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Misuse of Misaimed Marketing, and the 'Microsoft thought Brute Force would be their big hit' claim is factually dubious: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=15998349010A25653400&page=21#comment-517


* MisaimedMarketing: Microsoft's marketing department initially expected ''Brute Force'' to be the KillerApp action shooter franchise for the [=Xbox=], developed entirely in-house specifically for the [=Xbox=]. By contrast, they bought out Creator/{{Bungie}} so they could rush ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' in time for the console launch which would ensure ''Brute Force'' had an established market to sell to when it came out. Needless to say, they misjudged the eventual relative popularity of the two franchises '''badly''', and quietly shifted their focus after ''Brute Force'''s release to promote more ''Halo'' games.
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!!The Comic Book
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** One of the reasons we love Phil Coulson in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse was because he was so calm and collected about all the strange stuff that would happen around him, and taking absolutely no crap from anyone. If one of his first assignments really was dealing with Brute Force, his ability to stay cool under pressure would make a ''lot'' more sense- he's seen ''way'' weirder things. Further, one of the FBI agents that we see investigating Doctor Pierce may have been Phil Coulson at a very early age.
** Their inclusion in ''ComicBook/XMen'' and the retcon that the armor was developed as a part of the Weapon program leads to an interesting one for Multicorp. While normally, one would just assume that Multicorp is run by very stupid people who think that it's a good idea to just steal from their own subsidiaries for very thin reason that could be easily be punctured by basic logic. However, since the actions of Frost were to use Heavy Metal and Brute Force technology against his own commercial rivals, it suddenly makes more sense why Frost would steal the gorilla from himself- it offers plausible deniability while allowing him to gain Weapon technology for his own usage.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The cover for the first issue alone showcases an [[IncrediblyLamePun armed]] and angry cyborg dolphin firing a laser gun. [[RuleOfCool That should tell you what kind of comic you're in for.]]
** The first page has Clown terrorists with guns breaking into a secret lab where a scientist is attaching cyber-armor to a gorilla. Because of course it is.
* NarmCharm: It tries to be serious, but its premise is so ridiculous and its execution so equally ludicrous that it would be painful to read if it wasn't also so damned entertaining for those same reasons. It's so 80s that it hurts and emits wafts of pure cheese from every orifice, but no one cares because we're all along for the ride.
** ROBO-BEAR VS. CYBER-GORILLA.
* SoBadItsGood: As others have commented, the plot is paper-thin, the environmental message is hit home with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, and the characters tend to make decisions so illogical that they'd make a Vulcan's head explode- but it's so wonderfully goofy and awesome that one can't help but love the absurdity of Robo-Bear vs. Cyber Gorilla, or clowns stealing a gorilla covered in bandoliers in order to destroy the Rainforest.
* TooGoodToLast: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} Bi-Annual'' #1, twenty-five years later. They've actually made a few appearances since then.
* TheWoobie: Soar in ''Deadpool Bi-Annual'' #1. His leadership of the group was awful and accomplished no goals for the group (focusing on killing snakes). Deadpool openly states that he had no plan for killing him since he was so pathetic (when he had elaborate schemes for offing everyone else), and his portion of the Tatanka fight can be summed up as "He is stepped on and only shows up again after the fight is over."
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** Their inclusion in ''ComicBook/XMen'' and the retcon that the armor was developed as a part of the Weapon program leads to an interesting one for Multicorp. While normally, one would just assume that Multicorp is run by very stupid people who think that it's a good idea to just steal from their own subsidiaries, which is why they stole the Gorilla- and let's be honest, they are rather stupid, so that's a safe assumption to make. However, since the actions of Frost were to use Heavy Metal and Brute Force technology against his own commercial rivals, it suddenly makes more sense why Frost would steal the gorilla from himself- it offers plausible deniability while allowing him to gain Weapon technology for his own usage.

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** Their inclusion in ''ComicBook/XMen'' and the retcon that the armor was developed as a part of the Weapon program leads to an interesting one for Multicorp. While normally, one would just assume that Multicorp is run by very stupid people who think that it's a good idea to just steal from their own subsidiaries, which is why they stole the Gorilla- and let's subsidiaries for very thin reason that could be honest, they are rather stupid, so that's a safe assumption to make.easily be punctured by basic logic. However, since the actions of Frost were to use Heavy Metal and Brute Force technology against his own commercial rivals, it suddenly makes more sense why Frost would steal the gorilla from himself- it offers plausible deniability while allowing him to gain Weapon technology for his own usage.



