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*** And, who's to say people even think Superman ''has'' a secret identity? For all most people know, Supes just flies around hero-ing 24/7.

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Why do the bad guys insist on making green kryptonite bullets to kill Superman? That wouldn't work. It's been shown repeatedly that Superman being weakened by green K energy is a gradual process. Green kryptonite doesn't just shut his powers off. Batman had a green K ring and remarked that hitting Superman was like hitting granite and if he hit him much harder he's break his hand. So it takes a least a few minute for green K to weaken superman to the point where he's vulnerable to conventional firearms. Now think of a bullet. At the speed it moves and the amount of time it would be near Superman before impact means that it wouldn't weaken Superman enough to penetrate his skin never mind muscle and bone. At best it would leave a mark, maybe draw blood, and feel like a bee sting. Only a gold kryptonite bullet would work because it's power is to explicitly turn his abilities off instantly.




** This may explain why Superman does his absolute best [[ThouShaltNotKill to not kill]]: he can see every micron of damage that his actions would cause, resulting in incredible levels of empathy and understanding.

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** This may explain why Superman does his absolute best [[ThouShaltNotKill to not kill]]: he can see every micron of damage that his actions would cause, resulting in incredible levels of empathy and understanding.understanding.

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** This statement could both reference people in general or it could also be a refernece to himself as by saving him and sending him to Earth, his parents gave Earth its greatest champion.

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** This statement could both reference people in general or it could also be a refernece reference to himself as by saving him and sending him to Earth, his parents gave Earth its greatest champion.

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* Superman's adherence to a [[ThouShaltNotKill no-kill rule]] has a very good mundane explanation: as far he's concerned he's not above the law, and as the law bans killing unless in self-defense he won't kill as long as the villain isn't a clear deadly threat that cannot be stopped by any other means... And for Superman, that pretty much means Darkseid.

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* Superman's adherence to a [[ThouShaltNotKill no-kill rule]] has a very good mundane explanation: as far he's concerned he's not above the law, and as the law bans killing unless in self-defense he won't kill as long as the villain isn't a clear deadly threat that cannot be stopped by any other means... And for Superman, [[StoryBreakerPower Superman]], that pretty much means Darkseid.
Darkseid and Doomsday.

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* Superman's adherence to a [[ThouShaltNotKill no-kill rule]] has a very good mundane explanation: as far he's concerned he's not above the law, and as the law bans killing unless in self-defense he won't kill as long as the villain isn't a clear deadly threat that cannot be stopped by any other means... And for Superman, that pretty much means Darkseid.
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Why do the bad guys insist on making green kryptonite bullets to kill Superman? That wouldn't work. It's been shown repeatedly that Superman being weakened by green K energy is a gradual process. Green kryptonite doesn't just shut his powers off. Batman had a green K ring and remarked that hitting Superman was like hitting granite and if he hit him much harder he's break his hand. So it takes a least a few minute for green K to weaken superman to the point where he's vulnerable to conventional firearms. Now think of a bullet. At the speed it moves and the amount of time it would be near Superman before impact means that it would weaken Superman enough to penetrate his skin never mind muscle and bone. At best it would leave a mark, maybe draw blood, and feel like a bee sting. Only a gold kryptonite bullet would work because it's power is to explicitly turn his abilities off instantly.


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Why do the bad guys insist on making green kryptonite bullets to kill Superman? That wouldn't work. It's been shown repeatedly that Superman being weakened by green K energy is a gradual process. Green kryptonite doesn't just shut his powers off. Batman had a green K ring and remarked that hitting Superman was like hitting granite and if he hit him much harder he's break his hand. So it takes a least a few minute for green K to weaken superman to the point where he's vulnerable to conventional firearms. Now think of a bullet. At the speed it moves and the amount of time it would be near Superman before impact means that it would wouldn't weaken Superman enough to penetrate his skin never mind muscle and bone. At best it would leave a mark, maybe draw blood, and feel like a bee sting. Only a gold kryptonite bullet would work because it's power is to explicitly turn his abilities off instantly.

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!!!Fridge Logic
Why do the bad guys insist on making green kryptonite bullets to kill Superman? That wouldn't work. It's been shown repeatedly that Superman being weakened by green K energy is a gradual process. Green kryptonite doesn't just shut his powers off. Batman had a green K ring and remarked that hitting Superman was like hitting granite and if he hit him much harder he's break his hand. So it takes a least a few minute for green K to weaken superman to the point where he's vulnerable to conventional firearms. Now think of a bullet. At the speed it moves and the amount of time it would be near Superman before impact means that it would weaken Superman enough to penetrate his skin never mind muscle and bone. At best it would leave a mark, maybe draw blood, and feel like a bee sting. Only a gold kryptonite bullet would work because it's power is to explicitly turn his abilities off instantly.

