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6	!!Franchises with their own pages:
7	* ''FandomRivalry/{{Gundam}}''
8	* ''FandomRivalry/{{Pokemon}}''
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12	* SubbingVersusDubbing. The debate was even worse during the economic recession around TheNewTens, but a lot of this comes from personal preferences.
13	* Of the major anime distributors, there is the Creator/{{Funimation}} fans vs. Creator/SentaiFilmworks fans. The former will often criticize Sentai Filmworks for their rushed releases, poor dubbing direction, and using niche voice actors while the latter will often criticize Funimation for monopolization of the anime industry (a sentiment that only intensified throughout the English-speaking anime community in general after their merger with Platform/{{Crunchyroll}} and acquisition of other anime-licensing companies, such as [[Creator/NozomiEntertainment Right Stuf/Nozomi Entertainment]]) and dubious marketing strategies and releases (particularly with Kadokawa Pictures titles). Regardless, Funimation vs. Sentai Filmworks is considered to be one of the biggest rivalries of the anime industry (both fanbase- and business- wise).
14	** An interesting wrinkle here is the fact that such a rivalry for the most part ''didn't'' exist between Funimation and Creator/ADVFilms (which more or less restructured into Sentai and Creator/{{Seraphim Digital\|Studios}} after its liquidation in 2009). The argument about dub quality -- to the point of some more diehard Funi fans invoking PoorMansSubstitute on Sentai -- can also raise eyebrows; several [=VAs=] who are nowadays more associated with their work for Funimation regularly pulled double duty for both companies[[note]]likely owning to ADV and Funimation both being based in UsefulNotes/{{Texas}}[[/note]]... and continued to do so after Sentai's formation. In fact, the later half of TheNewTens and beyond saw Sentai regulars start popping up in Funi dubs and vice versa, and the two companies themselves [[FriendlyRivalry are on generally friendly terms]] if social media is anything to go by.
15	* Fans who stream their anime from licensed services vs. fans who watch fansubbed anime stored locally on their devices. The former often cite supporting the anime industry and having more free space on their devices, while the latter criticize official streaming services for their poor subtitle and translation quality and don't want to have to be connected online to get their fix.
16	* Spats between fans of the various "-dere" archetypes aren't uncommon. {{Tsundere}} versus {{Yandere}} are the most common because they're the two most popular. There's also "classic tsundere" versus "modern tsundere" fans.
17	* Fans of YaoiGenre versus fans of YuriGenre. The two often don't intersect and tend to dislike the other. Since despite being similarly melodramatic stories about same-sex relationships on the surface, the two have very different cliches attributed to them that attract different fans. A common explanation is that heterosexual people are {{squick}}ed out by {{fanservice}} of their own gender, but that makes no sense when you consider that the Yuri Genre is also extremely popular with women.
18	** ...which also caused the infighting within the Yuri Genre fans, especially male Yuri Genre fans vs. female Yuri Genre fans, with some rather sexist shades in the rivalry. Female Yuri Genre fans argue that male fans oversexualise the yuri couples that should've stayed romantic and that it's made for female audience, not male ones, while male yuri fans argue that GirlOnGirlIsHot, be it sexual or romantic and that male audience kept the Yuri Genre alive.
19	* There's a rivalry between "classic" and "modern" SportsStories fans. Fans of pre-2000s series like ''Manga/SlamDunk'', ''Manga/HajimeNoIppo'', and ''Manga/TomorrowsJoe'' believe that newer series are [[BishonenJumpSyndrome trying]] [[HoYay too hard]] to pander to female fans and aren't focused on sports enough, while fans of newer works like ''Manga/BigWindup'', ''Manga/{{Haikyuu}}'', and ''Manga/AceOfTheDiamond'' often find older series displeasing for the opposite reasons.
20	* Fans of {{Mecha}} anime loathe ''Manga/KOn'' They blame it for starting a {{Moe}} boom which saturated the anime industry and also criticize the show's lack of plot and art style. While fans of ''K-On!'' tend to ignore mecha fans, they do contest that ''K-On!'' actually benefitted the anime market and that mecha fans are merely [[NostalgiaFilter blinded by nostalgia]].
21	* On the internet, {{Hentai}} fans vs. {{Ecchi}} fans, although the reality isn't very clear cut anymore, thanks to RuleThirtyFour causing ''endless'' layers of overlaps between hentai and ecchi.
