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* AwardSnub: It wasn't nominated for Best Picture or even the expected Best Foreign Language Film at the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s, despite being the most critically acclaimed film of 1985. (The Foreign Language Film snub wasn't the Academy's fault. ''Ran'' didn't get nominated because Kurosawa was unpopular in the Japanese film industry, so the Japanese film board refused to submit it for nomination.) It was only after ''other film directors'' (notably Creator/SidneyLumet) campaigned for Kurosawa's nomination for Best Director that he was successfully nominated. He still lost to Creator/SydneyPollack for ''Film/OutOfAfrica''. The movie ''did'' win an Oscar for the incredible Costume Design for Emi Wada, and it was nominated for Cinematography and Art (Set) Direction.
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* AwardSnub: It wasn't nominated for Best Picture or even the expected Best Foreign Language Film at the UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s, despite being one of the most critically acclaimed film of 1985. (The Foreign Language Film snub wasn't the Academy's fault. ''Ran'' didn't get nominated because Kurosawa was unpopular in the Japanese film industry, so the Japanese film board refused to submit it for nomination.) It was only after ''other film directors'' (notably Creator/SidneyLumet) campaigned for Kurosawa's nomination for Best Director that he was successfully nominated. He still lost to Creator/SydneyPollack for ''Film/OutOfAfrica''. The movie ''did'' win an Oscar for the incredible Costume Design for Emi Wada, and it was nominated for Cinematography and Art (Set) Direction.
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* MoralEventHorizon: Much of Kaede's scheming against Hidetora and his family is fairly justified (or at least understandable) considering her [[DarkAndTroubledPast unpleasant history with the Lord.]] [[spoiler: Her plan to murder Sué, an innocent party and entirely unneccessary to her long-term goals, proves that her revenge plot has pushed her past any chance of sympathy.]]
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* AwardSnub: Not It wasn't nominated for Best Picture or even the expected Best Foreign Language Film at the Academy Awards, UsefulNotes/{{Academy Award}}s, despite being the most critically acclaimed film of 1985. (The Foreign Language Film snub wasn't the Academy's fault. ''Ran'' didn't get nominated because Kurosawa was unpopular in the Japanese film industry, so the Japanese film board refused to submit it for nomination.) It was only after ''other film directors'' (notably Creator/SidneyLumet) campaigned for Kurosawa's nomination for Best Director that he was successfully nominated. He still lost to Sidney Pollack Creator/SydneyPollack for ''Film/OutOfAfrica''. The movie ''did'' win an Oscar for the incredible Costume Design for Emi Wada, and it was nominated for Cinematography and Art (Set) Direction.
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* TheWoobie: Tsurumaru, Lady Sué, Kyoami.
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* AwardSnub: Not nominated for Best Picture or even the expected Best Foreign Language Film at the Academy Awards, despite being the most critically acclaimed film of 1985. (The Foreign Language Film snub wasn't the Academy's fault. ''Ran'' didn't get nominated because Kurosawa was unpopular in the Japanese film industry, so the Japanese film board refused to submit it for nomination.) It was only after ''other film directors'' (notably Creator/SidneyLumet) campaigned for Kurosawa's nomination for Best Director that he was successfully nominated. He still lost to Sidney Pollack for ''Film/OutOfAfrica''. The movie ''did'' win an Oscar for the incredible Costume Design for Emi Wada, and it was nominated for Cinematography and Art (Set) Direction.
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* TearJerker: The ending. [[spoiler: As Saburo's army carry the bodies of Hidetora and his son away, Tsurumaru is left alone atop the desolate ruins of his family's old castle, not knowing that his sister has been murdered. As he blindly walks around trying to find a way out of the ruins, he runs up against a cliff and ends up dropping the scroll of the Buddha that Sue gave him for protection, leaving him completely alone without even the comfort of the gods, as the sun sinks over the horizon and the screen fades to black.]] ''Goddamn.''
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** The ending. [[spoiler: As Saburo's army carry the bodies of Hidetora and his son away, Tsurumaru is left alone atop the desolate ruins of his family's old castle, not knowing that his sister has been murdered. As he blindly walks around trying to find a way out of the ruins, he runs up against a cliff and ends up dropping the scroll of the Buddha that Sue gave him for protection, leaving him completely alone without even the comfort of the gods, as the sun sinks over the horizon and the screen fades to black.]] ''Goddamn.''
** The ending. [[spoiler: As Saburo's army carry the bodies of Hidetora and his son away, Tsurumaru is left alone atop the desolate ruins of his family's old castle, not knowing that his sister has been murdered. As he blindly walks around trying to find a way out of the ruins, he runs up against a cliff and ends up dropping the scroll of the Buddha that Sue gave him for protection, leaving him completely alone without even the comfort of the gods, as the sun sinks over the horizon and the screen fades to black.]] ''Goddamn.''
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* FauxSymbolism: The boar hunt.
** At the risk of contrariness, the hunt isn't as symbollically important as the quarry. After Hidetora kills the boar, he refuses to roast it, since the meat would be too tough. It's violence for violence's sake, which is the only thing the House of Ichimonji is good at – even if they pretend otherwise.
** At the risk of contrariness, the hunt isn't as symbollically important as the quarry. After Hidetora kills the boar, he refuses to roast it, since the meat would be too tough. It's violence for violence's sake, which is the only thing the House of Ichimonji is good at – even if they pretend otherwise.
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** At the risk of contrariness, the hunt isn't as symbollically important as the quarry. After Hidetora kills the boar, he refuses to roast it, since the meat would be too tough. It's violence for violence's sake, which is the only thing the House of Ichimonji is good at – even if they pretend otherwise.
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** The deliberately exaggerated, Noh-influenced performances and make-up also work way better than one might expect.
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** The deliberately exaggerated, Noh-influenced performances and make-up also work way better than one might expect. It's over-the-top, but it feels right and it enhances the film's mood.
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** The extremely dramatic Noh-influenced performances and make-up also work way better than one might expect.
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** The extremely dramatic deliberately exaggerated, Noh-influenced performances and make-up also work way better than one might expect.
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* {{Magnificent B|astard}}itch: Lady Kaede, who manipulates the house of Ichimonji into a civil war [[spoiler: and completely succeeds in destroying it]].
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* {{Magnificent B|astard}}itch: MagnificentBitch: Lady Kaede, who Kaede is the true villain of the film. Desiring revenge against Hidetora and the Ichimonji clan for slaughtering her family years ago, Kaede convinces her husband, Hidetora's eldest son Taro, to usurp his father and war against his brother Jiro. Upon Taro's death, she effortlessly seduces Jiro, convinces him to kill his wife and then manipulates him into disastrous strategies that bring the house of Ichimonji into a civil war [[spoiler: and completely succeeds in destroying it]].to ruin. When Jiro's general Kurogane confronts her when the battle is lost, Kaede calmly admits to everything, showing absolutely no fear of dying with her ultimate goals achieved.
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* VindicatedByHistory: The film wasn't a success (nor was it a flop) when it was released in the US in 1985, doing modestly at the box office (if not slightly above average for a foreign film) and winning only a handful of awards, despite near universal critical acclaim. Its response in Japan however, -- like most of Kurosawa's post ''Film/RedBeard'' efforts -- was largely of disinterest and the Japanese film board actively sabotaged its chances of being nominated for a Best Foreign Film Oscar. Nowadays, it's widely considered among Creator/AkiraKurosawa's masterpieces and among the best movies of all time.
