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--> "You know who the greater evil is in this room."\\
'''Cyndi'''

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--> "You ->''"You know who the greater evil is in this room."\\
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-->--'''Cyndi'''
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* IWantMyBelovedToBeHappy: Charlotte's parting words to Duane indicate she accepts they won't end up together, but wants him to find love anyway.
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--> You know who the greater evil is in this room.

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--> You "You know who the greater evil is in this room.
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'''Cyndi'''
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* CreatorBreakdown: When a reader asked Campbell whether it had distressed him to get inside Cyndi's mind and think like a person with antisocial behaviour patterns, he stated that it was disturbing to get into both her ''and'' Charlotte's heads and that it made him "a neurotic mess" at times. He also revealed that he based the toolshed on the one in his parents' yard, and as a result developed a phobia of it.
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* SeeYouInHell: Discussed.
--> '''Charlotte:''' I am damned [...] But the damned can still serve a greater good [...] [W]hen my skin is being [[ColdBloodedTorture ripped by burning acid fishhooks]] [...] I will at least know that I prevented ''some'' evil with my life.\\
'''Cyndi:''' Listen to yourself. You'll "see me in Hell?" Who are you, the [[Literature/TheWonderfulWizardOfOz Wicked Witch of the West]]? You don't believe what you're saying. You ''can't!''\\
'''Charlotte:''' I don't think I'll see you there. I don't think you get to pick your roommate. But you'll be there. And that will be something.
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* SuicideDare: An indirect example on Cyndi's part, using ReversePsychology (see above).

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* CatchPhrase: "Hee," Cyndi's customary tiny giggle over hurting someone, or the prospect of doing so.


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* SignatureLaugh: "Hee," Cyndi's customary tiny giggle over hurting someone, or the prospect of doing so.
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* CatchPhrase: "Hee," Cyndi's customary tiny giggle over hurting someone, or the prospect of doing so.


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* {{Sadist}}: Cyndi. She giggles with pleasure over Charlotte's attempted suicide.
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--> '''Cyndi:''' What would Judas do?\\
'''Charlotte:''' He hung himself.\\
'''Cyndi:''' ...Oh. Well, that's not an option for you. I mean, if you were gonna do that, you already would have. [[HintDropping The knife is right there.]] You're just gonna have to live with what you've done.
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Put On A Bus To Hell — With Fans having ended, purportedly for good this time, sans Cyndi making an appearance, I\'ve removed my earlier spec


* PutOnABusToHell: The strip in which her parents commit her is Cyndi's final appearance in ''Penny and Aggie''. [[WordOfGod Campbell]] has said, however, that it won't necessarily be her last appearance ''anywhere'', implying that he might use a version of her in ''{{Fans}}'', where every ''Penny and Aggie'' character has an AlternateSelf counterpart.

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* PutOnABusToHell: The strip in which her parents commit her is Cyndi's final appearance in ''Penny and Aggie''. [[WordOfGod Campbell]] has said, however, that it won't necessarily be her last appearance ''anywhere'', implying that he might use a version of her in ''{{Fans}}'', where every ''Penny and Aggie'' character has an AlternateSelf counterpart.another work.
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Cyndi, having gone through other strategies to save herself, next resorts to honesty. She confesses that she's always felt unable to relate to other human beings, considering them all stupid. However, she says, there was one person (Sara) whom she did recognize as being like her inside, and if allowed to live, she may be able to "discover love." So she tells Charlotte to turn herself in and "find a way to atone." In tears, Charlotte claims she can't, that she's tried to good but always ends up doing wrong again. Cyndi reinforces this idea by suggesting she try for Duane's sake while implying that this act too was for him, but maybe next time she'll do better. As Charlotte falls deeper into despair, Cyndi asks, "What would Judas do?" At the answer, "He hung himself," Cyndi again uses reverse psychology, telling Charlotte that suicide's not an option for her, or she'd have done so already, with the knife in her hand. "You'll just have to live with what you've done."

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Cyndi, having gone through other strategies to save herself, next resorts to honesty. She confesses that she's always felt unable to relate to other human beings, considering them all stupid. However, she says, there was one person (Sara) whom she did recognize as being like her inside, and if allowed to live, she may be able to "discover love." So she tells Charlotte to turn herself in and "find a way to atone." In tears, Charlotte claims she can't, that she's tried to do good but always ends up doing wrong again. Cyndi reinforces this idea by suggesting she try for Duane's sake while implying that this act too was for him, but maybe next time she'll do better. As Charlotte falls deeper into despair, Cyndi asks, "What would Judas do?" At the answer, "He hung himself," Cyndi again uses reverse psychology, telling Charlotte that suicide's not an option for her, or she'd have done so already, with the knife in her hand. "You'll just have to live with what you've done."
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* IdentityConcealmentDisposal: [[Recap/PennyAndAggieMissingPersonTheBellevilleInterviews The Belleville Interviews]] had used various methods to conceal Agent [=McBell=]'s full face, before finally showing it in the last strip of that chapter. Both of his appearances in the present chapter show his full, unobscured face as well.
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* CerebusSyndrome: Some readers felt the comic achieved this in the present chapter. Others place it earlier, in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieThePopsicleWarWhispersAndSilence Whispers and Silence]], or even in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieVertigo Vertigo]]. In any case, the fandom consensus was that ''Penny and Aggie'' had come a long way from its origin as a light-hearted [[GagPerDayWebcomics gag-per-day]] comic about two teenage girls locked in, as Campbell has put it, a perpetual ''TomAndJerry'' rivalry.

