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** Or the fact that someone with a greedy streak might be the one to find Bolt, and could hit up the studio for a ''very'' large reward for his return.
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** We’re talking about a TV show, not a movie. They probably didn’t have the budget or resources to implement a convincing CGI dog who’s prominent in every episode and has to do a variety of spectacular stunts. Penny also might not be as good an actor when she has to work alongside a dog that isn’t there during filming. And there was no reason for them to try for a CGI dog when a real one works just as well. The only one who took issue with replacing Bolt with a real dog was Penny, for sentimental reasons. It’s never hinted that the studio had trouble finding a replacement.
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** Wouldn't be the only hideously unethical thing going on with this production, at any rate.
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** The goal, presumably, is to have this other dog take Bolt's place without the audience being aware anything has changed. If Penny puts up "Lost Dog" posters for Bolt and otherwise advertises their disappearance, that's not gonna work.
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*** Who's to say he does do everything exactly right? Remember that mook that took himself out by [[WhatAnIdiot facepalming while his taser-gauntlet was on]]? What if Bolt was originally scripted to knock that guy out, but missed his cue, so the actor had to improvise?

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*** Who's to say he does do everything exactly right? Remember that mook that took himself out by [[WhatAnIdiot facepalming while his taser-gauntlet was on]]? on? What if Bolt was originally scripted to knock that guy out, but missed his cue, so the actor had to improvise?
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** Could be a case of the straw that killed the camel. Considering what we already see with child stars IRL, a lot of their parents had breaking points.

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***He could have gotten overnighted.

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***The "Crazy Hamster Lady" (as I'll call her) seems to be a hoarder and Rhino going missing from her care (sure, he's safe and sound) could be TruthInTelevision, as animal hoarders can really have their pets die or go missing right from under their noses and they wouldn't notice. Since Rhino was already outside when he meets Bolt and Mittens, ya'll could argue that he's more or less not CHL's pet and it's not like CHL would know the difference betwixt either hamster.
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**Could be a case of the straw that killed the camel. Considering what we already see with child stars IRL, a lot of their parents had breaking points.
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** Off-hand guess? The Director probably refused because it "wouldn't be real enough!".
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* What was stopping the studio from using CGI to create Bolt? Based on the devices seen used by people, it can be assumed the setting is around the middle to late 2000s. Around this time, live-action action movies already utilize fully digital characters that blend seamlessly.
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** As is shown later, Bolt was intent on dragging Mittens across the country even after she told him how to get to Hollywood. He probably wouldn't have just let her loose had she told him to show someone his collar, and getting caught with Bolt and taken to the pound is the absolute last thing Mittens she wants to happen to her.
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** Mindy the network representative is apparently not aware of Bolt's EnforcedMethodActing until the show's creator tells her about it, so it seems that it isn't public knowledge either. If an ordinary person were to approach Bolt and get attacked, the creators and network could be open to a lawsuit and their unethical manipulation of Bolt could
be exposed, possibly getting them fired or even getting the show completely shut down.

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** Mindy the network representative is apparently not aware of Bolt's EnforcedMethodActing until the show's creator tells her about it, so it seems that it isn't public knowledge either. If an ordinary person were to approach Bolt and get attacked, the creators and network could be open to a lawsuit and their unethical manipulation of Bolt could
could be exposed, possibly getting them fired or even getting the show completely shut down.
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** Mindy the network representative is apparently not aware of Bolt's EnforcedMethodActing until the show's creator tells her about it, so it seems that it isn't public knowledge either. If an ordinary person were to approach Bolt and get attacked, the creators and network could be open to a lawsuit and their unethical manipulation of Bolt could
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* A bunch of plot holes bother me about Bolt. Let's tick them off.
** Why is Penny forced to choose between using another actor to play the Bolt character and searching for her dog? ''These are not mutually exclusive decisions''.
*** They don't want her focusing on it because they feel it will hurt her acting ability. Also: the main exec's crazy.
*** And they had to get the next episode filmed.
*** Also, the studio execs are jerks who clearly have little care for Penny and Bolt's well being. They locked Bolt alone in a camper and stopped him from seeing Penny to keep Bolt from realizing things. There were dozens of ways that could've been handled otherwise and be much less stressful on them both, but they didn't care. They had a replacement Bolt, they didn't have a replacement Penny, so as far as they were concerned, Bolt was expendable and they probably had Penny on contract of some sort.
** Bolt has a collar with his address on it. Even Mittens notices, but not a single human that meets him, including the ''animal shelter workers'', ever check it for ID or try to contact the studio.
*** Only the dog catcher saw him, but he broke out before he could be taken the actual shelter. It's possible that they would've called had he arrived there. None of the other humans got a close enough look at him to notice what his tag said.
*** What about Mittens, though? She wanted to get rid of Bolt in the beginning - why not just tell him what the tag around his neck was and that he could get home if he showed it to some human?
** As mentioned earlier, the studio loses the star of its television show and doesn't even try to retrieve him? Why is Penny printing out "Lost Dog" posters instead of the executives putting out an urgent press release?
*** They're on a tight schedule, and it's implied they had that replacement Bolt in reserve; it's more efficient to just start using him right away than wait for Bolt to be found and probably have to cough up a reward.
*** That and they treated Bolt rather poorly, they locked him in a trailer alone for probably the first time in years without Penny and didn't care. We see in the ending just how much Bolt cares about Penny, they probably know it too as that's the main way they get Bolt to do anything, by making him think Penny is in harms way. Thus they really don't care at all about Bolt.
** No fire prevention system on the set? Seriously? I'm pretty sure they're required by law to have sprinklers ready in case of an actual fire.
*** It might have malfunctioned...
*** Or you know, as is sadly the case in real life, they either had it shut off or it was never installed just to cut costs.
** Okay, it's bad and evil to go to Hollywood and not live a normal life like a "real" person in which you strip yourself of anything special or unique. Anybody else catching how terribly ironic it is to have a character voiced by ''Miley Cyrus'' giving us the "Child acting is BAD!" spiel? And isn't therefore horrible and bad that the replacement Penny and Bolt actors are going through the same thing?
*** Penny's life was with her family and Bolt. When Bolt was taken, the execs ''didn't care''. That was the bad. One could reasonably assume that A)Penny got a more well-rounded life and B)the new child actor and Bolt-replacement have lives outside the set. The new Bolt is going to know the story isn't real, so the charade doesn't have to be kept up 24/7 anymore--and that was all that was wrong with was Penny and Bolt were going through.
*** Also, the Hollywood executives are clearly the villains, so it's not 'child acting is bad', it's more the executives are treating them badly. Penny might have gone on to get other jobs as an actress, but she quit really not because she had to act but because they were being treated poorly. So the real point is they were leaving an abusive situation to live life on their own.
** Yes, I know it's a cartoon, but that still doesn't explain how Bolt suddenly can climb a chair and karate chop someone. You cannot train a dog to do that, period.
*** You can in cartoon land.
*** RuleOfCool and RuleOfFunny

