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[[WMG: The Adjustment Bureau was sent from the future.]]
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[[WMG: The Adjustment Bureau was sent from the future.future by humans, not god.]]
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The Bureau represents parents, and Norris is a child who is DatingWhatDaddyHates. They try to stop him, but in the end they accept he is an adult now and allow him to make his own choices.
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The Bureau represents parents, and Norris is a child who is DatingWhatDaddyHates. They try to stop him, but in the end they accept he is an adult now and allow him to make his own choices.choices.
[[WMG: The Adjustment Bureau was sent from the future.]]
The Bureau is limited in some very human ways, and while they have a lot of power and information, they're still blindsided by random chance.
They have paygrades, they use sci-fi gadgets to do a lot of their work, they are limited by their available manpower, and they can't fix everything if humanity ruins themselves too badly.
This is because they're an organization sent by the future with orders to ensure humanity's survival. Their end goal is to get humanity to survive without intervention, but in the meantime, they step in to prevent war and disaster and to uplift human technology.
[[WMG: The Adjustment Bureau was sent from the future.]]
The Bureau is limited in some very human ways, and while they have a lot of power and information, they're still blindsided by random chance.
They have paygrades, they use sci-fi gadgets to do a lot of their work, they are limited by their available manpower, and they can't fix everything if humanity ruins themselves too badly.
This is because they're an organization sent by the future with orders to ensure humanity's survival. Their end goal is to get humanity to survive without intervention, but in the meantime, they step in to prevent war and disaster and to uplift human technology.
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Now, hear me out. This is based on the idea of Satan being an agent of God (in movie terms, "The Chairman).
Satan, according to many old-world sources both biblical and extra-biblical, is an angel who went against God's plan and possibly gave "secret knowledge" to mortals. Similarly, Harry Mitchell goes against the Chairman's plan and allows a human to have access to the secret world of the Adjusters.
Satan, according to many old-world sources both biblical and extra-biblical, is an angel who went against God's plan and possibly gave "secret knowledge" to mortals. Similarly, Harry Mitchell goes against the Chairman's plan and allows a human to have access to the secret world of the Adjusters.
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Now, hear me out. This is based on the idea of Satan being an agent of God (in movie terms, "The Chairman).
Chairman). Satan, according to many old-world sources both biblical and extra-biblical, is an angel who went against God's plan and possibly gave "secret knowledge" to mortals. Similarly, Harry Mitchell goes against the Chairman's plan and allows a human to have access to the secret world of the Adjusters.
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* I'm not sure what comparison you're making. The Authority in ''His Dark Materials'' does exist, he's just senile now but used to issue orders in person, and was lying about creating the other angels.
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* I'm not sure what comparison you're making. The Authority in ''His Dark Materials'' does exist, he's just senile now but used to issue orders in person, and was lying about creating the other angels.
angels, but he did use to issue orders in person, and the only one issuing them in his place is Metatron, not a rebel angel.
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* I'm not sure what comparison you're making. The Authority in ''His Dark Materials'' does exist, he's just senile now but used to issue orders in person, and was lying about creating the other angels.
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Instead, the Bureau workers, up to and including the Chairman, are SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who believe that they are helping to guide humanity toward a better and more enlightened state. Nothing about them is supernatural but their existence and meddling (possibly more direct in the past than depicted in the film) has inspired religious mythology, hence the apparent parallels.
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Instead, the Bureau workers, up to and including the Chairman, are SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who believe that they are helping to guide humanity toward a better and more enlightened state. Nothing about them is supernatural but their existence and meddling (possibly more direct in the past than depicted in the film) has inspired religious mythology, hence the apparent parallels.parallels.
[[WMG: The film is about growing up, not religion]]
The Bureau represents parents, and Norris is a child who is DatingWhatDaddyHates. They try to stop him, but in the end they accept he is an adult now and allow him to make his own choices.
