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* There are both Autobot and Decepticon crashed ships, energon deposits scattered all around the planet, tombs of ancient Decepticon warriors, not to mention various random alien artifacts lying around, and an entire graveyard of Cybertronians. Why hasn't a single earthling stumbled upon these? ''Especially'' the ships and dead Cybertronians?!
** Well, the Energon Harvester has been discovered and put in a museum...
** They probably have, but what's to say that they weren't killed in the process, deemed insane or just laughed at?
*** Here's another question, why would the U.S. government allow Skyquake's remains to stay out in the open for anyone to stumble across? Yes he was ''buried'' but still?
* In the season 2 finale, why didn't Optimus just use the Star Saber to finish off the Decepticons when he had a chance? Obviously, making sure Jack, Miko, and Raf were safe was his top priority, but once they were through the space bridge, there was nothing stopping him from taking advantage of the chaos he just caused by destroying the Omega lock and killing Megatron, Starscream, Soundwave, Knockout, and the rest of the 'Cons present right then and there. Also, after the Decepticon fortress on earth was revealed, why didn't he just use the Star Saber to wipe out the attacking Decepticons? Even the Nemesis is unable to withstand the power of the Star Saber, so there was no reason for Optimus not to make a stand and annihilate the attacking 'Cons. Yeah, there wouldn't be a third season, but there's no in-universe reason not to fight back.
** It is possible that the Star Saber takes time to recharge before it can use the sword beam again. Thus, Optimus wasn't sure he'd have time to fight back. Also, consider that the cons were essentially throwing EVERYTHING at the autobots at the time. Depending on how they maneuvered, they might have found a way around Optimus Prime, and taken him down that way. Finally, and most importantly, Optimus wanted to ensure the rest of his team survived, so he wanted to see them off before he tried fighting. He might have expected a ground invasion instead of just a Nuke Em All option, so he wanted that taken care of first.
** Moreover, he could just pull one key out of the Lock and it would presumably stop functioning. Then he would have been able to defeat the decepticons with the Star Saber (now that the children are not threatened by them) and restore Cybertron. Well, maybe the firefight would result in casualties.
** Many modern automobiles have a safety feature where the key can't be removed from the ignition while the engine is running. It's not unthinkable that something as powerful as the Omega Lock would have similar safeguards.
*** Also, there just wasn't time to consider every option. Optimus knew that the longer the Omega Lock was hitting Earth, the higher the casualty count would rise. If he tried and failed to stop the Decepticons once, they'd pile in and kill him, the other Autobots, and the kids. He only had one chance. Destroying the Lock was the one surefire way to stop it.
** It's important to note that Optimus ''did'' use a SwordBeam against the 'Cons when they were attacked on Earth. Immediately after wiping out a wave of them, a second one descended on the Autobots. In short, Optimus simply didn't have the opportunity to fully utilize the range advantage of the Star Sabre's beam attack.
** With the ZergRush going on Optimus knew their best chance was to retreat and disperse (ensuring ''everyone's'' survival) rather than trying to hold their ground in a conflict that had changed drastically in the last 2 minutes. It was a tactical retreat rather than leading a potentially deadly offense. The Star Saber was a game changer in the previous status quo but the fact it was shattered in the second episode shows that even it has its limits.
** There's another explanation for Optimus' decisions: maybe he was just unlucky? Think about it. Optimus had no trouble at all in reclaiming the Star Saber at the start of Darkest Hour; maybe he just wanted to get the kids out of the way (rather than risk them getting harmed in the crossfire)? I think that, had Megs not opened fire on Earth and screwed Prime over, the Autobots would have "won" (keeping in mind that the Omega Lock only grants a ''political'' advantage) after the Lock had been activated. Then, his choice at the end of the episode (i.e. staying behind) may have ended better if the Nemesis hadn't fired a laser into the base. That was kinda unexpected to us too.
* When it was revealed that Predacons had inspired much of Earth's folklore, how come no-one looked to said tales or revealed common knowledge about them to find out any weaknesses that a Predacon might possess? For instance it is common knowledge that a dragons weak spot is its heart and Predaking had a circle on his chest that was heavily implied to be more VULNERABLE than the rest of him, yet NO-ONE struck him there ONCE.
** Remember, Predaking is one of the strongest beings in the Primeverse, one who bested Megatron if not for Starscream, easily mowed through what is implied as hundreds of Vehicons, defeated Optimus' powered-up mode and stood against Unicron longer than anyone else, ALONE. The Autobots may be fully aware that he is weak at the heart but is not strong enough to exploit it, as he's not only fast enough to dodge blasts in dragon form, rumored enough to resist them altogether, but he's also an offensive fighter that strikes first, leaving them no time to try it. After all, we know all of Mike Tyson or Bruce Lee's weaknesses, that doesn't mean we can beat them.
