makes only the blackest of black truly distinguish a character as a leader figure or go-getter. It's also common in any CopShow, DetectiveFiction or FilmNoir, where the HardboiledDetective that isn't knocking back heavy scotch, or munching on {{donut\|MessWithACop}}s, will most assuredly take their coffee black to keep themselves alert. With the Japanese usually preferring tea, coffee consumption in general (no matter the strength) becomes a quick signal of confidence or hyper-masculinity in Japanese media.
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18	This is a SubTrope of DrinkBasedCharacterization with an [[ManlyMan extra shot of manliness]]. Also see KlatchianCoffee, which explores the extremity of the coffee itself and its uses (e.g. a G-rated MushroomSamba or a hangover cure).
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20	Compare RealMenHateSugar, the direct alternative to this. See also RealMenEatMeat, its culinary cousin, and AgeStereotypicalFood. The idea that milk isn't manly is invoked in the LactoseOverLiquor trope (bystander surprise when a "macho" character orders milk).
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22	Nothing to do with ''Theatre/BlackCoffee''.
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24	[[JustForFun/IThoughtItMeant Note]]: Not a [[BlackIsBiggerInBed sexual innuendo]], or referencing the joke made by the DeadpanSnarker when this is said, so [[HehHehYouSaidX stop giggling]].
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27	!!Examples:
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31	[[folder:Anime & Manga]]
32	* ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'': Yomi, who otherwise has a serious SweetTooth, takes her coffee black, prompting Chiyo to comment on how mature she is. Tomo implies that this is a recent switch Yomi made for [[WeightWoe one of her diets]], which is quickly confirmed when Yomi tastes it and mutters "yuck" under her breath.
33	* Parodied in an {{omake}} of ''Manga/YowamushiPedal'', where Naruko tells Onoda how real men drink their coffee black, only to subvert it by asking for milk as soon as Onoda went to the bathroom.
34	* ''Anime/YokaiWatch:'' Puppiccino is a child yo-kai who desperately wants to be seen as a mature adult. While showing off his "maturity", he says that adults drink their coffee black and then sips some. He promptly starts gagging at the taste.
35	* Female example: in the first chapter of ''Manga/NewGame'', when Rin asks Aoba if she wants anything to drink, Aoba asks for an orange juice at first, but quickly changes her mind and asks for black coffee because she thinks it's what she's supposed to drink as a "responsible adult". Kou takes Aoba's coffee by accident and spits it back out, preferring her cups with lots of sugar. When Aoba tries it, it turns out that she can't handle it black after all.
36	* Another female example from ''Manga/KirarinRevolution'': when Kilari briefly switches agencies and goes to Black Wood, one of the first things she is told about her new, more mature image as "Blackmoon Kirarin" is that she can't be seen in public consuming anything but black coffee.
37	* In one chapter of ''Manga/TeasingMasterTakagiSan'', Nishikata tries to appear more mature to Takagi by drinking canned black coffee from a vending machine.
38	* In ''Manga/NonNonBiyori'', Komari has something of a complex over [[OlderThanTheyLook her childish appearance]]. She is very upset to learn in one chapter that [[YoungerThanTheyLook Hotaru]] takes her coffee black, yet another sign that the younger girl acts more mature than her.
39	* In ''Manga/SpyXFamily'', secret agent Nightfall is surprised to see superspy Twilight take his coffee with milk at home, being used to him taking it black. She thinks that either family life has softened him, or it's part of the persona he's adopted. He's actually trying to protect his stomach in light of his stressful life and considering a switch to decaf.
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42	[[folder:Blogs]]
43	* ''Blog/SonicTheHedgehogTwitter'': Parodied during one of the [[Twitter Takeovers]]. Shadow is so hardcore that he eats coffee beans.
44	-->'''Shadow:''' I eat the coffee beans straight. They're delicious... and crunchy.
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47	[[folder:Comic Books]]
48	* In the epilogue to the collected edition of ''ComicBook/KingdomCome'', [[Comicbook/{{Superman}} Clark]], [[Comicbook/WonderWoman Diana]] and [[Comicbook/{{Batman}} Bruce]] meet up at Planet Krypton restaurant. While Clark has milk and Diana gets some water, Bruce's drink order is "Coffee. Black. And keep it coming."
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51	[[folder:Films -- Live-Action]]
52	* Used as a plot point in ''Film/SuddenImpact''. For years CowboyCop "Dirty" Harry Callahan has been ordering his coffee black and is tipped off of a robbery by his server pouring a bunch of sugar into it.
53	-->Every day for the past ten years, Loretta there's been giving me a large black coffee, today she gives me a large black coffee only it has sugar in it, a lotta sugar. I just came back to complain. Now, you boys put those guns down.
54	* ''Film/{{Airplane}}:'' "I like my coffee black. [[WhereDaWhiteWomenAt Like my men.]]" [[FromTheMouthsOfBabes Spoken by a six-year-old girl]] to the boy who sits next to her (for laughs, obviously.)
