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* When the Fateless One fights the ettin that was fated to [[spoiler: kill Agarth]] the game gives you a free Fateshift kill, letting you ScrewDestiny right in front of a Fateweaver who ''knows'' this isn't supposed to happen. This 'free kill' only happens at one previous point in the main storyline, during the tutorial when you're escaping the tower. But hey, it's a tutorial, right? Not in retrospect. That rock troll you killed at the end of the tutorial was clearly Fated to [[spoiler: kill Fomorous Hugues,]] but you got to it first.

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* When the Fateless One fights the ettin that was fated to [[spoiler: kill Agarth]] the game gives you a free Fateshift kill, letting you ScrewDestiny right in front of a Fateweaver who ''knows'' this isn't supposed to happen. This 'free kill' only happens at one previous point in the main storyline, during the tutorial when you're escaping the tower. But hey, it's a tutorial, right? Not in retrospect. That rock troll you killed at the end of the tutorial was clearly Fated to [[spoiler: kill Fomorous Hugues,]] but you got to it first.first.
* [[spoiler: Tirnoch]] is something of an AntiClimaxBoss for the Fateless One if you've been leveling up and gearing yourself up properly, which is strange because she's [[spoiler: a titanic dragon whose teeth are bigger than giants.]] You'd think that she would just smash you flat. But then, her main ability is the power to control and manipulate Fate itself. [[ImmuneToFate Which the Fateless One is immune to.]] [[spoiler:Tirnoch]] ''literally'' cannot touch you, which is why she [[spoiler:can only attack you by creating projections created by your own Destinies]].
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* The way destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over, due to the fae being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again, like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?

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* The way destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over, due to the fae being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again, like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?interference?
* When the Fateless One fights the ettin that was fated to [[spoiler: kill Agarth]] the game gives you a free Fateshift kill, letting you ScrewDestiny right in front of a Fateweaver who ''knows'' this isn't supposed to happen. This 'free kill' only happens at one previous point in the main storyline, during the tutorial when you're escaping the tower. But hey, it's a tutorial, right? Not in retrospect. That rock troll you killed at the end of the tutorial was clearly Fated to [[spoiler: kill Fomorous Hugues,]] but you got to it first.
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* The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...

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* The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves.Fae. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...



* The way destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over, due to the elves being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again, like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?

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* The way destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over, due to the elves fae being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again, like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?

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* FridgeLogic: If the Fateless One was truly beyond fate, how was it possible for his/her creation to be foreseen by Agarth? This implies that in some sense Fate itself had become suicidal and had engineered the means for its own demise.
** Or maybe Fate was bored and decide to allow a wild card to be created just to see what'd happen if he let someone he had absolutely no control over run amok in the world. Think of it this way, knowing exactly everything that's going to happen in advance makes for a pretty boring existence.
*** I think that it was less the Fate of the Fateless One, but rather the Fate of the Well Of Souls. So Agarth or the other Fateweavers would see 'Yes, the Well of Souls will work once, and then get blown up.' It's just when they look at the fate of the person that did get ressurected do things go off the rails.
*** That seems to be it. Note that the Fateless One's creation immediately changed things, such as [[spoiler:indirectly preventing the death of Huges]].
*** Also I think [[spoiler: Tirnoch needed the Fateless One's power to escape from her cell. She saw that the only way for her to escape was to have a Fateless One show up with plenty of power, suck them dry, and then break free. So she let the Well work, once. She just didn't count on her key to escape, also having the power to beat her once and for all.]]
*** Worth noting: Nothing suggests that Fate is a sentient entity. It's a force not person, guessing at it's motives is pointless; it doesn't have any.
* Also: All the [=NPCs=] keep telling the Fateless One that he's been resurrected. But he wakes up with complete amnesia and at no point does he regain his memories, and it's also implied that the original had a markedly different personality. So is the Fateless One truly BackFromTheDead... or a completely new person who merely looks like him?
** Given that the story hinges on a returned individual (see below) it's unlikely. Amnesia often results in a personality change.

