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openAnime or Films- Animation?
While Princess Mononoke is listed as an anime sometimes its examples are listed in the Films — Animation section of some pages? Should this be corrected and moved to the anime folder?
openParameters of EvenTheGuysWantHim
There's an instance where Even the Guys Want Him is being used to describe just "bi guy has a male crush". I don't think that specific instance is a trope; I think it's a banal, chair-type event. I thought Even the Guys Want Him was when mostly-straight Al remarks on Bob's hotness and this is narratively used as a way to convey how unusually, remarkably hot Bob is. The person who added it is arguing no, the "bi guy has a normal crush" example is within the scope of Even the Guys Want Him as defined on the page.
So 2 questions:
- Does "bi guy has a normal crush" qualify as Even the Guys Want Him?
- If so, is Even the Guys Want Him even tropeworthy?
openUndo edit reverts for Anakin Skywalker page
Greetings. I've noticed that Tuvor reverted a good deal of my edits on Anakin Skywalker's page. Some of them were understandable, but others I don't feel were necessary, such as this one, this one, and this one, to name a few.
Any thoughts on this?
Edited by zakitaroopenDoes Mystique counts as DracoInLeatherPants Print Comic
Hey guys, a while ago I added X-Men’s Mystique to the Draco in Leather Pants Marvel page of villains who are beloved and forgiven by fans despite their heinous crimes.
Troper Cylon took issue with this as they don’t consider Mystique an abusive mother or sadistic villain even though she has had decades of written to be just that. They removed the example, I put it back, they removed it again. Que the ensuing arguments where even where I provided evidence Cylon would either ignore it or tried justify it or claim it’s bad writing that Mystique was written that way.
I believe same as Magneto, Mystique definitely counts for the trope. What do you guys think?
Edited by Yellow20resolved Is DefectiveDetective jhonsogflint ban evading again?
I'm suspicious about Defective Detective, who only has activity since May 19th. They have the same editing patterns as jhonsogflint, who was discovered in a previous ATT to be a ban evader. Defective Detective often edits and crosswicks on Scarface (1983) just like jhonsogflint used to do. And they are currently adopting and posting TLP drafts about languages: 1, 2. That's the same fixation jhonsogflint had, with many sandboxes about language tropes.
Please check if Defective Detective is a sock.
Edited by animuacidopenQuestion about flexibility of Bloodstained Glass Windows
Since Tropes Are Flexible, does Bloodstained Glass Windows cover violence in non-Christian houses of worship? Would a gunfight in a synagogue or a mosque be as valid an example as one that happens in a church?
resolved TRS crowner
There is an active crowner for Daddy System at the Trope Repair Shop. Click here if you want to join the discussion.
openIs It Ok To Add "The Smoke Room" Work On The Wiki Videogame
I was planing on adding an article for "The Smoke Room" (a visual novel) to the wiki in the near future, but the redlink said that it was cut do to it being added by a ban evader. Is it ok to add again? Im pretty sure it is due to it being an actual work and a prequel to another work with a page on this site, but im asking to be sure since the page said i should do that
openNot experienced with editing here, why is this like this? Literature
So I wanted to add a trope example to https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/WarriorCatsTheOriginalSeries but when I opened the editor I found it was already there, but upon closing the editor again I didn't see it. Opening the page normally on one tab and in editor in another, I discovered that the example I wanted to add as well as a bunch of others, maybe a third of the page's total examples, had "
openRevert Edit on "Cursed Princess Club"
Can we revert the most recent edit made to the Cursed Princess Club page? The edit contains extensive spelling and grammar mistakes (...and (in my opinion) it adds a lot of unnecessary cruft to the work description).
(I've privately messaged the editor and confirmed that English is not their primary language. They have been made aware that corrections/ changes will be made to the page.)
(Apologies if this isn't the right venue to request edit reversions - if not, please direct me to the correct forum or thread.)
openAnime/anime adjacent trope - Blonde with fists as weapons Anime
Anime/anime adjacent trope - Blonde with fists as weapons
Got a list of examples for anyone important enough to create a page:
https://in-birth.fandom.com/wiki/Mika
https://rwby.fandom.com/wiki/Yang_Xiao_Long
https://symphogear.fandom.com/wiki/Hibiki_Tachibana
https://shangrila-frontier.fandom.com/wiki/Kei_Uomi (Shangri-La Frontier form), see ep12 5:03
https://mahoako.fandom.com/wiki/Tenkawa_Kaoruko (fist attack)
Edited by tempuser1283914openCondemned By History entry Live Action TV
A few hours ago Tropiarz added this Condemned by History entry to the YMMV page for Lost:
- As innovative as it was when it came out, Lost is also the face of everything wrong with the mid-to-late 00s TV series - the infamous "mystery box" model of unsustainable, Writing by the Seat of Your Pants shows that just kept piling more and more nonsensical puzzles for the audience to follow without any actual goal in mind other than "keep ratings high". Not only is the series guilty of all the issues this style of writing and show-running entails, but it spawned dozens of sub-par copycats that absolutely flooded the market, coming up with more and more ridiculous starting points for their big "mysteries" that never meant anything at all, either burning out without any conclusion or starting to suffer from extreme cases of The Chris Carter Effect - with Lost falling victim to that already by the end of season 3 out of 6. It is also guilty of introducing and popularising such hated things as: the marketing gimmick of "half-seasons" done for the sake of artificially extending the life of a single season, relying on Character Death for shock value, absolutely massive casts that end up working against the show due to lack of focus and even souring flashbacks for generations to come, as they became a by-word for "padding" in the same way as Engaging Chevrons. It's hard to comprehend how many despised practices hail back to this show as either origin or at least propagator and populariser.