22	* Hell, even anime ''fansites'' have this problem: [=MyAnimeList=] fans vs. [=AniDB=] fans vs. [=AniSearch=] fans vs. Anime Character Database fans vs. Anime News Network fans.
23	* ''Anime/AquarionLogos'' versus ''Anime/ConcreteRevolutioChoujinGensou''. While mostly restrained to [[Website/FourChan /m/]], fans of both series clash with each other because they share many similarities: Starting in the latter half of 2015, tokusatsu and mecha anime references are abundant, the main heroine being inept, over the top action scenes, both their fans claiming they are cultural artifacts and meant only for intellectuals, and neither made decent money in sales. ''Logos'' fans get accused for having their characters poorly written and favoring MonsterOfTheWeek episodes while ''[=ConRevo=]'' fans get accused for having their story chopped up into an incoherent mess and having atrocious music. The only difference is that Anime News Network praised ''[=ConRevo=]'', but due to the site's biases in the ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' community mecha fans rarely take ANN seriously these days. Not helped by the fact that ''Logos''[='=] review admitted to not understanding it or even watching [[Anime/GenesisOfAquarion the first installment of the franchise]].
24	* ''Literature/TheAsteriskWar'' versus ''Literature/ChivalryOfAFailedKnight''. Both of these anime aired in Fall 2015 on the exact same day and the exact same time as each other, and contain many similarities between their settings, plot, and characters that they could easily be considered as "twin sister" series. The backlash against each other was to be expected, however, things got really heated when the latter series managed to pull off some things that greatly distinguished it from the former series and light novel adaptations in general[[note]]like Ikki getting into a relationship with Stella very early on, which was seen as ''the'' defining moment of the series[[/note]], turning it into something rather unique that greatly surprised everyone while ''The Asterisk War'' pretty much ended up being a ClicheStorm that everyone else expected it to be. Not helping matters is that ''The Asterisk War'' managed to get a second season in addition to its light novels getting localized in English by Creator/YenPress, while ''Chivalry of a Failed Knight'' still sits with one season and its light novels are still [[NoExportForYou Japan exclusives]] (aside of a relatively brief period of availability in e-book form via Kadokawa and J-Novel Club before they had to yank the plug in February 2022 at the Japanese publisher's request... only for the light novels to once again return to the global BOOK☆WALKER store starting in late February 2024).
25	* The ''Anime/AttackOnTitan'' fandom had a brief rivalry with ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', ''Manga/VinlandSaga'', and ''Manga/OnePiece'' fans, due to many vocal critics of ''[=AoT=]'' often using first two titles as a go-to examples of dark stories that handle themes of trauma and vengeance better and have a protagonist much less toxic and healthier than Eren (especially in light of Eren's popularity in certain right-wing circles). As for ''One Piece'', the same critics would point to it as having a much more clear and unambigious anti-fascist message, compared to ''Attack on Titan''[='s=] infamous confused aesop. And on top of that, ''Attack on Titan'' and ''One Piece'' had long been competing on takubon sales charts and anime watch lists.
26	* ''Anime/BloodPlus'' and ''Anime/BloodC'' fans remain at each other's throats. The former group regards the latter as the worst in the ''Blood'' franchise and Saya Kisaragi as a FailureHeroine who can't save lives while the latter group finds Saya Otonashi to be useless and overly dependent on Haji. There's also those who like [[Anime/BloodTheLastVampire the original OVA]] but regard the two spinoffs as cheap knockoffs.
27	* ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are two of the most popular DarkerAndEdgier mecha deconstructions. There is a large amount of debate on which series does it best.
28	* Fans of ''Anime/CasshernSins'' vs. fans of ''Anime/ErgoProxy''.
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30	* ''Manga/ChainsawMan'' is the hugely popular shonen whose AnimatedAdaptation had been hyped for months with a particularly large population of die-hard fans swearing it was high art, airing Fall 2022. ''Manga/BocchiTheRock'' is a SliceOfLife about social anxiety that near instantly became a cult hit with ridiculously high ratings, airing Fall 2022. Cue ceasless bickering, despite the fact the two couldn't be more different.