* Do they really transport entire ''houses'' on the backs of trucks (like the one Bolt and Mittens traveled in, where Mittens shows Bolt what life's like in a normal house)? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life (though I've never been to America) - I can't think how it could possibly work.

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* A bunch of plot holes bother me about Bolt. Let's tick them off.
**
Why is Penny forced to choose between using another actor to play the Bolt character and searching for her dog? ''These are not mutually exclusive decisions''.
*** ** They don't want her focusing on it because they feel it will hurt her acting ability. Also: the main exec's crazy.
*** ** And they had to get the next episode filmed.
*** Also, the studio execs are jerks who clearly have little care for Penny and Bolt's well being. They locked Bolt alone in a camper and stopped him from seeing Penny to keep Bolt from realizing things. There were dozens of ways * Mittens notices early on that could've been handled otherwise and be much less stressful on them both, but they didn't care. They had a replacement Bolt, they didn't have a replacement Penny, so as far as they were concerned, Bolt was expendable and they probably had Penny on contract of some sort.
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Bolt has a collar with his address identification on it. Even Mittens notices, but not a single human that meets him, including the ''animal shelter workers'', ever check it for ID or try to contact the studio.
*** Only the dog catcher saw him, but he broke out before he could be taken the actual shelter. It's possible that they would've called had he arrived there. None of the other humans got a close enough look at him to notice what his tag said.
*** What about Mittens, though? She wanted to get rid of Bolt in the beginning -
So why not just didn't she tell him what the tag around his neck was and that he could get home if he showed to go show it to some human?
human in order to get back to Penny?
** As mentioned earlier, is shown later, the last thing Mittens wants to
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studio loses the star of its television show and doesn't even try to retrieve him? Why is Penny printing out "Lost Dog" posters instead of the executives putting out an urgent press release?
*** ** They're on a tight schedule, and it's implied they had that replacement Bolt in reserve; it's more efficient to just start using him right away than wait for Bolt to be found and probably have to cough up a reward.
*** That and they treated ** Also, Bolt rather poorly, they locked him is not a celebrity; he's just a dog who's trained to act things out in a trailer alone for probably TV show. As an analogy, if the first time in years without Penny dog from ''Dog with a Blog'' got loose one day and didn't care. We see in come back, I don't think you'd expect the ending Disney Channel to put out a press release and keep production on hold when they could just how much Bolt cares about find a replacement. As for Penny, as far as the production staff are aware, her only time spent with Bolt is when they were filming the events of the show -- Penny says she's never taken him home since they started -- so they probably know it too as that's weren't able to accept the main way they get Bolt to do anything, by making him think Penny is in harms way. Thus they really don't fact that she could care at all about Bolt.
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him ''that much.''

