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4	This final page lists all the other characters of ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry'' which can't fit into the other categories, posthumous or not. Note that most characters listed here appear in late arcs and their description is unavoidably spoiler-heavy.
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9	[[folder:Asumu Ushiromiya]]
10	[[quoteright:165:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/asumu_4358.png]]
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12	Rudolf's first wife and Battler's mother. She died six years before the main story takes place. After her death, Rudolf remarried Kyrie, upsetting Battler and causing him to live with Asumu's family until nearly the beginning of the story.
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14	* AmbiguousSituation: According to Kyrie, Asumu was a sly and manipulative BitchInSheepsClothing who used her fake charms to steal Rudolf away from her. It's called into question whether or not this is truth or just vengeful exaggeration on Kyrie's end. Considering Kyrie's strong hatred for Asumu and her hidden {{Yandere}} side, it might be closer to the latter.
15	* BettyAndVeronica: She was the Betty to Kyrie's Veronica in their love triangle for Rudolf. Kyrie thinks Asumu was just playing innocent to stir Rudolf's protective instincts, but she's something of an UnreliableNarrator.
16	* BitchInSheepsClothing: Kyrie describes Asumu as a manipulative and sly woman who played at being delicate to wrap Rudolf around her finger. However, considering both Rudolf and Battler remember Asumu as a very loving woman, Kyrie's personal hatred and jealousy of Asumu may have just twisted her perception of her love rival.
17	* ConvenientMiscarriage: [[spoiler:Turns out she was the one who had a stillbirth, not Kyrie. Rudolf made a baby switch because it was more convenient for him if his mistress was the one who had a stillborn instead of his wife.]]
18	* DeathByOriginStory: She has been dead for more than six years by the time the story begins.
19	* DeathOfTheHypotenuse: Kyrie had been Rudolf's first lover and considered that Asumu had "stolen" him from her. Because of this, she saw Asumu's death as something of a curse that allowed her to take him back.
20	* DeceasedParentsAreTheBest: She's one of the few parents in the entire series who doesn't seem to have any psychological issues or puts any unnecessary stress or standards on their child, a status that's mostly just held by Hideyoshi. [=EP8=] implies [[spoiler: Asumu may have known Battler wasn't her real son, but regardless she loved Battler deeply.]]
21	* DotingParent: According to Battler and Rudolf, Asumu adored her son. [[spoiler:Rudolf was especially impressed because he thinks Asumu realized Battler wasn't really her son, but she still loved him as if he was her own child.]]
22	* {{Foil}}: It's said that while Kyrie had really strong wits and logical thinking, Asumu had an unbelievable intuition and loved riddles. [[spoiler:In ''Last Note of the Golden Witch'' it's said in the Red Truth that if Asumu had the opportunity, she would have solved the riddle of the epitaph before anyone else.]]
23	* ForWantOfANail: [[spoiler:''Last Note of the Golden Witch'' shows that if Asumu hadn't died, everything the Ushiromiyas went through would've been profoundly different. Asumu living meant Battler would've never cut ties with the family or unintentionally forgotten Shannon. Due to her own unique perspective on figuring out puzzles, Asumu would've solved Kinzo's epitaph far sooner with Shannon and the gold would've been distributed to the rest of the family, while Kinzo's death wouldn't have been hidden. Everyone's financial problems would've been solved, Shannon would've been allowed to leave the island, and Battler would've stayed with the family. The only ones who wouldn't be included in this happy equation are Kyrie and Ange, since Kyrie would've never been able to marry Rudolf, leaving Ange as an illegitimate child not considered a part of the Ushiromiya Family.]]
24	* TheGhost: Despite being referred to multiple times whenever Battler's past came up, nobody knew what Asumu looked like until [[http://www.dm5.com/m111210-p13/ the [=EP8=] manga.]]
25	* GoodStepmother: [[spoiler:Not that Battler knew it, but Asumu wasn't really his birth mother. In [=EP8=], Rudolf mentions that Asumu probably noticed Battler wasn't her true son, but she still raised him with all the love in the world.]]