31	* ''Anime/CodeGeass'' and ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' had some of this, as the two shows aired only a few days apart and are essentially polar opposites in terms of content, [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism worldview]], and "hardness". This is made more amusing with the English voice cast, which both feature Creator/YuriLowenthal and Creator/JohnnyYongBosch as main cast members whose ideals clash with each other (in both series, the former is a passionate idealist while the latter is a calculating, sometimes NecessarilyEvil pragmatist). The difference is that Lowenthal is the star of ''Gurren Lagann'' and Bosch is the star of ''Code Geass'', with the other's ideals being portrayed as misguidedly LawfulStupid. ''VideoGame/{{Super Robot Wars Z}}2'' almost seems to [[FandomNod nod and wink]] to this conflict by having Kamina and Zero dislike each other at first (Kamina thinks Zero is too shady, Lelouch thinks Kamina is just a loud meathead) before they establish a mutual trust and respect [[FireForgedFriends by fighting alongside one another]].
32	* ''Manga/DeathNote'' and ''Anime/CodeGeass'' both came out around the same time, feature {{bishonen}} MagnificentBastard protagonists, and have a lot of HoYay. They have a rivalry due to the similarities, though most comparisons are superficial as they're vastly different in genre and story.
33	* ''Manga/DeathNote'' vs. ''Manga/LiarGame'' are both psychological thrillers that features {{Magnificent Bastard}}s facing off against one another in an intricate and increasingly complicated GambitPileup. There has been some debates on which series managed to pull off the intellectual warfare better, whose characters employed the smarter tactics in dealing with their opponents, etc.
34	* ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' has a pretty deeply BrokenBase going on. Pick a season, any season, and no matter how you felt about it someone out there will tell you how wrong you are. And Goddramon help you if you so much as mention ''Anime/DigimonFrontier''.
35	* ''Manga/DragonBall'':
36	** ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' versus ''Anime/SailorMoon'', what with the shows being complete opposites in every way besides being anime aired in the 90s, making it into something of a battle of the sexes. The fact that they occupied the same timeslot for quite a while didn't help... Although it is HilariousInHindsight, seeing as how the two shows were produced by the same company (Creator/ToeiAnimation) and have very similar styles. However, there is a fair amount of FriendlyFandoms going on as well due to the large number of fan-made crossovers.
37	** The ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' fandom itself is home to quite a few rivalries and sub-rivalries, including (but not limited to) the Creator/{{Funimation}} dub vs. Creator/TheOceanGroup dub, Shunsuke Kikuchi's score vs. Bruce Faulconer's, the 1989 anime vs. [[Anime/DragonBallZKai the 2009 recut]], and ''Anime/DragonBallGT'' vs. ''Anime/DragonBallSuper''.
38	* For some reason, most likely due to both airing on Creator/AdultSwim, one of these existed for a while between ''Anime/FullmetalAlchemist2003'' and ''Manga/InuYasha'' fans.
39	* In the Spring 2013 anime season, we had ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'' and the (continuing into summer) ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', both animated by Creator/ProductionIG. Some ''Titan'' fans blamed ''Gargantia'' for "stealing" some of their better animators and money, resulting in some OffModel scenes and still shots (even though many of those stills originated in the ''Attack on Titan'' manga). It didn't help that ''Titan'' Episode 6 featured some of the most egregrious stills and "QUALITY", while ''Gargantia'''s Episode 6 featured a particularly well-animated bellydancing scene.
40	* ''Anime/GirlsUndPanzer'' has an in-universe example between two Sensha-Do styles. The Euro-Asian Classic Style uses panzers in as near mint condition as possible, whereas the American Unlimited Style emphasizes heavy customization.
41	* ''Literature/HaruhiSuzumiya'':
42	** ''Haruhi Suzumiya'' vs. ''Manga/KOn'': This stems from the fact that these shows were both adapted by Kyoto Animation, and that the second season and the premiere season of ''Haruhi'' and ''K-On!'' respectively were both broadcast during the spring of 2009. This is especially since ''Haruhi'' returned from a three-year hiatus, and its second season was highly anticipated at that time. Among other things, Several ''Haruhi'' fans blamed ''K-On!'' for the OffModel way Haruhi was drawn in (her upper teeth showing and her head being rounded at the edges), never mind the fact Creator/KyoAni [[OlderThanTheyThink first used that style]] on their ''VisualNovel/{{Clannad}}'' adaptation. The fans also blamed ''K-On!'' for ruining the second season after the success of the ''Disappearance'' film. ''K-On!'' fans would retort by pointing out the [[BrokenBase widely-contested]] [[GroundhogDayLoop Endless Eight]] arc. However, tensions between the two fandoms have cooled down over time as fans of Kyoto Animation as a whole have to come to enjoy both for different reasons.
