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Now a disambiguation.


* WinTheCrowd: Turning over one of Marvel's flagship titles to a B lister Thor wannabe? Turned out pretty well.
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* MemeticMutation: See the page image. Herc has become the poster boy of that one meme.

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* MemeticMutation: See the page image. Herc has become the poster boy of that one the "Cool story, bro!" meme.
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* InternetBackdraft: Hercules' AmbiguouslyBi status being Jossed by Marvel's EIC has rubbed some fans the wrong way. Partially for the fact it meant denying the MU an openly bi male character (which is a very under-represented minority), but also for the fact it goes against the original Greek mythology, where Herc was bi, although it's worth mentioning that the character isn't only bisexual in the Greek myths, but also a pederast among a long list of other dropped traits. Fan reactions have been divided between those who felt that there was a great deal of story potential with a bisexual Hercules and those who felt that the character should be heterosexual a he was for most of his history.

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moved to the tear jerker page


* TearJerker:
** [[spoiler:What happens when Amadeus finds the real Kirby.]]
** The end of "Assault On New Olympus".
** Hercules revealing why he uses the Roman version of his birth name, Heracles. [[spoiler: If you add in what Hera reveals at the end of the earlier ''New Labors Of Hercules'' miniseries, that the murder of Herc's family really was all her fault, it becomes more powerful - Herc wasn't to blame, but he continues to accept blame anyhow. [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation You could argue]] that this makes Herc TheAtoner.]]



* TheWoobie: Hebe, long-suffering Hebe.

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* TheWoobie: Hebe, long-suffering Hebe.Hebe.

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* MartyStu: Amadeus Cho came across this to many readers when he was first created thanks to showing up fellow super-geniuses [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Reed Richards]] and [[IronMan Tony Stark]]. Toned down and became a more balanced character later in the series debatable if he retained traits of this.
* MarySue: You'll often hear criticism of Amadeus Cho for being one of these; he had his moments starting out, but by the end of the first arc he's a well-rounded character.
** There's a FandomNod to Cho's reputation in ''Chaos War'' #5.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The only defined attributes Hercules has is that he's arrogant, he hits on women, and he loves to fight. That's about it, and even those three traits are things you can flesh out in a multitude of ways. In some stories, he's so astonishingly arrogant that he'll act like a {{Jerkass}} bully or do something stupid just because someone slightly bruised his ego. In others, he's confident but well aware of his limits and cares about the rights and well-being of others. In some stories, he's merely charming and women flock to ''him'' because of the obvious {{Hunk}}iness and legendary status. In others, Herc is a sexual harasser and possible rapist who absolutely won't take no for an answer or has actually ''tricked'' women into sleeping with him. And none of this is getting into how writers and fans interpret his motivations for behaving this way: some portray it as just pure selfishness, others as a product of his era and status, others as a coping mechanism for all the crap he's been through, and so on and so forth.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: The only defined attributes Hercules has is that he's arrogant, he hits on women, and he loves to fight. That's about it, and even those three traits are things you can flesh out in a multitude of ways. In some stories, he's so astonishingly arrogant that he'll act like a {{Jerkass}} bully or do something stupid just because someone slightly bruised his ego. In others, he's confident but well aware of his limits and cares about the rights and well-being of others. In some stories, he's merely charming and women flock to ''him'' because of the obvious {{Hunk}}iness and legendary status. In others, Herc is a sexual harasser and possible rapist who absolutely won't take no for an answer or has actually ''tricked'' women into sleeping with him. And none of this is getting into how writers and fans interpret his motivations for behaving this way: some portray it as just pure selfishness, others as a product of his era and status, others as a coping mechanism for all the crap he's been through, and so on and so forth.
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* BaseBreaker: Hercules himself ''shatters'' the fandom into several factions who each have their own views of him. The Pak/Van Lente run brought a new form of fan respect for the character, but this is largely because they chose their own interpretation to portray. Hercules is a character that other writers have portrayed as a moronic, alcoholic, misogynistic, blundering bully that often [[NiceJobBreakingItHero actually made problems worse]] and there are a lot fans who point to ''this'' version of the guy as the reason they'll never like the character. However, he's always had his fans, even with the more abrasive interpretations, and people who liked the Pak/Van Lente run might point to this as a sign of CharacterDevelopment. Dan Abnett's run on ''Comicbook/{{Hercules 2015}}'' causes yet ''another'' two factions to pop up--one that thinks it's about time that Hercules started ''actually acting'' like a hero and another who likes the idea of a TookALevelInBadass Herc, but feel it goes way too far in painting hedonism as inherently bad.

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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Hercules himself ''shatters'' the fandom into several factions who each have their own views of him. The Pak/Van Lente run brought a new form of fan respect for the character, but this is largely because they chose their own interpretation to portray. Hercules is a character that other writers have portrayed as a moronic, alcoholic, misogynistic, blundering bully that often [[NiceJobBreakingItHero actually made problems worse]] and there are a lot fans who point to ''this'' version of the guy as the reason they'll never like the character. However, he's always had his fans, even with the more abrasive interpretations, and people who liked the Pak/Van Lente run might point to this as a sign of CharacterDevelopment. Dan Abnett's run on ''Comicbook/{{Hercules 2015}}'' causes yet ''another'' two factions to pop up--one that thinks it's about time that Hercules started ''actually acting'' like a hero and another who likes the idea of a TookALevelInBadass Herc, but feel it goes way too far in painting hedonism as inherently bad.

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