* Long one: It may have rendered the series moot in its most positive outcome, but in the second episode, Agent Fowler suggests full military mobilization against the Decepticons and Optimus shoots down the idea. Assuming the Pentagon had time to prepare and that the series had stayed on-course with the destruction of the first space bridge and Megatron's coma, who's to say that the military going all-in on the Decepticons while Starscream was in command - while the other big-name Decepticons had yet to show up - wouldn't work out. By that point, it was just Starscream, Soundwave, Knockout, and Breakdown acting as leaders. Other Decepticons show up later, yes, but it's implied that the mass-produced troops occupying the warship - the vehicons and seekers - were the sum total of its manpower, as in, NOT INFINITE. Plot armor aside, it's later said by the characters that mass-produced Cybertronian combatants are merely programmed for battle, not experienced, and they're pretty stupid otherwise; the entire Seeker armada couldn't shoot down Agent Fowler while he was charging at them headlong in a barely-armed helicopter, and vehicons can't adapt to non-combat. Decepticon engineering and architecture are also not human-proof, since Agent Fowler's squadron destroyed Darkmount with regular missiles. With all that being said; the Decepticons were at their weakest, operating on as limited manpower as a species without a homeworld can, said manpower being of below-average combat skill, while their leader lay dying, with no other leaders up to bat, and being led by the second-in-command who if snuffed out would have left them without any strategic minds. Yet Optimus claimed that five Autobots were "the best, possibly [only] defense against the Decepticon threat," because humans by themselves are squishy. Even Megatron complimented humanity's resilience when he failed to kill a 12-year-old with Unicron's power; and considering all the holes it dug the Autobots into, the idea of humanity fully joining the fight doesn't seem like such a bad idea in retrospect.
** This assumes that humanity has the capability to wage a war against an alien warship. Humanity ''sucks'' when it comes to space warfare, and the Nemesis shows time and again that it evades even the best forms of tracking it - the Autobots only manage to find it by locking onto Rachet's signal in the finale, and it can enter the atmosphere without, as {{Webvideo/Cinemasins}} would put it, anyone watching space for a living noticing it. Certainly, it's just one warship, but the problem is not waging war against it, the problem is engaging it in the first place, and preventing it from escaping into space where our militaries can't follow; it was hit by the Star Saber, and though it was rattled, the damage was negligible, not even worth mentioning in the following episodes. Finally, even if you remove Starscream from the picture, that just leaves [[HypercompetentSidekick Soundwave]] in control.
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* In the season 2 finale, why do the Decepticons think shooting Earth with the Omega Lock is a good idea? They know Earth is actually Unicron, but don't think that'd wake/heal him?
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*** Aside from the soul thing, the spark also functions as heart equivalent. Human bodies can also be kept "alive" despite being brain dead, so presumably it was like that. Megatron's soul and consciousness being in different bodies at the same time is still kind of weird though.
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*** But where did Predaking's spark come from and how, given that The Allspark was out of commission at the moment? New sparks weren't being created, and it ''propably'' isn't possible to yank a spark out of the afterlife and just put it in a new body (or at least such acts ''propably'' aren't within Shockwave's power....)
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** There is no real evidence that there is anything left of Breakdown's mind/spark to influence Cylas. His behaviour is likely caused by the simple fact that he got some brain damage after his body got smashed, in addition to being permanently hooked into an experimental life-support system powered by energon. We saw that Cylas's mind is affected by the dark and synthetic energons; seems plausible that the constant exposure to normal energon had some negative side-effects on his brain as well.
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* Can Starscream transform his 'fingers' into talons and back? I've watched the ending of Speed Metal a few times and every time I feel that somehow Starscreams hand had changed. The talon suddenly looks a lot sharper and deformed not as round as the other fingers and you can hear some kind of sound like knives clanging against each other
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* Can Starscream transform his 'fingers' into talons and back? I've watched the ending of Speed Metal a few times and every time I feel that somehow Starscreams hand had changed. The talon suddenly looks a lot sharper and deformed not as round as the other fingers fingers, and you can hear some kind of sound like knives clanging against each otherother.
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* So So, what exactly gave Fowler the idea that it was the Decepticons that were after the DNGS? Did he have any proof beforehand that it wasn't Humans, or did the larger scale of the Autobot/Decepticon conflict blind him to alternate explanations?
