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2	* [[spoiler:It makes sense that Goku and Vegeta's new forms are basically 'Super Saiyan with the power of Super Saiyan God'. Remember that the Super Saiyan God form burned out incredibly quickly, while Super Saiyan is a form they already mastered. By channeling that power through that form, they're basically using a ''stable'' version of Super Saiyan God without the draw backs.]]
3	** [[spoiler:Furthermore, the movie outright confirms that the Super Saiyan God is both a unique transformation unto itself as well as the first step in the Saiyan's body absorbing a divine tier of power and becoming what's referred to as a Saiyan Beyond God. Also, the Super Saiyan God transformation, and thus a Saiyan's true entry into the God tier, first begins to manifest itself through a bright heavenly turquoise blue aura. Keeping those things in mind, it's only fitting that going Super Saiyan while consciously tapping into that divine tier would appear as a bright heavenly turquoise blue Super Saiyan.]]
4	* [[spoiler:Rather than being some imaginative new concept ala Cooler's Shredder-like super evolution form, Frieza's ultimate evolution is a GoldenSuperMode with the same shape of his initial final form. Initially one would think the biggest statement about this (if one doesn't think Creator/AkiraToriyama's just being lazy) is here's yet another example in how the most powerful character forms in the ''Dragon Ball'' universe aren't necessarily the ones packing the biggest pythons (see the ''[[Fridge/DragonBallZBattleOfGods Battle of Gods]]'' fridge for more details on that one). However, what people might more easily overlook is that, while a bit rearranged, his second most prominent color is still {{purple\|IsPowerful}}. The color combination of purple and gold have long been associated with royalty. ''[[GoldColoredSuperiority Frieza is reclaiming his place as the Emperor of the Universe.]]'']]
5	-->[[spoiler:'''Frieza''': I know gold's a bit gauche, but I wanted to ensure you grasp my new position atop the pecking order.]]
6	** It's been suggested that Frieza's ascension to such a high level of strength is something of a cheap excuse, but in Daizenshuu 7 listed Frieza's 100% power as 120 million, whereas Super Saiyan Goku's just edged him out at 150 million. This means that Goku's base strength at the time was three million. Frieza is just that strong naturally without a day of training to hone his skills or grow stronger. Knowing how Dragon Ball power scaling tends to go, it only makes sense that he'd ascend to such terrifying heights once he actually applied himself.
7	** [[spoiler:Frieza's ultimate form in terms of raw power being stronger than God-tier Goku but then quickly wearing out due to low endurance is this on two levels. First off, it's an exaggerated CallBack to how the anime played out Frieza's 100% final form transformation (in the manga Super Saiyan Goku's clear superiority to 100% Frieza was more readily apparent from the start).[[note]]In fact, the retelling arc in ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'' goes ''even further'' with this than the movie does.[[/note]] Second, it's explained as a result of Frieza never bothering to master his newfound power before coming back for revenge against the Saiyans. Of course he wouldn't—not just because of his implacable rage, but also because he'd never trained his body or acquired any real new form before in his life (his pale ghost "final" form is his true base form and all the prior forms are {{power limiter}}s) so he wouldn't know to pay attention to little details like that.]]
8	*** [[spoiler: It also makes sense that Frieza would value raw power over control and endurance. He's so used to steamrolling everyone with force alone that he would see no value in actually improving his overall battle skills, despite it being one of his many downfalls in his saga. Which makes sense too since Frieza has shown several times that he never really learns from his mistakes]].
9	*** Also, all Frieza really knew was that Goku had surpassed Majin Buu, something that only took [=SSJ3=] tier of power. If he never gotten the God form then the fight really would have ended as fast as Frieza was expecting it to.
10	** It's implied that the golden form is actually Frieza subconsciously making it that color and someone else of his species would probably have a different color. Why gold + purple? Because his greatest fear was the legend of the Super Saiyan, the last of which he saw was a bright golden aura. Purple, on the other hand, is not only regal, but ''his color''. Thus he's literally saying this new form was his Super Saiyan form.
