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* What did Birkin's claw do to Ada in the Train Cabin to just render her unconscious, no serious wounding or scarring?
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* Okay, so there's a military quarantine around Raccoon City, the whole place is filled with zombies, and the whole place is gone to hell...but the Fax in the S.T.A.R.S. office still works? Wouldn't be so bad, except if you examine the radio equipment ''in the same room'', the character notes that it's useless to get a signal.
** Fax operates over a hard phone line. Radio operates over....radio. One ''can'' work while the other is out.
** It does add a FridgeLogic moment when you realize that ''the phone lines work.'' Even if only the fax could get through, a message from the RPD sent back to the FBI's number should get some attention.
*** Considering the military has surrounded Raccoon City and Umbrella is being shut down shortly after the incident in the city, it's a good chance messages ''did'' get out.
*** Of course, this just raises the question of why the FBI would bother sending a fax to an office in a building in a city they ''know'' is overrun with the Living Dead. Especially since the fax comes in when you attempt to leave the room on September 29th, several days after Raccoon City is overrun.
*** There's also another thing that should be taken to account: even though the station was overrun with zombies and creatures, there were still some humans in there. Unless you count Marvin Branagh and Brian Irons as zombies (yes, Marvin was bitten and slowly turning, but he was, in fact, still human when he is found). The fact is that though the station was overrun, there could be the possibility that the military suspected that there might be some more human survivors.
*** Never underestimate a bureaucracy. It could've taken weeks for information to be gathered and cleared to be sent to the RPD. Then, once it's cleared, the paper is put on some clerk's or intern's desk to be sent off, and he goes to fax it, just putting in the number and feeding the paper in without really paying attention to what he was sending and where because it's only one of a dozen such faxes he has to send out that day.

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* Okay, so there's a military quarantine around Raccoon City, the whole place is filled with zombies, and the whole place is gone to hell... but the Fax fax in the S.T.A.R.S. office still works? Wouldn't be so bad, except if you examine the radio equipment ''in the same room'', the character notes that it's useless to get a signal.
** Fax operates over a hard phone line. Radio operates over....over... radio. One ''can'' work while the other is out.
** It does add a FridgeLogic moment when you realize realise that ''the phone lines work.'' Even if only the fax could get through, a message from the RPD sent back to the FBI's number should get some attention.
*** ** Considering the military has surrounded Raccoon City and Umbrella is being shut down shortly after the incident in the city, it's there's a good chance messages ''did'' get out.
*** ** Of course, this just raises the question of why the FBI would bother sending a fax to an office in a building in a city they ''know'' is overrun with the Living Dead. Especially since the fax comes in when you attempt to leave the room on September 29th, several days after Raccoon City is overrun.
*** ** There's also another thing that should be taken to account: even though the station was overrun with zombies and creatures, there were still some humans in there. Unless you count Marvin Branagh and Brian Irons as zombies (yes, Marvin was bitten and slowly turning, but he was, in fact, still human when he is found). The fact is that though although the station was overrun, there could be the possibility that the military suspected that there might be some more human survivors.
*** ** Never underestimate a bureaucracy. It could've taken weeks for information to be gathered and cleared to be sent to the RPD. Then, once it's cleared, the paper is put on some clerk's or intern's desk to be sent off, and he goes to fax it, just putting in the number and feeding the paper in without really paying attention to what he was sending and where because it's only one of a dozen such faxes he has to send out that day.



* So at the beginning of Resident Evil 2 did the Raccoon Police Department mail Leon his uniform and sidearm? in most organizations you actually get fitted for that ''on'' your first day not before. On that note why was he issued with ''two'' police radios when A) He by no means needs two radios and B) He hasn't even turned up for work yet - why would they give him one in the first place?

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* So at the beginning of Resident Evil 2 the game did the Raccoon Police Department mail Leon his uniform and sidearm? in In most organizations you actually get fitted for that ''on'' your first day not before. On that note why was he issued with ''two'' police radios when A) He he by no means needs two radios and B) He he hasn't even turned up for work yet - why would they give him one in the first place?



** It would seem as if there was a drive to make STARS a far more official organization before it was disbanded though. The standardized Samurai Edge and Chris's green uniform from RE: Veronica seem to be a decent effort. Plus the SWAT team that replaced STARS all seem to wear the same blue uniform and use the same guns - maybe old Brian Irons was aware of the Federal investigations against him and was trying to make the RPD at least ''look'' professional. Although why he didn't start with removing the garish art adorning his station is anyone's guess.
** Leon's RPD markings all seem to be on his armored vest. Underneath he's just wearing a police blue jumpsuit. Its possible he just owned the suit and sidearm and the RPD mailed him a vest. As I understand it, some smaller police departments allow officers to carry their choice of weapons once it is approved, and he may have been on his way to do just that. As for the radios, I don't recall him using one before he jacks the police cruiser and that would presumably have radios in it.