55	* Subverted in ''Film/PulpFiction''. Winston Wolf is a badass among badasses in the Marcellus Wallace crime organization, but when Jimmy offers him a cup of coffee, he tells him he likes it with a lot of cream and sugar. No one dares to question his man card.
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58	[[folder:Literature]]
59	* In ''Literature/GuardsGuards'', Vimes takes his coffee black. He tries to order it "black as a moonless night", but the owner picks apart the metaphor until Vimes finally settles for "a moonless night as black as that coffee."
60	* Literature/JamesBond, in contrast to [[BritsLoveTea most of his fellow-Brits]], ''hates'' tea, and takes his coffee black. When at home, he (or rather, his housekeeper) makes it in a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemex_Coffeemaker Chemex Coffeemaker]].
61	* Nick Andros, a young and skinny but tough and resourceful deaf-mute drifter in ''Literature/TheStand'', takes his coffee black. {{Lampshade}}d by Sheriff Baker: "Take it like a man, do you?"
62	* In ''Literature/SagaOfSoul'', the multiversal SerialKiller "Murder" makes his order to a surviving barista after killing everyone else in line at a Starbucks, saying he likes "coffee as black as my soul".
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65	[[folder:Live-Action TV]]
66	* ''Radio/OurMissBrooks'': Mr. Boynton and Miss Brooks ''both'' take their coffee black in "Space, Who Needs It?"
67	* Captain Janeway's preferred drink on ''Series/StarTrekVoyager'': "Coffee. Black." It's good stuff. [[RememberWhenYouBlewUpASun She beat the Borg with it.]]
68	* Gibbs in ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' is also known for drinking black coffee. It comes with being a former marine. When Tony takes over Gibbs' position during his TenMinuteRetirement, Tony also starts drinking black coffee. [[NonActionGuy Non-Action Girl]] Abbie prefers soft drinks.
69	* Detective Dale Cooper from ''Series/TwinPeaks'' is a talented, experienced FBI agent who always takes his coffee black.
70	* Michael Ian Black of ''Series/StellaUS'' provides an example that it's probably best not to overthink:
71	-->'''Michael:''' I like my coffee the way I like my women: Strong, black, [[{{Metaphorgotten}} and proud]].
72	* Policewoman Casey Jones from ''Series/{{Decoy}}'' likes her coffee "hot and black."
73	* Played with on ''Series/{{Frasier}}''. Martin, a retired cop, usually takes his coffee this way in contrast to his sons' more elaborate orders. Niles in particular makes ''very'' specific requests such as specifying how thick he wants the foam to be. Frasier himself tends to switch between the two extremes and on at least one occasion specifically ordered his coffee plain and black after getting annoyed with how long Niles was taking to order his drink.
74	* ''Series/{{Chuck}}'': John Casey is a gruff ex-marine. In one episode he mentions liking his coffee "black and bitter".
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77	[[folder:Podcasts]]
78	* ''Podcast/BlackJackJustice'': [[ManlyManAndSensitiveGuy Manly Man Jack]] drinks his black while [[SensitiveGuyAndManlyMan Sensitive Guy Freddie]] takes his with cream and sugar. Downplayed, as Jack's partner, [[ActionGirl Trixie]] also takes it black, as do many of their clients, men and women alike.
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81	[[folder:Pro Wrestling]]
82	* According to the Wrestling/UltimateWarrior, Macho Man Wrestling/RandySavage drank over a gallon of black coffee every day. With multiple gallons before a big match.
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85	[[folder:Theater]]
86	* ''Film/{{Big}} the Musical'' has a song called "Coffee, Black" based on this trope.
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89	[[folder:Video Games]]
90	* ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars'': According to his profile, Hawke likes his coffee black.
91	* ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing:''
92	** ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossingWildWorld'': Discussed. A "[[ManChild lazy]]" villager will sometimes say "Is it true that "real men" like bitter coffee? I guess I'm just a regular guy then, 'cause I like my coffee [[SweetTooth light and sweet]]."
93	** ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossingNewLeaf'': Subverted. You can work part-time at the local café. It turns out some of the manliest villagers like their coffee sweet and some of the girliest are fond of black.
94	* ''VideoGame/BravelyDefault'': Ringabel is a flamboyant AgentPeacock, yet is the only member of the party who likes their coffee black. On the antagonists' side, there's Alternis Dim, who, being a [[BlackKnight Dark Knight]], naturally likes his coffee to be as dark as he is. [[spoiler:This is one of many hints that [[IdentityAmnesia they're actually]] [[AlternateSelf the same person]]]].
95	* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei:''
96	** ''VideoGame/Persona3'' : Ken Amada says even he drinks coffee black in a random optional conversation you can have with him (which you can even joke you like it with hot sauce). Ken is also 10 years old.