26	* MissingMom: Asumu has been dead for six years. Her death was one of the reasons why Battler distanced himself from his family until recently. [[spoiler:Then again, she's not Battler's biological mom, but Battler still considers Asumu his mother regardless of their blood.]]
27	* NoodleIncident: We know roughly when she died (soon after the 1980 family conference), but the cause of her death is never explained.
28	* PosthumousCharacter: She's been dead for six years before the story begins.
29	* SmallRoleBigImpact: Her dying is the reason Battler cuts ties with Rudolf and the rest of the family, which is why [[spoiler:he forgot about his promise to Sayo and accidentally abandoned them, setting Sayo on the path to becoming Beatrice.]]
30	* WhyDidItHaveToBeSnakes: [=EP4=] states that Asumu shared Battler's fear of vehicles that shook around. Kyrie later claims in [=EP6=] that this was merely an act to endear Rudolf.
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33	[[folder:Battler Ushiromiya, Son Of Asumu Ushiromiya]]
34	->"''[[red:Battler Ushiromiya's mother is Asumu Ushiromiya.]]''"
35	->"''[[red:It was by Asumu Ushiromiya that Battler Ushiromiya was born.]]''"
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37	The stillborn first child of Rudolf Ushiromiya by his first wife Asumu, revealed in [=EP4=] to also be named Battler, in that it was even possible for the above quotes to be spoken in Red.
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39	* GivenNameReveal: A meta case in that Kyrie's son Battler tries to affirm his identity by saying he is Asumu's son, but is only able affirm that his name is "Battler Ushiromiya" and that Asumu gave birth to "Battler Ushiromiya" before the nature of the Red Truth forces him to choke on the untruth that he himself is Asumu's son. Obviously, the only way it can be said in Red that Asumu mothered Battler is if the dead baby was also named Battler.
40	* OneSteveLimit: An odd case, in that Kyrie's son was given Battler's name to hide the switch.
41	* PosthumousCharacter: Was stillborn, and yet his very existence is relevant.
42	* TheReveal: Understanding the situation between both Battlers is a key piece of info when it comes to understanding Red Truth and Beatrice’s game overall.
43	** It’s not that you can lie with Red Truth but that you can [[spoiler:eliminate context and obscure other truths with it. By knowing that two Battlers exist you can easily solve how Battler was unable to say he was born from Asumu. This is also important to figuring out how Eva-Beatrice’s Red Web works. You can use names as a substitute for another person’s presence. Which is how you’d hypothetically be able to say “Battler Ushiromiya Died 19 years ago” in Red Truth and still have Battler be alive on Rokkenjima.]]
44	* SwitchedAtBirth: Both he and Kyrie's son Battler are unknowingly impersonating the other in order to protect Rudolf's reputation. This Battler died in the womb while Tōya Hachijo likely never learned the truth.
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47	[[folder:The Man From 19 Years Ago]]
48	!!!Voiced by: Creator/DaisukeOno (JP)
49	--> "''I don't want money. My wounds couldn't be healed with any amount of money. But there is a medicine. ... ...And that is... my hatred... my resentment towards you...''"
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51	First appears in the fifth arc, in the form of {{Harassing Phone Call}}s to Natsuhi, who had previously been his mother, until an unfortunate accident caused the servant carrying him when he was a baby to fall off a cliff. He apparently comes back, looking for revenge against her by framing her for the murders.
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53	* BastardBastard: He is [[spoiler:Kinzo's bastard son]], and he's quite a JerkAss.
54	* CastAsAMask:
55	** The person who voices the man in the [=PS3=] port is [[spoiler:Creator/DaisukeOno, Battler's voice actor]]. The man's true identity? [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda, who acts in-universe as Beatrice (Creator/SayakaOhara), Shannon (Creator/RieKugimiya), Kanon (Creator/YuuKobayashi), and Lion (Creator/AyakoKawasumi)]]. Even more misleading when [[spoiler:Battler makes a theory about himself being that man]] in the Tea Party of that Episode…
56	** The Episode 8 manga gives another perspective with Erika's theory, which is that [[spoiler:Battler was in cahoots with everyone else in Episode 5 and passed the calls by reading Sayo Yasuda's script.]] Which Battler confirms.