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** It would seem as if there was a drive to make STARS a far more official organization organisation before it was disbanded though. The standardized standardised Samurai Edge and Chris's green uniform from RE: Veronica seem to be a decent effort. Plus the SWAT team that replaced STARS all seem to wear the same blue uniform and use the same guns - maybe old Brian Irons was aware of the Federal investigations against him and was trying to make the RPD at least ''look'' professional. Although why he didn't start with removing the garish art adorning his station is anyone's guess.
** I don't know that it's clear that there wasn't ''already'' a SWAT team in the RPD, with STARS being more specialised and SWAT just responding to your "garden variety" hostage, bombing and terrorist situations, as opposed to the SWAT team replacing STARS. Yes, the official wiki suggests the latter, but it isn't sourced from the games, and just having the two Alpha and Bravo teams seems a little too understaffed for emergencies which may happen in a city the size of Raccoon.
** Leon's RPD markings all seem to be on his armored armoured vest. Underneath he's just wearing a police blue jumpsuit. Its possible he just owned the suit and sidearm and the RPD mailed him a vest. As I understand it, some smaller police departments allow officers to carry their choice of weapons once it is approved, and he may have been on his way to do just that. As for the radios, I don't recall him using one before he jacks the police cruiser and that would presumably have radios in it.



** That explanation works for that game, whereas the other suggestions are valid for the original.



** Not only that, but VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis takes place chronologically before this game and Jilly V. visited the office to get some equipment of her own. How in gods name there is ''anything'' left for Claire and Leon to scavenge is seriously pushing suspension of disbelief.
** That's not quite true. Brad is still in S.T.A.R.S. and as per ''Outbreak'', the RPD is recruiting for the team. (Kevin Ryman flunked the entrance exam three times.) The presence of a magical respawning weapon in the S.T.A.R.S. weapon locker is weird, but the office would've still been in use for the recruitment process.
*** It's a weapons locker, it's probably full of weapons - and it would be just stupid for a single person to take a locker-full of guns with him. The rest is just gameplay and story segregation.
*** There is also the mention that Irons had been "rearranging" where weapons and ammo caches were stored. Yeah, Jill comes and takes magnum/grenade launcher, but when exactly did this rearranging occur? All of RE3 takes place over several days, and by the time this game starts, Irons has gone batshit psycho and intending for everyone to die, which is why he was rearranging locations of important stuff and sowing confusion. So it could have happened at any time.

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** Not only that, but VideoGame/ResidentEvil3Nemesis takes place chronologically before this game and Jilly V. visited the office to get some equipment of her own. How in gods god's name there is ''anything'' left for Claire and Leon to scavenge is seriously pushing suspension of disbelief.
** That's not quite true. Brad is still in S.T.A.R.S. and as per ''Outbreak'', the RPD is recruiting for the team. team (Kevin Ryman flunked the entrance exam three times.) times). The presence of a magical respawning weapon in the S.T.A.R.S. weapon locker is weird, but the office would've still been in use for the recruitment process.
*** ** It's a weapons locker, it's probably full of weapons - and it would be just stupid for a single person to take a locker-full of guns with him. The rest is just gameplay and story segregation.
*** ** There is also the mention that Irons had been "rearranging" where weapons and ammo caches were stored. Yeah, Jill comes and takes magnum/grenade the magnum or the grenade launcher, but when exactly did this rearranging occur? All of RE3 takes place over several days, and by the time this game starts, Irons has gone batshit psycho and is intending for everyone to die, which is why he was rearranging locations of important stuff and sowing confusion. So it could have happened at any time.



*** That doesn't work due to the fact that it's Claire who finds the grenade launcher; Leon finds either the shotgun or the Desert Eagle in the locker. So just to amend your idea slightly it makes a lot more sense if Jill comes along and chooses to take the Smith and Wesson revolver over the Desert Eagle because she prefers it (it might even have been her gun in the first place given how Chris and Barry seem like the sort of blokes who would own a DE.) leaving Claire to arrive after Leon and pick up the crossbow. It also makes far more sense you could fit two handguns alongside a crossbow as opposed to two grenade launchers.
*** You are correct. Let's see, Scenario A/B is Shotgun/G.Launcher, Scenario B/A is Crossbow/DE. Yeah, let's go with yours. Although this way means Jill finds a grenade launcher apparently being stored in an electrical substation, which is bizarre even for RE.

