Line #155 Characters/RavagesOfTimeSunClan


1	Due to obvious reasons, this page contains profile pictures of Sun Ce and Sun Quan - major in-universe WalkingSpoiler and ChekhovsGunman, respectively. Enjoy their entries at your own risk.
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6	%%* ArrogantKungFuGuy
7	%%* BadassCrew
8	%%* BadassFamily
9	* IndyPloy: Frequently invoked by Sun Ce, who always counts on his men and Zhou Yu to be adaptive and makes use of the situational advantages offered by his "reckless" charges, no matter how much they might disagree with him for putting his life on the line.
10	* LegacyOfService: Most aged generals serving Sun Ce used to be his father Sun Jian's subordinates, and after Ling Cao's death in battle [[spoiler:under the guise of Sun Ce]] his son Ling Tong was given a title and joined Sun Ce.
11	* OneManArmy: Zhou Tai, Taishi Ci and Sun Ce (''especially'' Sun Ce) who frequently take on a vast number of enemy troops alone.
12	* RevengeBeforeReason: Sun Ce takes Sun Jian's death at the hands of Jingzhou's general Huang Zu ''very'' personally and the first thing he does after amassing enough military might is raiding Jiangxia (Jingzhou's border), causing heavy loss for the Jingzhou people. Ten years after his passing, we learn that Sun Quan has only taken up his older brother's 'good' works, relentlessly rampaging Jingzhou lands and further exacerbating the bad blood between Sun clan and the Liu clan. It understandably causes the Jing citizens to hate their guts and join Liu Bei to fight them off at the first change they get.
13	* TheHeroDies: Sun Jian, Sun Ce, and as of the latest chapters, Zhou Yu. Given that all of them are figureheads of Sun clan, the Suns are notedly the team which has gone through most changes in leadership of all three factions.
14	* TookALevelInBadass: The Sun army was an elite force to begin with; their strength only dispersed under Yuan Shu's intentional mismanagement. After they reclaim a stronghold, recruit Zhou Yu and have the Shan clan and Sima clan to back them up financially, Sun Ce and the veteran generals swiftly get their acts together and embark on a successful conquest of the Sun's old lands.
15	* WhatWereYouThinking: To Sun Ce whenever he does something reckless (which is ''often'') like [[LeeroyJenkins leaving the main troops to take on an entire army alone]]. Of course, according to Sun Ce it's always AllAccordingToPlan...
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20	!The clansmen
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22	[[folder:Sun Jian]]
23	Patriarch of Sun family and a famed general of Guandong warlord alliance. He's generally hailed as "one of the true last Loyalists" of the court, if not ''the'' true last Loyalist, given how treacherous most other warlords (even the respected Yuan Shao) turned out to be and how Cao Cao eventually shed this appearance in becoming an EvilChancellor to the Emperor. Largely a PosthumousCharacter, the readers know about his heroic deeds for the alliance only through brief words of mouth until a conversation with Sima Yi in volume 14 tells us he died off-screen not long after the campaign against Dong Zhuo.
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25	* AnnoyingArrows: He died a HumanPincushion, a handiwork of Liu Biao's archer team and Gan Ning.
26	* BigDamnHeroes: He was the first man trying to put out the fire in Luoyang after Dong Zhuo left with only a cloth in his hands, inspiring many other soldiers to follow his example.
27	%%* DoomedMoralVictor
28	* GoodIsDumb: He didn't trust the Yuan clan regarding the Imperial seal, but that didn't stop him from obeying them in ''every other matter''. In fact, he marched on his fatal campaign against Liu Biao on the order of Yuan Shu, who was very likely ''the'' Yuan brother who tasked his men to retrieve the Seal while Luoyang burned in the first place[[note]]Yuan Shao later confessed to Yuan Fang that he tried to save Emperor Liu Bian to deter Yuan Shu from claiming the throne, so it wouldn't make sense for him to claim the Imperial Seal for himself[[/note]].
29	* GoodIsNotDumb: The whole reason that Sun Jian hid the Imperial Seal in ''Ravages'' was because he realized that he was one of the only "true" Loyalists in the Guandong Alliance -- the other being Cao Cao -- and he recognized, what with Yuan Shao having marched his army into Luoyang in hopes of recovering the Emperor and the Imperial Seal first (and Sun Jian presumably having realized how hollow any "support" from the other lords was), that the Imperial Seal wouldn't be "safe" from the other, greedier lords. And yet, when it really counts, he also manages to be...
30	* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: He continued to trust and believe the best of Yuan Shao and the other Guandong warlords even after they sabotaged his march to Luoyang by giving him insufficient rations, but the discovery of the Imperial Seal in the hand of a Yuan clan soldier made him wise up. Sadly, this realization was not enough for him to completely abandon their cause.
31	* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: He was a famous Loyalist who fought for a just cause and protected the Imperial Seal from would-be usurpers, and all it did was getting him killed for Yuan Shu's ambition. Without a patriarch, the Sun family (which already had lost much control of the Eastern land) lost most of their military force (implied to be in no small part due to Yuan Shu's machination) and quickly declined in influence, forcing Sun Ce to submit to Yuan Shu and marry off his sister to Sima clan.
32	* ParentalNeglect: Judging by the way he reacts to his daughter's near-death experience and Sun Ce's flashback, Sun Jian might be accused of this to his children. In the novel ''Bofu'', Sun Ce gets this short end of the stick a lot and it damages his sense of self-worth quite severely.