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** This may explain why Superman does his absolute best [[ThouShaltNotKill to not kill]]: he can see every micron of damage that his actions would cause, resulting in incredible levels of empathy and understanding.

!!Films
!!!FridgeBrilliance:
* The first three Film/{{Superman}} films comprise a single narrative {{arc}} that explores the theme of the Superman/Clark Kent duality through the character’s romantic relationships. In ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'', reporter ComicBook/LoisLane develops a crush on Superman, but otherwise looks down her nose at Clark Kent. In ''Film/SupermanII'', Lois learns that Superman and Clark is the same person. She becomes his lover, but before their relationship can be consummated, Superman is required to renounce his powers. This means that Lois ends up being stuck with Clark, even though her true feelings were for Superman. This puts a great deal of strain on their relationship, as is evidenced by Lois’ dismay when Clark is brutally beaten by a bully. Realizing that the relationship is unfeasible, Superman (after regaining his powers) erases Lois’s memories of their relationship and moves on. In ''Film/SupermanIII'', Clark reconnects with his school friend ComicBook/LanaLang. Unlike Lois, Lana seems to genuinely like Clark for who he is, respecting him for his honesty and gentleness. She does not seem to be particularly impressed by the idea of Superman, although her young son is a big fan. Indeed, Lana seems to intuit that Clark and Superman is the same person, but seems to go along with the pretense for the sake of her son. When Superman is exposed to the synthetic kryptonite created by Gus Gorman, it results in a change of behavior, which reveals that the Superman persona is his weaker half. Superman visits Lana’s house as a special treat for her son, but seems to spend most of his time hitting on Lana. He also drinks, destroys public property and engages in other petty anti-social behaviors. This behavior continues until Clark Kent extracts himself as a separate person and kills his Superman half, proving himself the stronger. In this sense, the struggle between Clark and Superman, which has persisted through the three films, is resolved with Clark becoming the ascendant persona.
* Consider the scene where Clark first shows up at the Daily Planet and Lois takes note of his strange, folksy mannerisms. The easy assumption is that Clark (or at least the surface personality constructed for the secret identity) is just that wholesome and old fashioned. But consider that he has spent the last twelve years completely isolated in the Fortress of Solitude. It's possible that it isn't just a front -- Clark Kent seems old fashioned because he's literally more than a decade behind the times.
** When you take into account that the movie was scripted and filmed from 1977 till 1978 you realize that Kent went into seclusion by 1965-1966, before the summer of love and all the hippie crap came out, so it does help explain Clark Kent's quaintness.
* When Henry Cavill was announced as the new Superman, a bit of a fuss was made over a British actor playing such an intrinsically American character. However, look at the film (and in most cases, TV) adaptations of other Kryptonians: in most cases, they speak with a British accent. Presumably, Kal-El would have grown up to be Krypton's version of British, but having been raised in Kansas, speaks with an American accent, (usually) champions American ideals, etc. So in a way, having a British actor for Supes makes a lot of sense. Time will tell how Kryptonians are portrayed in ''Man of Steel,'' however.
** While there have been complaints about Superman having no one to punch in some movies, Superman is showing countering acts of nature, perhaps to establish that he operates at a level above the "common" superhero.
* In ''{{Film/Superman}}'', Superman starts making the headlines everywhere in Metropolis, including the Daily Planet ("Caped Wonder Stuns City!"). Perry White, naturally, doesn't like that the ''Planet'' doesn't have anything the other papers don't, so he demands an exclusive. One or more of his reporters must interview Superman at once -- it'll be "the single most important interview since... God talked to Moses!". I remembered the story of Moses was an influence on Superman's origins!
* In ''{{Film/Superman}}'', many people believe that Superman was exerting force on the Earth, causing it to spin backwards and reverse time, but it was most likely the other way around. Superman achieved sufficient speed to time travel, and the Earth was spinning backwards because he reversed time.
** The intent seems pretty clearly that the Earth's rotation is reversed. In your analysis, why would he need to stop and fly in the direction of normal rotation a few times? And, if simply going fast enough was the idea, it would have been better communicated if he went with the rotation, but the Earth started going backward anyway.
* In the second film, it seems odd that a) Miss Teschmacher would still help Lex after he tried to kill her mother and b) Lex would still keep her around after she foiled his plan. But, there's a fairly obvious romantic undertone to their interactions. That's plain. What's less plain is what I only picked up from The Richard Donner Cut. There's a line in which Lexi implies he'll knock out her teeth for what he perceived as an insult. With this in mind, we can look back at some dialogue from the first movie, especially when he straight-up calls her an idiot on the level of Otis or pimps her out to further his plan. My conclusion: theirs was an abusive relationship, to which people are known to return despite every logical reason being against it.