11	%%* [[spoiler:Super Saiyan ''Gods'' vs. Frieza's Ultimate ''Evolution''.]]
12	* [[spoiler: Frieza's character sheet lists him as an eviler counterpart to Vegeta, and their similarities and differences are further displayed in this movie. Vegeta dedicated himself to training after witnessing what it did for Goku, just as Frieza does here, hence, the similarities. Vegeta conceived of attaining a level beyond Super Saiyan and was the first to do so. Frieza attains a level beyond what he thought was his most powerful form here. However this is where they differ; ignoring that Frieza's idea wasn't entirely original even if Cooler isn't considered canon, when Vegeta managed to achieve a new form and become an Ascended Super Saiyan, he didn't just rush off to show play wit his new toy the way Frieza does- according to Trunks, he reached the transformation in only three months, but still made use of the full year they had in the time chamber to ''master'' that form, finding it's weaknesses and limitations in a way that even Trunks failed to do. It makes sense that even though Goku and Vegeta both recognize the flaw in Frieza's training, Vegeta is the one to actually call him out on it, because that was a mistake Vegeta ''didn't'' make.]]
13	* Frieza's hell. It isn't the first time we see an evil ruler (although, by then Dabura was reduced to EliteMook) who died on Earth getting a similar fate.
14	* Frieza's training made him able to go from someone dwarfed by androids to a power level much above Majin Buu's. Much like him, Shisami was able to go from Dodoria's level to one above imperfect Cell.
15	* Despite the apparent HypocriticalHumor, it makes perfect sense that Roshi is the one calling out Gohan of his lack of training. Yes, he didn't do much during ''Dragon Ball Z'', but that was because by then he was really old and completely outclassed by Goku. Until then, he kept training and fought his good deal of battles. Unlike him, however, Gohan is young and in the top tier, giving him no such excuses. And, if you consider that the average soldier in Frieza's army must be ''at least'' as strong as Raditz was (considering they trained alongside Frieza and Shisami), the fact he curb-stomped many of them means Roshi ''did'' train in those twenty years.
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19	* [[spoiler: Why does Frieza's weakness always turns out to be the stamina? Because it's the one thing he never had any reason to consider. Until his fight with Goku, he was used to just [[NoSell no selling]] and [[CurbStompBattle curb stomping]] his opponents without making any efforts. Hence, he never had his endurance tested. When you think about it, it's completely possible that the stamina drain was never an actual flaw of his 100% original form or his new, golden one, but Frieza's own incapability of fighting long battles]].
20	* Gohan not training makes a lot of sense when you realize he's seen his father die at least once, and been alive through two or three of his dad's deaths. He also knows that dedicating your life to training means missing out on time spent with your family. Gohan's badass decay wasn't so much the result of laziness as it was a conscious choice to give up one lifestyle for another.
21	** The other characters (including every single member of his family, blood, and by marriage) learned how to fight for fun and profit, and tested their skills in friendly sportsmanlike tournaments -- which Gohan is also shown enjoying. However, Gohan didn't learn how to fight for fun, he was basically drafted because he was born immensely powerful.
22	* Earth's special forces should be many leagues beyond Frieza's soldiers by this point, yet they still break a sweat fighting them off. Given that they've only ever been seen fighting in one-on-one battles where they only have to focus on the enemy in front of them, it stands to reason that they're unprepared for a 176-to-1 fight where they would have to watch every angle. In fact, the only characters who do have experience fighting entire armies are Goku and Vegeta, both of whom are busy training with Whis.
23	* Jaco doesn't kill any of his opponents. That's not because he's weak, but because he's part of the SpacePolice. When a law enforcer uses lethal force on a target, they can always expect to be rewarded with a pile of paperwork. Jaco isn't reporting the Sayians living on earth ''because'' of the paperwork involved.
