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''WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles'' was the first Pixar film to earn a PG rating, and is considerably dark for a Pixar movie, as this page can tell you.

* The film takes no liberties in [[{{Deconstruction}} showcasing the downsides of a world filled with supers;]] from the risk of heroes [[TheBadGuyWins failing to save the day,]] to [[UngratefulBastard being persecuted and sued by the same people you vow to protect,]] and most frighteningly, the worries that [[WouldHurtAChild villains will show no restraints against killing children if they pose a threat in any capacity]]. All of this leads to the supers becoming illegal, and the overall setting is very similar to ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.
* After he believes his family has been killed, Mr. Incredible: "[[DespairEventHorizon Why are you here? How can you possibly bring me lower? What more can you take away from me?]]" While Mr. Incredible is saying this, he has Mirage in a NeckLift, is holding her a good three-four feet off of the ground and her face clearly shows pain and quickly loses color to the point of being almost white from lack of oxygen.
** When she tells him "There isn't much time", the way he immediately chokelifts her and goes [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSYJvAxzjGM "No. There isn't. In fact... there's no time at all."]] in a [[TranquilFury disturbingly chilling tone]] is scary as hell.
** In their previous scene together, he came dangerously close to ''crushing her to death'' out of [[RageBreakingPoint sheer, animalistic fury]].
** Really, the scene itself is pretty terrifying, if only for Mr. Incredible's [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness rage,]] and Syndrome's ''complete indifference'' to Mirage's plight.
--->'''Mr. Incredible''': Release me! '''''NOW!'''''\\
'''Syndrome''': ''(scoffs)'' Or what?\\
'''Mr. Incredible:''' ''I'll crush her.''\\
'''Syndrome:''' Ooo, that sounds a little ''dark'' for you... [[TheSociopath ah, go ahead.]]\\
'''Mr. Incredible:''' It will be easy... like breaking a ''toothpick.''\\
'''Syndrome:''' [[YouWouldntShootMe ...show me.]]
** On top of ''that'', there's the brief yet intense few seconds where in that moment, there was a chance he could've actually killed her. Thankfully, he doesn't but it's still an especially unsettling moment.
*** Mr. Incredible releasing Mirage the first time comes off as a relief until you get to the part where he tries again after being released. He didn't kill her because he believed that ThouShaltNotKill - he just couldn't kill her because of the sheer ''exhaustion'' torture left him with.
* The various incarnations of the Omnidroid are enormous black robots that relentlessly hunt and kill any super who gets too close. They are MadeOfIron, [[CombatPragmatist Combat Pragmatists]], have an AdaptiveAbility and could not be more devoted to slaying their targets if they tried. And that's not even getting into the fact that the last one ''can'' disobey its creator as it causes as much carnage as it pleases.
* The list of supers killed, lured to their deaths during the Omnidroid testing. Really, would you expect ''anyone'' see Syndrome as a sympathetic character after ''that''? Especially when you consider that these are people Mr. Incredible knew personally; look closely, and you can see most of them ''at the wedding''. The increasing horror on Mr. Incredible's face certainly doesn't help either.
** It's even more chilling if you remember from the start of the movie that all of the supers are simply trying to live as normal folk and during the dinner scene where Mr. Incredible is reading the newspaper, we see that the recent missing person used to be a super known as Gazerbeam. We see him later as a corpse in a cavern.
** Even worse, many of those people must have gone through the ''exact same arc'' as Bob did. Feeling unfulfilled with normal life, the supers were approached by Mirage, given missions, kept coming back after succeeding in them, felt ''good'' about themselves again... [[ShootTheShaggyDog and then they were killed by the ever-evolving droid.]]
*** Some supers manage to beat the Omnidroid, only to be later killed by an upgraded version; however, it was actually the ''majority'' that didn't get such luck.
*** Which may even make it more tragic; Syndrome only revealed the true purpose of the Omnidroid to Mr. Incredible after he defeated the first, meaning that for all those supers who died facing their first, they [[SenselessSacrifice would have perished thinking that they were fighting to protect people, rather than just to be data for Syndrome.]]
