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* When Meltzer re-established Green Arrow's secret identity in ''Archer's Quest'', it appears to come out of nowhere, but a possible explanation for this shift could be the Beast With No Name. The Beast stated that he was capable of altering memories when he declared his intent to make Stanley forget the torment he suffered at the hands of his evil grandfather; much like how Mephisto erased all knowledge of Spider-Man's identity (''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''), the Beast could have altered the general public's memory of Oliver's secret identity so that only his contacts in the hero community still know that Oliver Queen and Green Arrow are the same person (doctors are shown referring to Oliver by name when he's giving Connor a blood transfusion after Onomatopoeia's attack, but this can be attributed to Oliver invoking doctor/patient confidentiality).
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* When Meltzer re-established Green Arrow's secret identity in ''Archer's Quest'', it appears to come out of nowhere, but a possible explanation for this shift could be the Beast With No Name. The Beast stated that he was capable of altering memories when he declared his intent to make Stanley forget the torment he suffered at the hands of his evil grandfather; much like how Mephisto erased all knowledge of Spider-Man's identity (''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''), the Beast could have altered the general public's memory of Oliver's secret identity so that only his contacts in the hero community still know that Oliver Queen and Green Arrow are the same person (doctors are shown referring to Oliver by name when he's giving Connor a blood transfusion after Onomatopoeia's attack, but this can be attributed to Oliver invoking doctor/patient confidentiality).confidentiality).
* In Black Canary's 2007 miniseries leading up to the wedding, Ollie conspires with Mia and Connor to fake Sin's death without Dinah's knowledge and have her put somewhere they argue is for her own safety from the League of Assassins. They don't tell Dinah about this until after she almost kills Merlyn in a rage thinking he murdered Sin. Notably, Roy's the only member of the Arrow Family who had no involvement in this ruse until you realize Ollie deliberately chose not to involve Roy because of Lian. It's entirely likely Roy would've tried to stop them from taking Sin away from Dinah when you factor in Lian, who has frequently been targeted because of who her parents are, and the hypocrisy around how Ollie never had a problem with her.
* In Black Canary's 2007 miniseries leading up to the wedding, Ollie conspires with Mia and Connor to fake Sin's death without Dinah's knowledge and have her put somewhere they argue is for her own safety from the League of Assassins. They don't tell Dinah about this until after she almost kills Merlyn in a rage thinking he murdered Sin. Notably, Roy's the only member of the Arrow Family who had no involvement in this ruse until you realize Ollie deliberately chose not to involve Roy because of Lian. It's entirely likely Roy would've tried to stop them from taking Sin away from Dinah when you factor in Lian, who has frequently been targeted because of who her parents are, and the hypocrisy around how Ollie never had a problem with her.
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* Pre-Shado, Oliver was never depicted as anything but a one-woman man; he was a flirt but he was a loyal boyfriend to Dinah. Indeed, the major source of fighting between the two was how possessive and protective Oliver was of his "pretty bird." Shortly after Shado raped him, Oliver came close to cheating on Dinah on several occasions, before sharing a too-friendly kiss with Dinah's assistant Marianne. (He later slept with Marianne after Dinah dumped him.) Later, just after the two began dating again after his resurrection, Ollie cheated on Dinah again with Black Lightning's niece, shortly after Dinah rejected his marriage proposal, and developed a reputation for being a sleaze. It's not uncommon for rape victims to handle their trauma by becoming increasingly more promiscuous, male victims especially, as a means of regaining a feeling of control over their sexuality. While Oliver's never really talked about how he feels regarding his rape, the increased sexual activity on his part lines up well with it. There's also some suggestion he intentionally sabotaged his relationship with Dinah due to feeling like he was a screw-up who didn't deserve her.
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* Pre-Shado, Oliver was never depicted as anything but a one-woman man; he was a flirt but he was a loyal boyfriend to Dinah. Indeed, the major source of fighting between the two was how possessive and protective Oliver was of his "pretty bird." Shortly after Shado raped him, Oliver came close to cheating on Dinah on several occasions, before sharing a too-friendly kiss with Dinah's assistant Marianne. (He later slept with Marianne after Dinah dumped him.) Later, just after the two began dating again after his resurrection, Ollie cheated on Dinah again with Black Lightning's niece, shortly after Dinah rejected his marriage proposal, and developed a reputation for being a sleaze. It's not uncommon for rape victims to handle their trauma by becoming increasingly more promiscuous, male victims especially, as a means of regaining a feeling of control over their sexuality. While Oliver's never really talked about how he feels regarding his rape, the increased sexual activity on his part lines up well with it. There's also some suggestion he intentionally sabotaged his relationship with Dinah due to feeling like he was a screw-up who didn't deserve her.her.