24	* At first, one may wonder why Frieza was merely in pieces since Trunks also blasted them into ash but it makes sense, Shenron brought Frieza back in the state he died in. Frieza would have died instantly after being chopped up, prior to Trunks blasting him.
25	* It makes sense that Frieza's Empire is able to restore Frieza from pieces. After the Namek Saga Frieza was cut in half and had cybernetic implants grafted on in the place of the missing and damaged parts. It's very likely that this was only ever intended to be temporary and that Frieza's minions started working on a way to restore the rest of his body at that point that they managed to perfect in the years since. Even though Frieza died there would be no reason to stop that research. That's if they didn't already possess the ability to do so and Frieza's impatience meant he ran off immediately to kill Goku instead of using it.
26	* Why did Beerus tell Whis to be quiet about telling Vegeta that he (Beerus) asked Frieza to blow up planet Vegeta? Beerus may be thinking with his stomach, too. If Vegeta gets angry, it may stop Bulma from making more tasty treats.
27	* Frieza declaring that after training, his power levels might rise to 1.3 million is [[SoLastSeason pretty funny]], but there are several reasons behind it. 1) Because of the scouter's inability to read exceptionally-high power levels, no one's been able to assign a power level to his forms (aside from the first) in-universe - his first form's 530 thousand power level is the only one he knows he's working with. 2) Going off this, Frieza's never trained before in his life, so he has no idea what increase to expect; he's making an estimate. 3) This estimated increase is only for his first form, the one that suppresses his power the most... because his other, less power-limiting forms, would increase in magnitudes ''well beyond that.''
28	* Super Saiyan God is created by five righteous Saiyans channeling their power into another and is also entirely distinct from the power they used to create it. It starts as a blue aura that fizzles and turns red. This is because it is not actually generated by the Saiyans themselves but phenomenon that is attracted to them. Properties shift blue when they rapidly approach and shift red when they rapidly depart. Super Saiyan God turned red in the previous cases ''because'' the users couldn't hold onto it.
29	* [[spoiler: Goku getting the killing shot at Frieza makes perfect sense when you consider that Goku never got to kill Frieza in the main timeline. He was supposed to when Frieza first came to Earth, but Future Trunks pulled a steal-kill. So, this was Goku finally getting the chance to finished the job. It also works since fans wanted Vegeta to be the one to kill Frieza. He didn't get his chance because his future son took his turn]].
30	* Beerus seeming OrangeAndBlueMorality and KarmaHoudini during ''Battle of the Gods'' make much more sense when Whis at one point explains [[spoiler: he has the ability to go back in time and literally undo Beerus destruction. So any innocents killed during one of the gods temper tantrums can be restored.]] And it's no wonder everyone in the universe who knows of him still fears the god of destruction [[spoiler: since it appears Goku and Vegeta are the first people Whis ever explained this to.]]
31	* Frieza complaining about his "punishment" seems comical at first until you realize that he's been listening to that same song, non stop, for ''over a decade'' at this point. When he died Gohan was, at best, 10. Gohan is now an adult with his own kid, making him in his early 20's at least during this movie. No wonder he was pissed at Sorbet being so slow.
32	* Beerus mentions to Bulma that, because he likes the food on earth, he would protect her in case Frieza did win and so she should stick close to him. [[spoiler: He meant this literally; Whis's protection bubble only saved about 8 feet of Earth from Frieza's planet buster.]]
33	* At first, it may seem weird how Earth's Special Forces against Frieza's army is limited to just Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, Gohan, Roshi, and Jaco. But when you think about, it's because the first five has had experience dealing with people similar to Frieza or even fought against the tyrant before. Piccolo, Krillin, and Gohan fought Frieza on Namek, Tien fought against Cell (who is part-Frieza), and Master Roshi fought against King Piccolo, who is pretty much Frieza in all but name, species, and power. Jaco's presence could also be that he knows about Frieza and his army more than most people, and thus would be aware to what he's facing.