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* CerebusSyndrome: Some readers felt the comic achieved this in the present chapter. Others place it earlier, in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieThePopsicleWarWhispersAndSilence Whispers and Silence]], or even in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieVertigo Vertigo]]. In any case, the fandom consensus was that ''Penny and Aggie'' had come a long way from its origin as a light-hearted [[GagPerDayWebcomics gag-per-day]] comic about two teenage girls locked in, as Campbell has put it, a perpetual ''TomAndJerry'' ''WesternAnimation/TomAndJerry'' rivalry.
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* AdultsAreUseless - [[AvertedTrope Averted]]. Agent Carter arrives on the scene in enough time to save Charlotte's life. As well, Cyndi's parents, even the formerly indulgent, in-denial Carl, commit her after they read her journal.
* AloneWithThePsycho - Played with, in that both girls are disturbed in their own way.

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* AdultsAreUseless - AdultsAreUseless: [[AvertedTrope Averted]]. Agent Carter arrives on the scene in enough time to save Charlotte's life. As well, Cyndi's parents, even the formerly indulgent, in-denial Carl, commit her after they read her journal.
* AloneWithThePsycho - AloneWithThePsycho: Played with, in that both girls are disturbed in their own way.



* CallBack - Several. The most significant parallels are, fittingly, to [[Recap/PennyAndAggieThePopsicleWarSuicideRun Suicide Run]]:

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* CallBack - CallBack: Several. The most significant parallels are, fittingly, to [[Recap/PennyAndAggieThePopsicleWarSuicideRun Suicide Run]]:



* CerebusSyndrome - Some readers felt the comic achieved this in the present chapter. Others place it earlier, in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieThePopsicleWarWhispersAndSilence Whispers and Silence]], or even in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieVertigo Vertigo]]. In any case, the fandom consensus was that ''Penny and Aggie'' had come a long way from its origin as a light-hearted [[GagPerDayWebcomics gag-per-day]] comic about two teenage girls locked in, as Campbell has put it, a perpetual ''TomAndJerry'' rivalry.
* ClingyJealousGirl - [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]]. Cyndi views Daphne this way.
* CowboyCop - Carter disobeys [=McBell's=] order not to trespass on the Simms's property unless he sees something suspicious from the front of the house where he's supposed to be. His disobedience saves Charlotte's life.
* CreatorBreakdown - When a reader asked Campbell whether it had distressed him to get inside Cyndi's mind and think like a person with antisocial behaviour patterns, he stated that it was disturbing to get into both her ''and'' Charlotte's heads and that it made him "a neurotic mess" at times. He also revealed that he based the toolshed on the one in his parents' yard, and as a result developed a phobia of it.
* DeadlyEuphemism - In her journal, Cyndi uses the expression "push people into the pool" as a euphemism for "manipulate people into committing suicide."
* DrivenToSuicide - Charlotte, though she survives and rediscovers her will to live.
* EarnYourHappyEnding - Charlotte finally finds peace, but at the cost of nearly losing her life and of a prison sentence.
* EvilCounterpart - Cyndi to Penny, and Charlotte to Aggie. In addition to the parallels listed above under CallBack, note the similar use of lettering and iconography in the comic's logo and in the chapter title.
* ForTheEvulz - Yes, Cyndi was trying to save her own life, but the giggle she lets out when Charlotte slits her own throat, and her taunting that she'll send Duane into death after her as Charlotte bleeds out, indicate she's ''enjoying'' having manipulated Charlotte into attempted suicide.

