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* Regarding Krolock's Eleven O' Clock Number, "Die Unstillbare Gier": he spends the number in the castle's graveyard, and kneels down on a grave to talk about his memories of his first victim. In the second part of the song, he goes over another grave (the pastor's daughter) and later points to a third one, as he remembers Napoleon's page. Is it s stylistic choice, or is the audience supposed to believe that his previous victims are indeed buried at the cemetery and have joined the vampire ensemble?

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* Regarding Krolock's Eleven O' Clock Number, "Die Unstillbare Gier": he spends the number in the castle's graveyard, and kneels down on a grave to talk about his memories of his first victim. In the second part of the song, he goes over another grave (the pastor's daughter) and later points to a third one, as he remembers Napoleon's page. Is it s a stylistic choice, or is the audience supposed to believe that his previous victims are indeed buried at the cemetery and have joined the vampire ensemble?
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* Regards Krolock's Eleven O' Clock Number, "Die Unstillbare Gier": he spends the number in the castle's graveyard, and kneels down on a grave to talk about his memories of his first victim. In the second part of the song, he goes over another grave (the pastor's daughter) and later points to a third one, as he remembers Napoleon's page. Is it s stylistic choice, or is the audience supposed to believe that his previous victims are indeed buried at the cemetery and have joined the vampire ensemble?

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* Regards Regarding Krolock's Eleven O' Clock Number, "Die Unstillbare Gier": he spends the number in the castle's graveyard, and kneels down on a grave to talk about his memories of his first victim. In the second part of the song, he goes over another grave (the pastor's daughter) and later points to a third one, as he remembers Napoleon's page. Is it s stylistic choice, or is the audience supposed to believe that his previous victims are indeed buried at the cemetery and have joined the vampire ensemble?
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* Regards Krolock's Eleven O' Clock Number, "Die Unstillbare Gier": he spends the number in the castle's graveyard, and kneels down on a grave to talk about his memories of his first victim. In the second part of the song, he goes over another grave (the pastor's daughter) and later points to a third one, as he remembers Napoleon's page. Is it s stylistic choice, or is the audience supposed to believe that his previous victims are indeed buried at the cemetery and have joined the vampire ensemble?
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** Someone has also guessed on Tumblr that the ballroom used to be the castle's chapel. When the cross was formed, it basically turned the place back into holy ground.
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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix wasn't dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off in this manner, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.

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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix wasn't dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off in this manner, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.of.
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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix wasn't good enough; to some viewers who aren't rabid ''Tanz'' fans, it ''does'' come across as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.

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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix wasn't good enough; to some viewers who aren't rabid ''Tanz'' fans, it ''does'' come across as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic, in this manner, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.
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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was not dramatic enough; to some viewers who aren't rabid ''Tanz'' fans, it ''does'' come across as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.

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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was not dramatic wasn't good enough; to some viewers who aren't rabid ''Tanz'' fans, it ''does'' come across as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.
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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was a bit of an ''over''reaction and not dramatic enough. [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.

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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was a bit of an ''over''reaction not dramatic enough; to some viewers who aren't rabid ''Tanz'' fans, it ''does'' come across as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough.enough to give the twist ending more impact (i.e., [[spoiler:if all the vampires are dead, then it seems like Alfred and Abronsius have actually won the battle, which would make Sarah's surprise snack at the end of the show more shocking, to some anyway]]). [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact, anticlimactic, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.
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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was a bit of an ''over''reaction and not dramatic enough. [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including ([[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]). This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with ([[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]). This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.

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** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was a bit of an ''over''reaction and not dramatic enough. [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including ([[spoiler:an [[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]). ballroom]]. This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with ([[spoiler:an [[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]).Crawford]]. This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.

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** If I'm remebering correctly, they didn't make the cross intentionally, it was just sort of a happy acccident and the professor is kind of scatter brained, so the "they didn't think of it at the moment" excuse still holds up.

* Stuttgart production: The cross is made and Krolock screams "Bring her back!". Then we see the animation of the complete castle turning into dust. Which looks awesome, but makes no sense. So Vampires can't walk through crosses but as the Professor had one for some time in the near of the Count, they don't seem to be deadly. So why exactly is everyone dead and even the castle turns to dust? Eh?

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** If I'm remebering remembering correctly, they didn't make the cross intentionally, it was just sort of a happy acccident accident and the professor is kind of scatter brained, so the "they didn't think of it at the moment" excuse still holds up.

* Stuttgart production: The cross is made and Krolock screams "Bring her back!". Then we see the animation of the complete castle turning into dust. Which looks awesome, but makes no sense. So Vampires can't walk through crosses but as the Professor had one for some time in the near of the Count, they don't seem to be deadly. So why exactly is everyone dead and even the castle turns to dust? Eh?Eh?
** As this troper recalls, the staging decision in question (i.e., producing a cross reduces the castle to ruins) dates back to the early writing process for the American version pre-Michael Crawford. It was apparently felt that the vampires' reaction to Alfred and Abronsius' crucifix was a bit of an ''over''reaction and not dramatic enough. [[http://mljs.evilnickname.org/jimsteinman/dotv/dotv_earlyscript_act2.html#a2s9 Early drafts of the American version]] featured total destruction of the castle once they flashed the cross, including ([[spoiler:an eruption of fire, walls crumbling, and a river of blood pouring down the middle of the ballroom]]). This of course was not reflected in the final American production, replaced with ([[spoiler:an overly dramatic death scene for Michael Crawford]]). This troper's guess is that at some point, European producers also decided the events in the castle ballroom came off as anticlimactic and not dramatic enough to give the twist ending more impact, hence the castle's self-destruction and a bunch of dead vampires. Evidently they repented their sin, for it has not featured in many other productions that this troper knows of.
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** If I'm remebering correctly, they didn't make the cross intentionally, it was just sort of a happy acccident and the professor is kind of scatter brained, so the "they didn't think of it at the moment" excuse still holds up.

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** If I'm remebering correctly, they didn't make the cross intentionally, it was just sort of a happy acccident and the professor is kind of scatter brained, so the "they didn't think of it at the moment" excuse still holds up.up.

* Stuttgart production: The cross is made and Krolock screams "Bring her back!". Then we see the animation of the complete castle turning into dust. Which looks awesome, but makes no sense. So Vampires can't walk through crosses but as the Professor had one for some time in the near of the Count, they don't seem to be deadly. So why exactly is everyone dead and even the castle turns to dust? Eh?
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* If Alfred and the Professor could fend off the vampires as easily as making a cross shape out of objects, why didn't they do that as soon as they saw Sarah come down the stairs? In other works, the "they didn't think about it at that moment" might work, but Abronsius thinks about vampires so much, he should have done this much sooner.

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* If Alfred and the Professor could fend off the vampires as easily as making a cross shape out of objects, why didn't they do that as soon as they saw Sarah come down the stairs? In other works, the "they didn't think about it at that moment" might work, but Abronsius thinks about vampires so much, he should have done this much sooner.sooner.
**If I'm remebering correctly, they didn't make the cross intentionally, it was just sort of a happy acccident and the professor is kind of scatter brained, so the "they didn't think of it at the moment" excuse still holds up.

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