34	* Despite all their training alongside Frieza, the soldiers of his army are all pathetically weak. They use amateur tactics like relying heavily on numbers against a single target, following someone within a cave where they could ambush them, and just firing ki-blasts to whatever they see. This makes sense, however, as they had only 4 months to train, and they lacked Frieza's hidden potential to make up for it. Given how they've been losing planets without Frieza being around, it's entirely possible the soldiers have grown so reliant on him that their own potential as fighters has been stunted.
35	* In the Buu Saga, Piccolo told Vegeta when he dies, he will remain in Hell until he is reborn into a new lifeform without any memories of his past life. In this film, Frieza has been stuck in his tree for 10 years. However, if you consider Kid Buu, he was reincarnated immediately. Meaning not only did Kid Buu didn't live in a personal Hell, he didn't have to whereas Frieza's reincarnation will take maybe decades or centuries.
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38	* Yes, even before the movie has premiered! Dende's Shenron can grant '''2''' wishes. As revealed by the trailers, one will be used to revive Frieza but what about the second? Though his {{Mook}}s wasted the second wish, it's not hard to imagine Frieza would have wished for immortality if he had had the chance.
39	* The fact that Frieza gets revived by a wish means that the Earth Dragonballs ''don't'' have the 1 year time limit like before. Who knows who else can come back now...
40	** Hurry up with being reincarnated, Uub!
41	*** Cell is made up of the cells of Saiyans and Frieza's race, both of which have been shown to have forms with power capable of battling Gods. Now imagine if he was able to tap into the potential of both of those races...
42	* If they hadn't been interrupted, Frieza's men had every intent of bringing King Cold back as well, who was either only a little weaker than Frieza himself or ''stronger'' than him. What would have happened if King Cold had trained with his son and [[spoiler:reached his GoldenSuperMode]]?
43	** Remember, Frieza [[spoiler:lost because [[RevengeBeforeReason he went off to kill Goku before mastering his new form]], resulting in PowerIncontinence.]] [[NoNonsenseNemesis King Cold wouldn't be as rash]], so it's likely he'd train his [[spoiler:GoldenSuperMode ''not to have that withdrawal'']]. Add to the fact he's at least almost as strong as Frieza to start, and even if only he was revived [[spoiler:Goku and Vegeta wouldn't have the advantage they had against Frieza]].
44	** Knowing King Cold's character and the fact he was left mostly intact when he was killed, he would have most likely destroyed the Earth once Sobert and Tagoma cleared the planet, taking the most practical solution in getting his revenge and being done with the entire thing so he can go back to running his empire.
45	** Alternatively, King Cold would probably listen to Togoma's advice and simply leave the Earth alone. Especially if he learns that Goku defeated Buu.
46	** Worse, if King Cold had trained to achieve his own GoldenSuperMode, both he and Frieza would've had each other to train with. As such, they would've had a being of comparable power to test themselves against, which means they very likely would've noticed the fatigue issue and corrected it, and likely would've been much stronger in the end because unlike Frieza alone they would've been able to push themselves much harder.
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50	* As mentioned in the NightmareFuel page, it took only ''four months'' of training for Frieza to be on par with Super Saiyan God Goku which begs the question ''how strong can his species get?'' [[note]] It has been stated by the author that Frieza and King Cold (and the Ginyu Force, incidentally) are mutants that are much more powerful than any among their race and also more cruel. So, although Frieza's species maybe naturally strong, Frieza is a freak of nature even among them. [[/note]]
51	* Back during their first fight on Namek, Goku reasoned that Frieza held back with his [[ApocalypseHow Planet Buster]] because he wanted to fight the legendary Super Saiyan on somewhat even terms, noting that if Frieza ''really'' wanted to destroy the planet, there was nothing Goku could do to stop him. [[spoiler: Here we get to see that Goku was right.]]
52	* Because Frieza was dead for longer than a year, Shenron brought him back in the state he was when he died: in pieces. That means Frieza was ''[[AndIMustScream still alive]]'' after Future Trunks cut him to pieces.
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