57	* ChildByRape: [[spoiler:As one of Sayo Yasuda's possible futures, he was born by Kinzo's rape of Beatrice II]].
58	* TheFaceless: He only manifests himself through his phone calls in Episode 5.
59	* {{Foreshadowing}}: The fact that, according to Natsuhi, only [[spoiler: Shannon]] knows that her favorite season is Fall.
60	** The fact that [[spoiler:he shares a VA with Battler serves as a major clue. It’s not Sayo talking to Natsuhi, but Battler reading along a script.]]
61	* FreudianExcuse: He makes Natsuhi's life hell, but he has every right in the world to hate her after what she did to him.
62	* HarassingPhoneCall: Spends a decent amount of time calling simply to harangue and upset Natsuhi.
63	* HonorRelatedAbuse: Natsuhi shoved the servant carrying him as a baby off a cliff because she felt the baby embodied her [[LawOfInverseFertility "failure"]] as a woman.
64	* ICanSeeYou: Warns Natsuhi this if she planned to disobey his orders.
65	* {{Leitmotif}}: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQC-AErsifs "Aoiro no Reishou"]] ("Deep Blue Jeering")
66	* LukeYouAreMyFather: To Natsuhi. Well, adoptive, at least.
67	* OrphansOrdeal: It starts with being thrown off a cliff, and only gets worse from there.
68	* ParentalAbandonment: At least ''twice'' while he was still a baby!
69	* TheResenter: His only goal in the story is to get back at Natsuhi for her "sin".
70	* RevengeByProxy: His aim looks like this at first: some of his first few targets are [[spoiler:Jessica and Krauss]]. But his goal is actually to ''frame'' [[spoiler:Natsuhi]] ''for'' their murder, which is even worse.
71	* ShadowArchetype: He's basically a version of [[spoiler:Sayo Yasuda]] where their hatred of the family has taken predecence over all their other motives and feelings.
72	* TermsOfEndangerment: He calls Natsuhi "Mother" to torment her even further.
73	* VocalDissonance: The visual novel describes the man's voice as being rather like a boy's voice that hasn't broken yet, but in the [=PS3=] port he's voiced by [[spoiler:Creator/DaisukeOno]], who clearly makes him sound like a fully grown adult.
74	* WhatIf: The Man From 19 Years Ago is [[spoiler:a version of Sayo if her feelings of hatred towards Natsuhi overrode her trauma from Battler's broken promise. Instead of seeking to get Battler to remember his sin, she instead wishes to cause Natsuhi as much suffering as possible, while keeping her alive. Notably Sayo recruits Battler to accomplish this, something that Yasu as Beatrice would never do.]]
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77	[[folder:Lieutenant Yamamoto]]
78	[[quoteright:130:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lieutenant_yamamoto_1878.jpg]]
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80	->"''10%? Alright. I'll accept that. I'll give up 10%: I will only demand 40% instead of 50.''"
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82	The commander of the Rokkenjima garrison, and Kinzō's superior in the Japanese military in 1944.
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85	* AmbiguousSituation: It's ambiguous whether Yamamoto was really as bad as Kinzō's flashback made him out to be or it was just Kinzō portraying him like that out of spite and a wish to embellish his story. At the end of [=EP7=], [[spoiler:we see a segment that implies Yamamoto actually was opposed to the idea of stealing the Italians' gold, which was suggested by Kinzō no less.]] It becomes even more questionable after the manga sort of confirms [[spoiler:Kinzō was the one who started the massacre to have Beatrice and all the gold for himself]].
86	* AssholeVictim: He's willing to massacre all of the Italian Navy, including Beatrice, to have the gold ingots for himself, and Kinzō gave him what he deserved. [[spoiler: Subverted when the Tea Party and manga adaptation for [=EP7=] imply that Kinzō was the one who came up with the plan.]]
87	* DirtyCoward: He takes his anger out on Kinzo to cope with his own fears. He later tries to kill the Italians with a (dud) grenade rather than face them himself.
