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openTons of appearances in an infobox question Print Comic
Characters.Green Arrow Speedy has a 'first appearance' list for the characters, which is fine, but then it goes into every comic they ever appeared in whether they have trope pages or not. Roy's portion is really long; should it and similar parts be trimmed, cut, or left alone?
openProposal for Addition to 'Films: Animated' entry of 'Walk Into Mordor' Film
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 'Spiderman: Into the Spiderverse' fit in the 'Films: Animated' entry? I distinctly remember one scene where the spiderpeople were on the roof of the building where Kingpin's ball (and device) was, and then Noir says, "It can't be that easy," in regards to the others plan of sneaking in as is due to the Spiderman theme of the ball (Because of the original peter's death) and then there's a Gilligan Cut (?) to Noir saying 'It really is that easy.'
openCondemned By History entry Live Action TV
A few hours ago Tropiarz added this Condemned by History entry to the YMMV page for Lost:
- As innovative as it was when it came out, Lost is also the face of everything wrong with the mid-to-late 00s TV series - the infamous "mystery box" model of unsustainable, Writing by the Seat of Your Pants shows that just kept piling more and more nonsensical puzzles for the audience to follow without any actual goal in mind other than "keep ratings high". Not only is the series guilty of all the issues this style of writing and show-running entails, but it spawned dozens of sub-par copycats that absolutely flooded the market, coming up with more and more ridiculous starting points for their big "mysteries" that never meant anything at all, either burning out without any conclusion or starting to suffer from extreme cases of The Chris Carter Effect - with Lost falling victim to that already by the end of season 3 out of 6. It is also guilty of introducing and popularising such hated things as: the marketing gimmick of "half-seasons" done for the sake of artificially extending the life of a single season, relying on Character Death for shock value, absolutely massive casts that end up working against the show due to lack of focus and even souring flashbacks for generations to come, as they became a by-word for "padding" in the same way as Engaging Chevrons. It's hard to comprehend how many despised practices hail back to this show as either origin or at least propagator and populariser.
I'm not sure this counts because it doesn't make an argument that the show is now viewed negatively, it's just listing a number of things people disliked about it and is also complaining about other shows doing those things.
Edited by Javertshark13openEdit war on Fallout 2024's Trivia page.
On May 14th, troper Doctor Detective removed this entry Fallout (2024)'s trivia page with the edit reason "None of that requires that the creators lied, given the time between the games and the show, and how all of the games' endings are actually rather open-ended in terms of what happens next."
- Lying Creator: Part of the creators' insistence that the show would be a canon entry in the franchise in the leadup to release included assurance that the show would not engage in any Cutting Off the Branches for previous entries. Despite this, the show's very first episode featured an appearance by the Prydwen from Fallout 4 intact and still operational in the Brotherhood's service, with reference made to members of the organization still operating within the Commonwealth. Due to the Institute and Railroad endings requiring destroying the Prydwen, this leaves only the Brotherhood and Minutemen endings plausible and invalidating half of the game's potential endings. Additionally, The Stinger for the Season 1 finale indicates the show will showcase the now run-down city of New Vegas heavily in the second season, which by its nature will require either choosing a specific ending to Fallout: New Vegas as canon or rendering the player's choice of ending irrelevant somehow.
The edit reason made me raise an eyebrow, considering it appears cut and dry when it comes to the Prydwen being intact contradicting the Cutting Off the Branches claim, so I restored it on May 17th with the edit reason "Main page doesn't mention any requirements. If the creator lied about something, even if something is "open-ended", then it qualifies."
The next day, Doctor Detective removed the entry again with the edit reason "The requirement is that the creator lied about something. They didn't. Viewers are speculating about what must have happened, based on partial information. Retcons, added information, and nine years of additional story without direct reference to or confirmation of what happened in previous installations do not constitute lies. Everything about this entry belongs I the WMG page."
Regardless of his reasoning for it, it's an edit war now.
Edited by Super_WeegeeopenAnime or Films- Animation?
While Princess Mononoke is listed as an anime sometimes its examples are listed in the Films — Animation section of some pages? Should this be corrected and moved to the anime folder?
openDoes Mystique counts as DracoInLeatherPants Print Comic
Hey guys, a while ago I added X-Men’s Mystique to the Draco in Leather Pants Marvel page of villains who are beloved and forgiven by fans despite their heinous crimes.
Troper Cylon took issue with this as they don’t consider Mystique an abusive mother or sadistic villain even though she has had decades of written to be just that. They removed the example, I put it back, they removed it again. Que the ensuing arguments where even where I provided evidence Cylon would either ignore it or tried justify it or claim it’s bad writing that Mystique was written that way.
I believe same as Magneto, Mystique definitely counts for the trope. What do you guys think?
Edited by Yellow20openParameters of EvenTheGuysWantHim
There's an instance where Even the Guys Want Him is being used to describe just "bi guy has a male crush". I don't think that specific instance is a trope; I think it's a banal, chair-type event. I thought Even the Guys Want Him was when mostly-straight Al remarks on Bob's hotness and this is narratively used as a way to convey how unusually, remarkably hot Bob is. The person who added it is arguing no, the "bi guy has a normal crush" example is within the scope of Even the Guys Want Him as defined on the page.