43	** Mind you, if Haruhi EVER enters a power level battle discussion, it'll be outright chaos as people argue who is stronger out of Haruhi and your favourite mecha that jumped out of Pandora's box.
44	* ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' versus ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''. This one started over the "Nice Boat Incident" involving the murder of a Japanese police chief. While ''School Days'' merely got its final episode postponed, there were plans to outright cancel the ''Higurashi'' anime, right around the time of the big reveal of the identity of the BigBad. The media was also much harsher on ''Higurashi'' with far fetched logic and outright misrepresentation of the series narrative trying to connect the series to the murder. Needless to say, the fandoms have not gotten along ever since.
45	* Then there's the idol anime war, which is ''Anime/TheIdolMaster'' vs. ''Anime/LoveLive'' vs. ''VideoGame/{{Aikatsu}}'' vs. ''VideoGame/PriPara''. This plays into what Viga of ''WebVideo/IdolsOfAnime'' calls the "Idol [[UsefulNotes/SengokuPeriod Sengoku Jidai]]" of the 2010s, with spillover rivalries between real life idol groups ([[Music/HelloProject Morning Musume]], Music/AKB48, Music/MomoiroCloverZ, etc) and anime idol groups.
46	* Having produced some of the biggest anime blockbusters of TurnOfTheMillennium and TheNewTens that did not fit existing genres, some rivalry has developed between Creator/KyotoAnimation and Creator/StudioShaft.
47	* ''Manga/{{Lady}}'' (1987) has one with ''Manga/CandyCandy'' (1975), because there's no doubt that ''Lady'' drew a lot from it (and even [[Creator/YokoHanabusa the author]] admitted to being a huge fan of ''Candy♡Candy''). However, ''Lady!!'' takes a different turn with the plot threads and also has a more serious tone. Some fans allege ''Lady!!'' is a SerialNumbersFiledOff version of ''Candy'', while others believe that ''Lady!!'' is a [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome better]] [[CharacterDevelopment version]] of it. Not helping matters is that in many parts of the world, ''Lady!!'' was introduced first (mainly the Middle East and the Philippines), leading them to accuse ''Candy'' of being the ripoff.
48	** Even worse, in UsefulNotes/SouthKorea when the ''Manga/{{Lady}}'' movie was released, the Korean dub studio realized how similar it was to ''Manga/CandyCandy'', and decided to change the name of the movie to ''Lady Candy'' (캔디레디). They also changed protagonist Lynn's name to Candy, believing that it would help the series sell more ([[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idxZbOP9EAs See here]]). This led to many Koreans confusing ''Lady'' as part of ''Candy''.
49	** Wanna make things even more confusing? One of the reasons Nagita and Igarashi had a legal fight was because Igarashi tried to publish ''Candy'' merchandise under the name ''[[https://web.archive.org/web/20071018031300/http://sekichiku.freehosting.net/cc/candy_ladylady.htm Lady Lady]]''!
50	* Fans of ''Manga/LuckyStar'', ''Manga/AzumangaDaioh'', ''Manga/HidamariSketch'', and ''Manga/KOn'' have been known to be bitter toward each other as they're all comedic SliceOfLife series based around young girls. Occasionally ''Manga/StrawberryMarshmallow'' gets added to the mix.
51	* ''Anime/{{Macross}}'' versus ''Anime/{{Robotech}}'': Many ''Macross'' fans look at ''Robotech'' as a [[{{Macekre}} bastardized Americanization]]. Some ''Robotech'' fans consider the addition of ''Anime/SuperDimensionCavalrySouthernCross'' and ''Anime/GenesisClimberMospeada'' to the original ''Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross'' storyline to improve all three series, or at least prefer them to the official ''Macross'' sequels. The ''Robotech'' fandom is also split between people who enjoyed the licensed RPG, comic book adaptations, or novelizations, and the "purists" who treated all the spin-off material as bastardizations.
52	* It happened with ''Manga/MajesticPrince'' and ''Anime/ValvraveTheLiberator'' in 2013 as both were mecha anime that premiered on the same day despite have nothing in common aside from being in the same genre and being loaded with {{Fanservice}}; ''MJP'' fans often take it a step further with claims of how well received their anime was while ''Valvrave'' was comparatively panned, and in turn the fans of the other show countered that ''Majestic Prince'' sold less copies.