* When Meltzer re-established Green Arrow's secret identity in ''Archer's Quest'', it appears to come out of nowhere, but a possible explanation for this shift could be the Beast With No Name. The Beast stated that he was capable of altering memories when he declared his intent to make Stanley forget the torment he suffered at the hands of his evil grandfather; much like how Mephisto erased all knowledge of Spider-Man's identity (''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''), the Beast could have altered the general public's memory of Oliver's secret identity so that only his contacts in the hero community still know that Oliver Queen and Green Arrow are the same person (doctors are shown referring to Oliver by name when he's giving Connor a blood transfusion after Onomatopoeia's attack, but this can be attributed to Oliver invoking doctor/patient confidentiality).
* When Meltzer re-established Green Arrow's secret identity in ''Archer's Quest'', it appears to come out of nowhere, but a possible explanation for this shift could be the Beast With No Name. The Beast stated that he was capable of altering memories when he declared his intent to make Stanley forget the torment he suffered at the hands of his evil grandfather; much like how Mephisto erased all knowledge of Spider-Man's identity (''ComicBook/OneMoreDay''), the Beast could have altered the general public's memory of Oliver's secret identity so that only his contacts in the hero community still know that Oliver Queen and Green Arrow are the same person (doctors are shown referring to Oliver by name when he's giving Connor a blood transfusion after Onomatopoeia's attack, but this can be attributed to Oliver invoking doctor/patient confidentiality).
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* Pre-Shado, Oliver was never depicted as anything but a one-woman man; he was a flirt but he was a loyal boyfriend to Dinah. Shortly after Shado rapes him, Oliver ''did'' cheat on Dinah with Marianne, and would later cheat on her again with Black Lightning's niece, and developed a reputation for being a sleaze. It's not uncommon for rape victims to handle their trauma by becoming increasingly more promiscuous, male victims especially, as a means of regaining a feeling of control over their sexuality. While Oliver's never really talked about how he feels regarding his rape, the increased sexual activity on his part lines up well with it.
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* Pre-Shado, Oliver was never depicted as anything but a one-woman man; he was a flirt but he was a loyal boyfriend to Dinah. Indeed, the major source of fighting between the two was how possessive and protective Oliver was of his "pretty bird." Shortly after Shado rapes raped him, Oliver ''did'' cheat came close to cheating on Dinah on several occasions, before sharing a too-friendly kiss with Marianne, and would Dinah's assistant Marianne. (He later cheat slept with Marianne after Dinah dumped him.) Later, just after the two began dating again after his resurrection, Ollie cheated on her Dinah again with Black Lightning's niece, shortly after Dinah rejected his marriage proposal, and developed a reputation for being a sleaze. It's not uncommon for rape victims to handle their trauma by becoming increasingly more promiscuous, male victims especially, as a means of regaining a feeling of control over their sexuality. While Oliver's never really talked about how he feels regarding his rape, the increased sexual activity on his part lines up well with it. There's also some suggestion he intentionally sabotaged his relationship with Dinah due to feeling like he was a screw-up who didn't deserve her.
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** Diggle also changed the marijuana farm on the island from Grell's reboot into a poppy farm. This further cemented Green Arrow's status as a modern-day Robin Hood, as Oliver Queen fought not only for a way home but for the freedom of the enslaved natives being forced to work the farm.
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** Diggle also changed the marijuana farm on the island from Grell's reboot into a poppy farm. This further cemented Green Arrow's status as a modern-day Robin Hood, as Oliver Queen fought not only for a way home but for the freedom of the enslaved natives being forced to work the farm.farm.
*** This even creates extra context to Oliver rejecting Roy when he finds out he's an addict; on the one hand, he knows first hand ''how'' heroin is made, so he likely sees Roy partaking in it as a slap in the face to the people he witnessed being abused and enslaved all those years ago. On the other hand, he himself briefly battled addiction towards it when he was forced to use it for pain medication during a serious injury, so seeing his protege ''also'' become addicted to it was likely triggering for him, and him pushing Roy away was due to Oliver not processing this well.
* Pre-Shado, Oliver was never depicted as anything but a one-woman man; he was a flirt but he was a loyal boyfriend to Dinah. Shortly after Shado rapes him, Oliver ''did'' cheat on Dinah with Marianne, and would later cheat on her again with Black Lightning's niece, and developed a reputation for being a sleaze. It's not uncommon for rape victims to handle their trauma by becoming increasingly more promiscuous, male victims especially, as a means of regaining a feeling of control over their sexuality. While Oliver's never really talked about how he feels regarding his rape, the increased sexual activity on his part lines up well with it.
