History WMG / JakAndDaxter

* Yellow Eco = The source of Jak's VeryHighVelocityRounds when he shoots things while using flash freeze. Alternately, Jak might have the ability to shoot fireballs or something similar to the original yellow eco powers(he did it in the final battle of the first game, after all), but never had any need to discover/use it because the [[CoolGun morph gun]] already serves that purpose.

* It might sound plausible that Metal Kor actually ''intended'' to have Jak's Rider enter the rift, assuming that he could've easily destroyed it with a single beam attack right there otherwise. Though it would also seem that Kor wasn't aware of two particular things when he approached Jak in the old man form: that Baron Praxis was plotting to double-cross him (a news delivered by Jak, which might otherwise be inconsequential if not for the Precursor Stone), and that the kid was actually Jak in ''his'' past (cue his surprise when the crocodog responded affectionately to Jak while it wasn't taking nicely to anyone else but the kid). Which in turn implies that Kor might have extensive knowledge of previous time loops, whenever Jak ended up ''anywhere but'' around the kid, and each time the Precursor Stone remained outside his reach (since there was no one to pass the Tomb of Mar tests). Said time loops probably might've been counted by ''myriads'', until by ''pure chance'' an opportunity to extract the Precursor Stone presented itself. Unfortunately for Kor, the Precursors themselves (and probably Onin through channeled visions) did also retain their knowledge of those very time loops, adjusting Jak's fate just so for him to have a chance to defeat the Hora-Quan leader once and for all (which he used well in the end).

* It might sound plausible that Metal Kor actually ''intended'' to have Jak's Rider enter the rift, assuming that he could've easily destroyed it with a single beam attack right there otherwise. Though it would also seem that Kor wasn't aware of two particular things when he approached Jak in the old man form: that Baron Praxis was plotting to double-cross him (a news delivered by Jak, which might otherwise be inconsequential if not for the Precursor Stone), and that the kid was actually Jak in the past (cue his surprise when the crocodog responded affectionately to Jak while it wasn't taking nicely to anyone else but the kid). Which in turn implies that Kor might have extensive knowledge of previous time loops, whenever Jak ended up ''anywhere but'' around the kid, and each time the Precursor Stone remained outside his reach (since there was no one to pass the Tomb of Mar tests). Said time loops probably might've been counted by ''myriads'', until by ''pure chance'' an opportunity to extract the Precursor Stone presented itself. Unfortunately for Kor, the Precursors themselves (and probably Onin through channeled visions) did also retain their knowledge of those very time loops, adjusting Jak's fate just so for him to have a chance to defeat the Hora-Quan leader once and for all (which he used well in the end).

* It might sound plausible that Metal Kor actually ''intended'' to have Jak's Rider enter the rift, assuming that he could've easily destroyed it with a single beam attack right there otherwise. Though it would also seem that Kor wasn't aware of two particular things when he approached Jak in the old man form: that Baron Praxis was plotting to double-cross him (a news delivered by Jak, which might otherwise be inconsequential if not for the Precursor Stone), and that the kid was actually Jak in the past (cue his surprise when the crocodog responded affectionately to Jak while it wasn't taking nicely to anyone else but the kid). Which in turn implies that Kor might have extensive knowledge of previous time loops, whenever Jak ended up ''anywhere but'' around the kid, and each time the Precursor Stone remained outside his reach (since there was no one to pass the Tomb of Mar tests). Said time loops probably might've been counted by ''myriads'', until by ''pure chance'' an opportunity to extract the Precursor Stone presented itself. Unfortunately for Kor, the Precursors themselves (and probably Onin) did also retain their knowledge of those very time loops, adjusting Jak's fate just so for him to have a chance to defeat the Hora-Quan leader once and for all (which he used well in the end).

* It might sound plausible that Metal Kor actually ''intended'' to have Jak's Rider enter the rift, assuming that he could've easily destroyed it with a single beam attack right there otherwise. Though it would also seem that Kor wasn't aware of two particular things when he approached Jak in the old man form: that Baron Praxis was plotting to double-cross him (a news delivered by Jak, which might otherwise be inconsequential if not for the Precursor Stone), and that the kid was actually Jak in the past (cue his surprise when the crocodog responded affectionately to Jak while it wasn't taking nicely to anyone else but the kid). Which in turn implies that Kor might have extensive knowledge of previous time loops, whenever Jak ended up ''anywhere but'' around the kid, and each time the Precursor Stone remained outside his reach (since there was no one to pass the Tomb of Mar tests). Said time loops probably might've been counted by ''myriads'', until by ''pure chance'' an opportunity to extract the Precursor Stone presented itself. Unfortunately for Kor, the Precursors themselves did also retain their knowledge of those very time loops, adjusting Jak's fate just so for him to have a chance to defeat the Hora-Quan leader once and for all (which he used well in the end).

*** It is still possible that the actual length of exposure matters. In TLF, Daxter spends mere minutes with his form being affected by the Dark Eco, while Dark Makers from Jak 3 would have been immersed in it for ''eons'', certainly enough to change them beyond any recognition given the energy's unstable nature. And let's not forget that even a momentary exposure to the Dark Eco proved to be enough to transform Dax into an ottsel in the first place.

Almost every stable time loop has to start somewhere, otherwise it would be a never-ending paradox. The very first iteration of the loop was most certainly a BadFuture where Haven was completely destroyed by the Metal Heads, and the Shadow had to hurriedly use the Rift-Gate to escape with the Kid to Sandover Village, thus sparing themselves from being exterminated. There was no future Jak who would save Haven City in this timeline because he didn't exist yet - at least, in the form we see him. Young Samos arrives in Sandover Village and starts a new life by raising Jak (with both daxter and Keira) so they can time travel into the future and defeat Metal Kor. As a result, the original BadFuture which happened where everyone is killed by the Metal Heads is completely gone, with a stable time loop taking it's place where Jak arrives in Haven City to lead the Underground and defeat Kor, sending the Kid back in time afterwards. This is made more damning with the fact that old Samos never outright tells Jak that the Kid is really a younger version of him, as he is unaware (due to time-travel amnesia) or that he doesn't remember his real past.

This would possibly explain his transition from how he was in 2 to suddenly wanting to destroy the world in 3 despite in the second game while he did make all the wrong decisions he did want to protect the city and kill all the Metal Heads.

Makes sense given that in-universe the Metal Heads are at war with Haven City- the Aeropans were also fighting that same war, and thus collaborated with Haven on the Dark Warrior Program. Trouble is, the program worked for Skyheed while it didn't for Haven, leading the Aeropans to become more militaristic and power hungry.

Remember when Jak and Dax first met Tym? The first thing Tym points out about Jak is that he's been tainted with dark eco. He could sense the eco inside of others. Maybe Jak can do the same. This would also explain why Jak stopped Daxter everytime he tried to bring his new powers up. If Daxter mentioned his powers in front of Skyheed they may have tried to experiment on Daxter. Sure, Jak didn't know that at the time, but what he did know was that Skyheed had an interest in him because of his powers. He protected Dax by keeping him out of Skyheed's interests. Then there was the time at the hangar when Jak found that kick ass jet. Jak was probably concerned about any survailance that was in the hangar and anyone who might report Dax's condition to Skyheed. This also explains how Jak knows exactly where to be when Daxter changes back and tumbles out of the elevators he comes back out of at the end of the Dark Daxter sequences. When Dax finally changes in front of him Jak was unsuprised because he knew from the get go and only offered his support with that "Chew before you swallow" line because he knew what Daxter was going through.