** And Bob is quickly relieved to know that Syndrome doesn't know where Helen is. Which then turns to alarmed concern when he finds out that Syndrome ''[[ParanoiaFuel does]]'' [[ParanoiaFuel know where Frozone is]]. Technically, he would've been the one Mirage approached to fight the Omnidroid instead of Bob if she hadn't gotten hold of him as planned, so thankfully, he dodged the bullet.
** The [[https://youtu.be/e_wvb6sh71A?t=58s soundtrack]] that plays during this scene is ''very'' chilling, and really fits the seriousness of the situation.
** The word "genocide" seems a little strong, but is there any other word to explain Syndrome systematically luring in and murdering almost every known American superhero?
** And just think, if Syndrome actually ''had'' killed Bob. Bob never told his family where he was actually going. He would've just disappeared one day and would never be seen again. Bob's remains might have been found, assuming his suit had survived but that's no less horrific. It's also not unreasonable to assume some of the other superheroes had settled down and produced families of their own as well. Same thing, they just disappeared one day and their families never found out what happened to them.
** A commenter on the above video sums it up perfectly:
---> '''Alex Eisenbeis:''' That moment when you find out your former fan has been systematically murdering dozens of superheroes to make a superweapon.
* On the complete opposite side of the spectrum, the deaths of all those Mooks. There were [[WhatMeasureIsAMook many more Mook deaths than Super deaths]], and they could've just been {{Punch Clock Villain}}s.
** That said, there were Mooks playing ''a DrinkingGame'' based what on the Omnidroid did; taking a shot "when they run." So, y'know, whenever the WMD that they dropped into a major metropolitan area scored a OneHitKill, they showed their remorse by ''not'' taking a drink. Practically angels!
** Dash's high-speed chase with the velocipods becomes a lot more chilling when you realize he causes the death of about 8 people, tied with his father for the highest on-screen body count in the film. From a kid who's about 10. But it's horrifying from the other side, too; multiple adult men are [[WouldHurtAChild deliberately and completely knowingly trying to murder a ten-year-old]] for [[DisproportionateRetribution pretty well no other reason than, well, trespassing]].
* No matter how [[KarmicDeath karmic]] and well-deserved it was, Syndrome's death by TurbineBlender is just so horribly gruesome to think about. He gets knocked towards his own VTOL jet by Bob's thrown car, then [[CapeSnag his own cape getting caught in its nearby jet turbine]] does the rest; leading to a harrowing shot of him slowly being dragged toward the whirling blades as [[VillainousBreakdown he frantically claws at the sides in a blind panic]], before suddenly being yanked into them.
** Syndrome goes in '''feet first''', which is just ''so'' much worse than going in head first; because at least in that case, he would have died pretty much immediately. Going in feet first means that Syndrome not only had just enough time to see his own violent death coming while powerless to stop it, but he also would've felt himself going through [[CruelAndUnusualDeath the unimaginable pain of being torn to pieces]].
** Hell, [[EveryoneHasStandards even]] ''[[EveryoneHasStandards Bob himself]]'' [[EveryoneHasStandards cringes as he watches Syndrome get sucked into the turbine]] and then promptly vaporized by the jet exploding in the air.
** This was foreshadowed by the exact same thing happening to Stratogale. While she was waving at a child in the airplane. The special features note that she was a ''teenager.'' Wanna go darker? Just imagine that scene from the perspective of the child, who didn't have the benefit of a DiscretionShot to hide their view the way the movie audience did. [[FridgeHorror Even worse when you take into account the alarm that sounds once she's sucked in, indicating that the plane might've malfunctioned and even crashed...]]
** Think about how poor Edna must have felt after all those cape malfunctions, especially Stratogale's; after all, she designed at least some of those costumes. Makes her rant about the whole thing and her "I never look back" mentality a lot darker...
** Stratogale, while easily the most tragic, isn't the only victim:
*** Thunderhead gets his cape snagged on a live missile intended to blow up a city. If the sudden jerk didn't snap his neck, he was probably blown to smithereens by said missile.
*** Meta-Man got his cape caught on steel framework lifting up an express elevator. That elevator, which may or may not have had civilians inside of it, [[SquashedFlat probably came crashing down on him]]. You can even hear him scream as he gets caught.