33	%%* PosthumousCharacter
34	* RedBaron: The Tiger of Jiangdong.
35	* TogetherInDeath: [[spoiler:If Zhou Yu's vision is anything to go by, Sun Ce's soul goes to rest with his father when he dies, and he ''does'' accept Ce with open arms.]]
36	* TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth: His ideals of righteousness and loyalty are ''way'' out of keeping with the era he lives in -- he was basically the only "true" (or rather sincere) Loyalist out of the lords in the Guandong coalition, and he hid the Imperial Seal not out of ambition but rather out of fear of the other, less sincere lords getting their hands on it. Notably, no one [[spoiler:except Sun Ce]] will speak ill of Sun Jian's loyalism, and in fact Sun Ce's enemies even use it to bash him with!
37	* UndyingLoyalty: To the court, and Sun Ce is not pleased since it was the cause of his death and indirectly responsible for the craps his family had to endure thereafter.
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40	[[folder:Sun Ce/[[spoiler:Ling Cao]]]]
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42	* BackToBackBadasses: With Liaoyuan Huo when they were ambushed by Gan Ning and a rogue army.
43	* BodyDouble: He's the "''someone taller''" to Sun Ce's ExpectedSomeoneTaller.
44	* DueToTheDead: In a deliberate aversion, Sun Ce wrecked his tomb and blamed it on Liu Yao to raise army morale. It worked like a miracle, but Ling Cao's son Tong understandably wasn't impressed.
45	* AFatherToHisMen: His last request to Liaoyuan Huo before taking on an entire vengeful army was to help his subordinates get away.
46	* HeroicSacrifice: He pretended to be Sun Ce in public throughout the clan's vassalage to Yuan Shu specifically so that whenever Ling Cao met his end, the Sun clan's forces -- and the real Sun Ce -- could slip out.
47	* GuileHero: He saw through every bit of Yuan Shu's FauxAffablyEvil PR spins but still played along, and he could act as Sun Ce convincingly enough that neither Yuan Shu nor his advisor discovered his identity until after he died.
48	* HotBlooded: Part of the public persona he endorsed.
49	* LegacyOfService: On both sides of this trope: his father Ling Zong served Sun Jian, and his son Ling Tong would serve both Sun Ce and Sun Quan.
50	* {{Mukokuseki}}: A factor in his being picked as Sun Ce's body double.
51	* ObfuscatingStupidity: It didn't fool Yuan Shu and his advisor though. That is to say, they could tell that "''Sun Ce''" is only pretending to be dumb... they just couldn't tell that he wasn't Sun Ce.
52	* TheReveal: His identity and the BodyDouble plan dawns on Liaoyuan Huo when he hears Ling Cao's last words: "I'm sorry, my Lord... My failure has killed a friend.."
53	* SecretIdentity: Posthumously revealed as Ling Cao, subordinate of Sun Ce.
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56	[[folder:Sun Fu/[[spoiler:Sun Ce]]]]
57	[[quoteright:261:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/527005_177043365783374_613720564_n_6628.jpg]]
58	-> ''[[CatchPhrase Heaven, I ask you]]. Are you on my side?''
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60	The young leader of Sun clan, a powerful clan in the Eastern region. Starting with the death of his father Sun Jian, the Sun clan slowly fell victims to outside manipulations and opportunistists who are after the Imperial seal, which Sun Jian allegedly recovered from the ruins of Luoyang after Dong Zhuo's arc and hid away to protect it from ambitious men and opportunitists; by the time of their first appearance what remains is a mere shadow of their old glory. Seeking a way to rebuild his clan and avenge his father's death, Sun Ce submits to Yuan Shu, one of his father's former direct superiors. The cover of amity does not fool either side, though: Yuan Shu, the mastermind behind Sun Jian's death, aims at possessing the Imperial seal and eradicating a future threat, and Sun Ce wants to win his support only to gain the resources to reclaim the Eastern region. Volume 16-20 center around their conflict, [[spoiler:and end in Sun Ce's victory: he successfully escapes from under Yuan Shu's clutches to the Eastern region with a full army by means of one of the most clever BodyDouble strategy to date, Yuan Shu's forces is reduced by half, and the Imperial seal ends up in Yuan Shu's hands to be used in his ascension plan - as Sun Ce wishes - which will make him an enemy of the people]]. Also, by the end of this arc, we see that the Fifth Genius, Zhou Yu, is in his service.
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62	After he's conquered all of the Eastern region's warlord, his archenemy reveals itself to be the remnant of Taiping rebellion, led by the so-called "Great Saint" Yu Ji, a Taoist who uses his medical and shaman knowledge to gather an overwhelming legion of followers. The 2nd arc featuring the Sun clan revolves around the Sun clan vs. Taiping cult battle in Eastern region.
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64	Despite his age, Sun Ce is a very powerful warrior and is considered to be Lu Bu's equal in prowess, a reputation duly justified. He's also a highly cunning schemer in his own right, and is ''very'' clever at manipulating people. What his generals and advisors unanimously regard as his AchillesHeel is his over-enthusiasm with expanding their territory in the Eastern region and exacting revenge on his father's former foes, namely Liu Biao's general Huang Zu and the Taiping cult. In his eagerness to subdue them, more than once Sun Ce has recklessly put his own life on the line, a fact Zhou Yu's greatly concerned about. Still, none of their warnings dampen Sun Ce's spirit: he wholeheartedly believes that great sacrifices make the foundation for Sun clan's rule, and as the spearhead of the clan's offense force, he should do everything he can while Heaven is still on their side.