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*** That doesn't work due to the fact that it's Claire who finds the grenade launcher; Leon finds either the shotgun or the Desert Eagle in the locker. So just to amend your idea slightly it makes a lot more sense if Jill comes along and chooses to take the Smith and Wesson revolver over the Desert Eagle because she prefers it (it might even have been her gun in the first place given how Chris and Barry seem like the sort of blokes who would own a DE.) DE) leaving Claire to arrive after Leon and pick up the crossbow. It also makes far more sense you could fit two handguns alongside a crossbow as opposed to two grenade launchers.
*** You are correct. Let's see, Scenario A/B is Shotgun/G. Launcher, Scenario B/A is Crossbow/DE. Yeah, let's go with yours. Although this way means Jill finds a grenade launcher apparently being stored in an electrical substation, which is bizarre even for RE.RE.
*** But, the first game does show that Barry is fond of a S&W 44 revolver, but that also doesn't preclude him from liking other handguns.



* In the [=ClaireA/LeonB=] scenario, [[spoiler:Sherry is implanted with embryos by her mutated father]]. It's established by a document Claire finds that if the embryos are not genetically compatible with the host, they'll [[ChestBurster chew their way out]] and grow into a G-Imago. If they ''are'' compatible, however, they slowly transform the host's cells, turning the host into a true G-Virus monster like William. So [[spoiler:the vaccine Claire gives to Sherry will stop her from becoming an eyeball-covered monstrosity... but since it will stop the cellular infection, won't it just ''cause the embryos to chest burst?'']]
** The Devil vaccine causes the virus to go dormant in the host's system. Chest bursting only happens if you're incompatible with the G Monster who infected you; it won't just spawn a G baby.

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* In the [=ClaireA/LeonB=] scenario, [[spoiler:Sherry is implanted with embryos by her mutated father]]. It's established by a document Claire finds that if the embryos are not genetically compatible with the host, they'll [[ChestBurster chew their way out]] and grow into a G-Imago. If they ''are'' compatible, however, they slowly transform the host's cells, turning the host into a true G-Virus monster like William. So [[spoiler:the vaccine Claire gives to Sherry will stop her from becoming an eyeball-covered monstrosity... but since it will stop the cellular infection, won't it just ''cause the embryos to chest burst?'']]
chestburst?'']]
** The Devil vaccine causes the virus to go dormant in the host's system. Chest bursting Chestbursting only happens if you're incompatible with the G Monster who infected you; it won't just spawn a G baby.



*** Wait, that would mean the G-Virus ''actually works'' for it's intended purpose. Miracles will never cease.
*** Erm, the only reason the G-Virus hasn't blown sherry up or mutated her at all is because it was there WITH the Devil Vaccine. No Devil in there and Sherry is growing claws and eyeballs.

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*** ** Wait, that would mean the G-Virus ''actually works'' for it's intended purpose. Miracles will never cease.
*** ** Erm, the only reason the G-Virus hasn't blown sherry Sherry up or mutated her at all is because it was there WITH the Devil Vaccine. No Devil in there and Sherry is growing claws and eyeballs.



** You're not wrong, but this is gameplay and story segregation. Mr.X is exclusive to the B scenario; but to get either B scenario in the first place you have to play through the Mr.X-less A scenario. It would make sense in the story department, but in the gameplay proper, you'll never encounter Mr.X in the first scenario, so there would be no point in telling the player about him. If they had thought of doing that back during development, it'd be admonished today to do that as it would seem like a build up to nothing. However, as of typing this, they could've used it to foreshadow what the player would experience in the B scenario, though I'd imagine that'd kill the shock factor of Mr.X showing up. Birkin is much harder to justify. Though I'd imagine that again as Leon never meets him game proper, why tell the player in the Claire scenario if there's never going to be a meeting or a payoff?

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** You're not wrong, but this is gameplay and story segregation. Mr. X is exclusive to the B scenario; but to get either B scenario in the first place you have to play through the Mr.Mr. X-less A scenario. It would make sense in the story department, but in the gameplay proper, you'll never encounter Mr. X in the first scenario, so there would be no point in telling the player about him. If they had thought of doing that back during development, it'd be admonished today to do that as it would seem like a build up to nothing. However, as of typing this, they could've used it to foreshadow what the player would experience in the B scenario, though I'd imagine that'd kill the shock factor of Mr. X showing up. Birkin is much harder to justify. Though I'd imagine that again as Leon never meets him game proper, why tell the player in the Claire scenario if there's never going to be a meeting or a payoff?



** "Pear shaped" doesn't mean the whole place is a shitshow -- it just means things were on the way down. As for the remake, the explanation there is that Leon was ''supposed'' to start work a while before the game starts, but got a call telling him not to come then, at which point things went south, and the cops never bothered to take it down.

