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11	!! ''Franchise/SailorMoon''
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13	* Mamoru Chiba/Tuxedo Kamen/Prince Endymion of ''Franchise/SailorMoon'' is ''definitely'' up to his neck in this trope. The guy is consistently portrayed throughout every incarnation of the Sailor Moon franchise as [[OfficialCouple Usagi's love interest]], but TheNineties final [[Anime/SailorMoon anime]] series, ''Sailor Stars'', introduced Seiya Kou as a surrogate love interest while Mamoru was absent and fans, seeing a het-ish alternative to Mamoru ("ish" because Seiya is a GenderBender in the anime and a SweetPollyOliver in the [[Manga/SailorMoon manga]]), proceeded to take this opportunity to express their anger at Mamoru. Said anger stems mostly from a plot arc in the ''R'' season, where Mamoru [[ItsNotYouItsMyEnemies broke up with Usagi]] after receiving disturbing dreams that their relationship would lead to TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt. It really didn't help that the entire situation came off as very contrived and [[{{Narm}} melodramatic]], not to mention being [[ArcFatigue incredibly dragged out]]. It also didn't do any favors for Mamoru's character either, as his repeated attempts to push Usagi away came across as [[{{Jerkass}} cruel]], even though he did have good intentions. But what people tend to forget though is that after that issue was finally resolved, Usagi ''did'' forgive Mamoru and he generally went back to being a serious and overall devoted and well-meaning boyfriend. But NeverLiveItDown is in full effect here, as some Seiya/Usagi shippers will practically [[RonTheDeathEater bend over backwards]] to color Mamoru up as this heartless asshole who ''hates'' her.
14	** [[SarcasmMode Poor, poor little Usagi is only stuck with that jerk Mamoru because she wants to have their future daughter. If she had a choice, she would be with Seiya.]] Never mind the fact Usagi and Mamoru loved each other before finding out they had a child together, Usagi was mostly [[OblivioustoLove oblivious to Seiya's feelings]] and [[JustFriends only saw her as a good friend]], and it was explicitly stated in canon that Seiya's love for Usagi was unrequited (something that Seiya herself ''[[GracefulLoser very]]'' [[GracefulLoser gracefully and maturely]] [[IWantMyBelovedToBehappy accepted]]). No, that's not important. At all.
15	** As for Seiya/Usagi itself, there simply is no concensus on which version of Seiya makes for a better "boyfriend" (quotes intentional) for Usagi. The girls prefer Seiya as the anime version's GenderBender incarnation, and are revulsed just by the thought of Seiya being female. The guys who like this ship mostly prefer Seiya to be a crossdressing female, because of 1) parallels with how Usagi saw Haruka and Michiru's relationship, so she has ''her own'' handsome girlfriend 2)because it's lesbian, and [[GirlOnGirlIsHot guys find lesbians sexy]].
16	* There's a {{Squick}}y subgroup that claims that Mamoru is in love with [[ParentalIncest his own future daughter]]. Anime Usagi is shown to be so [[ClingyJealousGirl childishly jealous]] when Mamoru pays attention to Chibi-Usa that she even asks him in the ''Super S'' movie which one he loves more. Mamoru is [[FlatWhat understandably flabbergasted and gives no response]], which sets up a ChekhovsGun when Usagi is [[LotusEaterMachine later trapped in an illusion with a fake Mamoru]]. Some of Mamoru's detractors will use this as evidence that he loves his daughter more than his girlfriend/future wife. It does not help that Chibi-Usa is quite clingy to him as well, and even refers to her father as [[DaddysGirl her boyfriend]]. Still, this subgroup seems to be unaware of the time in R when the Black Moon clan ''tries'' to brainwash Usagi into joining them by attempting to make her think that Mamoru was in love with Black Lady, Chibi-Usa's magically aged up ''and'' brainwashed and evil alter ego... but Usagi breaks through it and says this won't happen ever. Note that in the manga, Usagi's jealousy of Mamoru's attention to Chibi-Usa was actually addressed directly when Usagi confessed it to him - leading to TheirFirstTime. Needless to say, Mamoru was a bit more direct about his feelings in the manga.
17	* This also happens in reverse. Some Mamoru/Usagi fans don't take kindly to people splitting up the "Ultimate [[OneTruePairing OTP]]" of the fandom. As a result, Seiya also gets a lot of hatefics where she's treated as if she ''[[PsychoLesbian deliberately]]'' tried to ruin Usagi's relationship to steal her from Mamoru, even though in canon, she respected Usagi's prior commitments, and in the anime, mistakenly thought that Mamoru had dumped Usagi without telling her. ([[spoiler: Mamoru's death wasn't revealed until the end of the anime's plot.]]) Plus Seiya did gracefully [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy let her go after realizing she wouldn't ever be truly happy with her]]. Even ''Mamoru'' trusted her and Usagi and was on pretty friendly terms with Seiya when they finally met. ''Both'' versions of Seiya (the GenderBender from the anime and the SweetPollyOliver from the manga) took heat from the rabid shippers; the first more than the second, yeah, but still.