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No fire prevention system on the set? Seriously? I'm pretty sure they're required by law to have sprinklers ready in case of an actual fire.
*** It might have malfunctioned...
*** Or you know, as is sadly
** They might've disabled the case in real life, system so that they either had it shut off or could shoot the scene with the torches, if it was never ever installed just to cut costs.
** Okay,
at all. Just because it's bad and evil to go to Hollywood and not live a normal life like a "real" person in which you strip yourself of anything special or unique. Anybody else catching how terribly ironic it is to have a character voiced by ''Miley Cyrus'' giving us the "Child acting is BAD!" spiel? And isn't therefore horrible and bad that the replacement Penny and Bolt actors are going through the same thing?
*** Penny's life was with her family and Bolt. When Bolt was taken, the execs ''didn't care''. That was the bad. One could reasonably assume that A)Penny got a more well-rounded life and B)the new child actor and Bolt-replacement have lives outside the set. The new Bolt is going to know the story isn't real, so the charade
illegal doesn't have to be kept up 24/7 anymore--and that was all that was wrong with was Penny and Bolt were going through.
*** Also, the Hollywood executives are clearly the villains, so it's not 'child acting is bad', it's more the executives are treating them badly. Penny might have gone on to get other jobs as an actress, but she quit really not because she had to act but because
mean they were being treated poorly. So the real point is they were leaving an abusive situation to live life on their own.
** Yes, I know it's a cartoon, but that still doesn't explain how Bolt suddenly can climb a chair and karate chop someone. You cannot train a dog to
wouldn't do that, period.
*** You can in cartoon land.
*** RuleOfCool and RuleOfFunny

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* Do they really transport entire ''houses'' on the backs of trucks (like the one Bolt and Mittens traveled in, where Mittens shows Bolt what life's like in a normal house)? I've never seen or heard of that before in my life (though I've never been to America) - I can't think how it could possibly work.house)?



** And it's not the entire house. It's half the house. The other half is on another truck, probably close behind the first. They're pretty common in the Mid-West, at least.
** It's fairly common here, although they have to do it after 7pm and the trucks can't go more than about 7 kilometres an hour, and they clear the roads specially for it. I don't know about America, but in New Zealand it would have certainly been faster for Bolt and Mittens to walk than hitch a ride on the truck.
*** Here in America, those trucks drive about as fast as any other 18 wheeler.
*** It depends on if the house in question is specifically designed for it. Moving an ordinary building (house or not) is a time consuming, slow, and complicated process that requires the roads to be cleared, can't move more than a few mph/kph, etc. However, there are "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin mobile homes]]" that are specifically designed to be moved, and have a built-in trailer hitch, suspension, and axles. These are about as complicated to move as your standard 18-wheeler. (Well, it might be a ''little'' more complicated, since they're classified as "Oversize Loads," with all the extra red tape that implies.) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home The Other Wiki has more info]].
*** The one in the movie isn't a mobile home. A mobile home is something that's designed to be lived in on the road--there would be a family in it, traveling, and stopping nightly. In the film, it's clearly just being transported by an 18-wheeler, and therefore is a prefab house.
*** Must be a dialect thing, because I (and everyone I know) have always called them "mobile homes," whether they're meant to be lived in while traveling or not. To-may-to, to-mah-to, point is, yes, in [[{{Eagleland}} the US]], we do routinely "transport entire houses on the backs of trucks" -- and it's not as complicated as in New Zealand.
** This Troper was once stuck on the insterstate behind a identical truck, sadly there was no actor dog inside, but yes, they exist and drive along the interstate like any normal truck.

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** And it's not the entire house. It's half the house. The other half is on another truck, probably close behind the first. They're pretty common in the Mid-West, at least.
** It's fairly common here, although they have to do it after 7pm and the trucks can't go more than about 7 kilometres an hour, and they clear the roads specially for it. I don't know about America, but in New Zealand it would have certainly been faster for Bolt and Mittens to walk than hitch a ride on the truck.
*** Here in America, those trucks drive about as fast as any other 18 wheeler.
*** It depends on if the house in question is specifically designed for it. Moving an ordinary building (house or not) is a time consuming, slow, and complicated process that requires the roads to be cleared, can't move more than a few mph/kph, etc. However, there are "[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin mobile homes]]" that are specifically designed to be moved, and have a built-in trailer hitch, suspension, and axles. These are about as complicated to move as your standard 18-wheeler. (Well, it might be a ''little'' more complicated, since they're classified as "Oversize Loads," with all the extra red tape that implies.) [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home The Other Wiki has more info]].
*** The one in the movie isn't a mobile home. A mobile home is something that's designed to be lived in on the road--there would be a family in it, traveling, and stopping nightly. In the film, it's clearly just being transported by an 18-wheeler, and therefore is a prefab house.
*** Must be a dialect thing, because I (and everyone I know) have always called them "mobile homes," whether they're meant to be lived in while traveling or not. To-may-to, to-mah-to, point is, yes, in [[{{Eagleland}} the US]], we do routinely "transport entire houses on the backs of trucks" -- and it's not as complicated as in New Zealand.
** This Troper was once stuck on the insterstate behind a identical truck, sadly there was no actor dog inside, but yes, they exist and drive along the interstate like any normal truck.




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** Even if he's not strictly well-fed, it's doubtful he'd ever gone close to a full day without food, which is what he was experiencing then.

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