*** Dynaguy simply snagged on take-off. Given how quickly he launched, he likely [[NeckSnap snapped his own neck]]. Even more horrific? ''You can hear him make a choking sound when the cape got snagged!''
*** Splashdown is dragged into a vortex. In this instance, rather than jerking him in, it slowly drags him in, seemingly cutting off his air in the process. He even screams as he's being sucked in! If it helps, the special features list him as "missing in action" rather than killed, and with his water-themed superpowers he could have survived being sucked in. That said, seeing as he apparently hasn't been seen since then, he probably didn't last very long after the fact...
* The ElectricTorture was rather disturbing, especially for something in a PG-rated movie. Made even worse in that Syndrome's expressed motive for it (the victim "sending out a distress signal") is something the victim did entirely by accident in the first place; Mr. Incredible wasn't even aware of the homing device and he wasn't contacting anyone! [[CassandraTruth But when he tried to tell Syndrome this, it was]] ''[[CassandraTruth immediately]]'' [[CassandraTruth dismissed as lying.]]
** How Mr Incredible came to be captured beforehand; having dozens of unremovable black "balloons" fired at him from nearby sentry guns as he struggles to escape, which expand and completely engulf him. The point-of-view shot of Mr Incredible's quickly-fading vision is chilling, especially for anyone with a fear of confinement or suffocation. The last thing he sees is Mirage, and we can tell just from her pose that Bob is in ''big'' trouble.
** When Helen peeks into a control room, she sees that one cell out of sixteen is drawing far more power than all the others, and she realizes that it's Bob's...but none of the cells is drawing no power, so ''all'' of the cells are being occupied by God knows who, likely with much less ability to resist torture than Mr. Incredible - and that's just ''one cell block''.
* For the aeronautically-inclined, hearing Helen's frantic voice-overs as the missiles approach and ultimately destroy the plane is pretty scary, especially if you imagine hearing it over a black box.
-->'''Helen''': Abort, abort! There are children aboard, say again, ''there are children on board this plane!''
** Mirage's reaction to hearing Helen's distress calls is [[AudienceSurrogate about the same as that of the audience]]; dawning realization turning into absolute horror.
** The [[WrongGenreSavvy Wrong Genre Savvyness]] of Helen during this sequence is pretty nightmarish as well, as she seems to remain under the assumption that everything is simply a misunderstanding and keep following the rules until the very end. Her increasingly frantic calls do not help.
** Also imagine how the scene would look to the Parr children. They went what appeared to be a funny plane trip with fancy costumes to seeing their mother clearly panicking for probably the first time in their lives. To top it, emotionally withdrawn teenager Violet gets yelled at by her mother for having trouble disobeying the rule they had to follow since their birth.
** Later on, we get the children yelling at the top of their lungs while plunging into the sea several meters below.
** [[WhatCouldHaveBeen Originally]], Helen's old pilot Snug would have been piloting the plane... and would have ''died'' in the explosion.
** It's a good thing that Violet and Dash were terrible at hiding on the plane, and they were found by Helen not long before the missiles shot down the plane. [[FridgeHorror But what if they hid somewhere else and didn't hear Helen's frantic pleas to call off the missiles, and Helen decided to jump off the plane right there and then...?]]
** Just imagine what [[ForcedToWatch Mr. Incredible]] is going through. If learning his beloved wife was unknowingly heading to danger wasn't horrible enough but his children are heading there as well. Then Syndrome launches the missiles and Mr. Incredible had to hear his wife and children's screams.
* After the battle with the robot, Elastigirl is checking voicemails, and hears the babysitter that Violet hired to watch Jack-Jack panicking over the phone about her infant son. Just when it comes to a head, the girl calms down and thanks her for calling a replacement sitter. The full force of the moment floats right over the heads of younger viewers, but the look of abject horror on Bob and Helen's faces and Helen's frantic, "I didn't call a replacement!" is [[RealismInducedHorror terrifying to older audience members]]. Sure enough, it turns out Syndrome has broken into their home, and is in the process of [[TheVillainKnowsWhereYouLive taking Jack-Jack away from them as revenge for thwarting his plan]].