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* CerebusSyndrome - CerebusSyndrome: Some readers felt the comic achieved this in the present chapter. Others place it earlier, in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieThePopsicleWarWhispersAndSilence Whispers and Silence]], or even in [[Recap/PennyAndAggieVertigo Vertigo]]. In any case, the fandom consensus was that ''Penny and Aggie'' had come a long way from its origin as a light-hearted [[GagPerDayWebcomics gag-per-day]] comic about two teenage girls locked in, as Campbell has put it, a perpetual ''TomAndJerry'' rivalry.
* ClingyJealousGirl - ClingyJealousGirl: [[DiscussedTrope Discussed]]. Cyndi views Daphne this way.
* CowboyCop - CowboyCop: Carter disobeys [=McBell's=] order not to trespass on the Simms's property unless he sees something suspicious from the front of the house where he's supposed to be. His disobedience saves Charlotte's life.
* CreatorBreakdown - CreatorBreakdown: When a reader asked Campbell whether it had distressed him to get inside Cyndi's mind and think like a person with antisocial behaviour patterns, he stated that it was disturbing to get into both her ''and'' Charlotte's heads and that it made him "a neurotic mess" at times. He also revealed that he based the toolshed on the one in his parents' yard, and as a result developed a phobia of it.
* DeadlyEuphemism - DeadlyEuphemism: In her journal, Cyndi uses the expression "push people into the pool" as a euphemism for "manipulate people into committing suicide."
* DrivenToSuicide - DrivenToSuicide: Charlotte, though she survives and rediscovers her will to live.
* EarnYourHappyEnding - EarnYourHappyEnding: Charlotte finally finds peace, but at the cost of nearly losing her life and of a prison sentence.
* EvilCounterpart - EvilCounterpart: Cyndi to Penny, and Charlotte to Aggie. In addition to the parallels listed above under CallBack, note the similar use of lettering and iconography in the comic's logo and in the chapter title.
* ForTheEvulz - ForTheEvulz: Yes, Cyndi was trying to save her own life, but the giggle she lets out when Charlotte slits her own throat, and her taunting that she'll send Duane into death after her as Charlotte bleeds out, indicate she's ''enjoying'' having manipulated Charlotte into attempted suicide.



* LastSecondWordSwap - Cyndi confesses that for years she worried she would "die a--", then stops and says "die without ever having a boyfriend" instead. Given that her words appear in conjuction with a CallBack to [[http://www.pennyandaggie.com/index.php?p=371 this strip]], it seems Cyndi had been about to say "die a virgin" but, fearing that might inflame Charlotte's [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist]] sensibilities, censored herself.

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* LastSecondWordSwap - LastSecondWordSwap: Cyndi confesses that for years she worried she would "die a--", then stops and says "die without ever having a boyfriend" instead. Given that her words appear in conjuction with a CallBack to [[http://www.pennyandaggie.com/index.php?p=371 this strip]], it seems Cyndi had been about to say "die a virgin" but, fearing that might inflame Charlotte's [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist]] sensibilities, censored herself.



* OutOfGenreExperience - This chapter goes beyond TeenDrama and into the PsychologicalThriller genre.
* PityTheKidnapper - Considering that Charlotte kidnapped Cyndi as a twisted expression of her own self-hatred and hatred for her abusive mother, she's pitiful enough. When Cyndi talks her into slitting her own throat, she's all the more so.

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* OutOfGenreExperience - OutOfGenreExperience: This chapter goes beyond TeenDrama and into the PsychologicalThriller genre.
* PityTheKidnapper - PityTheKidnapper: Considering that Charlotte kidnapped Cyndi as a twisted expression of her own self-hatred and hatred for her abusive mother, she's pitiful enough. When Cyndi talks her into slitting her own throat, she's all the more so.



* PutOnABusToHell - The strip in which her parents commit her is Cyndi's final appearance in ''Penny and Aggie''. [[WordOfGod Campbell]] has said, however, that it won't necessarily be her last appearance ''anywhere'', implying that he might use a version of her in ''{{Fans}}'', where every ''Penny and Aggie'' character has an AlternateSelf counterpart.
* {{Revenge}} - Although Cyndi doesn't explicitly mention this as the motive, the statement in her journal that she's eager to make Daphne her next victim, plus the entry's mid-November date, around the time of the SchoolPlay during which Sara chose Daphne over Cyndi, suggest that her choice of Daphne has a more personal motivation than her usual ForTheEvulz one.

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* PutOnABusToHell - PutOnABusToHell: The strip in which her parents commit her is Cyndi's final appearance in ''Penny and Aggie''. [[WordOfGod Campbell]] has said, however, that it won't necessarily be her last appearance ''anywhere'', implying that he might use a version of her in ''{{Fans}}'', where every ''Penny and Aggie'' character has an AlternateSelf counterpart.
* {{Revenge}} - {{Revenge}}: Although Cyndi doesn't explicitly mention this as the motive, the statement in her journal that she's eager to make Daphne her next victim, plus the entry's mid-November date, around the time of the SchoolPlay during which Sara chose Daphne over Cyndi, suggest that her choice of Daphne has a more personal motivation than her usual ForTheEvulz one.



* ShutUpHannibal - [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. Charlotte attempts this several times, either with words or with torture, in response to Cyndi's stratagems. It doesn't work.

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* ShutUpHannibal - ShutUpHannibal: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted]]. Charlotte attempts this several times, either with words or with torture, in response to Cyndi's stratagems. It doesn't work.



* WithFriendsLikeThese - While previous arcs had established Cyndi's and Meg's friendship as shallow at best and marked by pettiness at worst, Meg would no doubt be shocked to learn that Cyndi intended to push her into suicide, and that as mere ''practice'' for doing so with Daphne.

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* WithFriendsLikeThese - WithFriendsLikeThese: While previous arcs had established Cyndi's and Meg's friendship as shallow at best and marked by pettiness at worst, Meg would no doubt be shocked to learn that Cyndi intended to push her into suicide, and that as mere ''practice'' for doing so with Daphne.
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