!!!FridgeLogic:
* The line "It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's ''Superman!''" becomes very odd when you consider the fact that there's no reason for anyone to get that excited about a bird or a plane.
** Because that's not what the line means, and the delivery tends to be off in imitations. If you listen to the original, the bird and plane bits aren't delivered with the emphasis that an exclamation point implies. The full line is, "Look, up in the sky!" then ''someone else'' says, "It's a bird," then someone else says, "It's a plane," then the first person says, "No, it's Superman!" They're not excited that it's a bird or a plane, the idea is they can't recognize that it's Superman right away and are guessing.
* In the restored ''Superman II'', Lois tricks Supes into dropping the mask by firing a blank at him. Wouldn't he at least have felt a bullet tap him?
** Might have been too shocked by Lois' [[RefugeInAudacity outrageous act]] to try to notice.
** But shouldn't he have been able to see through the gun and know it's a blank?
*** He has to consciously use X-Ray vision, it's not always on.
*** Except she's using a ''revolver'' and blanks don't look like normal bullets. He should easily be able to see the difference by looking at the chambers, hell, you can see for yourself the damn thing isn't loaded if you watch carefully.
** When an apologetic Superman takes Lois for a high-altitude "joyride" in ''Returns'', she should (at least) be quite uncomfortably chilly, but he's got it covered:
--->'''Lois:''' I had forgotten [[RequiredSecondaryPowers how warm you are]].
** If Krypton's sun really did go supernova (rather than Krypton itself exploding, as in the comics) wouldn't it have disintegrated all traces of the planet, leaving no kryptonite to wind up on Earth?
*** I'm no scientist, but aren't all heavy metals (presumably including Kryptonite) actually ''[[StarPower created]]'' by [[FridgeBrilliance supernovas]]?
** In the museum exhibit in ''Returns'', there's a chemical makeup given for the Kryptonite meteorite. Would it really have been that hard for the genius Lex Luthor to synthesize his own?
*** To answer both questions: kryptonite is a product of nuclear fusion of what is left of Krypton. I doubt the extreme environment needed for its creation is commercially available.
*** One wonders if that list includes "tar".
** In Superman Returns:
*** Kitty dumps out the extra crystals Lex had planned on using. He couldn't get them in time before the rock they were on fell into the water. Shouldn't they have repeated the "new continent" thing?
*** "All they need is water...Like sea-monkeys". I think they are just stuck in a crack in the continent and thrown into space with the rest.
*** It is never made clear (or even suggested) that all of Superman's crystals cause the "new continent" thing. The crystals Lex was carrying around were Superman's information crystals - like the hard drives for the fortress of solitude computer. It would make sense if the "new continent" crystal was a one of a kind crystal Lex had somehow made using the technology in the fortress.
*** Lex vaguely described how he was going to keep the world's governments off his back, but from what we see, there was little chance of that happening. It was him, his girl, and three goons. They didn't even have food and water, much less a reconstructed high-tech civilization. A single U.S. Army chopper with a single squad of soldiers could have dispatched them with ease.
*** Another righteous kill for SEAL Team 6!
*** That U.S. Army chopper -- and its comrades -- would, like most of the world's militaries, be a bit more pressed in dealing with the massive natural disasters and humanitarian crises that would result from a completely new continent restructuring the face of the planet and devouring most of the pre-existing continents, causing entire cities to collapse and entire nations to fall apart in the process to worry about five people on the new continent.
*** The kryptonian crystals have almost infinite possibilities and could do just about anything; I'm guessing Lex figured out a few functions other than growing continents.
*** Alternately--it was a stupid plan and Luthor hadn't really thought it through.
** So, Superman wasn't fast enough to stop both rockets, yet he ''was'' fast enough to spin around the Earth a hundred times in a few minutes? Kinda negates even needing to turn back time in the first place.
*** When he is chasing the missiles, he's inside the atmosphere, when he travels back in time, he goes to outer space. It is possible if you want to theorize that way, that him reaching subluminal speeds inside the atmosphere might set it on fire; besides, he catches the first missile and DRIVES IT OUT TO SPACE; and he prevents a lot of damage in real time. He just fails to reach lois lane in time (he even manages to save jimmy) and that is what drives him to try the time travel gambit; he Is superman, he will set it right, all of it. By the way, even tough Metropolis is an expy of New York, it's not the same city so he wasn't anywhere near either missile, and he still managed to go from outer atmosphere to california; that is, the opposite side of the country in enough time to save everybody (including LIFTING the whole state).
* This can be confusing, so stay with me. Both Superman IV and Superman Returns treat the theatrical version of Superman II (with the memory-erasing kiss) as canonical, despite not holding each other so. In IV, we see that simply seeing Clark switch over to his Superman persona can completely undo the effect of the kiss. Is it impossible that the way the kiss works crosses the divided continuity? In which case, Lois would remember everything upon seeing Jason use super-powers.
** Also, there's been some contention over the implication that Lois knows his secret again upon bringing Clark the cape in IV. But she's a smart girl who recently had a sort of double-date scenario set up with Clark and Superman, both of whom disappeared, but only one offered an explanation. Surely she put the clues together and the kiss was negated.
* In Superman III, what exactly is Superman's motivation while being "evil"? Almost immediately after being commended and praised by people, he neglects situations that could use his help, corrects one of humanity's "mistakes" (the Leaning Tower), and (here's the kicker) basically mocks the Olympics, where the world's greatest athletes all come together to compete. He's come to view himself as far above the measly humans he'd previously sworn to protect, to have an inflated ego. This explains why the evil half is represented by Superman, while the good is Clark. It is as an alien visitor with phenomonal powers that he became the selfish idol; it is as the small-town guy with good values that he became the hero.

