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Machiavelli Jr: I have heard it said that you *can't* draw the Julio-Claudian family tree with all the marriages. If you try you end up with Claudius in about 4 different places. I've heard the number of dimensions required as anywhere from 3 to 5, but it definitely can't be done on a flat piece of paper.