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66	With Pang Tong's aid, the Sun clan manages to defeat Yu Ji and annihilate his influence in their home base. However, in volume 39, another leader of Taiping called Zuo Ci shows up and sends assassins after Sun Ce to avenge Yu Ji. Their ambush takes him by surprise, and he dies of a poisonous arrow to the head after three months of struggle and insanity induced by extreme agony.
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68	* TheAce: Almighty warrior, certified MagnificentBastard, "[[RedBaron Little Hegemon]]" at an impossible age, almost never plays by the rules and pulls crazy stunts not even the Eight Geniuses could predict, only to always emerge victorious[[note]]until he's finally driven back in his attack on Cao Cao thanks to Guan Yu's intervention and Cao Cao's army rallying and tightening their defense at a chokepoint[[/note]].
69	* AmbitionIsEvil: His father Sun Jian was a famous Loyalist who sacrificed his life to protect the Imperial Seal from falling into the hands of wannabe usurpers, while Sun Ce only wants to restore his clan's reign in the Eastern region and extricate it from any obligatory ties with the imperial clan, which practically means declaring the eastern region autonomous at best and a separate country at worst. His objective is thus relentlessly denounced by opponents, who[[note]]such as Gan Ning and Cao Cao[[/note]] also like to remind him what a terrible son he is for not upholding his late father's "loyalty and righteousness". It causes him to develop self-doubts, exacerbated by his daddy issues, which later return to haunt him amid the bouts of delirium he suffers in his deathbed.
70	* AnimalMotif: The tiger.
71	* ArmorPiercingQuestion: To Taishi Ci - "What is the meaning of loyalty?"
72	* ArrangedMarriage: With the eldest daughter of Qiao family, one of the richest families in the Eastern region. His little brother got him this match by putting a sword to his would-be father-in-law's neck and offering to wed the old man's daughters to two most desirable men in Eastern land at that period (one being TheAce and an court-appointed general, the other [[MaryTzu one of the Eight Geniuses]]) provided that the Qiaos became their ally.
73	* BadassBoast: "Heaven... you still protect the Sun clan."
74	* BatmanGambit: The Battle at Shenting Peak, second round. Which more or less relied on [his men getting sufficiently enraged at Liu Yao's desecration of Ling Cao's tomb (and not finding out that it was ''Sun Ce'' who intentionally did it) to trash Liu Yao's army despite their massive difference in number. [[CrazyEnoughToWork And it went off spectacularly]].
75	* BodyDouble: [He pulled an epic one with Ling Cao, with Sun Ce playing younger cousin "Sun Fu", and everyone not in on it was fooled.
76	* BreakTheBadass: A horrifying and heartbreaking example in "A Hundred Days of Pain".
77	* BreakTheHaughty: As the YoungConqueror he's broken a good number of badasses in his warring days. But he himself also gets this every time people tell him he fails as a son of the Loyalist Sun Jian, and Cao Cao takes it even further by warning that he will not receive Heaven's blessings; this latter one strikes a big chord with Sun Ce since he's always believed that he is so successful with the conquest of the Eastern region because Heaven is on his side. This trope is played ''terrifyingly'' straight during the hundred-day period of agonizing pains he suffers from an assassin's poisoned arrow, which culminate in him seeing himself flat-out condemned by his father in a dream for being a renegade who betrays Imperial Han, rather than a dutiful son his father'd wished him to be. [[TearJerker The entire scene is tear-jerking to behold.]]
78	* BreakThemByTalking: To Taishi Ci. Of course, this is after he botched Taishi Ci's entire retaliation siege by luring him into an alliance with turncloaks who were charged with keeping siege weapons and subjected Taishi Ci and his entire troops to heat stroke. His ArmorPiercingQuestion was the final touch.
79	* BrokenAce: Yet is also a [[TheResenter resenter]] with [[WellDoneSonGuy daddy issues]] and deep-seated insecurities about the righteousness of his belief.
80	* CallBack: Just like Ling Cao 19 volumes earlier, Sun Ce meets his end with an arrow to the head, and the last sane thought passing through his mind is also the narration line hanging in Ling Cao's death scene. Moreover, the one who indirectly caused him to drop his guard and thus be vulnerable to that arrow? None other than Ling Tong, Ling Cao's son, to whom Sun Ce had even said, "If there is justice, when Heaven reprimands, pray that I suffer a hundred days of pain before I die!" after desecrating Ling Cao's tomb and blaming the enemy for the act.
81	* TheChessmaster: A much more successful example than Lu Bu of an OneManArmy dishing out [[ThePlan a plan]] of his own.
82	* CombatPragmatist: When it's him versus a horsed fighter, he aims for the horse and it works. When it's him on a horse versus Zhang Liao, he ''knows'' Zhang Liao would aim for the horse and gives Zhang Liao a sound ass-kicking.
83	* CurbStompBattle: Not quite on Lu Bu's level yet, but ''holy shit'' this guy is pretty close. No one pulls a proud warrior (or a proud cavalry ''battalion'' for that matter) off of his high horse like Sun Ce.
84	* CuttingTheKnot: The primary advocate in Ravages. Throwing together all the toughest nuts and drop a freakin' hammer on them at once is Sun Ce's way of doing things, and the way his gambits play this trope to all its worth cements his status as one of the major MagnificentBastard in-universe.
85	* CynicismCatalyst: The death of his beloved father caused his disbelief in loyalty to Han.
