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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy. Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Freddy doesn't just attempt to kill her in a gruesome fashion. Instead, He uses his powers to torment her in a genuinely nightmarish fashion. Freddy attacks Lori, and his mannerisms become chillingly intimate. His knives raise her skirt, which evokes fears of real-world sexual attackers and actions that would damage her beyond the film's events. It's not difficult to see why some fans believe he would have raped her.

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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy. Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Freddy doesn't just attempt to kill her in a gruesome fashion. Instead, He uses his powers to torment her in a genuinely nightmarish fashion. Freddy attacks Lori, and his mannerisms become chillingly intimate. His knives raise her skirt, which evokes fears of real-world sexual attackers and actions that would damage her beyond the film's events. It's not difficult to see why some fans believe he would have raped her.
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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy. Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing her in a gruesome fashion or use his powers to torment her in a truly nightmarish fashion, Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attackers and potentially more damaging to her, he decides to rape her.

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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy. Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing Freddy doesn't just attempt to kill her in a gruesome fashion or use fashion. Instead, He uses his powers to torment her in a truly genuinely nightmarish fashion, fashion. Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attacks Lori, and his mannerisms become chillingly intimate. His knives raise her skirt, which evokes fears of real-world sexual attackers and potentially more damaging actions that would damage her beyond the film's events. It's not difficult to her, see why some fans believe he decides to rape would have raped her.
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A crossover between these franchises is bound to have its awesome moments, just as it's bound to have its horrifying ones.

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A While a crossover between these franchises is bound to have its awesome moments, just as it's just as bound to have its horrifying ones.
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A crossover between these franchises is bound to have its awesome moments, just as it's bound to have its horrifying ones.
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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing [[spoiler:her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy.]] Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing her in a gruesome fashion or use his powers to torment her in a truly nightmarish fashion, Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attackers and potentially more damaging to her, he decides to rape her.

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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing [[spoiler:her her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy.]] Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing her in a gruesome fashion or use his powers to torment her in a truly nightmarish fashion, Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attackers and potentially more damaging to her, he decides to rape her.



* The opening scene of Jason's nightmare - assuming it's accurate to his history and not Freddy making it seem even worse - makes his origin-story even crueler than it had been, revealing that he hadn't just been out swimming when he drowned. [[spoiler: A pack of bullying young campers ''chased him into the lake'', taunting and throwing things at him, then stood jeering on the shore to ''watch him die''. And presumably never owned up to it, given Pamela Voorhees' sincere belief that it was ''solely'' the counselors' fault.]]

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* The opening scene of Jason's nightmare - assuming it's accurate to his history and not Freddy making it seem even worse - makes his origin-story even crueler than it had been, revealing that he hadn't just been out swimming when he drowned. [[spoiler: A pack of bullying young campers ''chased him into the lake'', taunting and throwing things at him, then stood jeering on the shore to ''watch him die''. And presumably never owned up to it, given Pamela Voorhees' sincere belief that it was ''solely'' the counselors' fault.]]



--> '''Freddy''': [[BigNo NO!]] She's mine! Mine! [[{{Freakout}} MINE!]]

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--> '''Freddy''': [[BigNo NO!]] She's mine! Mine! [[{{Freakout}} [[FreakOut MINE!]]



* How about the theatrical ending, where once again it is blatantly illustrated that, [[spoiler: no matter how hard you try to kill them, Freddy and Jason will simply never die.]]

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* How about the theatrical ending, where once again it is blatantly illustrated that, [[spoiler: no matter how hard you try to kill them, Freddy and Jason will simply never die.]]
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** In a deleted scene, Gibb encounters her boyfriend again, and this time she can see the results of Jason's attack on him firsthand: his body looks like it's made out of rubber, the way his spine had been completely broken when Jason stabbed him multiple times before he snapped him in half. And when she asks what happened to him, he responds angrily, "What do you think happened?! I've got a fucking machete shoved up my ass!"

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** In a deleted scene, Gibb encounters her boyfriend again, and this time she can see the results of Jason's attack on him firsthand: his body looks like it's made out of rubber, the way his spine had been completely broken when Jason stabbed him multiple times before he snapped him in half. And when she asks what happened to him, he responds angrily, "What the hell do you think happened?! is wrong?! I've got a fucking machete shoved up my ass!"
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** In a deleted scene, Gibb encounters her boyfriend again, and this time she can see the results of Jason's attack on him firsthand: his body looks like it's made out of rubber, the way his spine had been completely broken when Jason snapped him in half. And when she asks what happened to him, she responds angrily, "What do you think happened?! I've got a fucking machete shoved up my ass!"