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* As Megatron asked, why ''did'' Knock Out bring CYLAS to the ''Nemesis''? Why didn't Knock Out just gut and slash CYLAS to death to avenge his fallen comrade Breakdown?
** Maybe he wanted to see what Megatron would think of this? He did ask Megatron's permission to kill CYLAS so he probably just wanted the go word from him.
** Agreed. In "Triangulation", Dreadwing says that it's protocol for Decepticons to bring any traitors back to the ''Nemesis'' for Megatron to either decide the punishment or execute them himself. We can assume that this extends to potential prisoners (which, by the end, CYLAS is).
* Is Silas/Cylas truly in control, or is he being subliminally manipulated by leftover bits of Breakdown's programming? The second he's operational/conscious again, CYLAS kills all of his remaining men (despite the fact that he'd always treated them fairly before) in favor of allying himself with the Decepticons. Then he, in true Decepticon fashion, tries to weasel his way into the ranks by giving Megatron the Damoclese satellite. He is a little ''too'' willing to fight Bulkhead, his FauxAffablyEvil personality is practically gone, and he's a lot less pragmatic than before (somehow thinking that the Decepticons would happily accept him into their ranks).
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* Miko's voice. If the actress was going for a Japanese accent, they dropped the ball because she sounds more like a female [[Film/TheRoom Tommy Wiseau.]]
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** And in "Triage" it's established that Wheeljack is capable (or, at least, he ''claims'' to be capable) of reparing the pretty thoroughly trashed ''Jackhammer'' by himself without any need for help or spare parts. I'm amazed BadassMechanic is a redlink...
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** Maybe Megatron was having Soundwave search for any way in which the keys were to be used? hy did in mind that Megatron didn't know exactly ''how'' the keys were supposed to be used to replenish Cybertron. It's possible the silent 'bot had his plate full scouring their database for any clues as to their purpose. In addition, it's plausible Soundwave felt that certain other, more dubiously loyal crewmembers (Knockout and Starscream) warranted a closer eye than Dreadwing.
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** The Deceptions didn't just spring up from nowhere. When they started, they were a legitimate movement for reform over the corrupt and decadent regime. Most of the initial followers were bots that had been downtrodden by the old caste system who saw the cause as righteous rebellion or just a chance to get justified revenge. This included Orion Pax himself. When the Great War began, it would have seem like a confusing and chaotic time where either the Autobots or Decepticons could be painted as the "good" side with just a bit of propaganda. Sure, the Decepticons really radicalized by that point, but the Autobots probably didn't seem to offer much better aside from a vague sense of self-righteousness while fighting this destructive war. It only got murkier since it was Optimus himself who had to effectively doom Cybertron by jettisoning the Allspark to prevent Megatron misusing it. Fast forward millions of years to now and see Optimus again ruining the chance to restore Cybertron to life just for the sake of what would seem like bugs to most Cybertronians and you can see just how easily he could be painted as the true villain. As evil as Megatron is, he is offering them a home and purpose. Meanwhile Optimus' morality has to seem misguided at best and suicidal at worst after what it has led to. Sure, we know it's all Megatron's fault and that his rule would be nightmarish, but most Cybertronians would only see one side trying to restore their home while the other is ruining it even further. All for the sake some remote dirt ball planet covered in gross flesh creatures that'll be dead in the blink of an eye. If Ratchet, Optimus' oldest friend and ally, was almost ready to abandon him after hearing about it, the average Cybertronian would be baying for his head on a pike.
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*** Seems to me like people would've noticed a military task force being wiped out moreso. Which do you think would be easier to explain away: some missile or artillery strikes in Nevada (the army could say it was a routine training exercise) or an entire army unit being decimated, and hundreds of soldiers being killed or wounded by an alien super-weapon. While an artillery/missile strike might not have worked, it would've been a far safer, less riskier option than a direct assault.
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** AnimationLeadTime. The show is being aired while its being produced, and it takes quite a bit of time to make a show of this quality. The hiatus's are when the airing schedule catches up with production. At least, that's one possible explanation.
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** AnimationLeadTime.ProductionLeadTime. The show is being aired while its being produced, and it takes quite a bit of time to make a show of this quality. The hiatus's are when the airing schedule catches up with production. At least, that's one possible explanation.
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*** You think you have it bad? You should see how often [[WesternAnimation/YoungJustice Young Justice]] goes on hiatus...