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** This may explain why Superman does his absolute best [[ThouShaltNotKill to not kill]]: he can see every micron of damage that his actions would cause, resulting in incredible levels of empathy and understanding.

!!Films
!!!FridgeBrilliance:
* The first three Film/{{Superman}} films comprise a single narrative {{arc}} that explores the theme of the Superman/Clark Kent duality through the character’s romantic relationships. In ''Film/SupermanTheMovie'', reporter ComicBook/LoisLane develops a crush on Superman, but otherwise looks down her nose at Clark Kent. In ''Film/SupermanII'', Lois learns that Superman and Clark is the same person. She becomes his lover, but before their relationship can be consummated, Superman is required to renounce his powers. This means that Lois ends up being stuck with Clark, even though her true feelings were for Superman. This puts a great deal of strain on their relationship, as is evidenced by Lois’ dismay when Clark is brutally beaten by a bully. Realizing that the relationship is unfeasible, Superman (after regaining his powers) erases Lois’s memories of their relationship and moves on. In ''Film/SupermanIII'', Clark reconnects with his school friend ComicBook/LanaLang. Unlike Lois, Lana seems to genuinely like Clark for who he is, respecting him for his honesty and gentleness. She does not seem to be particularly impressed by the idea of Superman, although her young son is a big fan. Indeed, Lana seems to intuit that Clark and Superman is the same person, but seems to go along with the pretense for the sake of her son. When Superman is exposed to the synthetic kryptonite created by Gus Gorman, it results in a change of behavior, which reveals that the Superman persona is his weaker half. Superman visits Lana’s house as a special treat for her son, but seems to spend most of his time hitting on Lana. He also drinks, destroys public property and engages in other petty anti-social behaviors. This behavior continues until Clark Kent extracts himself as a separate person and kills his Superman half, proving himself the stronger. In this sense, the struggle between Clark and Superman, which has persisted through the three films, is resolved with Clark becoming the ascendant persona.
* Consider the scene where Clark first shows up at the Daily Planet and Lois takes note of his strange, folksy mannerisms. The easy assumption is that Clark (or at least the surface personality constructed for the secret identity) is just that wholesome and old fashioned. But consider that he has spent the last twelve years completely isolated in the Fortress of Solitude. It's possible that it isn't just a front -- Clark Kent seems old fashioned because he's literally more than a decade behind the times.
** When you take into account that the movie was scripted and filmed from 1977 till 1978 you realize that Kent went into seclusion by 1965-1966, before the summer of love and all the hippie crap came out, so it does help explain Clark Kent's quaintness.
* When Henry Cavill was announced as the new Superman, a bit of a fuss was made over a British actor playing such an intrinsically American character. However, look at the film (and in most cases, TV) adaptations of other Kryptonians: in most cases, they speak with a British accent. Presumably, Kal-El would have grown up to be Krypton's version of British, but having been raised in Kansas, speaks with an American accent, (usually) champions American ideals, etc. So in a way, having a British actor for Supes makes a lot of sense. Time will tell how Kryptonians are portrayed in ''Man of Steel,'' however.
** While there have been complaints about Superman having no one to punch in some movies, Superman is showing countering acts of nature, perhaps to establish that he operates at a level above the "common" superhero.
* In ''{{Film/Superman}}'', Superman starts making the headlines everywhere in Metropolis, including the Daily Planet ("Caped Wonder Stuns City!"). Perry White, naturally, doesn't like that the ''Planet'' doesn't have anything the other papers don't, so he demands an exclusive. One or more of his reporters must interview Superman at once -- it'll be "the single most important interview since... God talked to Moses!". I remembered the story of Moses was an influence on Superman's origins!
* In ''{{Film/Superman}}'', many people believe that Superman was exerting force on the Earth, causing it to spin backwards and reverse time, but it was most likely the other way around. Superman achieved sufficient speed to time travel, and the Earth was spinning backwards because he reversed time.
** The intent seems pretty clearly that the Earth's rotation is reversed. In your analysis, why would he need to stop and fly in the direction of normal rotation a few times? And, if simply going fast enough was the idea, it would have been better communicated if he went with the rotation, but the Earth started going backward anyway.
* In the second film, it seems odd that a) Miss Teschmacher would still help Lex after he tried to kill her mother and b) Lex would still keep her around after she foiled his plan. But, there's a fairly obvious romantic undertone to their interactions. That's plain. What's less plain is what I only picked up from The Richard Donner Cut. There's a line in which Lexi implies he'll knock out her teeth for what he perceived as an insult. With this in mind, we can look back at some dialogue from the first movie, especially when he straight-up calls her an idiot on the level of Otis or pimps her out to further his plan. My conclusion: theirs was an abusive relationship, to which people are known to return despite every logical reason being against it.