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%% * SoBadItsGood: As others have commented, the plot is paper-thin, the environmental message is hit home with all the subtlety of a sledgehammer, and the characters tend to make decisions so illogical that they'd make a Vulcan's head explode- but it's so wonderfully goofy and awesome that one can't help but love the absurdity of Robo-Bear vs. Cyber Gorilla, or clowns stealing a gorilla covered in bandoliers in order to destroy the Rainforest.
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** One of the reasons we love Phil Coulson in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was because he was so calm and collected about all the strange stuff that would happen around him, and taking absolutely no crap from anyone. If one of his first assignments really was dealing with Brute Force, his ability to stay cool under pressure would make a ''lot'' more sense- he's seen ''way'' weirder things. Further, one of the FBI agents that we see investigating Doctor Pierce may have been Phil Coulson at a very early age.
** Their inclusion in X-Men and the retcon that the armor was developed as a part of the Weapon program leads to an interesting one for Multicorp. While normally, one would just assume that Multicorp is run by very stupid people who think that it's a good idea to just steal from their own subsidiaries, which is why they stole the Gorilla- and let's be honest, they are rather stupid, so that's a safe assumption to make. However, since the actions of Frost were to use Heavy Metal and Brute Force technology against his own commercial rivals, it suddenly makes more sense why Frost would steal the gorilla from himself- it offers plausible deniability while allowing him to gain Weapon technology for his own usage.

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** One of the reasons we love Phil Coulson in the Marvel Cinematic Universe Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse was because he was so calm and collected about all the strange stuff that would happen around him, and taking absolutely no crap from anyone. If one of his first assignments really was dealing with Brute Force, his ability to stay cool under pressure would make a ''lot'' more sense- he's seen ''way'' weirder things. Further, one of the FBI agents that we see investigating Doctor Pierce may have been Phil Coulson at a very early age.
** Their inclusion in X-Men ''ComicBook/XMen'' and the retcon that the armor was developed as a part of the Weapon program leads to an interesting one for Multicorp. While normally, one would just assume that Multicorp is run by very stupid people who think that it's a good idea to just steal from their own subsidiaries, which is why they stole the Gorilla- and let's be honest, they are rather stupid, so that's a safe assumption to make. However, since the actions of Frost were to use Heavy Metal and Brute Force technology against his own commercial rivals, it suddenly makes more sense why Frost would steal the gorilla from himself- it offers plausible deniability while allowing him to gain Weapon technology for his own usage.



* TooGoodToLast: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later. They've actually made a few appearances since then.
* TheWoobie: Soar in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1. His leadership of the group was awful and accomplished no goals for the group (focusing on killing snakes), Deadpool openly states that he had no plan for killing him since he was so pathetic (when he had elaborate schemes for offing everyone else), and his portion of the Tatanka fight can be summed up as "He is stepped on and only shows up again after the fight is over."

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* TooGoodToLast: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual ''ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} Bi-Annual'' #1, twenty-five years later. They've actually made a few appearances since then.
* TheWoobie: Soar in Deadpool Bi-Annual ''Deadpool Bi-Annual'' #1. His leadership of the group was awful and accomplished no goals for the group (focusing on killing snakes), snakes). Deadpool openly states that he had no plan for killing him since he was so pathetic (when he had elaborate schemes for offing everyone else), and his portion of the Tatanka fight can be summed up as "He is stepped on and only shows up again after the fight is over."
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* CrazyAwesome: The cover for the first issue alone showcases an [[IncrediblyLamePun armed]] and angry cyborg dolphin firing a laser gun. [[RuleOfCool That should tell you what kind of comic you're in for.]]

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* CrazyAwesome: SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: The cover for the first issue alone showcases an [[IncrediblyLamePun armed]] and angry cyborg dolphin firing a laser gun. [[RuleOfCool That should tell you what kind of comic you're in for.]]