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** It's sorta similar to the differences between the [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers original cartoon]] and the [[Comicbook/TheTransformers Marvel comic.]] It's the same basic story and universe, but they have different ways of portraying it.
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* I don't get how Megatron getting a political move from retoring Cybertron would gain the public's favor? Won't any Cybertronian be suspicious towards the Con after he was the one who nearly destroyed the planet in the first place?
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** Breakdown is a lot stronger than Knock Out, even if the former is basically a corpse driven by an evil terrorist. So, Knock Out didn't had a choice until they got on board the Nemesis where Knock Out has Megatron and the entire crew to help him.
* I don't get how Megatron getting a political move from retoring Cybertron would gain the public's favor? Won't any Cybertronian be suspicious towards the Con after he was the one who nearly destroyed the planet in the first place?
* I don't get how Megatron getting a political move from retoring Cybertron would gain the public's favor? Won't any Cybertronian be suspicious towards the Con after he was the one who nearly destroyed the planet in the first place?
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*** [[CompletelyMissingThePoint Not the point]]. Yes, he recognised ''the Phase Shifter''. But he ''didn't know Starscream had the Apex Armor''. The point isn't the Phase Shifter [[AssPull coming out of nowhere]] - it didn't, that was well done. But it wasn't explained how he knew, at the point he went for it, he even ''needed it''.
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** Later seasons of Rescue Bots just had the implication of Optimus communicating with the RB team from The Realm of the Primes (a fancy afterlife for all the Primes), usually offscreen unless absolutely necessary, until he was resurrected in Robots in Disguise, at which point he started showing up in person again.
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** Because he already did. Remember the FiveEpisodePilot--Megatron ''had been'' out in the universe with the intention of building an army. When he shows up in Earth's space, the first thing Starscream does is semi-sarcastically ask him where the army was he went to gather. So the reason Megatron doesn't leave Earth to build up his forces and return is because he already tried it and there isn't an army out there to gather.
*** I found that a bit weird. I took it that Megatron found dark energon and decided an undead army would be more effective. Skyquake was on Earth and Megatron did not reactivate him. I assume they can make more Vehicons and other low-class Decipticons considering how many the Autobots destroy. Energon was stated to have been hidden on many planets. I assume warriors may have been left to guard it or the very least it could be used to build an overwhelming army.
*** I found that a bit weird. I took it that Megatron found dark energon and decided an undead army would be more effective. Skyquake was on Earth and Megatron did not reactivate him. I assume they can make more Vehicons and other low-class Decipticons considering how many the Autobots destroy. Energon was stated to have been hidden on many planets. I assume warriors may have been left to guard it or the very least it could be used to build an overwhelming army.
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*** I found that a bit weird. I took it that Megatron founddark energon Dark Energon and decided an undead army would be more effective. Skyquake was on Earth and Megatron did not reactivate him. I assume they can make more Vehicons and other low-class Decipticons considering how many the Autobots destroy. Energon was stated to have been hidden on many planets. I assume warriors may have been left to guard it or the very least it could be used to build an overwhelming army.
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*** It was probably a tactical decision to split them up, as for why the had Arcee get Jack and Bee get Raf, well for one thing Raf could communicate with Bee (Remember they had a breif discussion when he smashed Raf's RC care), while Jack couldn't, and people had ''seen'' Jack on Arcee, so it'd be less likely to raise eyebrows.
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**** Whether you use the flashbacks from the show, the War For Cybertron game, or the Exodus novel there is no part of the aligned continuity in which Optimus got the Matrix before the war had been going on for a long time, the show's a bit more ambiguous but states that Orion traveled to the core to try and reverse corruption caused by the war, now unless the core is ''extremely'' sensitive to the hatred between the Autobots and Deceptions that implies the war went on for quite some time, the Exodus novel describes numerous battles taking place over the course of the war, and the game actively has Zeta Prime still in charge and the war in full swing when the game starts, none of these fit with the idea that loosing the matrix would revert Optimus to a pre-war state, where he wouldn't recognize his allies (in the exodus novel Bumblebee was one of the ones who accompanied him to he core) and would be unaware Megatron is still his friend and not an enemy. It would've made more sense for Optimus to revert to a less skilled, less sure of himself version of himself (something akin to TFA Optimus for example), who isn't able to match Megatron and needed to goon a quest to re-earn the matrix and regain hiss memories.
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*** There's a lot of assumptions being made there. They're not going to just stand there. This is suggesting that Optimus start a fight that he may well lose, instead of taking action while he can. He has ''one'' chance to act here, while he has the element of surprise. It's a decision made in the moment.