* FridgeBrilliance: The Fateless One lacked a destiny because it was ''already fulfilled'', death being the ''fate'' of most mortals. The story being over, what was left was similar to the blank pages at the back of many books or an entirely new book.
** The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...
** The vast majority of the game's monsters are described as fae creatures. That's why they keep respawning--they're resurrecting. Of course, that doesn't explain the mortal enemies, but still.
*** The mortal enemies are just being replaced by new recruits every few days. This also explains why they keep picking a fight with someone who has already killed hundreds of bandits before them.
** Destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over due to the elves being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?

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This implies that in some sense Fate itself had become suicidal and had engineered the means for its own demise.
** Or maybe Fate was bored and decide to allow a wild card to be created just to see what'd happen if he let someone he had absolutely no control over run amok in the world. Think of it this way, knowing exactly everything that's going to happen in advance makes for a pretty boring existence.
*** I think that it was less the Fate of the Fateless One, but rather the Fate of the Well Of Souls. So Agarth
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*** Worth noting: Nothing suggests that Fate is a sentient entity. It's a force not person, guessing at it's motives is pointless; it doesn't have any.
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* Also: All the [=NPCs=] keep telling the Fateless One that he's been resurrected. But he wakes up with complete amnesia and at no point does he regain his memories, and it's also implied that the original had a markedly different personality. So is the Fateless One truly BackFromTheDead... or a completely new person who merely looks like him?
** Given that the story hinges on a returned individual (see below) it's unlikely. Amnesia often results in a personality change.

* FridgeBrilliance:
The Fateless One lacked a destiny because it was ''already fulfilled'', death being the ''fate'' of most mortals. The story being over, what was left was similar to the blank pages at the back of many books or an entirely new book.
** * The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...
** * The vast majority of the game's monsters are described as fae creatures. That's why they keep respawning--they're resurrecting. Of course, that doesn't explain the mortal enemies, but still.\n*** The mortal enemies are just being replaced by new recruits every few days. This also explains why they keep picking a fight with someone who has already killed hundreds of bandits before them.
** Destiny * The way destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over over, due to the elves being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again again, like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?
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** Destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over due to the elves being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now magine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?

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** Destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over due to the elves being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now magine imagine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?
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*** The mortal enemies are just being replaced by new recruits every few days. This also explains why they keep picking a fight with someone who has already killed hundreds of bandits before them.

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*** The mortal enemies are just being replaced by new recruits every few days. This also explains why they keep picking a fight with someone who has already killed hundreds of bandits before them.them.
** Destiny works in this game is basically the same history replaying itself over and over due to the elves being reborn from their death and replaying the same role again like actors replaying the same drama on a stage. Now magine for a moment a well known play like Hamlet, except that one night, Yorik comes back to life and starts interacting with the cast despite not having any lines written for him at this point... who knows how the story will end as the other actors improvise around his unexpected interference?
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** Given that the story hinges on a returned individual (see below) unlikely. Amnesia often results in a personality change.

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** Given that the story hinges on a returned individual (see below) it's unlikely. Amnesia often results in a personality change.
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** Given that the story hinges on a returned individual (see below) unlikely. Amnesia often results in a personality change.
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*** Worth noting: Nothing suggests that Fate is a sentient entity. It's a force not person, guessing at it's motives is pointless; it doesn't have any.
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** The vast majority of the game's monsters are described as fae creatures. That's why they keep respawning--they're resurrecting. Of course, that doesn't explain the mortal enemies, but still.

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** The vast majority of the game's monsters are described as fae creatures. That's why they keep respawning--they're resurrecting. Of course, that doesn't explain the mortal enemies, but still.still.
*** The mortal enemies are just being replaced by new recruits every few days. This also explains why they keep picking a fight with someone who has already killed hundreds of bandits before them.
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** The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...