[[WMG: The film is about growing up, not religion]]
The Bureau represents parents, and Norris is a child who is DatingWhatDaddyHates. They try to stop him, but in the end they accept he is an adult now and allow him to make his own choices.
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[[WMG:The film is very loosely inspired by Harrison Bergeron.]]
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[[WMG:The film is very loosely inspired by Harrison Bergeron.]]]]
[[WMG:The Bureau is not divine and the chairman is not God]]
Instead, the Bureau workers, up to and including the Chairman, are SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who believe that they are helping to guide humanity toward a better and more enlightened state. Nothing about them is supernatural but their existence and meddling (possibly more direct in the past than depicted in the film) has inspired religious mythology, hence the apparent parallels.
[[WMG:The Bureau is not divine and the chairman is not God]]
Instead, the Bureau workers, up to and including the Chairman, are SufficientlyAdvancedAliens who believe that they are helping to guide humanity toward a better and more enlightened state. Nothing about them is supernatural but their existence and meddling (possibly more direct in the past than depicted in the film) has inspired religious mythology, hence the apparent parallels.
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Remember at the end, after climbing higher and higher looking for the Chairman, David and Elise finally make it to the roof of the building and find no one there. Agent Harry then comes upstairs, ostensibly with orders from the Chairman giving David and Elise a reprieve. Harry, the sympathetic rebellious "angel", rather than confirming the Chairman's non-existence or allowing anyone to alter the couple's minds, fabricates an order from the Chairman that lets them go. Compare to Philip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
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Remember at the end, after climbing higher and higher looking for the Chairman, David and Elise finally make it to the roof of the building and find no one there. Agent Harry then comes upstairs, ostensibly with orders from the Chairman giving David and Elise a reprieve. Harry, the sympathetic rebellious "angel", rather than confirming the Chairman's non-existence or allowing anyone to alter the couple's minds, fabricates an order from the Chairman that lets them go. Compare to Philip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.''Literature/HisDarkMaterials''.
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* Or, when he got the orders to "meet the Chairman immediately" near the end, he just got informed He doesn't exist. By a Shadow Cabinet of "angels" perhaps?
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* Or, when he got the orders to "meet the Chairman immediately" near the end, he just got informed He doesn't exist. (Plus his new instructions.) By a Shadow Cabinet of "angels" perhaps?
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* Or, when he got the orders to "meet the Chairman immediately" near the end, he just got informed He doesn't exist. By a ShadowCabinet of "angels" perhaps?
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* Or, when he got the orders to "meet the Chairman immediately" near the end, he just got informed He doesn't exist. By a ShadowCabinet Shadow Cabinet of "angels" perhaps?
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* Or, when he got the orders to "meet the Chairman immediately" near the end, he just got informed He doesn't exist. By a ShadowCabinet of "angels" perhaps?
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* Alternatively, Harry ''is'' the Chairman.
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* Alternatively, Harry ''is'' the Chairman.Chairman.
[[WMG: Harry Mitchell is Satan.]]
Now, hear me out. This is based on the idea of Satan being an agent of God (in movie terms, "The Chairman).
Satan, according to many old-world sources both biblical and extra-biblical, is an angel who went against God's plan and possibly gave "secret knowledge" to mortals. Similarly, Harry Mitchell goes against the Chairman's plan and allows a human to have access to the secret world of the Adjusters.
This also requires remembering the idea that Satan has a clearly-defined role in the cosmological hierarchy and is not necessarily an evil being (the whole painting Satan/Lucifer/what-have-you as an evil being is a fairly modern, particularly against the scope of history, and western phenomenon).
[[WMG: Harry Mitchell is Satan.]]
Now, hear me out. This is based on the idea of Satan being an agent of God (in movie terms, "The Chairman).
Satan, according to many old-world sources both biblical and extra-biblical, is an angel who went against God's plan and possibly gave "secret knowledge" to mortals. Similarly, Harry Mitchell goes against the Chairman's plan and allows a human to have access to the secret world of the Adjusters.