!!!FridgeLogic:
* The line "It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's ''Superman!''" becomes very odd when you consider the fact that there's no reason for anyone to get that excited about a bird or a plane.
** Because that's not what the line means, and the delivery tends to be off in imitations. If you listen to the original, the bird and plane bits aren't delivered with the emphasis that an exclamation point implies. The full line is, "Look, up in the sky!" then ''someone else'' says, "It's a bird," then someone else says, "It's a plane," then the first person says, "No, it's Superman!" They're not excited that it's a bird or a plane, the idea is they can't recognize that it's Superman right away and are guessing.
* In the restored ''Superman II'', Lois tricks Supes into dropping the mask by firing a blank at him. Wouldn't he at least have felt a bullet tap him?
** Might have been too shocked by Lois' [[RefugeInAudacity outrageous act]] to try to notice.
** But shouldn't he have been able to see through the gun and know it's a blank?
*** He has to consciously use X-Ray vision, it's not always on.
*** Except she's using a ''revolver'' and blanks don't look like normal bullets. He should easily be able to see the difference by looking at the chambers, hell, you can see for yourself the damn thing isn't loaded if you watch carefully.
** When an apologetic Superman takes Lois for a high-altitude "joyride" in ''Returns'', she should (at least) be quite uncomfortably chilly, but he's got it covered:
--->'''Lois:''' I had forgotten [[RequiredSecondaryPowers how warm you are]].
** If Krypton's sun really did go supernova (rather than Krypton itself exploding, as in the comics) wouldn't it have disintegrated all traces of the planet, leaving no kryptonite to wind up on Earth?
*** I'm no scientist, but aren't all heavy metals (presumably including Kryptonite) actually ''[[StarPower created]]'' by [[FridgeBrilliance supernovas]]?
** In the museum exhibit in ''Returns'', there's a chemical makeup given for the Kryptonite meteorite. Would it really have been that hard for the genius Lex Luthor to synthesize his own?
*** To answer both questions: kryptonite is a product of nuclear fusion of what is left of Krypton. I doubt the extreme environment needed for its creation is commercially available.
*** One wonders if that list includes "tar".
** In Superman Returns:
*** Kitty dumps out the extra crystals Lex had planned on using. He couldn't get them in time before the rock they were on fell into the water. Shouldn't they have repeated the "new continent" thing?
*** "All they need is water...Like sea-monkeys". I think they are just stuck in a crack in the continent and thrown into space with the rest.
*** It is never made clear (or even suggested) that all of Superman's crystals cause the "new continent" thing. The crystals Lex was carrying around were Superman's information crystals - like the hard drives for the fortress of solitude computer. It would make sense if the "new continent" crystal was a one of a kind crystal Lex had somehow made using the technology in the fortress.
*** Lex vaguely described how he was going to keep the world's governments off his back, but from what we see, there was little chance of that happening. It was him, his girl, and three goons. They didn't even have food and water, much less a reconstructed high-tech civilization. A single U.S. Army chopper with a single squad of soldiers could have dispatched them with ease.
*** Another righteous kill for SEAL Team 6!
*** That U.S. Army chopper -- and its comrades -- would, like most of the world's militaries, be a bit more pressed in dealing with the massive natural disasters and humanitarian crises that would result from a completely new continent restructuring the face of the planet and devouring most of the pre-existing continents, causing entire cities to collapse and entire nations to fall apart in the process to worry about five people on the new continent.
*** The kryptonian crystals have almost infinite possibilities and could do just about anything; I'm guessing Lex figured out a few functions other than growing continents.
*** Alternately--it was a stupid plan and Luthor hadn't really thought it through.