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** The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...again...
** The vast majority of the game's monsters are described as fae creatures. That's why they keep respawning--they're resurrecting. Of course, that doesn't explain the mortal enemies, but still.
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* FridgeBrilliance: The Fateless One lacked a destiny because it was ''already fulfilled'', death being the ''fate'' of most mortals. The story being over, what was left was similar to the blank pages at the back of many books or an entirely new book.

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* FridgeBrilliance: The Fateless One lacked a destiny because it was ''already fulfilled'', death being the ''fate'' of most mortals. The story being over, what was left was similar to the blank pages at the back of many books or an entirely new book.book.
** The game's story actually is a pretty funny rip on the nature of video games, especially the Elves. Think about it: constantly repeating stories, doing the same thing over and over again...
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* Also: All the [=NPCs=] keep telling the Fateless One that he's been resurrected. But he wakes up with complete amnesia and at no point does he regain his memories, and it's also implied that the original had a markedly different personality. So is the Fateless One truly BackFromTheDead... or a completely new person who merely looks like him?
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*** Also I think [[spoiler: Tirnoch needed the Fateless One's power to escape from her cell. She saw that the only way for her to escape was to have a Fateless One show up with plenty of power, suck them dry, and then break free. So she let the Well work, once. She just didn't count on her key to escape, also having the power to beat her once and for all.]]
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*** That seems to be it. Note that the Fateless One's creation immediately changed things, such as [[spoiler:indirectly preventing the death of Huges]].

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*** That seems to be it. Note that the Fateless One's creation immediately changed things, such as [[spoiler:indirectly preventing the death of Huges]].Huges]].

* FridgeBrilliance: The Fateless One lacked a destiny because it was ''already fulfilled'', death being the ''fate'' of most mortals. The story being over, what was left was similar to the blank pages at the back of many books or an entirely new book.
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*** I think that it was less the Fate of the Fateless One, but rather the Fate of the Well Of Souls. So Agarth or the other Fateweavers would see 'Yes, the Well of Souls will work once, and then get blown up.' It's just when they look at the fate of the person that did get ressurected do things go off the rails.

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*** I think that it was less the Fate of the Fateless One, but rather the Fate of the Well Of Souls. So Agarth or the other Fateweavers would see 'Yes, the Well of Souls will work once, and then get blown up.' It's just when they look at the fate of the person that did get ressurected do things go off the rails.rails.
*** That seems to be it. Note that the Fateless One's creation immediately changed things, such as [[spoiler:indirectly preventing the death of Huges]].
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** Or maybe Fate was bored and decide to allow a wild card to be created just to see what'd happen if he let someone he had absolutely no control over run amok in the world. Think of it this way, knowing exactly everything that's going to happen in advance makes for a pretty boring existence.

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** Or maybe Fate was bored and decide to allow a wild card to be created just to see what'd happen if he let someone he had absolutely no control over run amok in the world. Think of it this way, knowing exactly everything that's going to happen in advance makes for a pretty boring existence.existence.
*** I think that it was less the Fate of the Fateless One, but rather the Fate of the Well Of Souls. So Agarth or the other Fateweavers would see 'Yes, the Well of Souls will work once, and then get blown up.' It's just when they look at the fate of the person that did get ressurected do things go off the rails.
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* FridgeLogic: If the Fateless One was truly beyond fate, how was it possible for his/her creation to be foreseen by Agarth? This implies that in some sense Fate itself had become suicidal and had engineered the means for its own demise.

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* FridgeLogic: If the Fateless One was truly beyond fate, how was it possible for his/her creation to be foreseen by Agarth? This implies that in some sense Fate itself had become suicidal and had engineered the means for its own demise.demise.
** Or maybe Fate was bored and decide to allow a wild card to be created just to see what'd happen if he let someone he had absolutely no control over run amok in the world. Think of it this way, knowing exactly everything that's going to happen in advance makes for a pretty boring existence.
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