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** "Pear shaped" doesn't mean the whole place is a shitshow -- it just means things were on the way down. As for the remake, the explanation there is that Leon was ''supposed'' to start work a while before the game starts, but got a call telling him not to come quite then, at which point things went south, and the cops never bothered to take it down.



* So ignoring that Irons is a BadBoss and the police station was converted from an art museum, who's the idiot that decided that the cell block should be connected to the parking garage instead of the main building? That's pretty much just asking for a criminal's accomplices to storm in there and make a quick getaway. Or hell, they don't even need to do ''that'' much, just steal a key from the guards and make your way into the sewer opening! If there wasn't a zombie apocalypse, Racoon City would have more escaped convicts than Gotham!
** On the contrary, next to the parking garage is the most logical place to put a jail, since it's a quick trip from the arresting officer's car to the jail cells (this troper has visited at least one police station where a garage is visible from the entrance to a jail section). And as for storming the jail, the hypothetical raiders would have to get past several likely locked security gates and at minimum several armed security personnel, not to mention other cops are only a few minutes, if not seconds away. And depending on their resources, they may not know about the sewer entrance in the kennel to use it as an escape route. Most criminals aren't supervillains or TheChessmaster, you know.

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* So ignoring that Irons is a BadBoss and the police station was converted from an art museum, who's the idiot that decided that the cell block should be connected to the parking garage instead of the main building? That's pretty much just asking for a criminal's accomplices to storm in there and make a quick getaway. Or hell, they don't even need to do ''that'' much, just steal a key from the guards and make your way into the sewer opening! If there wasn't a zombie apocalypse, Racoon Raccoon City would have more escaped convicts than Gotham!
** On the contrary, next to the parking garage is the most logical place to put a jail, since it's a quick trip from the arresting officer's car to the jail cells (this troper has (I've visited at least one police station where a garage is visible from the entrance to a jail section). And as for storming the jail, the hypothetical raiders would have to get past several likely locked security gates and at minimum several armed security personnel, not to mention other cops are only a few minutes, if not seconds away. And depending on their resources, they may not know about the sewer entrance in the kennel to use it as an escape route. Most criminals aren't supervillains or TheChessmaster, you know.





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** It's also stated in later games that Claire ditched Leon and Sherry to find Chris. The government found and detained Leon and Sherry since they're survivors of a T-Virus outbreak and were concerned that they were carrying the virus or seen things they weren't supposed to. Naturally, they'd test them both and would have discovered the immunity inside Sherry.

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** It's also stated in later games that Claire ditched Leon and Sherry to find Chris. The government found and detained Leon and Sherry since they're survivors of a T-Virus outbreak and were concerned that they were carrying one of the virus viruses or had seen things they weren't supposed to. Naturally, they'd test them both and would have discovered the immunity inside Sherry.Sherry.
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** [[OccamsRazor Those weren't G-Virus samples the rats consumed at all, but T-Virus samples that just happened to be in the case]]. Note the color of the spilled liquids (G was purple, T was green).

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** [[OccamsRazor Those weren't G-Virus samples the rats consumed at all, but T-Virus samples that just happened to be in the case]]. Note the color colour of the spilled liquids (G was purple, T was green).



** T-Virus may be targeted to infect certain species which Umbrella saw as viable for bioweapons, and on other species, it either has no effect (besides creating carriers), unknown symptoms (but not zombification/mutation, if we don't see those) or it kills them outright.
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** Well first off, Ben IS something of a coward, so he's probably not thinking that far ahead. But his plan is basically to sit it out for a short while till the military comes to clean up the whole mess. It's a short sighted, panicky plan yes. BUT Ben does have the key to his cell, so he can leave any time rather than being so stupid he locked himself up to die (Irony). Granted, I can't help but think that if the game was rendered today, we'd see a case of bottled water and foodstuffs stashed in the corner of the cell.
*** Good news! The game was rendered today! Bad news: Ben was thrown in the cell against his will this time, meaning he still didn't get a chance to bring supplies.

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** Well first off, Ben IS something of a coward, so he's probably not thinking that far ahead. But his plan is basically to sit it out for a short while till the military comes to clean up the whole mess. It's a short sighted, panicky plan yes. BUT Ben does have the key to his cell, so he can leave any time rather than being so stupid he locked himself up to die (Irony).(''irony''). Granted, I can't help but think that if the game was rendered today, we'd see a case of bottled water and foodstuffs stashed in the corner of the cell.
*** Good news! [[VideoGame/ResidentEvil2Remake The game was rendered today! today!]] Bad news: Ben was thrown in the cell against his will this time, meaning he still didn't get a chance to bring supplies. supplies.
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*** Except the locket doesn’t have the G-virus inside anymore. It’s more a fancy key for the devil vaccine. Heck, Leon doesn’t even need it to obtain the G-virus once he reach the lab.
*** The Remake changed the Tyrant's goal. Instead of looking for the locket/sample, he's there to eliminate any and all witnesses.