** So, Superman wasn't fast enough to stop both rockets, yet he ''was'' fast enough to spin around the Earth a hundred times in a few minutes? Kinda negates even needing to turn back time in the first place.
*** When he is chasing the missiles, he's inside the atmosphere, when he travels back in time, he goes to outer space. It is possible if you want to theorize that way, that him reaching subluminal speeds inside the atmosphere might set it on fire; besides, he catches the first missile and DRIVES IT OUT TO SPACE; and he prevents a lot of damage in real time. He just fails to reach lois lane in time (he even manages to save jimmy) and that is what drives him to try the time travel gambit; he Is superman, he will set it right, all of it. By the way, even tough Metropolis is an expy of New York, it's not the same city so he wasn't anywhere near either missile, and he still managed to go from outer atmosphere to california; that is, the opposite side of the country in enough time to save everybody (including LIFTING the whole state).
* This can be confusing, so stay with me. Both Superman IV and Superman Returns treat the theatrical version of Superman II (with the memory-erasing kiss) as canonical, despite not holding each other so. In IV, we see that simply seeing Clark switch over to his Superman persona can completely undo the effect of the kiss. Is it impossible that the way the kiss works crosses the divided continuity? In which case, Lois would remember everything upon seeing Jason use super-powers.
** Also, there's been some contention over the implication that Lois knows his secret again upon bringing Clark the cape in IV. But she's a smart girl who recently had a sort of double-date scenario set up with Clark and Superman, both of whom disappeared, but only one offered an explanation. Surely she put the clues together and the kiss was negated.
* In Superman III, what exactly is Superman's motivation while being "evil"? Almost immediately after being commended and praised by people, he neglects situations that could use his help, corrects one of humanity's "mistakes" (the Leaning Tower), and (here's the kicker) basically mocks the Olympics, where the world's greatest athletes all come together to compete. He's come to view himself as far above the measly humans he'd previously sworn to protect, to have an inflated ego. This explains why the evil half is represented by Superman, while the good is Clark. It is as an alien visitor with phenomonal powers that he became the selfish idol; it is as the small-town guy with good values that he became the hero.
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!!!Fridge Logic
* How the hell is Superman vulnerable to his own planet?
** We are also vulnerable to portions of our own planet that are radioactive.
*** Between ''Comicbook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths'' and ''The Comicbook/{{New 52}}'', it was established that part of the process of Krypton going [[EarthShatteringKaboom BOOM]] was internal chemo-nuclear reactions resulting in the formation of Kryptonite. The natives called it the Green Plague. The Comicbook/{{New 52}}'s take on it has yet to be revealed.
** Kryptonite has been subject to so much FridgeLogic over the years (like how you can just about buy it on any street corner on Earth by now, etc..) that it's best to mutter [[BellisariosMaxim Bellisario's Maxim]] and move on...
** Symbolism-He's an immigrant to America, kryptonite is the old country.
** [[DependingOnTheWriter Sometimes]] (most notably, its first ComicBook/PostCrisis appearance), kryptonite very painfully drains the solar energy from Superman's cells, hence why it weakens him as well as hurts him, and also why it glows. Of course, how this works opens up a whole new can of FridgeLogic.
* Every time Superman misses with his heat vision, it means he failed to look at the target.
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** Staying on the subject of Superman, ClarkKenting. When Clark takes Kara for a stroll in downtown Metropolis they come across the huge statue of Superman that once stood over his tomb ([[BackFromTheDead he got better]]). Kara sees this and says that it's no wonder he can just put on a pair of glasses and walk around; this is how the people of earth see him. They would never suspect he was the dorky kid from Kansas pounding a keyboard in the Daily Planet. --{{SD81}}