This also requires remembering the idea that Satan has a clearly-defined role in the cosmological hierarchy and is not necessarily an evil being (the whole painting Satan/Lucifer/what-have-you as an evil being is a fairly modern, particularly against the scope of history, and western phenomenon).
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-Alternatively, Harry ''is'' the Chairman.
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*Alternatively, Harry ''is'' the Chairman.
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Remember at the end, after climbing higher and higher looking for the Chairman, David and Elise finally make it to the roof of the building and find no one there. Agent Harry then comes upstairs, ostensibly with orders from the Chairman giving David and Elise a reprieve. Harry, the sympathetic rebellious "angel", rather than confirming the Chairman's non-existence or allowing anyone to alter the couple's minds, fabricates an order from the Chairman that lets them go. Compare to Philip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
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Remember at the end, after climbing higher and higher looking for the Chairman, David and Elise finally make it to the roof of the building and find no one there. Agent Harry then comes upstairs, ostensibly with orders from the Chairman giving David and Elise a reprieve. Harry, the sympathetic rebellious "angel", rather than confirming the Chairman's non-existence or allowing anyone to alter the couple's minds, fabricates an order from the Chairman that lets them go. Compare to Philip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.Materials]]''.
-Alternatively, Harry ''is'' the Chairman.
-Alternatively, Harry ''is'' the Chairman.
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[[WMG: There is no Chairman. The Bureau runs itself.]]
This can be a particularly interesting interpretation given the religious symbolism of the whole movie. Remember at the end, David and Elise run up to the roof of the building and find no one there. Harry then comes upstairs with orders from "the Chairman" saying that David and Elise are free to live their life. Rather than the Bureau having to openly admit that there is no Chairman or outright killing David, the Agents simply fudge an order from the Chairman. Compare to the way things worked out in Phiip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
This can be a particularly interesting interpretation given the religious symbolism of the whole movie. Remember at the end, David and Elise run up to the roof of the building and find no one there. Harry then comes upstairs with orders from "the Chairman" saying that David and Elise are free to live their life. Rather than the Bureau having to openly admit that there is no Chairman or outright killing David, the Agents simply fudge an order from the Chairman. Compare to the way things worked out in Phiip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
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[[WMG: There is no Chairman. The Chairman and the Bureau runs itself.itself. Those deus ex machina orders from the Chairman at the end were actually fabricated by Agent Harry Mitchell.]]
This can be a particularly interesting interpretation given the religious symbolism of the whole movie. Remember at the end, after climbing higher and higher looking for the Chairman, David and Elise run up finally make it to the roof of the building and find no one there. Agent Harry then comes upstairs upstairs, ostensibly with orders from "the Chairman" saying that the Chairman giving David and Elise are free to live their life. Rather a reprieve. Harry, the sympathetic rebellious "angel", rather than confirming the Bureau having Chairman's non-existence or allowing anyone to openly admit that there is no Chairman or outright killing David, alter the Agents simply fudge couple's minds, fabricates an order from the Chairman. Chairman that lets them go. Compare to the way things worked out in Phiip Philip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
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[[WMG: There is no Chairman. The Bureau runs itself.]]
This can be a particularly interesting interpretation given the religious symbolism of the whole movie. Remember at the end, David and Elise run up to the roof of the building and find no one there. Harry then comes upstairs with orders from "the Chairman" saying that David and Elise are free to live their life. Rather than the Bureau having to openly admit that there is no Chairman or outright killing David, the Agents simply fudge an order from the Chairman. Compare to the way things worked out in Phiip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
This can be a particularly interesting interpretation given the religious symbolism of the whole movie. Remember at the end, David and Elise run up to the roof of the building and find no one there. Harry then comes upstairs with orders from "the Chairman" saying that David and Elise are free to live their life. Rather than the Bureau having to openly admit that there is no Chairman or outright killing David, the Agents simply fudge an order from the Chairman. Compare to the way things worked out in Phiip Pullman's ''[[HisDarkMaterials His Dark Materials]]''.