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*** ** Except the locket doesn’t have the G-virus inside anymore. It’s more a fancy key for the devil vaccine. Heck, Leon doesn’t even need it to obtain the G-virus once he reach the lab.
*** ** The Remake changed the Tyrant's goal. Instead of looking for the locket/sample, he's there to eliminate any and all witnesses.
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** On the contrary, next to the parking garage is the most logical place to put a jail, since it's a quick trip from the arresting officer's car to the jail cells (this troper has visited at least one police station where a garage is visible from the entrance to a jail section). And as for storming the jail, the hypothetical raiders would have to get past several likely locked security gates and at minimum several armed security personnel, not to mention other cops are only a few minutes, if not seconds away. And depending on their resources, they may not know about the sewer entrance in the kennel to use it as an escape route. Most criminals aren't supervillains or TheChessmaster, you know.
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**** There's also another thing that should be taken to account: even though the station was overrun with zombies and creatures, there were still some humans in there. Unless you count Marvin Branagh and Brian Irons as zombies (yes, Marvin was bitten and slowly turning, but he was, in fact, still human when he is found). The fact is that though the station was overrun, there could be the possibility that the military suspected that there might be some more human survivors.


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* So ignoring that Irons is a BadBoss and the police station was converted from an art museum, who's the idiot that decided that the cell block should be connected to the parking garage instead of the main building? That's pretty much just asking for a criminal's accomplices to storm in there and make a quick getaway. Or hell, they don't even need to do ''that'' much, just steal a key from the guards and make your way into the sewer opening! If there wasn't a zombie apocalypse, Racoon City would have more escaped convicts than Gotham!
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** This still raises the question of why there are no mutant rats running around. We see other sewer animals growing in size like cockroaches and the alligator, so what's the deal? Was Capcom afraid that having sewer rats grow in size due to a green chemical would get them sued by [[Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Mirage Studios]]?
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** Well first off, Ben IS something of a coward, so he's probably not thinking that far ahead. But his plan is basically to sit it out for a short while till the military comes to clean up the whole mess. It's a short sighted, panicky plan yes. BUT Ben does have the key to his cell, so he can leave any time rather than being so stupid he locked himself up to die (Irony) Granted, I can't help but think that if the game was rendered today, we'd see a case of bottled water and foodstuffs stashed in the corner of the cell.

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** Well first off, Ben IS something of a coward, so he's probably not thinking that far ahead. But his plan is basically to sit it out for a short while till the military comes to clean up the whole mess. It's a short sighted, panicky plan yes. BUT Ben does have the key to his cell, so he can leave any time rather than being so stupid he locked himself up to die (Irony) (Irony). Granted, I can't help but think that if the game was rendered today, we'd see a case of bottled water and foodstuffs stashed in the corner of the cell.
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** It hasn't been a few weeks, 7 days at most since the outbreak really started. While things were slowly starting to break down as soon as early September (with reports of attacks and Raccoon Hospital experiencing cases of the t-Virus), the outbreak proper didn't start until September 22nd, when Umbrella operatives assassinated Birkin and took the G-Virus. The game starts on September 29, a week in. Its likely through all of the chaos and disorder, the party decorations were put up some time prior to the 22nd, and just never taken down in the interim

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** It hasn't been a few weeks, 7 days at most since the outbreak really started. While things were slowly starting to break down as soon as early September (with reports of attacks and Raccoon Hospital experiencing cases of the t-Virus), T-Virus), the outbreak proper didn't start until September 22nd, when Umbrella operatives assassinated Birkin and took the G-Virus. The game starts on September 29, a week in. Its likely through all of the chaos and disorder, the party decorations were put up some time prior to the 22nd, and just never taken down in the interim
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** You're not wrong, but this is gameplay and story segregation. Mr.X is exclusive to the B scenario; but to get either B scenario in the first place you have to play through the Mr.X-less A scenario. It would make sense in the story department, but in the gameplay proper, you'll never encounter Mr.X in the first scenario, so there would be no point in telling the player about him. If they had thought of doing that back during development, It'd be admonished today to do that as it would seem like a build up to nothing. However, as of typing this, they could've used it to foreshadow what the player would experience in the B scenario, though I'd imagine that'd kill the shock factor of Mr.X showing up. Birkin is much harder to justify. Though I'd imagine that again as Leon never meets him game proper, why tell the player in the Claire scenario if there's never going to be a meeting or a payoff?