-->'''Syndrome''': (''freezes Bob, Helen, Violet and Dash in place with Zero-Point energy'') Shhhhhh.... the baby's sleeping. (''[[EvilLaugh chuckles evilly]] as he pulls [[SlasherSmile an incredibly menacing grin]]'') You took away my future. I'm simply returning the favor. Oh, don't worry, I'll be a good mentor. Supportive, encouraging. Everything you ''weren't!'' And in time, who knows? He might make a good sidekick.
* In the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAh7onp0bCo alternate opening on the deleted scenes]], there's this really creepy moment after Syndrome hears baby Violet crying and then says to Bob, "You are breaking the law, Mr. Incredible. You know supers aren't supposed to breed", his eyes just ''slowly move in the direction of Violet's room.'' There's something very unsettling about that moment; Syndrome has Bob and Helen trapped with his freeze ray and there's nothing they can do to stop Syndrome as he moves down the hall toward Violet.
** Per WordOfGod, this was an intentional decision by Brad Bird to crank up the scare factor. He wanted to use focuses on eyes as a motif for Syndrome, and would end up recycling that idea in the final version of the film; the [[WhamLine "After all... I]] ''[[WhamLine am]]'' [[WhamLine your biggest fan"]] scene in particular.
** The fact that people with superpowers were legally unable to have any kids is pretty uncomfortable to think about in and of itself. If that was the actual wording of the law in the first place, then it takes on a rather disturbing turn if one thinks about it. They don't say "procreate," they don't say "have children," the law says "breed," as if they were treating supers like ''animals''.
* The scene of the man getting mugged, and the scene of the man attempting suicide at the beginning. Both realistic scenes. Also, the look of absolute rage on Bob's face when he's grabbed his boss by the neck. If you stop at just the right moment, he looks practically feral.
* Jack-Jack demonstrating his shape-shifting powers. The look of absolute rage on his face when he does it is something every parent has seen. The thought of his kind of power with base infant rage is utterly terrifying.
* On a more mundane level, Mr. Huph, Bob's BadBoss isn't afraid to threaten him with the loss of his job when Bob tries to rescue a man being mugged in the alley. Bob, having had enough of the sleazebag's lecturing crap, grabs him by his throat and hurls him through several walls and into a file cabinet, injuring him badly enough that he ends up in a body cast, while everyone stares at Bob in terror. A reminder that Bob is typically a nice person, but is very much capable of turning violent and aggressive especially if anyone like Huph, for example, tries to prevent him from rescuing innocent people in danger.
** Also on the mundane level, but no less terrifying, the aforementioned BadBoss that Bob had to work under was angry that Bob's customers were managing to get their claims approved because they [[MoneyDearBoy cut into the company's profits]] and make the shareholders unhappy. The claims, according to Bob, were all completely in accordance to what the clients signed for, but that makes no difference to his boss who all but states that their company isn't supposed to actually ''help'' people, but gouge them for all they're worth and leave them high and dry if they ever need to make a claim. This kind of predatory company policy is all too real.
* Some of the... looks... on Edna's face. Such as when ''baby Jack-Jack's suit is being '''set on fire''''', we see the flames being reflected off her eyeglasses, making her look quite maniacal, complete with an extremely [[AxCrazy deranged-looking]] SlasherSmile. If ever there was a talking CreepyGood, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/edna.jpg here she is]]!
* Bob and Helen watching as Violet and Dash are about to be crushed by the Omnidroid. Even worse is that Violet gets knocked out, leaving her and Dash defenseless against it. It's clear from Dash's reaction that he's afraid she may have been killed. And despite seeing the robot about to crush them, he refuses to leave Violet even to save his own life. That is until Bob [[ThePowerOfLove physically stops the robot]] and Helen grabs Violet just as she comes to while Dash runs out of dodge.
* Besides the bride and groom, there are six supers attending Bob & Helen's wedding: Lucius (the best man), Dynaguy, Thunderhead, Gazerbeam, Meta Man & Stratogale. Barely 15 years later, only one of them is still alive, and four of them died in cape-related mishaps! Even worse, Bob didn't know Gazerbeam was dead until he found his corpse and, judging from Edna's "no capes" lecture, may not have known about some of the others. Imagine discovering about half of the guests at your wedding have died violently - and you didn't even know about it until years after the fact.