86	* DespairEventHorizon: Sun Jian's death was one for him, since it brought about the clan's near collapse and left him with little choice but to kowtow to Yuan Shu, the instigator of his father's demise.
87	* DidntSeeThatComing: He thought getting rid of Yu Ji would be the end of his problems with the Southern Taiping sect...but then comes assassins from Zuo Ci, Northern Taiping cult leader and their ambush.
88	* DualWielding: Two halberds, but he also has a curious tendency to [[ThrowingYourSwordAlwaysWorks slip his hands]] with [[ImprobableAimingSkills deadly accuracy]].
89	* ExpectingSomeoneTaller: And it worked against ''everyone''.
90	* FakingTheDead: Once against Yuan Shu's assassination attempt, twice against Yu Ji's.
91	* FaceHeelTurn: [[DespairEventHorizon Sun Jian's premature death and the subsequent fall of the Sun clan]] turns Sun Ce completely off to the (traditionally valued) idea of following his father's loyal footsteps and returning to the court's service -- from then on he's looking out for number one.
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93	* GenerationXerox: Just like his father who died being shot full of arrows, Sun Ce also met his end with a poisoned arrow to the head.
94	* GeniusBruiser: As Zhou Yu puts it: "A Lu Bu with Sun Zi's wisdom".
95	* ImprobableAge: He leads the Sun army on a swift conquest of the eastern region, defeating and outwitting men twice his age, and established the foundation of the Sun clan in eighty-one states in five years. Historically he's only in his mid-twenties when he dies.
96	* ItsPersonal: As he tearfully admits in his deathbed, his unyielding opposition to Yu Ji's Taiping cult in Eastern region and continual siege on Jiangxia (Liu Biao's province) against his advisors' cautious reservations are motivated by his desire to finish his father's works (in battling the Taiping sect) and avenge him (as he was killed by Liu Biao's general Huang Zu).
97	* KingIncognito: No, he's not that burly, manly warrior with funny hairstyle and cool headband. See his cousin, the nondescript, laid-back, unassuming guy who is sent to take charge of Yuan Shu's asylum and has a good time with it with Liaoyuan Huo? Yeah, that's Sun Ce.
98	* LeeroyJenkins: We find it awesome, but this aspect of Sun Ce isn't exactly encouraged in-story - after all, he's still the leader of an army and giving all precautions and advices the middle finger to charge right into the middle of the enemy line is ''not'' a risk-free, and therefore not at all recommendable, idea.
99	%%* MagneticHero
100	* MagnificentBastard: Outmatches his sworn brother Zhou Yu in this regard.
101	* MeaningfulEcho: What was spoken by Ling Cao at his moment of death dawns on Sun Ce when he's shot in the head, similar to how Ling Cao died. And how could we forget "A Hundred Days of Pain"?
102	* {{Mukokuseki}}: Blond hair, freckles and all, though this is actually a plot point, being [both a factor in Sun Ce's jealousy of his younger brother (explicity in novel only) and why his body double is Ling Cao.
103	* NoMoreHoldingBackSpeech: A variation which leads to IAmWhatIAm-esque moments. Sadly, the last one he has gets him too high and and off-guard, leading to his death.
104	* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: We only get to see the beginning and end of his conquest of the Eastern region, which is said to last five years, made of pure awesomeness, and has granted him legendary fame among the battle-weary eastern warlords.
105	* OneManArmy: A flashback reveals that he was one even as a teen - he once beat up an entire garrison (with him ending up none the worse for wear) with a wooden stick because some of them bullied his brother.
106	* PeacefulInDeath: When Sun Ce finally dies after three months of suffering, Zhou Yu sees his spirit gradually returning to his child form and running back to his father's arms.
107	--> Sun Jian's spirit: He's tired. Let him rest.
108	* RankScalesWithAsskicking: In charge, and is the best fighter of his clan.
109	* RevengeBeforeReason: Is accused of this whenever his eagerness to eradicate the Taiping cult, his father's former archenemy, and to defeat Huang Zu, his father's murderer gets out of hand.
110	* RuleOfThree: He avoids death at the hands of Taiping cult's assassins twice. He's not so lucky on the third time.
111	* SchmuckBait: Sun Ce is going out with very few escorts to visit his subordinate Ling Cao's grave, unguarded and trapped in the high mountain for the first time, sure let's bring out your entire army to surround the tomb and leave your base defenseless! WhatCouldPossiblyGoWrong, right Liu Yao? The irony is that he ''almost'' avoids it too, but Sun Ce's fight with Taishi Ci ends up longer than expected and he eventually falls for the bait all the same.
112	* SmugSmiler: Almost his default expression, because he's way too good at kicking asses.
113	* SparingTheAces: To Taishi Ci and Zhang Liao after handing their respective asses to them. In the later case, it turned out to be a bad move for his camp posthumously: in Chibi, the spared Zhang Liao couldn't have the rematch with Sun Ce that he wanted, so he settled for his next best bet - Sun Ce's friend Taishi Ci. Taishi Ci was killed in this fight.
114	* StepfordSmiler: Shows signs of this in the manhua whenever it comes to the subject of his father and during his nightmare in "A Hundred Days of Pain"]]. The novel plays it straight, where his carefree facade hides a world of unspoken self-esteem issues, including but not limited to his desire for his strict dad's approval and his jealousy of Sun Quan for being the main focus of Sun clan's adoration and Sun Jian's fatherly love.