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** You're not wrong, but this is gameplay and story segregation. Mr.X is exclusive to the B scenario; but to get either B scenario in the first place you have to play through the Mr.X-less A scenario. It would make sense in the story department, but in the gameplay proper, you'll never encounter Mr.X in the first scenario, so there would be no point in telling the player about him. If they had thought of doing that back during development, It'd it'd be admonished today to do that as it would seem like a build up to nothing. However, as of typing this, they could've used it to foreshadow what the player would experience in the B scenario, though I'd imagine that'd kill the shock factor of Mr.X showing up. Birkin is much harder to justify. Though I'd imagine that again as Leon never meets him game proper, why tell the player in the Claire scenario if there's never going to be a meeting or a payoff?
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*** There is also the mention that Irons had been "rearranging" where weapons and ammo caches were stored. Yeah, Jill comes and takes magnum/grenade launcher, but when exactly did this rearranging occur? All of RE3 takes place over several days, and by the time this game starts, Irons has gone batshit psycho and intending for everyone to die, which is why he was rearranging locations of important stuff and sowing confusion. So it could have happened at any time.
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** It's also stated in later games that Claire ditched Leon and Sherry to find Chris. Thee government found and detained Leon and Sherry since they're survivors of a T-Virus outbreak and were concerned that they were carrying the virus or seen things they weren't supposed to. Naturally, they'd test them both and would have discovered the immunity inside Sherry.

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** It's also stated in later games that Claire ditched Leon and Sherry to find Chris. Thee The government found and detained Leon and Sherry since they're survivors of a T-Virus outbreak and were concerned that they were carrying the virus or seen things they weren't supposed to. Naturally, they'd test them both and would have discovered the immunity inside Sherry.

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* This is about the One Shot Demo of the remake. (I think. I watched it on Maximilian_Dood's Website/YouTube channel and haven’t played it myself yet.) Specifically, that one part where Leon helps the officer out from the barricade only for his lower half to be missing. He wasn't under there for that long and yet the Zombies managed to eat about half of him. Are the Zombies part piranha!? Is it really possible that they... “ate” him that fast? Did something else happen like they just chewed through his midsection and pulled his lower half away? Or maybe [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Leon accidentally pulled him away from his Lower section when he went to help the man?]] [[NightmareFuel Ugh. I'm getting chills from thinking this deeply about it.]]
** They didn't eat the guy, the zombie horde basically ''ripped the guy's lower half off''. Depending on the size of the group, it wouldn't take that much effort.
*** In fact, you do find the remains of his lower half in the full game when coming from the other side.

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[[folder: How did they eat him so fast!?]]
* This is about the One Shot Demo of the remake. (I think. I watched it on Maximilian_Dood's Website/YouTube channel and haven’t played it myself yet.) Specifically, that one part where Leon helps the officer out from the barricade only for his lower half to be missing. He wasn't under there for that long and yet the Zombies managed to eat about half of him. Are the Zombies part piranha!? Is it really possible that they... “ate” him that fast? Did something else happen like they just chewed through his midsection and pulled his lower half away? Or maybe [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Leon accidentally pulled him away from his Lower section when he went to help the man?]] [[NightmareFuel Ugh. I'm getting chills from thinking this deeply about it.]]
** They didn't eat the guy, the zombie horde basically ''ripped the guy's lower half off''. Depending on the size of the group, it wouldn't take that much effort.
*** In fact, you do find the remains of his lower half in the full game when coming from the other side.