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* After the battle with the robot, Elastigirl is checking voicemails, and hears the babysitter that Violet hired to watch Jack-Jack panicking over the phone about her infant son. Just when it comes to a head, the girl calms down and thanks her for calling a replacement sitter. The full force of the moment floats right over the heads of younger viewers, but the look of abject horror on Bob and Helen's faces and Helen's frantic, "I didn't call a replacement!" is [[RealismInducedHorror terrifying to older audience members]].

-->'''Syndrome''': Shhhhhh.... the baby's sleeping. (''[[EvilLaugh chuckles evilly]] as he pulls [[SlasherSmile an incredibly menacing grin]]'') You took away my future. I'm simply returning the favor. Oh, don't worry, I'll be a good mentor. Supportive, encouraging. Everything you ''weren't!'' And in time, who knows? He might make a good sidekick.

* After the battle with the robot, Elastigirl is checking voicemails, and hears the babysitter that Violet hired to watch Jack-Jack panicking over the phone about her infant son. Just when it comes to a head, the girl calms down and thanks her for calling a replacement sitter. The full force of the moment floats right over the heads of younger viewers, but the look of abject horror on Bob and Helen's faces and Helen's frantic, "I didn't call a replacement!" is terrifying to older audience members.
-->'''Syndrome''': Shhhhhh.... the baby's sleeping. (''[[EvilLaugh chuckles evilly]]'') You took away my future. I'm simply returning the favor. Oh, don't worry, I'll be a good mentor. Supportive, encouraging. Everything you ''weren't!'' And in time, who knows? He might make a good sidekick.

** That said, there were Mooks playing ''a DrinkingGame'' based what the Omnidroid did; taking a shot "when they run." So, y'know, whenever the WMD that they dropped into a major metropolitan area scored a OneHitKill, they showed their remorse by ''not'' taking a drink. Practically angels!

* After the battle with the robot, Elastigirl is checking voicemails, and hears the babysitter that Violet hired to watch Jack-Jack panicking over the phone about her infant son. Just when it comes to a head, the girl calms down and thanks her for calling a replacement sitter. The full force of the moment floats right over the heads of younger viewers, but the look of abject horror on Bob and Helen's faces and Helen's frantic, "I didn't call a replacement!" is [[AdultFear terrifying to older audience members]].

* The ElectricTorture was rather disturbing, especially for something in a PG-rated movie. Made even worse in that Syndrome's expressed motive for it (the victim "sending out a distress signal") is something the victim did entirely by accident in the first place; Mr. Incredible wasn't even aware of the homing device and he wasn't contacting anyone! [[CassandraTruth But when he tried to tell Syndrome this, it was ''immediately'' dismissed as lying.]]

* Some of the... looks... on Edna's face. Such as when ''baby Jack-Jack's suit is being '''set on fire''''', we see the flames being reflected off her eyeglasses, making her look quite maniacal, complete with an extremely [[AxCrazy deranged-looking]] SlasherSmile. If ever there was a talking ChaoticNeutral, [[https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/edna.jpg here she is]]!

** How Mr Incredible came to be caught beforehand -- having dozens of unremovable black "balloons" fired at him as he struggles to escape, which expand and completely engulf the protagonist. The point-of-view shot of Mr Incredible's quickly-fading vision is chilling, especially for anyone with a fear of confinement or suffocation. And the last thing he sees is Mirage, and we can tell from her pose that Bob is in ''big'' trouble.

** Even worse, many of those people must have gone through the ''exact same arc'' as Bob did. Feeling unfulfilled with normal life, the supers were approached by Mirage, given a mission, kept coming back, felt ''good'' about themselves again... [[ShootTheShaggyDog and then they were killed by the ever-evolving droid.]]

*** Which may even make it more tragic -- Syndrome only revealed the true purpose of the Omnidroid to Mr. Incredible after he defeated the first, meaning that for all those supers who died facing their first, they [[SenselessSacrifice would have died thinking that they were fighting to protect people, rather than just being data for Syndrome.]]
** And Bob is quickly relieved to know that Syndrome doesn't know where Helen is. Which then turns to alarmed concern when he finds out that Syndrome ''[[ParanoiaFuel does]]'' [[ParanoiaFuel know where Frozone is]]. Technically, he would've been the one Mirage approached to fight the Omnidroid instead of Bob if she hadn't noticed Bob, so thankfully, he dodged the bullet.