53	** More recently, ''Valvrave'' hatred has squared off against other recent mecha anime including ''Manga/{{Daimidaler\|TheSoundRobot}}'', ''[[Anime/FuuunIshinDaiShogun Dai Shogun]]'', ''Anime/CaptainEarth'', ''Anime/GundamReconguistaInG'', ''Anime/CrossAnge'', ''Anime/AquarionEvol'', ''Anime/EurekaSevenAO'', ''[[Anime/M3TheDarkMetal M3]]'', and ''Anime/AldnoahZero''. In terms of previously aired shows, ''Anime/InfiniteRyvius'' seems to have the most comparisons and hatred, even more than ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEEDDestiny SEED Destiny]]'', due to both shows having many of the same tropes.
54	* ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'':
55	** A notable one between this title and ''Manga/BlackClover'', as both fought to be the new flagship series of ''Magazine/ShonenJump'' in the post-''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' era. ''Black Clover'' became a target for mockery due to its overuse of cliches and formulaic storytelling in counterpart to ''My Hero Academia'''s more unusual approach to the ShonenGenre getting praise. The rivalry grew bitter as the former's fans felt the acknowledgement that the latter work was getting was undeserved, accusing it of being as much of a ClicheStorm.
56	** ''My Hero Academia'' also has one with ''Manga/{{Boruto}}'', a work whose fans feel is truly deserving of becoming the new flagship shonen series over ''My Hero Academia'', seeing as it is a SequelSeries of ''Naruto''.
57	* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' vs. ''Anime/RahXephon'': Fans of the former accuse the latter of copying many elements from their series (as well as ''End of Evangelion'' to a lesser extent) while fans of the latter counter by saying theirs is superior critically. It did not help either side that the plots for both anime franchises were very tightly merged together in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsMX''.
58	* ''Manga/{{Nichijou}}'':
59	** For the Spring 2011 season, there's a small rivalry between ''Manga/AChannel'' and ''Manga/{{Nichijou}}'', especially because of a simple timeslot conflict. ''A Channel'' fans cry ScrewedByTheNetwork; ''Nichijou'' fans call "FollowTheLeader" and "bland" for the former.
60	** The ''Nichijou'' fandom also has a strong rivalry with fans of ''Manga/DailyLivesOfHighSchoolBoys'' (''Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou''), or [[FanNickname "Nichibros"]], over which anime with "Nichijou" in the title is superior. Interestingly enough, ''Nichijou'' and ''Daily Lives'' also are FriendlyFandoms, with much of one fandom being well-acquainted with and fond of the other fandom's target work.
61	* Throughout the TurnOfTheMillennium and into TheNewTens, the most popular shonen battle anime/manga were ''Manga/OnePiece'', ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' and ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'', generally referred as the [[FanNickname Big 3]]. Since they're all the same genre, they have a similar core story structure, so it's entirely possible to enjoy more than one at the same time. However, it's also ''because'' of those similarities that fans of ''all three'' are at a MeleeATrois, but it's surprisingly evened out: for every one fan who likes one and dislikes two, others like two and dislike one, while just as many like all of them equally. This is part of why their popularity is so enduring even years later (though it helps that all three had long runs of some sort, be it through [[LongRunners simple longevity]], ExpandedUniverse works, SequelSeries, or what have you).
62	** ''Manga/{{Toriko}}'' quickly established itself as a powerhouse in Japan. Some said that it was replacing ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' as a flagship manga for ''Magazine/ShonenJump'' (in light of ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''[='s=] anime ending[[note]]prior to being UnCanceled in TheNewTwenties, that is[[/note]]), and [[Creator/EiichiroOda the author]] of ''Manga/OnePiece'' himself had declared ''Toriko'' as his biggest rival.
63	** Occasionally, ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' would have been added to the mix, with the debate centering on whether it's too different to compare to the other three, and if not, whether it's the best out of the four. Notably, that discussion is far less heated (especially once ''FMA'' ended), if only due to ''FMA'' fans having their ''own'' Fandom Rivalry ''within their own base'' (e.g. the first anime vs. the manga and the second anime, as mentioned earlier).
64	** In spite of both having their anime version end prematurely, ''Manga/FairyTail'' and ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' are creeping their way into the debate, though neither are in the same level as ''Manga/{{Toriko}}'' right now. The argument over ''Fairy Tail'' is whether it has the deepest character relationships, or if it's too much of a {{Fanservice}}-laden series. The argument over ''Blue Exorcist'' is between those who feel it [[PlayingWithATrope plays around with]] a lot of supernatural show tropes, and those who think it's a generic shonen with prettier characters. Though since the ''Fairy Tail'' anime resumed for its final season in late 2018 after a brief hiatus, it's possible that it might be able to establish itself better.
