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** That order didn't work. In the next scene she wakes up at three in the morning, not "when it's light enough to read".
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* Does anyone else find it strange in the movie that in a film with a bunch of other British actors (Carry Elwes, Hugh Dancy, Eric Idle, Lucy Punch, etc.) that use their natural accents, Minnie Driver uses an American accent as Mandy? Are they doing it since Vivica Fox is Lucinda, so they are implying that the Fairies' dialect has a more North American tone, or is it because Ella is played by an American, and they wanted her to fit in with Ella and her Parents, given Ella's father is played by an Irishman but he speaks with an American accent as well?

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*** [[Tropers/{{Loracarol}} This troper]] agrees, and always wondered why her Mother didn't just say something like "I order you to live the rest of your life as though you were never given the Gift of Obediance- unless it saves you life" or something like that. That way, she was still obey people ''sometimes'', just like a normal human would- but she wouldn't be ''compelled'' to all the time, like the 'gift' said to.

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*** [[Tropers/{{Loracarol}} This troper]] agrees, and always wondered why her Mother Why didn't her Mother just say something like "I order you to live the rest of your life as though you were never given the Gift of Obediance- unless it saves you life" or something like that. that? That way, she was still obey people ''sometimes'', just like a normal human would- but she wouldn't be ''compelled'' to all the time, like the 'gift' said to.


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* Many readers have wondered why no one tries saying "Ella, only obey orders if you want to from now on, no matter what orders you may get in the future" as an order.
** More FridgeLogic could explain this: Lucinda knew that someone would try that (in her mind, she probably saw them as misguided or some such), so she made sure the "blessing" couldn't be contradicted so easily.
*** In the book it is shown that new orders can override old ones. If memory serves correctly, Lucinda orders her to be happy with her curse and it does last for a while until Mandy orders her to feel how ever she wants about it. Though it does seem to fight itself for a while until the new order takes over.
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* Another movie only question, since Ella’s dad is actually a good parent in the film (unlike the book) why didn’t Ella’s mom and Mandy tell him about the curse. He would of an ally to Ella in the film, even if he couldn’t do much.

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* Another movie only question, question: since Ella’s dad is actually a good parent in the film (unlike the book) why didn’t Ella’s mom and Mandy tell him about the curse. curse? He would of be an ally to Ella in the film, even if he couldn’t do much.
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* Another movie only question, since Ella’s dad is actually a good parent in the film (unlike the book) why didn’t Ella’s mom and Mandy tell him about the curse. He would of an ally to Ella in the film, even if he couldn’t do much.
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** Surely someone, at some point would've told her to "go f-- herself". How did the curse work if the "order" is anatomically impossible?
*** Her hands work fine. I mean, masturbation is considered sex with yourself (or sex with someone you love). But in general I would assume an order like "fly away" or "speak a foreign language" would just bounce off.
*** Considering that with the wording of 'go fuck yourself' as a command, she would leave (presumably for somewhere private), and... well, her hands work just fine. And considering that that's a pretty rude thing to say to someone, she could justify her sudden exit as storming off in anger and needing some time to calm down. It would be awkward and annoying for Ella, but not exactly impossible.
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** She might not want Olga to figure out how deep the order thing actually goes, since Olga doesn't know that Ella is compelled to obey her. Olga thinks she's just giving Ella a directive as a parental figure to a child, and Mandy would have no authority to override ''that''; her giving Ella a contradictory directive despite this would potentially tip Olga off that there's more to it. Plus, if Mandy told Ella not to, Olga would probably just tell Ella to not listen to Mandy and do what Olga told her to, making Mandy's order pointless.
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** Most likely, Lucinda put a caveat in the "blessing" to prevent it from being overridden so easily. Mandy or Ella's mother might have even tried this before Ella was old enough to remember and found that it didn't work.

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** Most likely, Lucinda put a caveat in the "blessing" to prevent it from being overridden so easily. easily, especially given how hard Mandy or and Ella's mother fought her on it. One of them might have even tried this before Ella was old enough to remember and found that it didn't work.
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*** The movie blurs the lines on this (i.e. "bite me"), but the book is explicitly set in a different cultural context which doesn't seem to have these kinds of expressions. This isn't to say they have no expressions that could be construed as directives, but probably not sexual ones at least.
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** Most likely, Lucinda put a caveat in the "blessing" to prevent it from being overridden so easily. Mandy or Ella's mother might have even tried this before Ella was old enough to remember and found that it didn't work.
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* Movie-only plot hole: When Olga tells Ella to end her friendship with Areida, Mandy is ''right there'', and she knows of the curse, but instead of ordering Ella not to she simply protests to Olga. ''Why?'' The solution was so easy.
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* If new orders override/cancel previous orders, why didn't Ella just tell Char to say, "Tell me what's bothering you" after his uncle ordered her to kill him? That way, Char's order for her to tell him would've overridden Edgar's not to tell anyone.

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*** Considering that with the wording of 'go fuck yourself' as a command, she would leave (presumably for somewhere private), and... well, her hands work just fine. And considering that that's a pretty rude thing to say to someone, she could justify her sudden exit as storming off in anger and needing some time to calm down. It would be awkward and annoying for Ella, but not exactly impossible.
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**** because Lucinda would still have shown up at the house and told her to go, like she did with the tree situation.

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