*** This even creates extra context to Oliver rejecting Roy when he finds out he's an addict; on the one hand, he knows first hand ''how'' heroin is made, so he likely sees Roy partaking in it as a slap in the face to the people he witnessed being abused and enslaved all those years ago. On the other hand, he himself briefly battled addiction towards it when he was forced to use it for pain medication during a serious injury, so seeing his protege ''also'' become addicted to it was likely triggering for him, and him pushing Roy away was due to Oliver not processing this well.
* Pre-Shado, Oliver was never depicted as anything but a one-woman man; he was a flirt but he was a loyal boyfriend to Dinah. Shortly after Shado rapes him, Oliver ''did'' cheat on Dinah with Marianne, and would later cheat on her again with Black Lightning's niece, and developed a reputation for being a sleaze. It's not uncommon for rape victims to handle their trauma by becoming increasingly more promiscuous, male victims especially, as a means of regaining a feeling of control over their sexuality. While Oliver's never really talked about how he feels regarding his rape, the increased sexual activity on his part lines up well with it.
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* Writer Mike Grell made Oliver Queen an Creator/ErrolFlynn fanboy. While primarily a nod to Flynn's status as the most famous cinematic Robin Hood, it also informed much of the young Oliver Queen's canon backstory until that point. In real life, Flynn was an avid sailor and adventurer with an eye for the ladies even before he was discovered and got into acting. In most of his origin stories since ''The LongbowHunters'', Oliver Queen has also been portrayed as a womanizer and world-traveler with a love of boating in the days before he reformed and became Green Arrow.
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* Writer Mike Grell made Oliver Queen an Creator/ErrolFlynn fanboy. While primarily a nod to Flynn's status as the most famous cinematic Robin Hood, it also informed much of the young Oliver Queen's canon backstory until that point. In real life, Flynn was an avid sailor and adventurer with an eye for the ladies even before he was discovered and got into acting. In most of his origin stories since ''The LongbowHunters'', Longbow Hunters'', Oliver Queen has also been portrayed as a womanizer and world-traveler with a love of boating in the days before he reformed and became Green Arrow.
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Removed HIV entry as it was inaccurate. Oliver Queen had not been out of the loop for over ten years in comic time. Indeed, he wasn't even dead for six years of real time before being resurrected in Quiver. Oliver's ignorance of HIV and AIDS didn't even make sense outside the context of Winick's story since an early issue of Mike Grell's Green Arrow had Oliver investigating a series of attacks on gay men by a man who blamed them for his own HIV status, which showed Ollie's awareness of the condition.
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* During the VerySpecialEpisode where Mia was revealed to be HIV+, the other characters have to drill it into Ollie the basics about how the virus is and is not spread. The whole thing is preachy as hell and definitely a platform for Winnick. But the brilliance kicks in when you realize that Ollie has been out of the loop for ''over ten years'', both during his time dead and his time trying to clean up his life in the ashram. Ten years before the comic was published, there was still a ridiculous amount of misinformation circulating about the disease.
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* Writer Andy Diggle did something similar in ''Green Arrow: Year One''. In order to explain away how unlikely it was that an untrained billionaire could suddenly develop master survivalist skills with no prior training, Diggle tweaked Oliver Queen's background to make him an amateur extreme sports athlete who had gone on polar exploration trips and indulged in enough exotic travel that he was an experienced survivalist even before becoming shipwrecked.
** Diggle also changed the
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* During the VerySpecialEpisode where Mia was revealed to be HIV+, the other characters have to drill it into Ollie the basics about how the virus is and is not spread. The whole thing is preachy as hell and definitely a platform for Winnick. But the brilliance kicks in when you realize that Ollie has been out of the loop for ''over ten years'', both during his time dead and his time trying to clean up his life in the ashram. Ten years before the comic was published, there was still a ridiculous amount of misinformation circulating about the disease.
* During the VerySpecialEpisode where Mia was revealed to be HIV+, the other characters have to drill it into Ollie the basics about how the virus is and is not spread. The whole thing is preachy as hell and definitely a platform for Winnick. But the brilliance kicks in when you realize that Ollie has been out of the loop for ''over ten years'', both during his time dead and his time trying to clean up his life in the ashram. Ten years before the comic was published, there was still a ridiculous amount of misinformation circulating about the disease.
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That\'s just an Incredibly Lame Pun. Unless you have Word Of God from his original creator backing you, that\'s a fan theory
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* Speedy getting hooked on drugs. It wasn't just an aesop that to CharacterDevelopment. It was foreshadowed in his nickname (''Speed''y).
* Speedy getting hooked on drugs. It wasn't just an aesop that to CharacterDevelopment. It was foreshadowed in his nickname (''Speed''y).