65	*** Meanwhile, fans of ''Fairy Tail'' and fans of ''One Piece'' are often at each others' throats due to the similar art styles and how ''Fairy Tail'''s author Creator/HiroMashima vehemently denies being influenced by anything related to ''One Piece''.
66	** ''Manga/Reborn2004'', surprisingly, has avoided much of this discussion, but there are still some sections that debate about it all the same. The argument over the series is whether it has great CharacterDevelopment on the protagonists, or if its CastFullOfPrettyBoys is too much of a shoe-in for female-oriented {{Fanservice}}.
67	** Since ''One Piece'' hasn't been topping the charts in terms of yearly sales anymore, it's naturally come to brawl with some of the other popular shounen fandoms, ''especially'' ''Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba''. Using sales as a point of superiority is something both fandoms are guilty of, and this escalated as ''Demon Slayer'' continued to be adapted into anime. See below.
68	** FandomRivalry is actually a natural result of the competitive nature of the manga industry. Within the ''Jump'' magazines themselves, there's a table of contents where series placed higher are seen as more valued by ''Jump'' and readers want to see their favorite series at the top, sometimes driving them to attack competing series with criticisms to make it look worse for other readers. It gets even more intense when there's a new serialization round where the success of a new manga will mean the cancellation of another and even manga that have earned a safe spot in ''Jump'' are often used as a point of comparison. If there's a reason any potential fan has problems getting into the manga community, chances are it's due to this hostility.
69	* ''Anime/PlanetWith'' versus ''[[Franchise/{{Zoids}} Zoids Wild]]''; both anime aired in summer 2018 starring cat-themed main mecha and on [[Website/FourChan /m/]] one can't go making a thread of one without the other being hurled verbal potshots. ''Planet With'' is often slammed for unoriginality and slow pacing while ''Zoids Wild'' is often mocked for being childish and fansubs stopping at Episode 7.
70	* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'':
71	** ''Puella Magi Madoka Magica'' vs. ''Literature/InfiniteStratos'' for domination of the winter 2011 anime season. ''IS'' fans insist that ''Madoka'' is [[{{Deconstruction}} pretentious]] while ''Madoka'' fans consider ''IS'' to be another stupid, generic [[UnwantedHarem harem]] show.
72	** Speaking of ''Madoka'', looks like ''[[Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanoha Nanoha]]'' fans are gearing up for a [[http://nanofate.us/content/sample-2c9f8cf70b915f9e showdown]] about being dethroned as the most popular non-standard magical girl series.
73	** ''Madoka'' fans also do heated battle with fans of classic magical girl shows like ''Manga/SailorMoon'', ''Manga/CardcaptorSakura'', and ''Anime/PrettyCure'' due to the vastly differing tones. ''Madoka'' fans often dislike classic magical girl series for being [[GirlShowGhetto feminine]] or "boring", while classic fans hate how DarkerAndEdgier ''Madoka'' is and often believe that it's ruining the genre by making series actually aimed at little girls passe.
74	** There is one with the fanbase of ''Anime/RevolutionaryGirlUtena'' over which is the better {{Deconstruction}} of the genre, if ''Madoka'' is considered a deconstruction at all.
75	** The more recent ''Anime/HappinessChargePrettyCure'' got a lot of ire from the ''Madoka'' fandom as they perceive the series to be a TakeThat towards them as the characters can achieve their dreams without being punished for it, act selflessly for others without expecting to benefit from it, etc.
76	** ''Anime/PrincessTutu'' is another Magical Girl deconstruction whose fans occasionally butt heads with ''Madoka'''s fans, to the point that it's been said that if one were to have watched ''Tutu'' first, they would have hated ''Madoka''.
77	** Fans of the character Madoka have fought with Literature/{{Haruhi\|Suzumiya}} fans over [[spoiler:which one is the "real" [[MessianicArchetype God figure]]]].
78	** ''Madoka'' is often compared to ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion''. However, on [[Website/FourChan /a/]], it's probably best to keep ''Madoka'' fans and ''Evangelion'' fans at least five miles apart, especially with the movies for both franchises playing in late 2012. Needless to say, both argue over which is the better DarkerAndEdgier DeconstructorFleet series.