115	* TheReveal: The "Sun Ce" that Gan Ning killed was actually Ling Cao, who acted as a bait to fool Yuan Shu into thinking Sun Ce was dead, so that the real Sun Ce (so far disguised as a distant cousin) could escape safely from servitude to Yuan Shu.
116	* WalkingSpoiler: It's hard to post any picture of him without spoiling the 'fake Sun Ce' plan.
117	* WellDoneSonGuy: Turns out to be one, despite his constant condemnations of his father's characteristic loyalty which got him killed. In the side-story novel ''Bofu'', he is this trope personified.
118	* YouKilledMyFather: To Yuan Shu and Huang Zu, and by proxy to Huang Zu's boss Liu Biao.
119	%%* YoungAndInCharge
120	* YoungConqueror: An actual in-universe RedBaron of his, right out of the novel and folklore alike!
121	%%* YouthfulFreckles
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124	[[folder:Sun Quan]]
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126	* TheApprentice: To Liu Da in martial arts and Shan Wu Ling (and for a few months Sima Yi) in business intrigues.
127	* BreakTheCutie: During Sun Ce's hundred-day period of suffering from a poisoned arrow, especially when Sun Ce mistakenly calls him "''Yu Ji''". It got even worse in ''Bofu'', where at one point "''his brother in his madness had taken him as Ling Cao, how he had hugged his thigh sobbing and groveling on the floor, ceaselessly kowtowing on the floor begging for his forgiveness.''"
128	* ChekhovsGunman: He's the boy who calls Shan Wu Ling "big sister" in a blink-and-you-will-miss-it moment in volume 6. Turns out they're not related at all.
129	* DespairEventHorizon: He must have crossed it once when Sun Jian died, but it doesn't make the blow any less easier to take when his brothers Sun Ce and Zhou Yu die one after another. The circumstance of Zhou Yu's passing (slowly dying by illness and then secretly passing away in a great fire he set up to take Cao Cao with him, with very few high-ranking generals privy to his death, leaving Sun Quan with no chance to properly mourn him) takes a great toll on his mentality - he's shown to have taken to drinking, which is a Foreshadowing of his (historically infamous) alcoholism in his twilight years.
130	* LargeHam: His morale-raising speech to his troops in chapter 406 shows that Sun Quan is on the fast track to becoming a motivational speaker on par with Cao Cao or Liu Bei.
131	* MagneticHero: Solidifies his status post chapter 406.
132	* MentorsNewHope: Sort of; Liu Da's first student Liaoyuan Huo turned out to be a disappointment as he failed to cut his ties with Sima clan and make a name for himself despite his talents like Liu Da did, so he hopes Quan will be more successful in whatever he does, and to this end he grants him the service of his warrior-assassins Xu Sheng and Pan Zhang.
133	* SiblingYinYang: With Sun Ce, but only in terms of their expertise - Ce is a warrior whose duty is to conquer more land and people for his clan, Quan is an administrator whose job is to manage the Eastern region's internal affairs. And they manage to balance the roles perfectly. (Afterward, Zhou Yu takes his oath-brother's place and by extension is also Quan's sworn brother as well.)
134	* StrongFamilyResemblance: The only one of three siblings to take after Sun Jian.
135	* WalkingSpoiler: Like his brother, impossible to have any pictures of him posted without spoiling one of the longest Chekhov threads in Ravages so far.
136	%%* YoungAndInCharge
137	* YoungestChildWins: In the novel ''Bofu'', at least. Of the three children, Quan is the smartest child and takes after Sun Jian the most and thus is the clan's favorite.
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143	* AllLoveIsUnrequited: For a girl who isn't a bad catch at all, her streak of chasing after men who already have their significant others is really unfortunate.
144	* AltarDiplomacy: She gets roped into one with Liu Bei to forge an Sun-Liu alliance. Unlike most examples, the two clans' interest are at odd from the very start - both want Jingzhou and want to trap the other into taking it for them, for one thing - so this marriage is just a device for the Suns to spy, manipulate, put Liu Bei under house arrest and have his best men at their beckon when needed.
145	* ArrangedMarriage: Has three over the course of ''Ravages'' and none of them ends well for her: her first fiancé Yuan Fang tried to kill her, the second one Liaoyuan Huo cancelled the engagement shortly after it's begun -- his heart having irrevocably gone for Xiao Meng -- and left her waiting for over ten years. [[spoiler:And when she gets to meet him again, her brother Quan and his cohorts wed her to the much older and recently widowed Liu Bei.]]
146	* BreakTheCutie: When Yuan Fang pushed her into a river to help him escape to safety, it really hammered home the truth that he wasn't in love with her and detested political marriage.
147	* LookingForLoveInAllTheWrongPlaces: Her first love is Yuan Fang, who is almost obsessively loyal to the memory of his dead girlfriend; the novel version indicates that she's not unaware of his love for Xiao Cha but falls head over heel for him anyway because it just makes him a more romantic figure in her eyes. Her second paramour is Liaoyuan Huo, who maintains a close relationship bordering on romantic with Xiao Meng; she continues to pursue him because she's confident she wouldn't lose to Xiao Meng. And sure enough, Huo ditches the engagement once Xiao Meng is supposedly dead. Years later, we find out she still holds onto her affections for him despite the long wait and her recent engagement to Liu Bei, his master. Given his character, no one's surprised that he rejects her the second time out of loyalty to Liu Bei, to say nothing of Xiao Meng's death.
148	* Mukokuseki: Blonde like her brother Ce.
149	* OldFlame: Zhao Yun is one to her, as shown when they meet again in Chibi arc. However by that time he has ceased to have any lingering feelings for her, either because of Xiao Meng or her subsequent engagement to his master Liu Bei.