So 2 questions:
- Does "bi guy has a normal crush" qualify as Even the Guys Want Him?
- If so, is Even the Guys Want Him even tropeworthy?
openUndo edit reverts for Anakin Skywalker page
Greetings. I've noticed that Tuvor reverted a good deal of my edits on Anakin Skywalker's page. Some of them were understandable, but others I don't feel were necessary, such as this one, this one, and this one, to name a few.
Any thoughts on this?
Edited by zakitaroresolved Is DefectiveDetective jhonsogflint ban evading again?
I'm suspicious about Defective Detective, who only has activity since May 19th. They have the same editing patterns as jhonsogflint, who was discovered in a previous ATT to be a ban evader. Defective Detective often edits and crosswicks on Scarface (1983) just like jhonsogflint used to do. And they are currently adopting and posting TLP drafts about languages: 1, 2. That's the same fixation jhonsogflint had, with many sandboxes about language tropes.
Please check if Defective Detective is a sock.
Edited by animuacidopenQuestion about flexibility of Bloodstained Glass Windows
Since Tropes Are Flexible, does Bloodstained Glass Windows cover violence in non-Christian houses of worship? Would a gunfight in a synagogue or a mosque be as valid an example as one that happens in a church?
resolved TRS crowner
There is an active crowner for Daddy System at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
openIs It Ok To Add "The Smoke Room" Work On The Wiki Videogame
I was planing on adding an article for "The Smoke Room" (a visual novel) to the wiki in the near future, but the redlink said that it was cut do to it being added by a ban evader. Is it ok to add again? Im pretty sure it is due to it being an actual work and a prequel to another work with a page on this site, but im asking to be sure since the page said i should do that
openNot experienced with editing here, why is this like this? Literature
So I wanted to add a trope example to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/WarriorCatsTheOriginalSeries but when I opened the editor I found it was already there, but upon closing the editor again I didn't see it. Opening the page normally on one tab and in editor in another, I discovered that the example I wanted to add as well as a bunch of others, maybe a third of the page's total examples, had "
resolved Revert Edit on "Cursed Princess Club"
Can we revert the most recent edit made to the Cursed Princess Club page? The edit contains extensive spelling and grammar mistakes (...and (in my opinion) it adds a lot of unnecessary cruft to the work description).
(I've privately messaged the editor and confirmed that English is not their primary language. They have been made aware that corrections/ changes will be made to the page.)
(Apologies if this isn't the right venue to request edit reversions - if not, please direct me to the correct forum or thread.)
openAnime/anime adjacent trope - Blonde with fists as weapons Anime
Anime/anime adjacent trope - Blonde with fists as weapons
Got a list of examples for anyone important enough to create a page:
https://in-birth.fandom.com/wiki/Mika
https://rwby.fandom.com/wiki/Yang_Xiao_Long
https://symphogear.fandom.com/wiki/Hibiki_Tachibana
https://shangrila-frontier.fandom.com/wiki/Kei_Uomi (Shangri-La Frontier form), see ep12 5:03
https://mahoako.fandom.com/wiki/Tenkawa_Kaoruko (fist attack)
Edited by tempuser1283914resolved Irredeemable Exception, below exceptional threshold?
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic: Over the show's course, a significant portion of its antagonists are redeemed and brought to the heroes' side or, at least, convinced to drop their antagonism to them. The most notable exceptions to this are Cozy Glow, Queen Chrysalis, Lord Tirek, and King Sombra, half of whom scorn redemption at various points in their personal histories and who all eventually band together to serve as the final season's main villains, where they're eventually defeated for good and turned to stone (or completely vaporized by friendship magic, in the case of King Sombra).
If counting major villains (Luna, Discord, Starlight Glimmer, Stygian, Tempest Shadow and the unredeemed Storm King), that's only 50% redeemed. Counting minor antagonists that 14 to 16 redeemed (2 were a Hazy-Feel Turn) and 34 to 22 (if one discounts those not bad enough to be full villains), so that between 58% to 71% who remained unredeemed.
Does this trope not apply non-redemption is not that uncommon/exceptional? What is the threshold amount/ration to be considered the exception here?
openEdit war on "Deadpool and Wolverine"
On YMMV.Deadpool And Wolverine, bud0011 added this example on April 24, 2024:
- Crosses the Line Twice: Giant Man's Skull being used as a base on its own works as Body Horror, but if you combine it with Paul Rudd's memetic The Ageless-ness, it becomes Black Comedy that something eventually did him in.
I removed it a few days later, citing discussion here.
On May 12, bud0011 readded it, unchanged, with the edit reason being a link to a clip from the movie of Deadpool essentially making the same joke.
While I do believe the example could now stay if rewritten to be about Deadpool's quip and not a version of Fridge Brilliance, it's still an edit war, as it appears to have been readded without discussion.
Edited by MisterApes-a-lot
PICO-8 now has a successor, that is based on the 16-bit era of game consoles, but the said system/platform lacks game entries, does it deserve a page here?
here's the link: https://www.lexaloffle.com/picotron.php
Edited by Travis4205