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* So in RE2 Remake, after saving Leon from a zombie by decapitating it using the shutter, Leon asks Marvin " Does anyone know what started this? " . And Marvin's response is " Not a clue. " . Am I the only one who found Marvin's this line weird? Like, this line makes him sounds like he forgot that he wrote a diary in Outbreak File 2 Desperate Times scenario ( Hell, even Rita is mentioned and given a surname. ) plus this diary connects well with og RE2, in that game he mentions to Leon or Claire how Raccoon City incident is related to the events of RE1 and how none believed STARS. Btw ı dont think Claire is the one who met him cause her reply to Marvin ( That's great news. ) makes her sound like she doesnt care about searching Chris anymore and this defeats the purpose of Resident Evil Code Veronica. Not saying ı dislike this Marvin btw, ı really liked him and see him as an improvement over the OG marvin even with his weird reply.
** It's possible Marvin is referring specifically to what the hell is going on in Raccoon and how THAT got started. He doesn't know how the virus got unleashed on a major population center. It's also possible that he's glossing it over for an outsider -- now's not really the time to get into the whole mansion incident and what transpired.
** With Claire i think it was supposed to be interpreted as her trying to be possitive and not freak out over the fact she came all the way to Raccoon city for nothing. Or "That's great" could be interpreted as "That's great that my brother is safe from this mess."
** It's a retcon. The remake is a new canon that overwrites the old canon that comes before it. The best way to look at this is that anything that contradicts the remake, like the diary, should now be treat as non-canon, while anything that doesn't should be left alone.
* How did the zombie at the beginning of the remake get back up to bite the trucker? I know the T-Virus is supposed to burn out the part of your nervous system that responds to pain, but undead or not, an 18-wheeler going fast enough would turn anyone in front of it into jelly.
** He activates his brake, that's why the zombie managed to get up and bite him. Also zombies might have different health from each other, for example sometimes it takes less headshot to kill a zombie in RE2 remake, sometimes it takes more.
* Another question about RE2 remake. So during the sewer section, after jumping down to the area where plugs are used; Claire sees Sherry talking to Annette. Annette says " Why didnt you stay in the house? It was safe there. " to Sherry followed by more conversation between the 2 followed by Sherry collapsing due to her infection. Am I the only one who found this line weird? Like, in Darkside Chronicles, you can unlock 3 files that are phone conversations between Annette and Sherry. One of the conversations has Annette wanting Sherry to leave her school, grab the pendant in their house and hide in RPD while staying away from everyone. Due to this file, ı found Annette's this line in RE2 remake weird.
** Possibly retconned along with other things?
*** I dont think retconning that makes sense. Annette wanting Sherry to take shelter in RPD without contacting anyone makes more sense and fits better into RE2's story. ( Plus at the start of RE2 Remake, you can hear the RPD announcer telling people to take shelter at RPD, something that was used from Darkside Chronicles. ) I know that Annette isnt the best mother to Sherry since she focuses on her work just like her husband but still. I guess ı'll just accept that dialogue non-canon and accept some small plot features of OG RE2 and those 3 phone calls more canon now. ( The canon events of RE2 are a combination of all 8 scenarios along with some scenes / events from Memories Of A Lost City. So the story still works fine enough. )
** Given that both Annette and William were high up in Umbrella's research labs, and if we take the amounts of money William was funneling to Irons, I think it's safe to say that if you combine both of their incomes, they're making big bucks, so it's probably that they have a house in a gated community outside the city proper with lots of security measures. Either that, or there was a fortified panic room in their house in the city. Both of which would be well within their characters, given their (justified) paranoia that Umbrella wants to take the G-Virus.
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[[folder: Why is Mr. X fighting HUNK?]]
* They are both supposed to be on the same side. Couldn't the programmers at Umbrella just program the damn thing to recognize and cooperate with a friendly? They can make it follow an order as complex as recognizing a specific virus and retrieving it, how hard can recognizing uniform possibly be?
** Given how Umbrella seems to operate, it wouldn't unexpected if there were rival factions in the company responsible for the deployment of the security squad sent after Birkin and later the Tyrants; they may also not want to consider compensation for HUNK after he escapes from Raccoon City post-viral outbreak. Umbrella is, after all, the company who said 'OK' when Birkin and Wesker murdered Marcus and took his job.
** If I remember right, one of the games (I think darkside chronicles) states that the BOWs weren't responding correctly to Umbrella's commands and given how badly things go shit, its likely that Mr. X, while not rogue, is being rather broad with its directive.
** Tyrants are not that smart. In the original, it was implied to be after the G-virus sample carried by either Ada in Leon B or Sherry in Claire B, so going after HUNK, who had such a sample, made sense. However, it’s heavily implied in the remake that Mr.X mission is simply there to kill anyone who might make it out of the city alive with intel on Umbrella. From there, it’s easy to imagine anyone that’s not currently a zombie is fair game.
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[[folder: Who is delivering the pizzas?!]]
* Over in NEST, in the security office you may find an open pizza box (with half of what looks like a pepperoni in there). Now, considering that NEST is supposed to be Umbrella's secret lab that nobody is supposed to know exists, one must ask the question: who is delivering the pizzas?