150	* OldMaid: When she meets Huo again in Chibi arc, it turns out she's been waiting for him ever since their engagement was cancelled. When he (rather bluntly) [[ObliviousToLove asks her why she isn't married yet at that age]], [[BerserkButton she isn't happy]].
151	%%* PluckyGirl
152	* RelationshipSabotage: In the eyes of [[ShipperOnDeck many in-universe characters]] and the fandom, Huo and Xiao Meng were an item in all but name, until Shu [[TheBusCameBack comes back on a bus]] and gets engaged to him to foster an alliance between Sun clan and Sima clan. Huo readily agrees on Sima Yi's order, but Xiao Meng's heavily implied to be driven across DespairEventHorizon with this turn of event, which might have factored in his decision of HeroicSacrifice in volume 18.
153	* SmittenTeenageGirl: To her fiancé Yuan Fang, but she got over it after the events in BreakTheCutie above.
154	* TheBusCameBack: She disappeared after the Luoyang arc, then returned briefly to announce her engagement with Liaoyuan Huo as a ploy to gain Sima clan's supports for the Sun clan's return to the Eastern regions. After Huo left to find Xiao Meng, Sima Yi told Zhang Lei to cancel the engagement and send her home. Then it came back ''again'' when she reappeared a decade later in the Sun clan while the Sun and Liu clan forces were meeting up. And then she tries to beat Huo -- now Zhao Yun -- with a stick for 'abandoning' her, whereas she'd waited over ten years for him.
155	* RescueRomance: She started to fall for Huo after realizing he saved her life twice during the course of the hostage rescue mission.
156	%%* {{Tomboy}}
157	* UnequalPairing: Zhang Fei uses the difference in 'rank'[[note]]Zhao Yun being a military officer, however trusted, whereas she's a 'princess'[[/note]] as an excuse to reject Lu Su's offer to wed her to the "''[[BlatantLies brute]]''" Zhao Yun and instead proposes a match between her and Liu Bei. Needless to say, Lu Su jumps at that chance.
158	[[/folder]]
159
160	-----
161
162	!The generals
163
164	[[folder:Cheng Pu]]
165
166	* BrainwashedAndCrazy: In the Sun clan's plan to eradicate Taiping cult, he acts like he's hypnotized by Yu Ji's spell to attack Sun Ce, but as it turns out, Cheng Pu isn't. WordOfGod suggests that he had just been playing along, and such form of mind control doesn't work on people like him.
167	* FourStarBadass: During the Red Clif arc, he acts as the Commander of Sun army, with equal rank to Zhou Yu.
168	%%* OldSoldier
169	* TheMole: He pretends to be brainwashed by Yu Ji and kill Sun Ce as an excuse to the backstage. Once he's out of Yu Ji's sight, Cheng Pu swiftly wipes out Yu Ji's troops and insiders without arousing suspicion.
170	[[/folder]]
171
172	[[folder:Huang Gai]]
173
174	* CoolUncle: Among Sun Jian's generals, Huang Gai is the closest to his children. During the Luoyang arc, he looks after Sun Shu when she runs wayward trying to follow her fiancé. When Sun Quan was little, it's said that Huang Gai could always calm his crying fits. This relationship continues to the Sun's next generation - it turns out Sun Quan's child loves him as well.
175	%%* FourStarBadass
176	* OldSoldier: He can take on younger fighters with relative ease due to his long experience, and he can instruct the Sun siblings.
177	* WoundedGazelleGambit: He takes the fall for Taishi Ci's death and asks Sun Quan to beats him until his legs can no longer walk, all to get inside Cao Cao's ranks and becomes TheMole for Sun army. [[spoiler:Xun You doesn't buy it one bit and sees through his act before he even sets foots on their ship]]. Fortunately, [[spoiler:Huang Gai fooled the Cao army doctor into thinking his condition worse than it actually was, so Huang Gai nevertheless overpowered the Cao marines and escaped to shore, having scouted the Cao navy formation.]]
178	[[/folder]]
179
180	[[folder:Ling Tong]]
181
182	* BashBrothers: Ironically enough, with [[spoiler: Gan Ning]].
183	* BrainwashedAndCrazy: [[spoiler:After some direct contact with Yu Ji, he fell under the influence of his hypnosis and tried to take out Sun Ce.]]
184	* LeeroyJenkins: He assumes Sun Ce's role as the vanguard in the siege of Jiangxia.
185	* MyMasterRightOrWrong: When he's sent to supervise Yu Ji's actions, Yu Ji implants this idea in his mind to get him argue with Sun Ce and possibly weakens his loyal mindtrack enough for the hypnosis to slip through.
186	* WhatTheHellHero: When Sun Ce desecrated Ling Cao's tomb, gave Liu Yao's army his memento headband and blamed it on the enemy to inspire his troops, Ling Tong was the first to notice and call him out on this.
187	* YouKilledMyFather: Subverted in that he knows his father's sacrifice was needed to revive the Sun clan and harbors no resentment towards Sun Ce or whoever has a hand in the 'fake Sun Ce' plan... but the deliberate desecration of Ling Cao's tomb is a different story. The subversion even applies to his father's killer Gan Ning, who defected to the Sun camp before Chibi - he will never stop hating the man's guts, but as long as they both fight for the Sun family they're brothers-in-arms and Ling Tong would risk his life and limbs for him like he'd to any other, and and after protecting Gan Ning from Zhang Liao, Ling Tong makes a show of helping him back to his feet -- a gesture that Gan Ning accepts with tears of either gratitude or shame.