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Linkara (of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Atop The Fourth Wall]]) speculates that since it was revealed that one of Agent Coulson's first assignments in the nineties was working with Brute Force (as revealed in the Deadpool Bi-Annual comic), he may have been one of the FBI agents assigned to Doctor Pierce's case back in the original mini-series.
** He also states that since we are not told what happens to Pierce in the Deadpool comic, and it's been something along the lines of two decades since the miniseries, it's possible that Pierce had something happen to him in one of the many horrible things that happens to the Marvel Universe (Skrull invasions, World War Hulk, and the Dire Wraith invasion, just to name a ''very'' abridged list), or that something in one of those events made him grow disillusioned with the goals of the team, leading to them splitting off from him.
** One of the reasons we love Phil Coulson in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was because he was so calm and collected about all the strange stuff that would happen around him, and taking absolutely no crap from anyone. If one of his first assignments really was dealing with Brute Force, his ability to stay cool under pressure would make a ''lot'' more sense- he's seen ''way'' weirder things.
*** Further, one of the FBI agents that we see investigating Doctor Pierce may have been Phil Coulson at a very early age.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Linkara (of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Atop The Fourth Wall]]) speculates that since it was revealed that one of Agent Coulson's first assignments in the nineties was working with Brute Force (as revealed in the Deadpool Bi-Annual comic), he may have been one of the FBI agents assigned to Doctor Pierce's case back in the original mini-series.
** He also states that since we are not told what happens to Pierce in the Deadpool comic, and it's been something along the lines of two decades since the miniseries, it's possible that Pierce had something happen to him in one of the many horrible things that happens to the Marvel Universe (Skrull invasions, World War Hulk, and the Dire Wraith invasion, just to name a ''very'' abridged list), or that something in one of those events made him grow disillusioned with the goals of the team, leading to them splitting off from him.
AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** One of the reasons we love Phil Coulson in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was because he was so calm and collected about all the strange stuff that would happen around him, and taking absolutely no crap from anyone. If one of his first assignments really was dealing with Brute Force, his ability to stay cool under pressure would make a ''lot'' more sense- he's seen ''way'' weirder things.
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things. Further, one of the FBI agents that we see investigating Doctor Pierce may have been Phil Coulson at a very early age.
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* SoBadItsGood: An opinion shared by [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] and many others.

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%% * SoBadItsGood: An opinion shared by [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] and many others.
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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later. They've actually made a few appearances since then.

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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]: TooGoodToLast: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later. They've actually made a few appearances since then.

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*** Further, one of the FBI agents that we see investigating Doctor Pierce may have been Phil Coulson at a very early age.
** Their inclusion in X-Men and the retcon that the armor was developed as a part of the Weapon program leads to an interesting one for Multicorp. While normally, one would just assume that Multicorp is run by very stupid people who think that it's a good idea to just steal from their own subsidiaries, which is why they stole the Gorilla- and let's be honest, they are rather stupid, so that's a safe assumption to make. However, since the actions of Frost were to use Heavy Metal and Brute Force technology against his own commercial rivals, it suddenly makes more sense why Frost would steal the gorilla from himself- it offers plausible deniability while allowing him to gain Weapon technology for his own usage.



* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later.

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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later. They've actually made a few appearances since then.
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** He also states that since we are not told what happens to Pierce in the Deadpool comic, and it's been something along the lines of two decades since the miniseries, it's possible that Pierce had something happen to him in one of the many horrible things that happens to the Marvel Universe (Skrull invasions, World War Hulk, and the Dire Wraith invasion, just to name a ''very'' abridged list) made him grow disillusioned with the goals of the team, leading to them splitting off from him.

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** He also states that since we are not told what happens to Pierce in the Deadpool comic, and it's been something along the lines of two decades since the miniseries, it's possible that Pierce had something happen to him in one of the many horrible things that happens to the Marvel Universe (Skrull invasions, World War Hulk, and the Dire Wraith invasion, just to name a ''very'' abridged list) list), or that something in one of those events made him grow disillusioned with the goals of the team, leading to them splitting off from him.



* NarmCharm: It tries to be serious, but its premise is so ridiculous and its execution so equally ludicrous that it would be painful to read if it wasn't also so damned entertaning for those same reasons. It's so 80s that it hurts and emits wafts of pure cheese from every orifice, but no one cares because we're all along for the ride.

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* NarmCharm: It tries to be serious, but its premise is so ridiculous and its execution so equally ludicrous that it would be painful to read if it wasn't also so damned entertaning entertaining for those same reasons. It's so 80s that it hurts and emits wafts of pure cheese from every orifice, but no one cares because we're all along for the ride.
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* If you watch Atop The Fourth Wall, you're more likely to call Uproar "Cyber-Gorilla," and Wreckless[=/=]Bear "Robo-Bear."
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** One of the reasons we love Phil Coulson in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was because he was so calm and collected about all the strange stuff that would happen around him, and taking absolutely no crap from anyone. If one of his first assignments really was dealing with Brute Force, his ability to stay cool under pressure would make a ''lot'' more sense- he's seen ''way'' weirder things.