** Probably a pizzaria on Umbrellas payroll.
** Given how many businesses Umbrella has branched out into [[note]]keep in mind umbrella corporations are a parent company with multiple subordinate companies[[/note]] it's not too much of a stretch to believe Umbrella OWNS a pizza company that answers to them. Though it is somewhat amusing to think that there's either A) a pizza delivery man with enough security clearance to go into Umbrella's top secret research facility, or B) Umbrella has some security guard with high level security clearance that doubles as a pizza delivery man (one can only imagine how much this pains his dignity). The more mundane answer might be that Umbrella orders the pizza, tells the delivery guy to meet them out in the middle of nowhere, and then the scientists/security staff walk it in. Sorry Umbrella scientists, our secrecy requires you to microwave that pizza if it gets cold, is probably what Umbrella told them.
** Here's an even easier answer: did you forget there's a cafeteria that you go into this time?
*** Yeah, I've been in a lot of corporate cafeterias that have pizza day, complete with a cardboard box.
** Or one of the lab workers bought it at a pizzeria and brought it down with them, no delivery needed.
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[[folder: who is Claire talking to on the payphone in the remake?]]
* This bothered me, in Claire's opening in the RE2 remake she's shown talking to someone on the payphone outside the gas station. She even says "I'll be there as soon as I find Chris", but it's never revealed who she's talking to. We know both their parents are dead (as revealed later in the game by Claire herself later in the game). So who is she talking to? I know it's a small and unimportant question in the grand scheme of things but it bothered this troper to no end.
** Most likely a friend of hers, or her roommate. Claire is a college student, and she took time off from university to search for her brother, so she most likely let said person know what she was up to.
** Supported by the detail that Clair starts with a note from her friend as a file.
** Thank you! I was not aware of this note, I'll look for it on my next Claire playthrough (just speed ran it)
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[[folder: Ada's Hacking Tool]]
* If Ada's hacking tool can unlock the NEST elevator, why didn't she use it unlock the RPD garage?
** You'll notice that Leon's never around when she uses the hacking tool. She probably didn't want to pull it out in his presence to avoid him asking uncomfortable questions that would lead to her cover being blown. As for why she'd bother waiting for him to track down the card and return, she apparently wants to keep him handy because he's better armed than her and she could use the extra firepower.
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[[folder:Stationary Fire]]
* Why doesn't the fire from the wrecked helicopter spread and burn down the whole station?
** It hit an exterior wall and punched through, which is letting in the torrential rain from outside. Most of the area it's in is also wood, which contrary to popular belief, tends to scorch instead of burn, at least right away. Between the rain, the area it struck, and the relative speed with which it was put out, it's probably enough to assume that the fire didn't have the chance to really spread, and that the gas tank was either nearly empty or got ruptured in the crash.
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[[folder: Incendiary Rounds]]
* When would police ever need 40mm incendiary grenades?
** I was assuming they were non-lethal rounds that had been repacked with improvised napalm.
** It's possible that those are confiscated from terrorists. The reason why S.T.A.R.S exists in the first place is that Raccoon has a terrorism problem prior to the event of the series. It's not a stretch to assume that the incendiary rounds were procured by the terrorists and later taken by the RPD as evidence.
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[[folder: Lethal Weapons For A Capture Mission]]
* If the USS team's mission was to detain Dr. Birkin and retrieve the G-Virus, why were they armed with lethal weapons only?
** For everyone who *wasn't* Dr. Birkin. You can find an email from Birkin to Irons on Irons's desk as Claire that suggests Birkin had started keeping his own private security at the NEST, most of whom were likely corrupt cops on Irons's payroll.
** Umbrella knows that William is contacting the US government. The USS may be packing heat in case the government deploys some special force unit to stop them, which actually happens in canon.
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[[folder:Leon's Unbreakable Spine]]
* Shouldn't Leon's spine be a broken, mangled mess after being repeatedly slammed into a steel grating with enough force to bend and break it?
** Seems like the frame on the grate gave way before Leon did. He's also got a weird habit of not dying when things slam him into other things, though.
*** It's just plot armor. Resident Evil franchise relies to them a lot, especially the later titles. ( I dont see this as a bad thing though. ) Although ı must mention that Claire is the one who canonically fought Birkin's 1st form instead of Leon. It's confirmed in Degeneration CGI movie.
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** It's a retcon. The remake is a new canon that overwrites the old canon that comes before it, so the diary that Marvin writes is no longer canon.

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** It's a retcon. The remake is a new canon that overwrites the old canon that comes before it, so the diary it. The best way to look at this is that Marvin writes is no longer canon.anything that contradicts the remake, like the diary, should now be treat as non-canon, while anything that doesn't should be left alone.
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** It's possible that those are confiscated from terrorists. The reason why S.T.A.R.S exists in the first place is that Raccoon has a terrorism problem prior to the event of the series. It's not a stretch to assume that the incendiary rounds were procured by the terrorists and later taken by the RPD as evidence.
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** Umbrella knows that William is contacting the US government. The USS may be packing heat in case the government deploys some special force unit to stop them, which actually happens in canon.

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