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* Colter is constantly told that he only has eight minutes, as that is when the bomb on the train goes off. However, he gets off the train twice, and both times is also killed. At the very end when his last eight minutes are up, [[spoiler: nothing happens. He's free to go about his new alternate life]]. So all Colter had to do to get out of it was [[spoiler:not get killed any of the previous times he was sent into the Source Code]]. The eight minutes meant [[spoiler:absolutely nothing at all, other than that was how far he could go back, and not how long he had inside the Source Code]]. He could have just [[spoiler:walked off the train and the Source Code project would have been complete and total failure]].
** Until he got unplugged for failure to complete his mission on that pass. He was only [[spoiler:free to go about his new alternate life]] because [[spoiler:the plug had been pulled on his original body, creating a new quantum reality for him to live in]]. The movie as a whole seems to be precipitated on exploring the ideas of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality quantum immortality]].
** Until he got unplugged for failure to complete his mission on that pass. He was only [[spoiler:free to go about his new alternate life]] because [[spoiler:the plug had been pulled on his original body, creating a new quantum reality for him to live in]]. The movie as a whole seems to be precipitated on exploring the ideas of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality quantum immortality]].
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* Colter is constantly told that he only has eight minutes, as that is when the bomb on the train goes off. However, he gets off the train twice, and both times is also killed. At the very end when his last eight minutes are up, [[spoiler: nothing happens. He's free to go about his new alternate life]]. life. So all Colter had to do to get out of it was [[spoiler:not not get killed any of the previous times he was sent into the Source Code]]. Code. The eight minutes meant [[spoiler:absolutely absolutely nothing at all, other than that was how far he could go back, and not how long he had inside the Source Code]]. Code. He could have just [[spoiler:walked walked off the train and the Source Code project would have been complete and total failure]].
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** Until he got unplugged for failure to complete his mission on that pass. He was only[[spoiler:free free to go about his new alternate life]] because [[spoiler:the the plug had been pulled on his original body, creating a new quantum reality for him to live in]].in. The movie as a whole seems to be precipitated on exploring the ideas of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality quantum immortality]].
** Until he got unplugged for failure to complete his mission on that pass. He was only
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*** Which, in and of itself, also makes no sense. How is it possible that the guy who invented Source Code didn't know that it could [[spoiler: create entire alternate realities and send the subject into them]]?
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*** Which, in and of itself, also makes no sense. How is it possible that the guy who invented Source Code didn't know that it could [[spoiler: create entire alternate realities and send the subject into them]]?them?
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* Are there two copies of Colter's consciousness in existence at the same time [[spoiler:in the alternate reality at the end of the movie (or in any of his Source Code excursions for that matter)? One in Sean's body and one in Colter's at the project's headquarters. Could he go talk to himself?]] What happens if the process gets repeated? Can he end up in [[spoiler:a parallel universe with almost all humans being controlled by Colter]]?
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* Are there two copies of Colter's consciousness in existence at the same time [[spoiler:in in the alternate reality at the end of the movie (or in any of his Source Code excursions for that matter)? One in Sean's body and one in Colter's at the project's headquarters. Could he go talk to himself?]] himself? What happens if the process gets repeated? Can he end up in [[spoiler:a a parallel universe with almost all humans being controlled by Colter]]?Colter?
*** They check everyone's ticket when they walk through checking tickets. The ticket checker isn't supposed to memorize everyone whose ticket he's already checked on the last pass.
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*** As noted above the logical result of this will be universes in which a string of major terrorist attacks/crimes/disasters were prevented by random civilians who are all versions of Colter (maybe they could start a support group) while the Source Code project isn't used, as every event it can be used on is "mysteriously" solved, that universe's Colter is kept in stasis on life support waiting for his turn.
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*** As noted above the logical result of this will be universes in which a string of major terrorist attacks/crimes/disasters were prevented by random civilians who are all versions of Colter (maybe they could start a support group) while the Source Code project isn't used, as every event it can be used on is "mysteriously" solved, that universe's Colter is kept in stasis on life support waiting for his turn.turn.