I'm not sure this counts because it doesn't make an argument that the show is now viewed negatively, it's just listing a number of things people disliked about it and is also complaining about other shows doing those things.
Edited by Javertshark13resolved Irredeemable Exception, below exceptional threshold?
- My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic: Over the show's course, a significant portion of its antagonists are redeemed and brought to the heroes' side or, at least, convinced to drop their antagonism to them. The most notable exceptions to this are Cozy Glow, Queen Chrysalis, Lord Tirek, and King Sombra, half of whom scorn redemption at various points in their personal histories and who all eventually band together to serve as the final season's main villains, where they're eventually defeated for good and turned to stone (or completely vaporized by friendship magic, in the case of King Sombra).
If counting major villains (Luna, Discord, Starlight Glimmer, Stygian, Tempest Shadow and the unredeemed Storm King), that's only 50% redeemed. Counting minor antagonists that 14 to 16 redeemed (2 were a Hazy-Feel Turn) and 34 to 22 (if one discounts those not bad enough to be full villains), so that between 58% to 71% who remained unredeemed.
Does this trope not apply non-redemption is not that uncommon/exceptional? What is the threshold amount/ration to be considered the exception here?
openEdit war on "Deadpool and Wolverine"
On YMMV.Deadpool And Wolverine, bud0011 added this example on April 24, 2024:
- Crosses the Line Twice: Giant Man's Skull being used as a base on its own works as Body Horror, but if you combine it with Paul Rudd's memetic The Ageless-ness, it becomes Black Comedy that something eventually did him in.
I removed it a few days later, citing discussion here.
On May 12, bud0011 readded it, unchanged, with the edit reason being a link to a clip from the movie of Deadpool essentially making the same joke.
While I do believe the example could now stay if rewritten to be about Deadpool's quip and not a version of Fridge Brilliance, it's still an edit war, as it appears to have been readded without discussion.
Edited by MisterApes-a-lotopenIn-universe WAI/Darth, disallowed?
- What an Idiot!: In-Universe. In The Layover in the S8–S9 off-season, Adam did a poll of 1,200 Jet Lag fans, with one question being "What is the dumbest thing anyone has ever done on Jet Lag?" The answers were: 1. Adam taking off his wig in Tag EUR Itnote as it meant his elaborate disguise was completely wasted when Sam and Ben staked out the train station he was at; 2. Sam and Joseph gambling in Singapore in Circumnavigationnote a high-risk strategy that left them completely stranded halfway through the game; 3. Sam and Brian buying a tracker powerup in Battle 4 Americanote as it wouldn't have given them any way to actually stop Ben and Adam's plan and they ended not not having the coin to steal back the critical challenge; 4. trusting Deutsche Bahnnote which has led directly to at least one tag in each season.
While YMMV and Flame Bait allow in-universe examples, Darth Wiki I belive does not, correct? Also WAI requires the You'd Expect/Instead format so this isn't an example.
So should this be cut? Any possible replacements? (You Fool! seems the in-universe equivalent to WAI, but if it's limited to verbatim uses of Fool/synonyms is a question I asked but have yet to hear anything on.)
resolved There are several edits by ethanm1 on the headscratcher page for a New Hope that seems written by AI Film
Example
Great question! The Death Star is powered by a powerful reactor located in the station's core. This reactor generates a massive amount of energy that is used to power a combination of propulsions systems, including repulsorlift engines, which allow the station to hover in the air or space, and sublight engines, which allow it to move through hyperspace. The Death Star also employs a special type of engine known as a hyperdrive, which is capable of moving the station across vast distances at faster-than-light speeds. This engine can be used to move the station between different star systems, and is what allows it to travel from one battle to another. However, it takes time to charge and power up the hyperdrive, which is why the Death Star is usually accompanied by a fleet of support ships, such as the imperial star destroyers, which can provide protection while it is charging its hyperdrive. Overall, the Death Star is a highly advanced and powerful vehicle that is designed to dominate the galaxy and instill fear in its enemies. The station's weapons, armor, and propulsion systems make it one of the most formidable craft in the galaxy, and its ability to travel from one system to another allows it to be a constant threat to any target, whether it's a rebel base, or simply an entire planet that it has been sent to destroy
Are the use of AI to answer headscratchers okay?
openToo many Silly Puns
The TropesThatWillNeverHappen.Silly Puns page has reached the point it shows the "too long" disclaimer; if we keep adding stuff to it, it's better if we split it first, but my question is how do we split it?
Alphabetically ordered pages, perhaps?
Characters.Green Arrow Speedy has a 'first appearance' list for the characters, which is fine, but then it goes into every comic they ever appeared in whether they have trope pages or not. Roy's portion is really long; should it and similar parts be trimmed, cut, or left alone?