18	** The infamous "Am I not enough?" scene and Seiya's cocky attitude, while valid flaws to be noted, [[RonTheDeathEater tend to get twisted]] by some of the anti-Seiya crowd into proof that Seiya is a manipulative asshole that wanted to ruin Usagi's well-being if it meant she could have her. And lately, the poor man/woman is being derided as a creepy sexual predator for daring to flirt with Usagi at all. While s/he did come on too strong in the anime, s/he hardly shoved her against a wall and tore at her clothes the way some fans would have you believe.
19	* And then there are the fics that bash Usagi to have Mamoru get it on with the self-insert. Or the {{crossover}}s that bash not only Mamoru, but also ''all'' of the Guardians (specially Rei, who briefly dated Mamoru in the anime but gave him up willingly) so Usagi will ditch the team and get together with [[Manga/RanmaOneHalf Ranma Saotome]], [[Anime/WeissKreuz Farfarello]], [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Heero Yuy]], or [[Anime/DragonballZ Trunks]]. Or the Usagi/Rei {{yuri}} fics that sound ''very'' similar to the Seiya/Usagi ones that make Mamoru a JerkAss...
20	* All you have to do to split up Usagi and Mamoru is to make Mamoru a JerkAss. One Usagi/Haruka fic, without irony, condemned Mamoru for being a possessive, unloving jerk who was torturing Usagi's emotions and driving her into Haruka's virtuous arms. Meanwhile, it seemed approving of Haruka's romance with Usagi while ignoring her ''live-in'' lover, Michiru, who suffers extreme {{Chickification}} and is okay with Haruka cheating on her (!). The story ended with Usagi and Mamoru together after Mamoru was harshly scolded for his evil ways and Haruka nobly [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy giving up Usagi]] and still getting to walk home with an ever-loving Michiru.
21	* [[TheOjou Rei]] [[{{Miko}} Hino]] was demonized quite a bit by rabid Usagi/Mamoru fans for her crush on Mamoru. They painted her as a screaming, frothing home-wrecker who wanted to kill Usagi and steal Mamoru all for herself. (The English dub making Raye a flat-out bully towards Serena didn't help matters.) Never mind that in anime canon, Rei [[IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy immediately stepped out of the way once she realized Usagi and Mamoru were meant to be]], that she was the most protective of Usagi among the Guardians, that Usagi trusted her ''the most'' out of anyone in the Guardians, that she was somewhat paired up with [[ButtMonkey Yuuichiro]], ''and'' that Rei was the most affected in the ''Stars'' anime when she learned that [[spoiler: Usagi lost contact with Mamoru and hid that from them. "Why must Usagi suffer so ''much''? It... it's so unfair!", anyone?]].
22	** Don't forget the ''Super S'' episode in which Mamoru had to spend the night at Hikawa since his apartment was in repairs. You'd swear it's a TakeThat to the Rei-bashing-from-Usagi/Mamoru-rabidshippers as Usagi got comically jealous of Rei and recalled how she used to chase after him, only for a squicked Rei to go all "What the HELL are you smoking?!"
23	* It was once popular, during the English dub's heyday, to portray Haruka as a PsychoLesbian who either perverted or abused Michiru, all to ensure that a self-insert could enter the picture and rescue her from the sin of homosexuality. A subversion occurred on a once-infamous website that posited the reverse - that Haruka was a shy, gentle heterosexual woman and Michiru forced her to be a manly lesbian. These days, now that same-gender ships are ''far'' more acceptable and popular, they're one of the series' most popular pairings.
24	* Even minor characters are not immune to this. Reika in particular is not popular among shippers just because she's Motoki's girlfriend. A lot of fans prefer to pair Motoki with one of the Guardians, some of whom have crushes on him. Said fans were probably thrilled that Reika got AdaptedOut of ''Series/PrettyGuardianSailorMoon'' and that Motoki and Makoto became a couple in that series.
25	* Another minor character who sometimes gets this is Umino, who was a SecondLove for Naru after Nephrite died. Viewers found the Naru/Nephrite storyline so sweet and memorable that more than a few shippers would rather find a way to bring Nephrite back and have him with Naru. It doesn't help that many fans find Umino [[TheFriendNobodyLikes as annoying as his friends do]]. The guy's lucky that Makoto/Nephrite is so popular and that Naru/Umino is an OfficialCouple, or he might not get shipped at all.
26	* Speaking of the Dark Kingdom Generals, Queen Beryl used to come under a ''lot'' of fire from Kunzite/Zoisite shippers. The fact that she killed Zoisite for his disobedience obviously meant she had some sort of vendetta against the relationship on the whole, and some fanfics would even cast her as TheVamp bent on seducing Kunzite and breaking up him and Zoisite. Granted, Zoisite's [[GreenEyedMonster extreme jealousy]] makes ''him'' mentally casting her in such a role slightly plausible, but still.

Context DieForOurShip / SailorMoon