188	[[/folder]]
189
190	[[folder:Lu Meng]]
191
192	* BuffySpeak: When discussing war strategies, Lu Meng preferred vulgar and simple metaphors to using the proper military textbook terms. This, like his tendency to drop the F word, becomes a thing of the past after he devotes himself to study.
193	* BunnyEarsLawyer: He's a very talented tactician and general yet is illiterate [[note]]his first appearance consists of him telling a messenger to read aloud Zhou Yu's letter that was supposed to be for Lu Meng's eyes only[[/note]] and crude to the point that Sun Ce and Zhou Yu has to (constantly) tell him to study up.
194	** By the time of Sun Ce's death, he's shown to be a much more eloquent and studious man, and eight years later during a naval battle with Liu Biao's forces he's no longer spouting scatalogical insults.
195	** [[spoiler: It turns out he also keeps a personal hit squad - the White-Clothed troop (a nod to the historical Lu Meng's victory over Guan Yu [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BC_Meng#Invasion_of_Jing_Province when he ordered his troop to disguise as merchants in white clothes to sneak into Jingzhou]]. During the Sun army's siege of Xiangyang, this troop pulls the wool over the Cao army defense officer's eyes and breaches the fortress' defense. Sima Yi's troops are swiftly annihilated and Sima Yi himself is also seriously injured. Lu Meng nearly becomes a HeroKiller right then and there, if not for San Chuan sacrificing himself to help his master escape.]]
196	* ClusterFBomb: His speech can get liberal with a huge amount of scatological vocabulary, to people's exasperation. He no longer drops these after he bothers to read books.
197	* CulturedWarrior: After Sun Ce's death.
198	%%* GeniusBruiser
199	* NumberTwo: After Zhou Yu's death.
200	* RedOniBlueOni: With Lu Xun.
201	* SirSwearsalot: When he debuts. Drops it after he resolves to become a learned man following Sun Ce's death.
202	[[/folder]]
203
204	[[folder:Gan Ning]]
205
206	* BashBrothers: Together with Huang Zhong, they make a fine team guarding Jiangxia against Sun clan's advance. [[spoiler:Later when he joins the Sun clan, his partner is Ling Tong.]]
207	* CombatPragmatist: He's not above using hidden weapons in close combats. Also, guy deserves credits for his creative way of putting arrows to good use in a fist fight... [[spoiler:This is a trick he learned from the foremost master of the bow of ''Ravages'', Huang Zhong.]]
208	* DefectorFromDecadence: At the climax of the Battle of Jiangxia, he joined the Sun clan thanks to Pang Tong's InformedAbility of persuasion. It helps that by then Gan Ning was already disinclined against his lord Liu Biao and his commander Huang Zu for their incompetence.
209	* HeroKiller: Though it never really goes the way he intends: He killed 'Sun Ce' only for that to turn out to be Ling Cao, and the one time he actually went against Sun Ce he managed to give Ce a hard time at best. When he fights Zhang Liao in the Chibi arc, he boastingly declares himself this to Zhang Liao's face as before giving him a knife on the sides, but Zhang Liao just shrugs it off and proceeds to kick his ass before Ling Tong jumps in.
210	* MixAndMatchWeapon: His polearm can also be used for shooting arrows thanks to the strings attached to it.
211	[[/folder]]
212
213	[[folder:Taishi Ci]]
214	[[quoteright:255:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/27137_526069287437059_1969429197_n_6929.jpg]]
215
216	* DefeatMeansFriendship: How Sun Ce got him to come over to Sun clan's side. Trolling the hell out of him helped, too.
217	* FriendlyEnemy: Started out as this to Sun Ce.
218	%%* HotBlooded
219	* {{Irony}}: He's killed by Zhang Liao, the man whom seven years earlier his late friend Sun Ce had spared and challenged for a rematch.
220	* TheCallPutMeOnHold: He is a young and talented warrior, always eager to prove himself to his lords (first Kong Rong, then Liu Yao) who were either too conservative to use his strategies or just plain disapprove of his hotbloodedness. Of course, he gets his due after joining the Sun clan.
221	* UndyingLoyalty:
222	** His response to Sun Ce trying to recruit him after he trashed Liu Yao's army and led to his death was, not surprisingly, telling him to suck it. Sun Ce had to make a show of demonstrating the transient and hypocritical nature of loyalty in this CrapsackWorld setting to break his resolve and make him switch sides.
223	** Ironically, his death scene is accompanied by a monologue mocking loyalty, quoted from Sun Ce the day he surrendered to him: "''Loyalty is a method; with false words the men of letters can send ignorant to their deaths. It is a despicable method by a lord to protect his own interest''."
224	* UnwittingPawn: Of Liu Yao's generals he alone fell for Sun Ce's SchmuckBait and ran off to fight Sun Ce for long enough to worry Huang Gai, forcing the old man to come up to the mountain and retrieve Sun Ce. It all played into Sun Ce's gambit to fool Liu Yao into believing he was indeed in a tight spot and ripe for capture, and the moment Liu Yao's troops left the base Zhou Yu attacked them with full force.
225	** A friendly exchange of souvenir soon after had him bring back Ling Cao's headband (which he was led to believe was Sun Ce's) and Sun Ce in possession of his weapon. Sun Ce later combined them into an even deadlier BatmanGambit by sticking them onto Ling Cao's tomb that Sun Ce himself vandalized to raise his army morale, which delivered the finishing blow to Liu Yao's force.