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** In a deleted scene, Gibb encounters her boyfriend again, and this time she can see the results of Jason's attack on him firsthand: his body looks like it's made out of rubber, the way his spine had been completely broken when Jason stabbed him multiple times before he snapped him in half. And when she asks what happened to him, she he responds angrily, "What do you think happened?! I've got a fucking machete shoved up my ass!"
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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME! I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S ''AF-RAID!"''

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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME! I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S ''AF-RAID!"''''AFRAID!"''
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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME! I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S AFRAID!"

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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME! I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S AFRAID!"''AF-RAID!"''
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** And her reappearance in Lori's dream adds credence to the fan theory that ''every child'' that has ever appeared in a Freddy-created dream, from the jump-rope kids to the little girl on the tricycle, was an individual victim of Krueger's child-murder spree in life. They're not just hollow imagery he throws in for ambiance, like the boiler rooms or slash-marks: he's evoking their images (or worse yet, ''compelling their trapped souls'') to play a part in setting up more victims.
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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing [[spoiler:her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori.]] Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing her in a gruesome fashion or use his powers to torment her in a truly nightmarish fashion, Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attackers and potentially more damaging to her, he decides to rape her.

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* Lori's last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!" as she sees her father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing [[spoiler:her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori. It turns out her father performed a MercyKill on her mother to save her from Freddy.]] Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing her in a gruesome fashion or use his powers to torment her in a truly nightmarish fashion, Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attackers and potentially more damaging to her, he decides to rape her.
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** In a deleted scene, Gibb encounters her boyfriend again, and this time she can see the results of Jason's attack on him firsthand: his body looks like it's made out of rubber, the way his spine had been completely broken when Jason snapped him in half. And when she asks what happened to him, she responds angrily, "What do you think happened?! I've got a fucking machete shoved up my ass!"
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** Even with Jason killing Trey, that isn't what got the seed of Freddy planted in the minds of Lori and her friends. It was an idiot cop who couldn't help but comment on the murder taking place at 1428 Elm Street ''within speaking distance of Lori''. And the other officers refusing to explain only got Lori curious as she wanted to know who this Freddy person was they suspected killer Trey. The adults of Springwood are officially some of the most useless, self-destructive adults in horror fiction and their kids keep paying for it.

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** Even with Jason killing Trey, that isn't what got the seed of Freddy planted in the minds of Lori and her friends. It was an idiot cop who couldn't help but comment on the murder taking place at 1428 Elm Street ''within speaking distance earshot of Lori''. And the other officers refusing to explain only got Lori curious as she wanted to know who this Freddy person was they suspected killer killed Trey. The adults of Springwood are officially some of the most useless, self-destructive destructive adults in horror fiction and their kids keep paying for it.
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** Their efforts turned out to be for naught, as even if Freddy didn't kill anyone for four years it meant he needed to get creative to get the kids talking about him. Freddy unleashed a killer who could get to the kids in the waking world regardless if anyone knew who Jason Voorhees was, and there was nothing the adults of Springwood could do to stop him.
** Even with Jason killing Trey, that isn't what got the seed of Freddy planted in the minds of Lori and her friends. It was an idiot cop who couldn't help but comment on the murder taking place at 1428 Elm Street ''within speaking distance of Lori''. And the other officers refusing to explain only got Lori curious as she wanted to know who this Freddy person was they suspected killer Trey. The adults of Springwood are officially some of the most useless, self-destructive adults in horror fiction and their kids keep paying for it.
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* Freddy Krueger's past is laid out in a prologue that features an [[NothingIsScarier offscreen]] murder of a little girl -- who's later seen in a dream sequence ''with her eyes cut out''. Say what you want about Freddy's VillainDecay, but he got his reputation '''for a reason'''.