** The word "genocide" seems a little strong, but is there any other word to explain Syndrome systematically luring and murdering every known American superhero?
** And just think, if Syndrome had actually killed Bob. Bob never told his family where he was actually going. He would've just disappeared one day and would never be seen again. Bob's remains might have been found, assuming his suit had survived but that's no less horrific. It's also not unreasonable to assume some of the other superheroes had settled down and produced families of their own as well. Same thing, they just disappeared one day and their families never found out what happened to them.

** That said, there were Mooks playing ''a DrinkingGame'' based what the Omnidroid did -- taking a shot "when they run." So, y'know, whenever the WMD that they dropped into a major metropolitan area scored a OneHitKill, they showed their remorse by ''not'' taking a drink. Practically angels!
** Dash's high-speed chase with the velocipods becomes a lot more chilling when you realize he causes the death of about 8 people, tied with his father for the highest on-screen body count in the film. From a kid who's about 10. But it's horrifying from the other side, too -- multiple adult men are [[WouldHurtAChild deliberately and completely knowingly trying to murder a ten-year-old]] [[DisproportionateRetribution for pretty well no other reason than, well, trespassing]].
* No matter how [[KarmicDeath karmic]] and well-deserved it was, Syndrome's TurbineBlender death is just so horribly gruesome to think about.
** He goes in '''feet first''', which is just '''so''' much less pleasant than going in '''head first'''. So this technically means that his death was ''far'' from painless!
** Hell, [[EveryoneHasStandards even]] ''[[EveryoneHasStandards Bob]]'' [[EveryoneHasStandards cringes as he watches Syndrome get sucked into the turbine and promptly killed by the explosion]].

** Think about how poor Edna must have felt after all those cape malfunctions, especially Stratogale's--after all, she designed at least some of those costumes. Makes her rant about the whole thing and her "I never look back" mentality a lot darker...

*** Meta-Man got his caught on steel framework lifting up an express elevator. That elevator, which may or may not have had civilians in it, probably came crashing down on him. You can even hear him scream as he gets caught.
*** Dynaguy simply snagged on take-off. Given how quickly he launched, he likely snapped his neck. Even more horrific? ''You can hear him make a choking sound when the cape got snagged!''

* For the aeronautically-inclined, hearing Helen's voice-overs as the missiles approach and ultimately destroy the plane is pretty scary, especially if you imagine hearing it over a black box.

** Mirage's reaction to hearing that is [[AudienceSurrogate about the same as that of the audience]] -- dawning realization turning into horror.

** It's a good thing that Violet and Dash were terrible at hiding on the plane, and they were found by Helen not long before the missiles attacked the plane. [[FridgeHorror But what if they hid somewhere else and didn't hear Helen's frantic pleas to call off the missiles, and Helen decided to jump off the plane right there and then...?]]

* After the battle with the robot, Elastigirl is checking voicemails, and hears the babysitter that Violet hired to watch Jack-Jack panicking over the phone about her infant son. Just when it comes to a head, the girl calms down and thanks her for calling a replacement sitter. The full force of the moment floats right over the heads of younger viewers, but the look of abject horror on Bob and Helen's faces and Helen's frantic, "I didn't call a replacement!" is terrifying to older audience members.

* In the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAh7onp0bCo alternate opening on the deleted scenes]], there's this really creepy moment after Syndrome hears baby Violet crying and then says to Bob, "You are breaking the law, Mr. Incredible. You know supers aren't supposed to breed," his eyes just ''slowly move in the direction of Violet's room.'' There's something very unsettling about that moment; Syndrome has Bob and Helen trapped with his freeze ray and there's nothing they can do to stop Syndrome as he moves down the hall toward Violet.
** Per WordOfGod, this was an intentional decision by Brad Bird to crank up the scare factor. He wanted to use focuses on eyes as a motif for Syndrome, and would end up recycling that idea in the final version of the film (the "After all...''I am your biggest fan''" scene in particular).

--> Alex Eisenbeis: That moment when you find out your former fan has been systematically murdering dozens of superheroes to make a superweapon.

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[[caption-width-right:350: [[AdultFear Shhhhhh.... the baby's sleeping.]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:350: At least Syndrome [[LaserGuidedKarma had it coming.]]]]

-->'''Syndrome''': Shhhhhh.... the baby's sleeping. (''[[EvilLaugh chuckles evilly ]]'') You took away my future. I'm simply returning the favor. Oh, don't worry, I'll be a good mentor. Supportive, encouraging. Everything you ''weren't!'' And in time, who knows? He might make a good sidekick.