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** Staying on the subject of Superman, ClarkKenting. When Clark takes Kara for a stroll in downtown Metropolis they come across the huge statue of Superman that once stood over his tomb ([[BackFromTheDead he got better]]). Kara sees this and says that it's no wonder he can just put on a pair of glasses and walk around; this is how the people of earth see him. They would never suspect he was the dorky kid from Kansas pounding a keyboard in the Daily Planet. --{{SD81}}



** Um, {{Batgirl1}} has her own ideas about Superman's pose. Note that In the older comics, when Superman was mainly Superman and Clark was just a disguise, his standard pose was [[DynamicAkimbo arms-akimbo]]. In the post-reboot comics, where Superman is Clark, he defaults to arm-crossing. Arms-Akimbo is an aggressive posture; arms-crossed is defensive. It can be thought to symbolically represent his being brought down to more human levels from his prior Demi-god status, or something. {{Batgirl1}} may have too much time on her hands.

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** Um, {{Batgirl1}} has her own ideas about Superman's pose. Note that In the older comics, when Superman was mainly Superman and Clark was just a disguise, his standard pose was [[DynamicAkimbo arms-akimbo]]. In the post-reboot comics, where Superman is Clark, he defaults to arm-crossing. Arms-Akimbo is an aggressive posture; arms-crossed is defensive. It can be thought to symbolically represent his being brought down to more human levels from his prior Demi-god status, or something. {{Batgirl1}} may have too much time on her hands.



* In ''{{Film/Superman}}'', Superman starts making the headlines everywhere in Metropolis, including the Daily Planet ("Caped Wonder Stuns City!"). Perry White, naturally, doesn't like that the ''Planet'' doesn't have anything the other papers don't, so he demands an exclusive. One or more of his reporters must interview Superman at once -- it'll be "the single most important interview since... God talked to Moses!". I remembered the story of Moses was an influence on Superman's origins! - Tropers/{{Premonition45}}

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* In ''{{Film/Superman}}'', Superman starts making the headlines everywhere in Metropolis, including the Daily Planet ("Caped Wonder Stuns City!"). Perry White, naturally, doesn't like that the ''Planet'' doesn't have anything the other papers don't, so he demands an exclusive. One or more of his reporters must interview Superman at once -- it'll be "the single most important interview since... God talked to Moses!". I remembered the story of Moses was an influence on Superman's origins! - Tropers/{{Premonition45}}
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** This statement could both reference people in general or it could also be a refernece to himself as by saving him and sending him to earth, his parents gave earth it's greatest champion.

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** This statement could both reference people in general or it could also be a refernece to himself as by saving him and sending him to earth, Earth, his parents gave earth it's Earth its greatest champion.



** Um, {{Batgirl1}} has her own ideas about Superman's pose. Note that In the older comics, when Superman was mainly Superman and Clark was just a disguise, his standard pose was arms-akimbo. In the post-reboot comics, where Superman is Clark, he defaults to arm-crossing. Arms-Akimbo is an aggressive posture; arms-crossed is defensive. It can be thought to symbolically represent his being brought down to more human levels from his prior Demi-god status, or something. {{Batgirl1}} may have too much time on her hands.

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** Um, {{Batgirl1}} has her own ideas about Superman's pose. Note that In the older comics, when Superman was mainly Superman and Clark was just a disguise, his standard pose was arms-akimbo.[[DynamicAkimbo arms-akimbo]]. In the post-reboot comics, where Superman is Clark, he defaults to arm-crossing. Arms-Akimbo is an aggressive posture; arms-crossed is defensive. It can be thought to symbolically represent his being brought down to more human levels from his prior Demi-god status, or something. {{Batgirl1}} may have too much time on her hands.
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*** Sure it does. Any resident of Kandor born ''after'' Krypton's destruction can't be a child "of Krypton", only a child of Kandor. "Son of Krypton" specifies the ''planet'', not the species.
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* Superboy-Prime was revealed being magic-proof in ''InfiniteCrisis'', with no explanation why. But when you think about it, there's a good explanation: he's the last Superman from UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, when Superman's power set included ''NewPowersAsThePlotDemands''. ''Of course'' he'd reveal or spontaneously develop a new power at exactly the moment he needs to, ''it's one of his powers''.