79	** ''Madoka'' and ''Anime/YukiYunaIsAHero'' are often compared and the fandoms butt heads a lot. Both have middle schooler pink haired MagicalGirl protagonists and blonde CoolBigSis characters [[spoiler:who break down at least once]]. With the revelation that ''Yuki Yuna is a Hero'' [[spoiler:is just as dark as ''Madoka'', if not worse]], the rivalry really got heated. ''Madoka'' fans often consider ''Yuki Yuna'' a poor [[FollowTheLeader ripoff]] of the series while ''Yuki Yuna'' fans often believe it improved on ''Madoka''.
80	** The ''Manga/{{Bokurano}}'' and ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' fandoms get this due to the fact they're both DarkerAndEdgier deconstructions of counterpart genres (mecha and magical girl). The fact that ''Madoka'' had a reference to ''Bokurano'', which means the writers at least know of the series, doesn't help.
81	* In UsefulNotes/{{Brazil}}, ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' vs. ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. The former was the "breakout anime" of the country and the one which opened the doors for many other to come due its huge success. The latter came some years after and was another huge hit and the comparisons started, as well the fights between the fandoms. Sometimes ''Manga/YuYuHakusho'' is dragged into the mix (the one who replaced Saint Seiya after so many reruns), although both Brazilian fandoms praise Yuyu despite the disagreements about which one is better and despite Yuyu fandom being very vocal, saying ''[=YuYu=] Hakusho'' is way better than ''Dragon Ball Z'' and ''Saint Seiya''.
82	** ''Anime/SailorMoon'' and ''Saint Seiya'' were pretty divisive in some parts of Latin America during the time they aired, mostly a shonen-vs-shoujo, or more to the point, boys-vs-girls type of rivalry.
83	* In addition to the aforementioned rivalry with the ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' fandom, there's ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'' fans vs. every other harem anime fans, strangely enough. ''School Days'' fans argue that the deconstruction really portraits the HaremGenre's flaws and that it's a realistic depiction, while fans of other harem anime argue that the harem genre needn't be realistic to be good and that everything is a work of fiction.
84	* ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'' fans and ''Literature/LogHorizon'' fans, due to similar premise of their respective series. Out of all rivalries mentioned here, this is ''easily'' the most violent of them all, so much so that it's pretty much considered suicidal to refer to both ''SAO'' and ''LH'' in the same sentence in, well, any anime-specialized website.
85	** ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'' and ''Manga/{{Berserk}}'', namely because both have lead characters that [[RedBaron are known as "The Black Swordsman"]], not helped by the fact that these two characters are ''complete opposites'' in terms of personality.
86	** ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'' vs ''Literature/AccelWorld'' due to being released around the same time and being action based anime with an emphasis on virtual reality. The catch is, both series are made by the same author and [[SharedUniverse take place in the same universe]].
87	** And let's not forget about ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'' vs ''Franchise/DotHack''. Many fans of the latter accuse the former for stealing its premise and being considered "original" when the fact is that [[OlderThanTheyThink both series actually debuted in the same year (2002)]]. ''Sword Art Online'' then was just a pilot web novel meant to be an entry for a contest. It didn't become a fully published series until seven years later.
88	** On another scale, there was ''Literature/SwordArtOnline'' vs. ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' for the dominant anime of 2013.
89	** ''Sword Art Online'' and Chinese web novel-turned-animation ''Literature/TheKingsAvatar'': an ExperiencedProtagonist in a MassivelyMultiplayerOnlineRolePlayingGame with expert skills, yet alienates himself from their respective peers, but whereas the former has far more ScienceFantasy elements with a DeadlyGame premise, ''The King's Avatar'' emphasizes the RealLife "[[UsefulNotes/ProfessionalGaming eSports]]" scene with zero {{Fantasy}} and ScienceFiction tropes, using TruthInTelevision instead abundantly for its narrative.
90	* Remember ''Madoka Magica'' vs. ''Infinite Stratos'' (relatively chaste, melodramatic, serious TearJerker vs. raunchy, LoveTriangle- and {{Shipping}}-driven BattleHarem)? ''Literature/VioletEvergarden'' vs. ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'' is like that x9001. Despite the two shows having very little in common other than being the most hyped anime of the Winter 2018 Anime season and being put out by the two arguably [[Creator/StudioTrigger most popular]] [[Creator/KyotoAnimation anime studios]] at the time (2018), arguments between the two fanbases can get very nasty very fast, and not just on [[Website/FourChan /a/]]. Fan wars in the Chinese anime community got to the point that supposedly a ''Violet'' fan reported ''Darling'''s heavy {{Fanservice}} to the government MoralGuardians, resulting in the show being temporarily [[BannedInChina banned in the most populous country on Earth]]! (''Darling'' fans have been little better, often relentlessly trolling threads and articles about ''Violet''.) ''Darling'' being a two-cour anime has only dragged out the webfights, which as of this writing (almost two months after ''Violet'' ended) show few signs of slowing down.