* On a more mundane level, Mr. Huph, Bob's BadBoss isn't afraid to threaten him with the loss of his job when Bob tries to rescue a man being mugged in the alley. Bob, having had enough of the sleazebag's lecturing crap, grabs him by his throat and hurls him through several walls and into a file cabinet, injuring him badly enough that he ends up in a body cast, while everyone stares at Bob in terror. A reminder that Bob is typically a nice person, but is very much capable of turning violent and aggressive especially if anyone like Huph, for example, tries to prevent him from rescuing innocent peoples in danger.

* Bob and Helen watching as Violet and Dash are about to be crushed by the Omnidroid. Even worse is that Violet gets knocked out, leaving her and Dash defenseless against it. It's clear from Dash's reaction that he's afraid she may have been killed. And despite seeing the robot about to crush them, he refuses to leave Violet even to save his own life. That is until Bob [[ThePowerOfLove physically stops the robot]] and Helen grabs Violet just as she comes too while Dash runs out of dodge.

[[caption-width-right:350: [[BigBad Syndrome]] [[LaserGuidedKarma had it coming.]]]]

** The word "genocide" seems a little strong, but is there any other word to describe Syndrome systematically luring and murdering every known American superhero?

* The list of supers killed, lured to their deaths during the Omnidroid testing. Really, how could ''anyone'' see Syndrome as a sympathetic character after ''that''? Especially when you consider that these are people Mr. Incredible knew personally; look closely, and you can see most of them ''at the wedding''. The increasing horror on Mr. Incredible's face certainly doesn't help either.

*** Which may even make it more tragic -- Syndrome only revealed the true purpose of the Omnidroid to Mr Incredible after he defeated the first, meaning that for all those supers who died facing their first, they [[SenselessSacrifice would have died thinking that they were fighting to protect people, rather than just being data for Syndrome.]]

* On a more mundane level, Mr. Huph, Bob's BadBoss isn't afraid to threaten him with the loss of his job when Bob tries to rescue a man being mugged in the alley. Bob, having had enough of the sleazebag's lecturing crap, grabs him by his throat and hurls him through several walls and into a file cabinet, injuring him badly enough that he ends up in a body cast, while everyone stares at Bob in terror. A reminder that Bob is normally a nice guy, but is very much capable of turning violent and aggressive especially if anyone like Huph, for example, tries to prevent him from rescuing innocent peoples in danger.

* The film takes no liberties in [[{{Deconstruction}} showcasing the downsides of a world filled with supers;]] from the risk of heroes [[TheBadGuyWins failing to save the day,]] to [[UngratefulBastard being persecuted and sued by the same people you vow to protect,]] and most frighteningly, the AdultFear that [[WouldHurtAChild villains will show no restraints against killing children if they pose a threat in any capacity]]. All of this leads to the supers becoming illegal, and the overall setting is very similar to ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}''.

* After the battle with the robot, Elastigirl is checking voicemails, and hears the babysitter that Violet hired to watch Jack-Jack panicking over the phone about her infant son. Just when it comes to a head, the girl calms down and thanks her for calling a replacement sitter. The full force of the moment floats right over the heads of younger viewers, but the look of abject horror on Bob and Helen's faces and Helen's frantic, "I didn't call a replacement!" is [[AdultFear terrifying to older audience members.]]

* In the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAh7onp0bCo alternate opening on the deleted scenes]], there's this really creepy moment after Syndrome hears baby Violet crying and then says to Bob, "You are breaking the law, Mr. Incredible. You know supers aren't supposed to breed," his eyes just ''slowly move in the direction of Violet's room.'' There's something very unsettling about that moment which cranks up AdultFear to the extreme. Syndrome has Bob and Helen trapped with his freeze ray and there's nothing they can do to stop Syndrome as he moves down the hall toward Violet.

* Bob and Helen watching as Violet and Dash are about to be crushed by the Omnidroid. Even worse is that Violet gets knocked out, leaving her and Dash defenseless against it. That is until Bob [[ThePowerOfLove physically stops the robot]] and Helen grabs Violet just as she comes too while Dash runs out of dodge.