* Why does Colter's self-image have a significant amount of beard stubble? The last thing he remembers is being a soldier on active duty. Wouldn't he have been expected to keep himself shaved?
* Why does Colter's self-image have a significant amount of beard stubble? The last thing he remembers is being a soldier on active duty. Wouldn't he have been expected to keep himself shaved?
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*** As noted above the end result of this will be a universe in which a string of major terrorist attacks/crimes/disasters were prevented by random civilians who are all versions of Colter (maybe they could start a support group) while the Source Code project is never used, as there's never an event it can be used on, so it gets shut down and that universe's Colter draws the short straw and is, presumably, euthanized.
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*** As noted above the end logical result of this will be a universe universes in which a string of major terrorist attacks/crimes/disasters were prevented by random civilians who are all versions of Colter (maybe they could start a support group) while the Source Code project is never isn't used, as there's never an every event it can be used on, so it gets shut down and on is "mysteriously" solved, that universe's Colter draws the short straw and is, presumably, euthanized.is kept in stasis on life support waiting for his turn.
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** It's shown that in the alternate timeline the train never blew up so that is the first time we see the train, although whether he's averting a different disaster each time then living on in a different alternate universe in the body of his host is an interesting one
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** It's shown that in the alternate timeline the train never blew up so that is the first time we see the train, although whether he's averting a different disaster each time then living on in a different alternate universe in the body of his host is an interesting oneone.
*** As noted above the end result of this will be a universe in which a string of major terrorist attacks/crimes/disasters were prevented by random civilians who are all versions of Colter (maybe they could start a support group) while the Source Code project is never used, as there's never an event it can be used on, so it gets shut down and that universe's Colter draws the short straw and is, presumably, euthanized.
*** As noted above the end result of this will be a universe in which a string of major terrorist attacks/crimes/disasters were prevented by random civilians who are all versions of Colter (maybe they could start a support group) while the Source Code project is never used, as there's never an event it can be used on, so it gets shut down and that universe's Colter draws the short straw and is, presumably, euthanized.
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*** It seems likely that newly created universes will indeed create a version of Colter-in-Fentress'-body that will have no idea he's not the original. But this still won't result in All Colter universe because A: As noted above most people aren't a close enough match to be used by Colter, B: We don't know that every scenario will always end with Colter dying and ending up in another universe, C: Even if it does every time that happens the new universe will have a Source Code project that has yet to be used, as terrorist attacks keep being mysteriously thwarted by random civilians, meaning either the project will be shut down or Colter will die and be replaced by another test subject.
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**** Well, then it gets weird. Big deal. People think he's had some sort of bad shock, or just that he's gone nuts. But he has his sweetheart and he is, you know, ''alive''.
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* Is it just me, or is it implied that the "Goodwin helps Colter" is an infinite cycle? Colter is helped by Goodwin (who, you'll notice, isn't exactly perfectly calm in the beginning), gets into alternate timeline, sends message to Goodwin/2. Goodwin/2 helps Colter/2; he gets into an alternate timeline and messages Goodwin/3... et cetera. The only difference in the "first" run is that we don't get to see its beginning, and so assume it is... but it might have happened countless times before. The whole "everything will be OK" thing adds to this idea.
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* Is it just me, or is it implied that the "Goodwin helps Colter" is an infinite cycle? Colter is helped by Goodwin (who, you'll notice, isn't exactly perfectly calm in the beginning), gets into alternate timeline, sends message to Goodwin/2. Goodwin/2 helps Colter/2; he gets into an alternate timeline and messages Goodwin/3... et cetera. The only difference in the "first" run is that we don't get to see its beginning, and so assume it is... but it might have happened countless times before. The whole "everything will be OK" thing adds to this idea.idea.