97	*** VideoGame/Persona3Reload, a full remake, includes events where the player can make meals with various party members, in this case making coffee with Ken. The kid visibly and audibly finds it bitter, before trying to claim he likes it.
98	** ''VideoGame/Persona4:'' There is a scene where Ryotaro Dojima asks the player how he wants his coffee:
99	--->'''Black:''' Just like me. The easiest kind to make.\
100	'''With cream:''' Huh...? Oh, uh, well... It's just I haven't heard anyone ask for that in a while.\
101	'''Cream and sugar:''' Hah, you have the same tastes as Nanako.\
102	'''Surprise me:''' Alright, I'll pour you a good one.
103	** ''VideoGame/Persona5'': Subverted. Ryuji, the most overtly masculine of the protagonists, recoils when he gets a sip of Sojiro's black coffee, which the flamboyant Yusuke and supermodel Ann enjoy. He has to wash the taste out of his mouth with iced cola. Morgana chastises him for having a child's tongue.
104	--->'''Ryuji:''' Blech! ''[chugs a glass of iced cola]'' It's so bitter! This has got to be cruel and unusual punishment!
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107	[[folder:Visual Novels]]
108	* Kyle Hyde in ''VisualNovel/LastWindow'', the sequel to ''VisualNovel/HotelDuskRoom215''. Another cop example, Kyle likes to drink his coffee black, at least shown in ''Last Window'' at the café.
109	* ''VisualNovel/PhoenixWrightAceAttorneyTrialsAndTribulations'': Mixed in with MustHaveCaffeine, Godot always drinks his coffee pure black, which even provides one of many of his famous quotes "Blacker than a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than Hell itself... that is coffee." [[spoiler:Later in the game, you learn that someone had once slipped poison into his coffee and put him in a coma for 5 years. It's understandable that he'd be wary of putting ''anything'' in his coffee after that, especially if the poison was disguised as cream or sugar]].
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112	[[folder:Web Comics]]
113	* ''Webcomic/AngelDown'', Bernard compliments [[spoiler:his son]] Samuel for taking his coffee black during their first meeting.
114	* ''WebComic/{{Hiimdaisy}}'' parodies the coffee scene in ''VideoGame/Persona4:''
115	-->'''Black:''' Don't try to sound tough you sissy.\
116	'''With cream:''' Oh, coming right up, '''madam'''.\
117	'''Cream and sugar:''' What are you, '''Nanako'''?\
118	('''Nanako:''' ''[[[FunnyBackgroundEvent in the background]]]'' Daddy, I want it black.)\
119	'''Surprise me:''' ''[throws it at your face]''
120	* ''Webcomic/SaturdayMorningBreakfastCereal'': [[https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/weak-2 A dweebish-looking guy]] tries to mock a bigger guy who takes cream and sugar in his coffee. Unfortunately, the bigger guy can justify it by virtue of his having a physically-demanding jobs that needs lots of calories.
121	-->'''Dweeb:''' ''RECOGNIZE THAT I AM BETTER THAN YOU!''
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124	[[folder:Western Animation]]
125	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Archer}}'': Dr. Algernop Krieger once ordered his coffee the same way he likes his women: "black, bitter, and preferably fair trade."
126	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Arthur}}'': Surprisingly, played straight in the episode “Mr. Ratburn and the Special Someone”, despite shown to have a major sweet tooth even to the point of marrying a [[spoiler: male chocolatier named Patrick]]. However, it might be a SubvertedTrope in the fact that the woman, [[spoiler: who is his sister]], gave a [[OvercomplicatedMenuOrder very specific instructions on her green tea]] as well as asked the server to bring some clean silverware, so he might have just ordered a regular coffee over embarrassment of her overly long and specific order.
127	* ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'': Nathan Explosion has this to say about Dethklok's new song, the Duncan Hills Coffee Jingle:
128	-->We're here to make coffee metal. We're here to make everything metal. Blacker than the blackest black... times infinity.
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131	[[folder:Real Life]]
132	* Current or former military personnel often take their coffee black. Procurement tends to buy the cheapest, cruddiest coffee possible so the cream and sugar tend to run out fast (alternatively: the officers stole it all), which means soldiers, sailors, and airmen tend to get used to black coffee and stay with the habit after mustering out. Plus, depending on how busy you are, black coffee is just faster. Besides, it's not like sugar and cream will make bad coffee taste good.
133	* This trope gets invoked by [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Coffee Boss Coffee]] to the Japanese public.
134	* The "third wave" coffee movement, with its commitment to high-quality, single origin beans, prefers drinking coffee without milk and sugar, though latte art is also appreciated. High-quality coffee beans yield flavors that are frequently compared to citrus fruits without the need for sugar.
135	* This attitude is why Starbucks' milk-and-sugar-laden coffee beverages have been pegged as "girly drinks," especially the pumpkin spice latte.
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