** The first page has Clown terrorists with guns breaking into a secret lab where a scientist is attaching cyber-armor to a gorilla.

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** The first page has Clown terrorists with guns breaking into a secret lab where a scientist is attaching cyber-armor to a gorilla. Because of course it is.


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* TheWoobie: Soar in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1. His leadership of the group was awful and accomplished no goals for the group (focusing on killing snakes), Deadpool openly states that he had no plan for killing him since he was so pathetic (when he had elaborate schemes for offing everyone else), and his portion of the Tatanka fight can be summed up as "He is stepped on and only shows up again after the fight is over."
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* MisaimedMarketing: Microsoft's marketing department initially expected ''Brute Force'' to be the KillerApp action shooter franchise for the [=Xbox=], developed entirely in-house specifically for the [=Xbox=]. By contrast, they bought out Creator/{{Bungie}} so they could rush ''Franchise/{{Halo}}'' in time for the console launch which would ensure ''Brute Force'' had an established market to sell to when it came out. Needless to say, they misjudged the eventual relative popularity of the two franchises '''badly''', and quietly shifted their focus after ''Brute Force'''s release to promote more ''Halo'' games.
* SoOkayItsAverage: ''Brute Force'' was regarded as not a particularly bad game, but not an especially ground-breaking one either.
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** The first page has Clown terrorists with guns breaking into a secret lab where a scientist is attaching cyber-armor to a gorilla.
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** ROBO-BEAR VS. CYBER-GORILLA.

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Linkara (of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Atop The Fourth Wall]]) speculates that since it was revealed that one of Agent Coulson's first assignments in the nineties was working with Brute Force (as revealed in the Deadpool Bi-Annual comic), he may have been one of the FBI agents assigned to Doctor Pierce's case back in the original mini-series.
** He also states that since we are not told what happens to Pierce in the Deadpool comic, and it's been something along the lines of two decades since the miniseries, it's possible that Pierce had something happen to him in one of the many horrible things that happens to the Marvel Universe (Skrull invasions, World War Hulk, and the Dire Wraith invasion, just to name a ''very'' abridged list) made him grow disillusioned with the goals of the team, leading to them splitting off from him.



* FanWank: Linkara (of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Atop The Fourth Wall]]) speculates that since it was revealed that one of Agent Coulson's first assignments in the nineties was working with Brute Force (as revealed in the Deadpool Bi-Annual comic), he may have been one of the FBI agents assigned to Doctor Pierce's case back in the original mini-series.
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* FanWank: Linkara (of [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Atop The Fourth Wall]]) speculates that since it was revealed that one of Agent Coulson's first assignments in the nineties was working with Brute Force (as revealed in the Deadpool Bi-Annual comic), he may have been one of the FBI agents assigned to Doctor Pierce's case back in the original mini-series.
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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? THey made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later.

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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? THey They made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later.
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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]

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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]Last]]: Only lasted four issues... OR DID IT? THey made a triumphant return in Deadpool Bi-Annual #1, twenty-five years later.
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* NarmCharm: It tries to be serious, but its premise is so ridiculous and its execution so equally ludicrous that it would be painful to read if it wasn't also so damned entertaning for those same reasons. It's so 80s that it hurts and emits wafts of pure cheese from every orifice, but no one cares because we're all along for the ride.
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* [[TooGoodToLast Too Delightfully Insane To Last]]
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* CrazyAwesome: The cover for the first issue alone showcases an [[IncrediblyLamePun armed]] and angry cyborg dolphin firing a laser gun. [[RuleOfCool That should tell you what kind of comic you're in for.]]

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* SoBadItsGood: The whole film can be this for some.
* BadBadActing: all over the place

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* SoBadItsGood: The whole film can be this for some.
* BadBadActing: all over the place
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* SoBadItsGood: The patron saint, according to [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara.]]

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* SoBadItsGood: The patron saint, according to [[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara.]]

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* SoBadItsGood: The patron saint, according to [[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara.]]

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* SoBadItsGood: The patron saint, according to [[AtopTheFourthWall [[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara.]]

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