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* Freddy Krueger's past is laid out in a prologue that features an [[NothingIsScarier offscreen]] murder of a little girl -- who's later seen in a dream sequence ''with [[EyeScream her eyes cut out''.out]]''. Say what you want about Freddy's VillainDecay, but he got his reputation '''for a reason'''.
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* The parents of Springwood have once again gone to disturbing extremes to protect their children from Freddy Krueger. Censoring any mention of Freddy's existence now that they understand simply knowing of him is enough for Freddy to get their kids? Understandable. Sequestering any and every kid who knows the slightest bit about Freddy in Westin Hills and keeping them doped up on Hypnocil, even to the point of putting them in irreversible comas? Horrifying. It gets worse when considering some, such as Lori's father, have gone as far as {{Gaslighting}} their kids to protect them at the cost of questioning their sanity.

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* Just imagine, you're at a rave, probably a little drunk or stoned (and definitely not taking the recent murders seriously)... then Jason comes walking out of the corn field, [[ManOnFire engulfed in flames,]] and starts slaughtering everyone in sight as the fire starts to spread. Hope you have the car keys, otherwise you're in for a very ill-fated run for your life.

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* Just imagine, you're at a rave, probably a little drunk or stoned (and definitely not taking the recent murders seriously)... then Jason comes walking out of the corn field, [[ManOnFire engulfed in flames,]] flames]] (as seen above) and starts slaughtering everyone in sight as the fire starts to spread. Hope you have the car keys, otherwise you're in for a very ill-fated run for your life. Even worse is no matter what they tried to do, [[NoSell it would do zilch to stop him.]]
** The first two deaths he commits at the rave deserve special mention: whereas the first stoner tries to play tough guy and kick Jason out, he just twists his head around as quickly as turning a doorknob, killing him instantly. Then after Shack throws everclear on him and sets him ablaze hoping it will kill him, he begins to pursue him and ultimately kills him via a flaming machete through the heart. ''Yikes.''
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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S AFRAID!"

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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME ME! I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S AFRAID!"
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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS!"

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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS!"REMEMBERS ME I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY'S AFRAID!"

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* Lori's "Please wake me up!"
* And a little later in her dream where Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is sleeping, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor.

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* Lori's "Please wake last nightmare after she fails to bring Freddy into the real world. Her terrified scream and yelling "Wake me up!"
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up!" as she sees her dream where father carrying a blade towards his bedroom. Upon seeing [[spoiler:her mother's bloody body, Lori assumes her father is going to murder her, only to realize Freddy is the real murderer, who gleefully repeats his crime in front of a screaming Lori.]] Unable to escape, Lori is subjected to Freddy giving her cuts on her breasts as he grins sadistically and almost perversely. Then Freddy slides his finger blade up her thighs while she is sleeping, unable to get up, and pulling her skirt up, revealing her bare legs as she whimpers and writhes on the floor.floor as he tells her "the first time tends to get a little.. messy". Instead of killing her in a gruesome fashion or use his powers to torment her in a truly nightmarish fashion, Freddy decides to do to Lori something more akin to real world attackers and potentially more damaging to her, he decides to rape her.
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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME!"

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** And Freddy screaming "I CAN'T COME BACK IF NOBODY REMEMBERS ME!"REMEMBERS!"
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* Lori's "Please wake me up!".

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* Lori's "Please wake me up!".up!"
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* How about the theatrical ending, where once again it is blatantly illustrated that, [[spoiler: no matter how hard you try to kill them, Jason and Freddy will simply never die.]]

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* How about the theatrical ending, where once again it is blatantly illustrated that, [[spoiler: no matter how hard you try to kill them, Jason and Freddy and Jason will simply never die.]]
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** Freddy's livid reaction to Jason killing Gibb right as he was about to.

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** Freddy's livid reaction to Jason killing Gibb right as he was about to.to do it himself.
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** That and when Jason is woken up, his kid self vanishes, leaving Freddy so pissed he looks up at Lori before lunging out of the water as everything turns red, [[OneWingedAngel now looking more like a burnt demon version of himself]]. Freddy makes it perfectly clear that now, ''he's not gonna hold back with her''.

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** That and when Jason is woken up, his kid self vanishes, leaving Freddy so pissed he looks up at Lori before lunging out of the water as everything turns red, [[OneWingedAngel now looking more like a burnt demon version of himself]]. Freddy makes Freddy's made it perfectly clear that now, ''he's not gonna hold back with her''.

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