This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Working Title: LivHitsTheGirl: From YKTTW
Rogue 7: After adding my three counter-examples, all of which were major fights in the series, two of which involved the ladies getting impaled, unless someone can come up with a pretty damn good reason, I'm just going to delete the Naruto entry.
Danel: Yeah, if you don't I will. Also: this needs to be about more than just "sometimes the female heroes fight female villains". Really, this is about the Token Woman hero fighting the Token Woman villain. A lot of these examples don't fit, really - Runaways, more than half of the heroes are female anyway; in Avatar, Katara's take-down of Azula followed a duel between Azula and her brother; Kim Possible is more a case of Shego being Kim's Evil Counterpart... This is a good trope, which is why we need to excise the bad examples. Any objections?
Rogue 7: Naruto and Avatar examples excised.
Rogue 7: Pulled Naruto again.
Pro-Mole: One Piece? I don't think so... as far as I see, there were only two examples of this along the series:
- The Nami/Miss Double Finger fight, in Alabasta;
- And the Donut Race, in the Foxy Arc;
Arekuru: Put Naruto back up with edited text. While I agree, Masashi Kishimoto does catch on and level up Sakura later as well as introducing a few strong women ninja, prior to that Sakura and the other girls all do indeed end up in Designated Girl Fights. Can you possibly argue that Sakura and Ino's fight is not exactly what the trope describes?
Rogue 7: No, that's more a straight-up catfight with the two having personal issues to work out with each other. Sakura got her ass handed to her in the Forest of Death immediately prior, Hinata nearly got killed by Neji. In the main tournament, Shikamaru fought Temari (sure, he didn't actually hurt her, but that's how he fights. It's a byproduct of his techniques), Tsunade got herself insanely beat up by Orochimaru and even Shizune didn't escape unscathed, Shikamaru was more than willing to stab that sound chick...etc. Just because there are a couple of girl-on-girl fights doesn't necessarily qualify a series for this trope. It's got to be something that happens continuously. After the preliminaries of the Chuunin exams, there simply aren't any girl-on-girl fights, and even if there were, there are enough girls-vs-guys for it not to qualify. You're missing the point of the trope, really- this is more of a trend rather than one or two instances.
Prfnoff: I have no idea why this was indexed under Censorship Tropes.
Laevatein: Corrected the Godzilla: Final Wars entry from subversion to aversion, and I'm wondering whether it shouldn't just be deleted, given that I don't think this falls under the "so universal that aversions are noteworthy" category. Keep it or cut it?
Masami Phoenix: Removed Avatar example again. Azula fighting Katara once, right after fighting a male character doesn't qualify as this trope. And given that the series constantly averts it (first season features Katara going one-on-one with Zuko at the end, and second season features Aang regularly squaring against Azula), it really doesn't count.
