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Red Shoe: I rather think it takes three to make a trope, so:

In a humorous Speculative Fiction series, a generally good guy, always a bit of a buffoon, has a habit of frequently blowing up planets. Often by accident. Possibly a subversion of "With great power comes great responsibility." The examples that come to me are Stanley Tweedle on Lexx, and Mike Nelson in season 8 of Mystery Science Theater 3000.

Ununnilium: Huh, there's an example other than Mike? o.o Interesting. (Though I can't help but wonder if the writers of Lexx were inspired by MST3K, considering that it came out after MST was cancelled on the same network.)

Airbud: I thought that Mike blew up planets by accident, while Stanley blew up planets out of boredom or malice.

Red Shoe: Yeah, but he's still a generally nice guy. He doesn't blow up planets because he's evil, so much, as because he lacks the emotional maturity to realize that he shouldn't be so capricious with the planet-destroying-blaster. Also, there is at least one instance where he does blow a planet up by accident. "Lexx, destroy that planet in sixty seconds." (talks some with the guy on the planet) "Lexx, cancel that order." (planet explodes) "Lexx, I thought I told you to cancel that!" "Yes Stan. By the way, what does 'cancel' mean?"

Seth: Can't resist this one. Oops Was That Your Planet. Wouldn't another example be Galactus? He destroyed an awful lot of planets, then we have the parody example of Omnipotus from The Tick. Four examples and a name spells a trope.

Binaroid: Those two wouldn't qualify, since they actually plan to destroy planets. A better example would be the Dirty Pair, who've managed to destroy several planets accidentally. Secondary trope name suggestion: Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds?

Seth: This looks completed anywho (I think mentioning the buffon type planet destroyer and the evil/planned planet destroyer in one lumped trope is better in this instance. Will pull trigger in the next few days if Red Shoe doesn't get around to it.


Boobah: I'd really love to see Spike's Happy Meals on legs line in here, but I have no idea where. <sigh>
Kinitawowi: Trying to work out if the Earthworm Jim lampshading belongs in here (when asked what he was planning to do after he'd successfully destroyed the universe, Evil The Cat admitted he hadn't actually thought that far ahead and could only come up with "gloat, and cackle wickedly among the ashes").
Ununnilium: IMHO, the Life, The Universe and Everything example doesn't count, since it was so intentional.


Paul Power: Can't help but feel that this needs some sort of split into "non-villains who destroy worlds accidentally" and "villains who don't want the world to be destroyed because then they can't rule it": it's just that Mike Nelson, Destroyer of Worlds, while a good description of the former, isn't a good description of the latter. So I'd argue for a split, with the villains on a page called The Robotnik Dilemma or something.
Dalantia: Yanked the Final Fantasy Tactics Advance lines. Marche is not Hitler, the sequel demonstrates that nothing bad happened, etc. etc.
Fire Walk: cleft due to non-examplitude:
  • Spike from Buffy The Vampire Slayer actually LIKES the world, so when Angelus revealed his plan to destroy it, Spike made a point of stopping this plan.

Hellsop: The item starting "Shinki" in the video games section doesn't have an actual source. There's discussion of the character and motivations, but no mention of what video game the character is from.

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