88	* EveryoneHasStandards: He may be a cowardly asshole, but is still a honorable soldier, [[spoiler:as he's repulsed by Kinzō's plan to murder the Italians for their gold.]]
89	* GoOutWithASmile: He smirks as he collapses from Kinzo's shot to his chest, likely satisfied that Kinzo stooped to his level of killing to take what he wants.
90	* GoldFever: Supposedly. It's noted in (Kinzo's) narration that when everyone saw the pile of gold, their eyes changed. [[spoiler:It may not be what actually happened though.]]
91	* GroinAttack: Suffers one from his hostage Beatrice after he seemingly shoots Kinzo.
92	* {{Jerkass}}: He's not only petty, but he's also a greedy bastard willing to take multiple lives to get what he wants. [[spoiler: Bernkastel's truth reveals that he didn't want to cross the line when Kinzō proposed to steal the gold ingots from the Italians.]]
93	* TheNeidermeyer: He takes pride in his youth as a thug and according to Kinzō, will often chew out his subbordinates for no reason other than to relieve his stress or boredom. After all, he knows as well as them that they have basically no mission on the island and are just waiting for enemies that will never come.
94	* WouldHitAGirl: He took Beatrice hostage, damaged her ribs, and would have killed her if not for Kinzō..
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97	[[folder:Mrs. Ushiromiya]]
98	[[quoteright:197:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/kinzoswife_9.jpg]]
99	[[caption-width-right:197:Mrs. Ushiromiya as she appears in the manga]]
100	Kinzo's wife and the mother of Krauss, Eva, Rudolf and Rosa. Despite this, she never appears in the story and is mentioned very few times.
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103	* AbusiveParent: Like her husband, Rosa's mother had no qualms about going beyond parental reproach by calling her youngest daughter the living disgrace of the family whenever she did not particularly excel in school.
104	* ArrangedMarriage: She and Kinzo were forced to marry against their will by their respective families.
105	* AwfulWeddedLife: The marriage between her and Kinzo was loveless and estranged to the end.
106	* BlueBlood: It is said that she came from a very wealthy family with a noble lineages, which is the main reason why she was chosen as Kinzo's wife.
107	* {{Cuckold}}: She rightly suspected that Kinzo hid a lover in the witch's forest.
108	* EducationMama: Implied to be this during the flashbacks of the meeting between Rosa and Beatrice Ushiromiya.
109	* TheGhost: She's never seen outside of flashbacks, which give her no defining features whatsoever.
110	* MissingMom: She died at some point before the beginning of the story, survived by her husband and children.
111	* PosthumousCharacter: She has been dead for a long time when the story begins and is mentioned very few times (mainly by her children).
112	* UnnamedParent: She's one of the only two parents in the series whose name is never given.
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117	The mysterious man with whom Rosa conceived her daughter and from whom she was soon abandoned after he having immensely indebted himself.
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120	* DisappearedDad: He abandoned Rosa in the middle of her pregnancy, promising to find a job as soon as possible to help pay off the debt and support her and Maria. According to Eva, he escaped taking some of Rosa's money with him.
121	* GoldDigger: Strongly implied to be the reason he was interested in Rosa. Eva accuses Rosa of being no different than him [[spoiler:when the gold is found in [=EP7=]]].
122	* TheGhost: While he's mentioned somewhat often, he's never seen, aside from a couple of Rosa and Maria's flashbacks in the manga - and even then, his appearance is kept very vague. The rest of the Ushiromiya siblings don't know a thing about him, suggesting Rosa never properly introduced him to the rest of her family before he ran away with her money. Maria comes to believe that she is a child of God because of Rosa's refusal to reveal the truth to her.
123	* SmallRoleBigImpact: By shafting all of his debts onto Rosa and leaving her to [[StrugglingSingleMother raise Maria alone]], he puts their finances in dire straits. This gives Rosa quite a large stake in the outcome of the family conference and the inheritance distribution.
124	* UnnamedParent: Like Mrs. Ushiromiya, he doesn't have a name.
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