91	** ''Darling'' also earned, in its final episodes, the hatred of fans of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' and ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' for using themes too similar to those two works and ultimately, failing to do them justice, present them in a different manner or become a noteworthy SpiritualSuccessor to any of these series, leading the fans of the other two series to consider ''Darling'' an overhyped, weak and generic anime. Ironically, this ended up with the ''Darling'' fandom making a bold declaration that in these days, mecha genre is dead and the mecha elements they're using are not supposed to be important, what's important is the character drama and interaction. This ended up putting ''Darling'' fandom in the crosshair of not just ''Gurren Lagann'' and ''Evangelion'', but a majority of MechaShow fandom. [[note]]The two aforementioned shows, aside of greatly widespread series like ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' and ''Franchise/CodeGeass'', are considered by the ''Darling'' fandom as "the only mecha that matters"; any other mecha shows that do not carry those names aren't supposed to be considered significant. [[YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame All of these shows' fandoms were, unsurprisingly, not amused.]][[/note]]
92	** Due to the aforementioned bold declaration, the ''Manga/GetterRobo'' fandom took the matters at hand and initiated another personal rivalry, since ''Getter Robo Arc'' also aired in the same time and it certainly had similar elements: Dinosaur-based characters. The Klaxosaurus of ''Darling'' were supposed to be "waifu", but the ''Getter'' characters has fought against the Dinosaur Empire. While ''Darling'' fans dismissed ''Getter'' as an insignificant mecha anime and ignored its long-running status, ''Getter'' fans were even fiercer in stating that ''Darling'' really was the forgettable seasonal anime that wouldn't stay in the heart of fans for so long (unlike ''Getter'' whose influence are still kept since the 70's, and further kept alive with appearances in ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'', something that ironically never tried to include ''Darling'' in it), chanting one of their memetic devotion exclamation while mocking ''Darling''[='s=] more volatile fandom: '''[[MemeticMutation Dinosaur waifus are temporary, believing in the Getter is eternal!]]'''
93	* Fans of ''Anime/VoltesV'' vs. fans of ''Anime/{{Voltron}}''. Particularly infamous in some corners of fandom, where ''Voltes V'' proponents will slam ''Voltron'' as a rip-off and dedicate fanfiction and videos to the characters being slaughtered or [[RonTheDeathEater made out to be villains]] threatening the ''Voltes V'' team. Flamewars will spark over which giant robot would wipe the floor with the other, and whether or not the "Voltron" title plagiarized the "Volt" in ''Voltes'' (fans who point out that the original title was ''Anime/GoLion'' tend to get ignored in the shuffle). The arguments all boil down to which FiveManBand series is the legitimate and superior title, whether or not the latter was plagiarism, and if it's possible for fans of either to enjoy both.
94	* ''Manga/{{Watamote}}'' versus ''Manga/HimoutoUmaruChan''. Perhaps because of their similar subject matters (though very different presentations), a fair amount of vitriol gets thrown back and forth between fans of these two series on [[Website/FourChan /a/]]. The announcement that ''Umaru'' would be getting a second season of anime only made the situation worse.
95	* ''Franchise/YuGiOh'':
96	** There was, of course, ''Anime/YuGiOh'' vs. ''Anime/DuelMasters''.
97	** Fans of every spinoff series tend to clash on what show is the best one. Many diehard fans of the ''Duel Monsters'' series mock and disregard every spinoff that comes out, while the others think the original either didn't age well or treat those diehard fans the equivalent of "Genwunners".
98	*** And let's not forget about ''[[Anime/YuGiOhFirstAnimeSeries Season 0]]''.
99	** There are inter-fandom rivalries between people who like the manga, people who like the anime, and people who like the dub, as well as fans of the individual anime series. Character-based rivalries also spring up, like Jonouchi fans that dislike Kaiba or Kaiba fans who dislike Jonouchi and Anzu.

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