** It's shown that in the alternate timeline the train never blew up so that is the first time we see the train, although whether he's averting a different disaster each time then living on in a different alternate universe in the body of his host is an interesting one
** It's shown that in the alternate timeline the train never blew up so that is the first time we see the train, although whether he's averting a different disaster each time then living on in a different alternate universe in the body of his host is an interesting one
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* Rutlege and Goodwin were convinced that the bomber was acting alone and not part of a cell, or at the very least they were the same person who intended to carry out the next attack. Colter never questioned this, so why didn't he make a note of everyone who got off at the stop and limit his investigation to them? Instead, he identifies potential suspects up to moments before the explosion. Even if the bomber had been one of those people and weren't working alone, the various intelligence agencies would only have a few hours to find a dead bomber's cohorts. Rutlege and Goodwin's only play would be to send Colter back into the Source Code and see if he can beat the information out of the bomber.
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* Rutlege and Goodwin were convinced that the bomber was acting alone and not part of a cell, or at the very least they were the same person who intended to carry out the next attack. Colter never questioned this, so why didn't he make a note of everyone who got off at the stop and limit his investigation to them? Instead, he identifies potential suspects up to moments before the explosion. Even if the bomber had been one of those people and weren't working alone, the various intelligence agencies would only have a few hours to find a dead bomber's cohorts. Rutlege and Goodwin's only play would be to send Colter back into the Source Code and see if he can beat the information out of the bomber.bomber.
* Is it just me, or is it implied that the "Goodwin helps Colter" is an infinite cycle? Colter is helped by Goodwin (who, you'll notice, isn't exactly perfectly calm in the beginning), gets into alternate timeline, sends message to Goodwin/2. Goodwin/2 helps Colter/2; he gets into an alternate timeline and messages Goodwin/3... et cetera. The only difference in the "first" run is that we don't get to see its beginning, and so assume it is... but it might have happened countless times before. The whole "everything will be OK" thing adds to this idea.
* Is it just me, or is it implied that the "Goodwin helps Colter" is an infinite cycle? Colter is helped by Goodwin (who, you'll notice, isn't exactly perfectly calm in the beginning), gets into alternate timeline, sends message to Goodwin/2. Goodwin/2 helps Colter/2; he gets into an alternate timeline and messages Goodwin/3... et cetera. The only difference in the "first" run is that we don't get to see its beginning, and so assume it is... but it might have happened countless times before. The whole "everything will be OK" thing adds to this idea.
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** Fake some sort of trauma, tell people you changed and had amnesia.
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** Easy enough: She gets on one station ahead of Sean. She's already had her ticket checked.
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** Easy enough: She gets on one station ahead of Sean. She's already had her ticket checked.checked.
* Rutlege and Goodwin were convinced that the bomber was acting alone and not part of a cell, or at the very least they were the same person who intended to carry out the next attack. Colter never questioned this, so why didn't he make a note of everyone who got off at the stop and limit his investigation to them? Instead, he identifies potential suspects up to moments before the explosion. Even if the bomber had been one of those people and weren't working alone, the various intelligence agencies would only have a few hours to find a dead bomber's cohorts. Rutlege and Goodwin's only play would be to send Colter back into the Source Code and see if he can beat the information out of the bomber.
* Rutlege and Goodwin were convinced that the bomber was acting alone and not part of a cell, or at the very least they were the same person who intended to carry out the next attack. Colter never questioned this, so why didn't he make a note of everyone who got off at the stop and limit his investigation to them? Instead, he identifies potential suspects up to moments before the explosion. Even if the bomber had been one of those people and weren't working alone, the various intelligence agencies would only have a few hours to find a dead bomber's cohorts. Rutlege and Goodwin's only play would be to send Colter back into the Source Code and see if he can beat the information out of the bomber.
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**** But all of those universes will spawn from the one where Colter took over Sean and saved everyone on the train. So, if there are only ever two Colters (the free one and the Project one), does that mean the real Sean suddenly does everything Colter did?
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**** Except we know that there is at least some difference in personalities. Christina mentions it. And a similar personality doesn't really matter. If Colter (as Sean) bumps into someone on the street and doesn't recognise him, it could get really weird. For example, if it was Sean's father or cousin, or his best friend.
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