This is discussion archived from a time before the current discussion method was installed.
Looney Toons: I'd like to point out that the "Thor" option has not, to the best of my knowledge, actually been done on television. Even the live "Thor" telemovie avoided this, by changing Thor into "just" a massively powerful Viking warrior — a case of Executive Meddling to prevent cries of outrage from the Religious Right.
Kchishol: Yes it has. There was a the Mighty Thor segments of the Marvel Super-Heroes series which adapted the original Thor stories directly from the comics, including the fact that he's a god and the full Norse Pantheon.
Looney Toons: I stand corrected; I should have known this, given that I was the one who entered the info on the Thor cartoon into the Marvel Universe entry.
Looney Toons: 9 Dec 2005. After much thought, I've removed the "Thor" material, as it doesn't actually fit in with what the trope is about, in my opinion. I've stashed it here against future need:
Ununnilium: Spoilerized the Haruhi info, since IMHO it's a bit too soon, and it's one of the Big Surprises of the anime.
Dark Sasami: Fixed the spoilerization, but it's interesting to note the effects of spoiler tags on wiki links. Going to test that in the sandbox now.
Looney Toons: Removed the link for "or else" because it was causing premature despoiling.
Seth: The Suzumiya Haruhi bit i mentioned that i dare not mention is the amount of foreshadowing in the books and fan speculation that (Super warning, highlighting may ruin entire series) Kyon is in fact the god, the opening narration focuses on his desires and in the end settles that he would like to be friends with all powerful people without having any powers of his own. Based on the same logic that haruhi could never accept her divinity and makes things happen that she desires, same for him but as part of the deal he projected his actual power on Haruhi as a central figure. The books hint at this more and more as they go on and most heavy fans speculate about this no end. In terms of the logic of the series it would fit as an explanation of most of it
Sean Tucker: I get the feeling Kyoto's going to Gecko Ending that out if it happens, it seems a bit dark considering the series' usual tone.
Chrome Newfie: YYZ 1, any reason for taking out the exclamation point on the Kamichu! entry. It directed to Kamichu anyway, and as I recall, the usual actual title is Kamichu!. The same has been done, for example, for Ranma 1/2.
Looney Toons: I've been noticing over the past few days that YYZ1 is making a lot of random little deletes with no explanation. This worries me.
Andyroid: thatother1dude, who told you Shinto was "monotheistic"? They don't call kami "the eight million gods" for nothing, ya know.
ThatOther1Dude: when did I ever say anything like that?
TravisWells: I fiddled with the B5 one, pulling out "Except that he needlessly kills a person first." in response to "he conducts himself with responsibility, restraint, and humility.". Ironheart did kill one of the Psy Cops, but he was about to explode, and doing that in a big tin can with a quarter of a million people would be a bad thing. They were trying to stop him, if they had, thousands would have died. So he was justified in using lethal force. He also killed some starfury pilots early on. That's less justifiable, but it's not clear he did it on purpose (his powers were far from under control), and if he hadn't destroyed them, they would have either captured him (Meaning the Psy Cops become near-gods, very very bad) or killed him (so he fought back in self defense).
Wandering Troper: Removed FFXII example. Venat was doing quite the opposite, using the Green Rocks to free humanity from the Occuria.
AKK: Shouldn't the addition of Jesus make it "Oldest in the book"? Arakhor: Well, it's hardly a subversion, now is it?
cg12345: Swapped out the Simpsons quote for the Vespasian quote — it seemed to fit better. Here's the other quote in case you'd rather have it instead:
- I've always wondered if there was a god. And now I know: There is. And it's me!
Mullon: So does Jed Hill's long speech from Malice count?
{{bud0011)):Pokemon is listed twice.
Anaheyla: http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/383/17/
Does that count as an AGAIspeech?
Mac Phisto: Does this trope have an inverse, where someone else is proclaimed a god, without their endorsement? Such as Emperor Haile Selaisse, or Eric Clapton?