226	[[/folder]]
227
228	-----
229
230	!The advisors
231
232	[[folder:Zhou Yu]]
233	See [[Characters/RavagesOfTimeEightGeniuses The Eight Geniuses]]
234	[[/folder]]
235
236	[[folder:[[spoiler:Pang Tong]]]]
237	See [[Characters/RavagesOfTimeEightGeniuses The Eight Geniuses]]
238	[[/folder]]
239
240	[[folder:Lu Xun]]
241
242	* BigDamnHeroes: [[spoiler:As he surveyed Shouchun, he showed up just in time to save Sima Yi from certain death at the hands of Yuan Fang's assassins.]]
243	* CallBack: His appearance reminds Sima Yi of himself - [[spoiler:a hidden schemer operating in secret who happens to rescue another schemer who was acting openly, just like how the Crippled Legion saved Yuan Fang back in Luoyang.]]
244	* IFightForTheStrongestSide: The Lu clan was previously an ally of the Taiping cult, but under his command has surrendered to the emerging Sun clan despite Sun Ce[[note]]or rather Ling Cao[[/note]] having previously slain Xun's father, Lu Kang of Lujiang while Sun Ce was still Yuan Shu's vassal. (It's explained that Lu Xun doesn't hold it against Sun Ce, considering the blood debt already paid by [[spoiler:both Ling Cao and Yuan Shu subsequently dying as well]].)
245	* NumberTwo: To Lu Meng.
246	* OhCrap: A ''big'' one in [[spoiler:Chibi, when his side's entire scheme to burn Cao Cao's fleet was seen through and taken apart by Jia Xu and Xun You. As the situation looked bleaker than ever[[note]]Huang Gai was captured, the mole Kan Ze was found out executed, Lu Xun's own army was lured on land and their escape route by the ships was cut off[[/note]] and with no other cards in his hand, Lu Xun had to order his men to swim to safety. Fortunately, the Cao navy underestimated just how good the men of the Southland were at ''that''...]]
247	** Later subverted when [[spoiler:it turns out the joke was on Jia Xu and Xun You: Huang Gai escaped with information on the Cao navy's formations, Kan Ze's role had been a misdirection[[note]]on top of him not actually being dead[[/note]], and Lu Xun's fleets[[note]]actually containing not half the number of troops that was expected[[/note]] were just baiting Xun You to move in for the killing move, leaving them ''and'' Jia Xu's troops in the forest, which the fleets were shielding, wide open for Zhou Yu's fire attacks... and the Sun troops that were supposedly 'lured on land', led by Lu Meng, were actually aimed for Cao Cao's base all along.]]
248	* RedOniBlueOni: The Blue Oni to Lu Meng's Red.
249	%%* YoungAndInCharge
250	[[/folder]]
251
252	[[folder:Lu Su]]
253
254	* DidntSeeThatComing: He proposed to Sun Quan a plan similar to Zhuge Liang's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longzhong_Plan Longzhong plang]] - that is, a plan to allly with Liu Bei to fight Cao Cao and kickstart the formation of the Three Kingdom divisions. For this reason, he's the most vocal advocate of the alliance with Liu Bei on Sun clan side. Sun Quan and Zhou Yu accede to this proposal - but they do not reveal to him until later that they intend for ''Ma Chao'', of the Ma clan in Xiliang, to be the third party of the Three Kingdoms.
255	* NiceGuy: He's still GenreSavvy enough to avoid being GoodIsDumb, a fatal attribute for any characters in ''Ravages''' political scenes. In fact, Sun Quan points out that being a decent guy actually works to Lu Su's advantage in his capacity as a diplomat, because it's just harder for people to refuse him[[note]]presumably as opposed to other characters who are known rat bastards[[/note]].
256	%% * ShipSinking: By arranging the marriage between Sun Shu and Liu Bei at Zhang Fei's prodding, he sinks any hope of a re-ignited passion between Sun Shu and her former fiance Zhao Yun.
257	%%* TheStrategist
258	[[/folder]]
259
260	[[folder:Kan Ze]]
261
262	* DidntSeeThatComing: When acting as TheMole for Sun Quan in Cao camp, the involvement of Sima Yi, one of his old "''students''" and [[spoiler:Taiping leader/shaman extraordinaire Zuo Ci]] completely screwed up his plans. [[spoiler:Another thing he didn't see coming is that Zhou Yu were also just using him as a pawn.]]
263	* FakingTheDead: After being exposed as a mole, Kan Ze's corpse is seen tied to a floating pole in the path of the Sun navy to shake their morale and warn Lu Xun that the couterespionnage strategy was completely derailed. [[spoiler:It turned out that Zuo Ci used his medical skills to fake another corpse to be his, and Sima Yi later secretly released Kan Ze to the Sun to take back Hua Tuo, as part of his deal with Zhuge Liang.]]
264	* OldMaster: The Eights' professor in meteorology.
265	* TheMole: He retired from the Sun clan's service on the pretext of his political differences with Zhang Jiao to find a chance of being recruited by Cao Cao. Cao Cao & co. didn't take much time to figure out his true intents, [[spoiler:but not the fact that ''that'' whole scheme was a charade staged by Zhou Yu to lure Cao Cao into a false sense of security after Kan Ze's exposure, setting up the stage for the game-ending fire attacks on Cao Cao's fleets in Chibi.]]

Context Characters / RavagesOfTimeSunClan