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* Superboy-Prime was revealed being magic-proof in ''InfiniteCrisis'', ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', with no explanation why. But when you think about it, there's a good explanation: he's the last Superman from UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, when Superman's power set included ''NewPowersAsThePlotDemands''. ''Of course'' he'd reveal or spontaneously develop a new power at exactly the moment he needs to, ''it's one of his powers''.

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* Superman’s farm background may have affected him in both a positive and negative manner:
** Positively, he learnt to care for the earth and to nurture all living things, and to accept the natural consequences of life (ie he doesn’t try to interfere, but simply lets things proceed as they should).
** Negatively, he has a wide-eyed idealistic view of the world, and no real understanding of social compromises and concessions that ordinary people need to make to manage their lives, which means enemies can use underhanded tactics (turning others against Superman, etc) against him effectively.
* Superman is attracted to Lois Lane because she doesn’t adore him, but neither is she afraid of him.
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*** For a real life example, consider that there are famous people who do look a bit like each other: Creator/KeiraKnightley and Creator/NataliePortman for instance (Knightly played Portman's double in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' specifically for this reason). "Hey, Clark Kent sorta looks like Superman... bet he gets hassled by it all the time" is probably a realistic response for most people. The other common argument is to point out that someone, especially writers, can be famous and still not be well-known faces. Stephen King can probably be safely anonymous much of the time.

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*** For a real life example, consider that there are famous people who do look a bit like each other: Creator/KeiraKnightley and Creator/NataliePortman for instance (Knightly played Portman's double in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' specifically for this reason). "Hey, Clark Kent sorta looks like Superman... bet he gets hassled by it all the time" is probably a realistic response for most people. The other common argument is to point out that someone, especially writers, can be famous and still not be well-known faces. Stephen King Creator/StephenKing can probably be safely anonymous much of the time.
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*** For a real life example, consider that there are famous people who do look a bit like each other: Creator/KeiraKnightly and Creator/NataliePortman for instance (Knightly played Portman's double in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' specifically for this reason). "Hey, Clark Kent sorta looks like Superman... bet he gets hassled by it all the time" is probably a realistic response for most people. The other common argument is to point out that someone, especially writers, can be famous and still not be well-known faces. Stephen King can probably be safely anonymous much of the time.

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*** For a real life example, consider that there are famous people who do look a bit like each other: Creator/KeiraKnightly Creator/KeiraKnightley and Creator/NataliePortman for instance (Knightly played Portman's double in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' specifically for this reason). "Hey, Clark Kent sorta looks like Superman... bet he gets hassled by it all the time" is probably a realistic response for most people. The other common argument is to point out that someone, especially writers, can be famous and still not be well-known faces. Stephen King can probably be safely anonymous much of the time.
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*** For a real life example, consider that there are famous people who do look a bit like each other: Keira Knightly and Creator/NataliePortman for instance (Knightly played Portman's double in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' specifically for this reason). "Hey, Clark Kent sorta looks like Superman... bet he gets hassled by it all the time" is probably a realistic response for most people. The other common argument is to point out that someone, especially writers, can be famous and still not be well-known faces. Stephen King can probably be safely anonymous much of the time.

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*** For a real life example, consider that there are famous people who do look a bit like each other: Keira Knightly Creator/KeiraKnightly and Creator/NataliePortman for instance (Knightly played Portman's double in ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'' specifically for this reason). "Hey, Clark Kent sorta looks like Superman... bet he gets hassled by it all the time" is probably a realistic response for most people. The other common argument is to point out that someone, especially writers, can be famous and still not be well-known faces. Stephen King can probably be safely anonymous much of the time.
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* Just got the significance of Superman's AsskickingPose. Crossing his arms is not just the standard "I'm angry" expression - it's also his way of saying he could beat you at least five different ways ''without'' ever uncrossing his arms.

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* Just got the significance of Superman's AsskickingPose. [[BadassArmfold Crossing his arms arms]] is not just the standard "I'm angry" expression - it's also his way of saying he could beat you at least five different ways ''without'' ever uncrossing his arms.

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